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silent majority

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Re: Sack the board
« Reply #90 on February 02, 2023, 10:16:08 am by silent majority »
Be careful of what you wish for certainly springs to mind. Whilst I am not privy to the intracacies of how the club has been funded presumably much of the money going in from the board has been in the form of loans. I believe when JR walked away he generously wrote off his loans. But if our current doners were to recall theirs on exit presumably they would have the right to sell off club assets to fund the payback, the club training ground for example which might make good money as a development site. We rely upon their largesse and screaming for their demise could all go wrong very badly.

There are no loans on the club finances at all. TB and others have always converted their loans into equity leaving DRFC in a good financial situation at all times.

The Watson family generously wrote off everything that they invested in the club when they took a step backwards in recent years. That dwarfed anything anybody else had done in living memory.



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Draytonian III

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« Reply #91 on February 02, 2023, 11:50:19 am by Draytonian III »
Sack the board? Be very careful for what you wish for!



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Canadian Rover

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« Reply #92 on February 02, 2023, 11:57:55 am by Canadian Rover »
Be careful of what you wish for certainly springs to mind. Whilst I am not privy to the intracacies of how the club has been funded presumably much of the money going in from the board has been in the form of loans. I believe when JR walked away he generously wrote off his loans. But if our current doners were to recall theirs on exit presumably they would have the right to sell off club assets to fund the payback, the club training ground for example which might make good money as a development site. We rely upon their largesse and screaming for their demise could all go wrong very badly.

There are no loans on the club finances at all. TB and others have always converted their loans into equity leaving DRFC in a good financial situation at all times.

The Watson family generously wrote off everything that they invested in the club when they took a step backwards in recent years. That dwarfed anything anybody else had done in living memory.

In terms of ownership post Richardson we've been truly blessed.

I do as many others do question the future ambition.

More so the communication from the board. The sustainable funds, the bounce back have all led to expectations and rightly so. The whole we aren't in a relegation battle statement - I mean come on.

We all make mistakes though; but let's see further transparent communication. Copps is now the expected face of communication from the board prospective fan wise and that seems to have disappeared. I'm not saying he's not working - that's all that lad knows if work, effort and commitment (especially to our club) we are fortunate to have him.

Maybe just maybe the board have written this season off expectation wise and we will see improvement in the summer.

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« Reply #93 on February 02, 2023, 12:16:26 pm by selby »
  What do people think they could get, the team? the structure  all the other things Lease to the Stadium the training ground all the leases are to Club Doncaster, things most supporters are not interested in.
  The majority of the people at the moment wanting to force the owners out have not got two half pennies to scratch their arse with on a Thursday night, and would be hard pushed to fund Rag Arse Rovers in the Sunday League and would lose interest in them after a couple of defeats.
   Its the tail trying to wag the dog, and time the Board and management if they are serious about running the club going forward turned around on these people and told them to bog off and watch Manchester City who will feed their idea of how important they are.
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Goole Rover

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« Reply #94 on February 02, 2023, 12:40:04 pm by Goole Rover »
When do we say enough is enough, it’s time to force the owners to put the club for sale officially. Time to sack the board.

We need to start the wheels in motion and some protests.
You must realise donniedog that you and your pals have absolutely no power what so ever to carry out your wishes so sit down and be a good lad.
Sorry if I’ve missed the postings echoing this.

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #95 on February 02, 2023, 01:15:23 pm by EasyforDennis »
When do we say enough is enough, it’s time to force the owners to put the club for sale officially. Time to sack the board.

We need to start the wheels in motion and some protests.
You must realise donniedog that you and your pals have absolutely no power what so ever to carry out your wishes so sit down and be a good lad.
Sorry if I’ve missed the postings echoing this.

I'm sure Donniedog and his pals realise they have no power to change anything to do with the club. However I think you need to cut them a bit of slack. They are no doubt as frustrated as many of us (brown nosers excluded) with how our club is being slowly dragged lower and lower and will be around a lot longer than you or I to support the team.



silent majority

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« Reply #96 on February 02, 2023, 01:39:00 pm by silent majority »
When do we say enough is enough, it’s time to force the owners to put the club for sale officially. Time to sack the board.

We need to start the wheels in motion and some protests.
You must realise donniedog that you and your pals have absolutely no power what so ever to carry out your wishes so sit down and be a good lad.
Sorry if I’ve missed the postings echoing this.

