Nelson

[selby]

Of course not, what makes you think that? the lad wants to play football and go as far in the game as he can, end of.

[ravenrover]

I still wonder what the relationship is to Faulkener with Selby?

[danumdon]

I still wonder what the relationship is to Faulkener with Selby?

Regardless of the nature of the relationship it does leave a sour taste in the mouth with the poor handling of this situation.

Im not sure what sort of message it sends out to our young academy players but it seems regardless of your effort, work rate and desire we will always favour a supposedly "bigger teams " youth prospects to their detriment.

Im hoping the loan works out well for Nelson because if it does it means we will be in a stronger position for it, but if it goes tits up i can see some very disgruntled responses to this situation.

Im hoping that DS and JC have not just judged the situation right but also have the finances to justify this strategy.

[Barmby Rover]

I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.

[vaya]

I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.

Harry Worley.
Now 34 and retired from the game.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion.  But he does have potential.

We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.

Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.

[DearneValleyRover]

Nelson is merely a stop gap until Olowu and Younger are fit

[Jonathan]

I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion.  But he does have potential.

We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.

Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.

Some valid points here, although I do think Bobby has done well on the whole. I’d say he’s played more games by this stage than anyone anticipated, he’s shown plenty of promise but he’s very much still learning. We gave him the opportunity to get more games on loan (later than expected in the season) when we thought we were going to have a full complement of centre halves to choose from. That quickly changed and Bobby got injured too which was rotten luck and made it look like a terrible decision with the obvious benefit of perfect hindsight. Nelson offers much needed competition and cover as others including Bobby return to full fitness. It’s not overly helpful to play one off against the other, I think we ought to be hoping both do well. Bobby has no reason to feel disgruntled by his development here and we all hope he has a big future here and possibly beyond that. Some of the talk of him playing for England got a bit daft. Just let him develop.

The loanee point is interesting. I feel like if Woltman had come through our academy we’d have been raving about the flashes of technical brilliance and preaching patience as he adjusts to the men’s game. That’s very very different to the attitude shown towards him. That said I’ve never been a fan of developing another club’s player and allowing ourselves to be used to iron out their flaws.

Can’t be easy running a football club on a limited budget. And most clubs will have a limited budget and have these decisions to make in different ways.

[Spud]

I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion.  But he does have potential.

We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.

Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.

Personally, maybe I am blinkered but I like to think not, other than Big Tom I can't think he's been worse than anyone else in that back line.
Maybe me & others are wrong, but what have we got to lose by giving him game time this season?
The alternative he feels un-valued & someone else gives him a chance, meanwhile will we even remember who our better options were?

[Alan Southstand]

Selby wrote:

Of course not, what makes you think that?

Just by reading what you wrote!

[Lesonthewest]

I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion.  But he does have potential.

We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.

Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.

Personally, maybe I am blinkered but I like to think not, other than Big Tom I can't think he's been worse than anyone else in that back line.
Maybe me & others are wrong, but what have we got to lose by giving him game time this season?
The alternative he feels un-valued & someone else gives him a chance, meanwhile will we even remember who our better options were?

Totally agree with this, we didn't have to play him in every game, but he would have developed a lot quicker playing in this league, a real talent who has been mismanaged in my opinion.

[Cramby10]

I do fear this will blow up in our face regarding Bobby. Anyone who uses Twitter will be able to see that a lot of negative comments regarding the clubs handling of Bobby are liked by someone that I assume is his father. The most recent comment he liked, suggested that he would end up walking away for free.

[ravenrover]

Or it could be Selby

[sedwardsdrfc]

I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion.  But he does have potential.

We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.

Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.

Some valid points here, although I do think Bobby has done well on the whole. I’d say he’s played more games by this stage than anyone anticipated, he’s shown plenty of promise but he’s very much still learning. We gave him the opportunity to get more games on loan (later than expected in the season) when we thought we were going to have a full complement of centre halves to choose from. That quickly changed and Bobby got injured too which was rotten luck and made it look like a terrible decision with the obvious benefit of perfect hindsight. Nelson offers much needed competition and cover as others including Bobby return to full fitness. It’s not overly helpful to play one off against the other, I think we ought to be hoping both do well. Bobby has no reason to feel disgruntled by his development here and we all hope he has a big future here and possibly beyond that. Some of the talk of him playing for England got a bit daft. Just let him develop.

The loanee point is interesting. I feel like if Woltman had come through our academy we’d have been raving about the flashes of technical brilliance and preaching patience as he adjusts to the men’s game. That’s very very different to the attitude shown towards him. That said I’ve never been a fan of developing another club’s player and allowing ourselves to be used to iron out their flaws.

Can’t be easy running a football club on a limited budget. And most clubs will have a limited budget and have these decisions to make in different ways.

Counter point on Woltman is that we get no benefit of developing him. If he was our own you’d know there’s a longer term vision and he doesn’t have to impact immediately just learn.

But the short term nature of loans means Nelson, Woltman etc all have to be 1st team quality now or else what’s the point.

That’s why it’s a bit gutting not to give Faulkner a chance but jump at the chance to give a player if s similar age a chance. If he’s not a much better player then it’s just favouritism of loans. If Nelson is rusty and raw then why not play our own player

[Cramby10]

Or it could be Selby

the chap is called Brian Faulkner and has his picture with Bobby signing his contract.

[ravenrover]

That the chap on Twitter then liking all the tweets?

[Cramby10]

That the chap on Twitter then liking all the tweets?

yes

[selby]

 Disappointed RR?  start with the easy cross words buddy.

[ncRover]

I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at  present.

A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.

[ravenrover]

Disappointed RR?  start with the easy cross words buddy.

No not at all, glad you aren't falling into the trap again

[Donnywolf]

I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.

Harry Worley.
Now 34 and retired from the game.

I can never forget the free kick he took at Chesterfield on a freezing cold night

Think it was for offside 10 yards in Rovers half. Harry W took it and didn't beat the first man. That was Chessies No.9 who was stood almost on Centre spot

Unbelievable Jeff

[Bailey Vickerage]

I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at  present.

A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.

that’s why he was sent to worksop, top of the league and dominate most games so they always have a lot of the ball. He couldn’t go to a national league side because they can’t loan players outside of the transfer window. Worksop was a good move for him to improve on the ball and would’ve been able to settle in easier with Kuleya being there.

[The Beast]

I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at  present.

A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.

Did you see the King's Lynn Centre backs? The big fat lad looked head and shoulders above any CB on our books, I think Bobby would struggle for game time.
Regarding Nelson coming in, I hear DS didn't know much about it, he has an agent who is familiar to the club.

[Chris Black come back]

Nelson starts today in back three.

[The Beast]

Nelson starts today in back three.

Where you found the line up?

[vaya]

https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA

[The Beast]

https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA

Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.

[i_ateallthepies]

https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA

Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.

They're not, Beast, but still 2-0 up.

[The Beast]

https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA

Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.

They're not, Beast, but still 2-0 up.

How's Nelson done?
I'm working today thankfully!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Given the ball away a dozen times.


So, about standard.