Sack the board

[tyke1962]

A sustainable club is a very decent achievement and something to be admired let me say that .

From the outside looking in as a Tyke financial sustainability is going to be massively difficult to negotiate if Rovers want to progress at the top end of league one and challenge for a place in the championship .

I'm not convinced by any means its possible to have a self sustaining model and the kind of success Rovers fans want to see again .

Just look at the size and budgets of the club's we are currently competing against at the top of league one , even if three make it to the championship this season they will be replaced by equally big clubs in Huddersfield Town , Wigan or Hull City plus those three other clubs who won't make it back up this season .

Of course this  isn't the current Rovers owners fault but it is the way football is now and it's not changing anytime soon .

We've been away from League One for three seasons but I can tell you from what I've seen this season it's a much different kettle of fish than the one we left in 2019 .

The difference in class between the top six and to a lesser extent Peterborough and Wycombe and the rest of the league is extraordinary .

However that in itself is problematic because trying to get promoted and finishing above Bolton , Derby County , Wednesday , Ipswich Town and Plymouth Argyle is a nightmare .

With all due respect given the size of these clubs can Rovers realistically remain self sustainable and compete at the top end of league one in this climate ?

To put it in perspective we are just about clinging on to their coat-tails and there's five players in our team who all cost over a million quid and in the 8 to 10k per week wage bracket and what's more alarming is that they'd all or have struggled as championship players .

Football is absolutely mental where Rovers aspire to be .

Tyke, we are fans of lower league clubs. We don't aspire to be anywhere..... Just not on a boat without a rudder.

Surely you aspire to the Ryan era when you made it to the championship and held your own for a number of season's .

[tyke1962]

Tyke, only when your club is in the bottom of league two can you understand how so many fans feel.

That's not necessarily right because it's all relative .

I've seen us have to win our last home game of the season to avoid dropping in to league two whilst in administration and that's this century by the way .

I cut my teeth on the terraces at Oakwell when 3k was a good gate at the lower end of the fourth division in the 70's .

I've seen as much shyte as any fan in relative terms .

Some Rovers fans who contribute to this board may want to consider how a change of ownership worked out at Oldham and  Scunthorpe .

[no eyed deer]

A sustainable club is a very decent achievement and something to be admired let me say that .

From the outside looking in as a Tyke financial sustainability is going to be massively difficult to negotiate if Rovers want to progress at the top end of league one and challenge for a place in the championship .

I'm not convinced by any means its possible to have a self sustaining model and the kind of success Rovers fans want to see again .

Just look at the size and budgets of the club's we are currently competing against at the top of league one , even if three make it to the championship this season they will be replaced by equally big clubs in Huddersfield Town , Wigan or Hull City plus those three other clubs who won't make it back up this season .

Of course this  isn't the current Rovers owners fault but it is the way football is now and it's not changing anytime soon .

We've been away from League One for three seasons but I can tell you from what I've seen this season it's a much different kettle of fish than the one we left in 2019 .

The difference in class between the top six and to a lesser extent Peterborough and Wycombe and the rest of the league is extraordinary .

However that in itself is problematic because trying to get promoted and finishing above Bolton , Derby County , Wednesday , Ipswich Town and Plymouth Argyle is a nightmare .

With all due respect given the size of these clubs can Rovers realistically remain self sustainable and compete at the top end of league one in this climate ?

To put it in perspective we are just about clinging on to their coat-tails and there's five players in our team who all cost over a million quid and in the 8 to 10k per week wage bracket and what's more alarming is that they'd all or have struggled as championship players .

Football is absolutely mental where Rovers aspire to be .

Tyke, we are fans of lower league clubs. We don't aspire to be anywhere..... Just not on a boat without a rudder.

Surely you aspire to the Ryan era when you made it to the championship and held your own for a number of season's .

Of course... but supporting this club we  have our limits. And that I am fine with.

[normal rules]

Barring the cameo ( and quite wonderful might I add) signing of billy, we were blessed with a group of relatively unremarkable players that just clicked. John Ryan was a wonderfully vocal and positive ambassador for the club also. It was certainly a high point for the club.

[Donny Exile in York]

Barring the cameo ( and quite wonderful might I add) signing of billy, we were blessed with a group of relatively unremarkable players that just clicked. John Ryan was a wonderfully vocal and positive ambassador for the club also. It was certainly a high point for the club.