I'm sure Donniedog and his pals realise they have no power to change anything to do with the club. However I think you need to cut them a bit of slack. They are no doubt as frustrated as many of us (brown nosers excluded) with how our club is being slowly dragged lower and lower and will be around a lot longer than you or I to support the team.




There was absolutely no need to add the (brown noses excluded) part to your post! Who are these people? Have you ever asked them how frustrated they are? How can you judge any of them the way you've done if you don't know them|?




selby

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« Reply #97 on February 02, 2023, 02:13:08 pm by selby »
  Easy for Dennis They won't be around five minutes if their ego isn't fed, no marks.

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #98 on February 02, 2023, 02:22:14 pm by EasyforDennis »
I guess none of you ever did daft things when you were kids.
It's not just the young kids who are frustrated it is many of the older fans as well. Have you ever asked them why they are frustrated?

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #99 on February 02, 2023, 02:29:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Of course I did daft things when I was a kid, but most of the time until someone sensible told me I was being daft I didn't realise it.

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #100 on February 02, 2023, 02:30:46 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Who identified our players when Ferguson was in charge? Now that was good and didn't involve fees hardly. We've just got to get better at that we really have.

The Beast

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« Reply #101 on February 02, 2023, 02:36:53 pm by The Beast »
Of course I did daft things when I was a kid, but most of the time until someone sensible told me I was being daft I didn't realise it.

You're lucky then, because when I started coming the Rovers there was nobody 'sensible' to tell me I was being daft!

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #102 on February 02, 2023, 02:39:16 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Of course I did daft things when I was a kid, but most of the time until someone sensible told me I was being daft I didn't realise it.

You're lucky then, because when I started coming the Rovers there was nobody 'sensible' to tell me I was being daft!

I'm the only one in my family that doesn't support Sheffield United so you can imagine how it was for me...

selby

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« Reply #103 on February 02, 2023, 03:38:59 pm by selby »
   I would imagine we all did a lot of things tha the safety brigade now would faint at, but we all knew the repercussions of a crack behind the ear of the local bobby or your parents, and didn't think we had the entitlement of everything in life thrown at us, it had to be worked for and paid for not given, nor did we expect to tell other  people what to do and how to spend their money, which seems to be  the main aim of this little band of no marks.
 
   

The Beast

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« Reply #104 on February 02, 2023, 05:05:36 pm by The Beast »
   I would imagine we all did a lot of things tha the safety brigade now would faint at, but we all knew the repercussions of a crack behind the ear of the local bobby or your parents, and didn't think we had the entitlement of everything in life thrown at us, it had to be worked for and paid for not given, nor did we expect to tell other  people what to do and how to spend their money, which seems to be  the main aim of this little band of no marks.
 
   

Yeah and I suppose when we did something stupid, we fortunately didn't have the opportunity to publicise it on social media, even if we might have been daft enough to do so.

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Re: Sack the board
« Reply #105 on February 02, 2023, 06:57:43 pm by Copps is Magic »
We're currently in the lowest half of the lowest league in English football. This is a failure of ownership.

ChrisBx

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« Reply #106 on February 02, 2023, 07:37:45 pm by ChrisBx »
As far as I'm concerned, it's simple. I back the current owners and generally support initiatives such as Club Doncaster. However, I think they need advice when it comes to the football side of things. Creating a HoF was a step in the right direction, however giving the job to Copps was, I'm afraid to say, a woeful yet predictable mistake.

Barmby Rover

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« Reply #107 on February 02, 2023, 07:52:08 pm by Barmby Rover »
As far as I'm concerned, it's simple. I back the current owners and generally support initiatives such as Club Doncaster. However, I think they need advice when it comes to the football side of things. Creating a HoF was a step in the right direction, however giving the job to Copps was, I'm afraid to say, a woeful yet predictable mistake.

And there you go, why appoint a HoF, so fans have somebody to blame instead of the owners. Well done for falling into the trap.

Not Now Kato

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« Reply #108 on February 02, 2023, 10:56:12 pm by Not Now Kato »
We're currently in the lowest half of the lowest league in English football. This is a failure of ownership.

Nope, it’s a failure of the players.

Sammy Chung was King

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« Reply #109 on February 03, 2023, 05:48:37 am by Sammy Chung was King »
I thought when Hoden was recruited into the club, that communications with the fans would improve, that hasn’t happened.

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« Reply #110 on February 03, 2023, 07:58:53 am by roverstillidie91 »
Be careful of what you wish for certainly springs to mind. Whilst I am not privy to the intracacies of how the club has been funded presumably much of the money going in from the board has been in the form of loans. I believe when JR walked away he generously wrote off his loans. But if our current doners were to recall theirs on exit presumably they would have the right to sell off club assets to fund the payback, the club training ground for example which might make good money as a development site. We rely upon their largesse and screaming for their demise could all go wrong very badly.

There are no loans on the club finances at all. TB and others have always converted their loans into equity leaving DRFC in a good financial situation at all times.

The Watson family generously wrote off everything that they invested in the club when they took a step backwards in recent years. That dwarfed anything anybody else had done in living memory.
Didn't JR write off his loans as well?

What do fans want exactly they've invested THEIR money and haven't asked for it back.

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« Reply #111 on February 03, 2023, 08:20:37 am by Avsuptem »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

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« Reply #112 on February 03, 2023, 08:57:34 am by roversdude »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #113 on February 03, 2023, 09:46:46 am by EasyforDennis »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

Don't forget the supporters in all this. Many have had season tickets or paid to watch over the last 20 years. We have also contributed to the clubs existence.

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« Reply #114 on February 03, 2023, 09:47:30 am by ravenrover »
We're currently in the lowest half of the lowest league in English football. This is a failure of ownership.
Look again, I think you might find that League 2 is not the lowest league in English football

i_ateallthepies

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« Reply #115 on February 03, 2023, 10:01:56 am by i_ateallthepies »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

Don't forget the supporters in all this. Many have had season tickets or paid to watch over the last 20 years. We have also contributed to the clubs existence.

But we the supporters have been paying comparatively little and getting something back for it, whereas the owners have been paying comparatively great amounts whilst knowing there will be nothing back for them.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #116 on February 03, 2023, 10:12:28 am by Glyn_Wigley »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

Don't forget the supporters in all this. Many have had season tickets or paid to watch over the last 20 years. We have also contributed to the clubs existence.

Bloody hell, now you're trying to claim a season ticket is a financial investment in the club and that it somehow entitles you to more than admission into the ground on match day.

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #117 on February 03, 2023, 12:25:05 pm by EasyforDennis »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

Don't forget the supporters in all this. Many have had season tickets or paid to watch over the last 20 years. We have also contributed to the clubs existence.

Bloody hell, now you're trying to claim a season ticket is a financial investment in the club and that it somehow entitles you to more than admission into the ground on match day.

Can you point out where I have said buying a season ticket is an investment?
Can you also point out where I have said it entitles anyone to more than admission into the ground on match day?

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #118 on February 03, 2023, 12:32:29 pm by EasyforDennis »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

Aren’t most teams ?

Don't forget the supporters in all this. Many have had season tickets or paid to watch over the last 20 years. We have also contributed to the clubs existence.

But we the supporters have been paying comparatively little and getting something back for it, whereas the owners have been paying comparatively great amounts whilst knowing there will be nothing back for them.

Comparatively. Depends what you mean by that. Someone paying for a season ticket who is living on a basic state pension compared to someone who is putting £2 million a year into the club whilst probably earning more than that each year in interest and investments? Who is hardest hit?
Do you really think we have been getting any kind of value for the cost of a season ticket for the last 2 seasons??

I am not telling the owners how to spend their money before anyone starts. I am just pointing out my view on comparative figures to yours.

silent majority

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« Reply #119 on February 03, 2023, 01:45:48 pm by silent majority »
Than you Mr. Silent Majority for clarifying the position.
It appears that for most of the last 20 years our club's existance has been sustained by altruism.
I strongly suspect that if the current owners could find acceptable buyers they would do so.

The last 20 years? Not so sure about that.

I'm convinced that JR was definitely acting out of instinct and a love for the club when he initially took on the ownership and control of DRFC. But I'm also convinced that as time went by he fell in love with being the Chairman of a football club and the status that comes with that. Much the same as our current Chairman I would suggest.

The one individual who has been spending his money without a selfish motive whatsoever is TB. He's also contributed more cash than any individual in my lifetime. And, he's always said that if a reasonable buyer came along he would sell up and let someone else have the club. He's also said that he wanted to get the club into a sustainable position so that it's future is assured. Being sustainable isn't about him saving money as some people seem to imply quite assertively, but is for the long term future of the club. The club is now in that position, which essentially means that the next phase of DRFC is probably not too far around the corner.

 

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