And we could and should be again
 We have a great ground and fans, located well for Lomdon via train and the North, sporting heritage with the Ledger etc. Until.recently an  airport. Wtf has Barnsley or Rotherham got to shout about. We should and could be aspiring for much better than our lot. The platform is there. Tyke no disrespect but under JR Barnsley started to become our whipping boys as akin to the 50s and can be again. I don't buy this is about just having a club brigade.. look at the stadium, locality the potential etc.

[Avsuptem]

Digging a bit deeper here on the subject of sustainability we need to consider and identify what are the true aims of the club ? Is it a private company seeking to sustain it's existance by making a profit, or at least not making a loss or is it a football club seeking success in the football league ? The Directors of a company have a duty to deliver the aims of the shareholders, whatever those aims may be. The shareholders i.e. the owners of a company are a seperate and superior authority to the Directors (in terms of the power they have to appoint or dismiss board Directors) but if the Directors are also shareholders the lines are somewhat blurred because they are unlikely to diismiss themselves for poor performance. This of course is all subject to the voting rights held by the shareholders which is normally comensurate with volume of shares held. If all of the talk on here about the owners having provided sufficient funds for us to be in a much higher position in the football league is true then surely the Directors should be held accountable for poor performance especialy the CEO who is the person who has the most executive responsibility and therefore the accountability that goes with it. Thus, logically, GB should be sacked for underperformance,
why has he not been ? Is it because the shareholders are in truth content with our steady fall down the ladder and potentially out of the football league altogether ? To me this  seems unlikely but nonetheless the fans, who whilst they have no powers in terms of managing the club surely, given that they are the main revenue stream, have the moral right to be asking this question.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Most fans come to be entertained and get away from everyday life, where being sustainable to live is part of everyday life. They don’t want to come and see no aim to improve. To always take the cheap way out. Never competing even with sides counted as smaller than ourselves.
Most fans want to see ambition to play higher up.

Playing good football and watching at a reasonable price- we have the latter not the former. We can’t get everyone we want but we need to be competing for the better players sometimes.

[normal rules]

Most fans come to be entertained and get away from everyday life, where being sustainable to live is part of everyday life. They don’t want to come and see no aim to improve. To always take the cheap way out. Never competing even with sides counted as smaller than ourselves.
Most fans want to see ambition to play higher up.

Playing good football and watching at a reasonable price- we have the latter not the former. We can’t get everyone we want but we need to be competing for the better players sometimes.

Many people living average working class lives, would love to be millionaires.
Ain’t going to happen. Statistically.  But if their team win on a sat, for a split second , they feel like millionaires. I know I do.
Football, for clubs like rovers, goes in cycles. Up and down. Currently we are on a down.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Will fans ever be happy with their owners when you've got clubs like Chelsea to compare to?  Their squad tonight was something like £650m cost.  Crazy.

[Donny Exile in York]

Will fans ever be happy with their owners when you've got clubs like Chelsea to compare to?  Their squad tonight was something like £650m cost.  Crazy.

If Newcastle were spending right now like Chelsea then the media would be having a firestorm. Anyway I liken our current predicament and lack of ambition to when Ashley owned Newcastle.  We are looking to sell. Zero ambition zero achievement. Lots of angst and spin.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Yes, NR and all clubs go through lulls, to me at our club it is worse than a lull and rebuilding. There seems no aim to go higher. I’m not seeing players signed, where they are scouting players in areas where the club can get them at a reasonable price and develop players.

 You don’t see us getting players from Ireland, Scottish leagues even Wales. There seems to be no scouting around non league or foreign climes. In short there seems no organised thinking on anything, only on being sustainable.

It’s like asking someone to vote for a politician who is offering nothing but struggle. Basically surviving year after year. You have to have ambitions and aspirations otherwise at best you stand still and at worst plummet down the leagues, which we have.

Does anybody see us breaking into the playoffs?, because I don’t. The side is short of being able to do that. Many underperforming for their abilities. A lot injured as soon as they pull our shirt on.

The blame lies all over the place but the manager isn’t getting the best from what he has for a start. The board whatever you say can do more. The fans can do more by more turning up and backing the side, I admit it’s hard when you see what we see.

The head of football hasn’t really worked as organisation doesn’t seem improved. Do the board trust Danny with any funds, or are they not sure about him?
There seems a lot not right at the club. Meandering through season after season is no way to go, writing seasons off around Christmas every year. Surely we can do better than this?

[Campsall rover]

Digging a bit deeper here on the subject of sustainability we need to consider and identify what are the true aims of the club ? Is it a private company seeking to sustain it's existance by making a profit, or at least not making a loss or is it a football club seeking success in the football league ? The Directors of a company have a duty to deliver the aims of the shareholders, whatever those aims may be. The shareholders i.e. the owners of a company are a seperate and superior authority to the Directors (in terms of the power they have to appoint or dismiss board Directors) but if the Directors are also shareholders the lines are somewhat blurred because they are unlikely to diismiss themselves for poor performance. This of course is all subject to the voting rights held by the shareholders which is normally comensurate with volume of shares held. If all of the talk on here about the owners having provided sufficient funds for us to be in a much higher position in the football league is true then surely the Directors should be held accountable for poor performance especialy the CEO who is the person who has the most executive responsibility and therefore the accountability that goes with it. Thus, logically, GB should be sacked for underperformance,
why has he not been ? Is it because the shareholders are in truth content with our steady fall down the ladder and potentially out of the football league altogether ? To me this  seems unlikely but nonetheless the fans, who whilst they have no powers in terms of managing the club surely, given that they are the main revenue stream, have the moral right to be asking this question.

I agree with you 100%
Of course we should aspire to be a Championship club.
No disrespect to Forest Green Rovers, Morecambe, Accrington and a few other but they simply would never get attendances of over 5.000 simply based on population, history etc.
Doncaster on the other hand is a City ( now ) with a Metropolitan Borough population of 309.000
With some history of 2nd tier football.
There is huge potential but as I said in a recent previous post unless we unearth another JR one who has 500 million at least and is prepared to invest 50 million minimum to get us up towards the top of the championship then we are going to be treading water in League 1 at best.
It is obvious TB isn’t prepared to spend vast sums to take us to the championship and keep us there or even better. That is his right and we have no right to demand that he does.
We have to be grateful for what we have because the alternative could be Bury or Scunny.

Yes it mighty frustrating because there is no one, and i mean no one who wants to see this club more than me playing Sheff Utd, Sunderland, Norwich, WBA, Middlesbrough, and other clubs of their ilk in the Championship season after season.

[Chris Black come back]

Morecambe have an average home gate of over 4500 in League One.

[Lesonthewest]

Ok so Copps is a liar, GB is a liar, DB is a liar and TB is a liar.

The budget was bottom 4 last season and it’s about 12/15 this season.

Ok you lot have it your way.

If you can’t see that the budget’s in 2021 wasn’t spent effectively and that set the rot in. Players under contract that you can’t always ship out when you need to which allows funds to recruit new players.
Recruitment this last summer 2022 was much  improved.

The players we have in our squad this season are without question imo good enough for a top 7 finish in this league.
They have under performed big time.
GM tactically and motivational was very poor hence our nose dive after a great start of 4 wins 2 draws.
DS is tinkering with personnel, formations and tactics to such a degree that we are very inconsistent. He hasn’t sorted out our defence hence we leak goals.
Now if anyone thinks that
Mitchell, Knoyle/Brown, Anderson, Olowu, Maxwell, Rowe, Close, Biggins, Hurst, Molyneux, Miller don’t all have enough ability to be a team that finishes top 7 in this very average league then you have a different opinion to me.
That doesn’t mean we will finish top 7 There is a difference obviously as we have W11 D4 L11 so bang in mid table.
So we have underachieved.
That’s not TB or DB or GB or Copps fault.
It is GM and DS’s fault. They were and are the coaches. It is up to them to get the team playing to their optimum.

Give DS time though.
Gosh this is getting tiresome, I am repeating myself day after day.

The board have done their bit now it up to the coach and players to produce.

All about opinions eh? Sorry but along with quite a few others I disagree.

Yep I certainly disagree. Hope that's not too tiresome, & some don't have to keep repeating themselves.

[Campsall rover]

Morecambe have an average home gate of over 4500 in League One.

Well seriously how many do you think they would get in the Championship?
Example. Burton Albion their gates were not much higher in the Championship than when at top of League 1.
Morecambe have a very limited catchment ref population.

[Campsall rover]

Ok so Copps is a liar, GB is a liar, DB is a liar and TB is a liar.

The budget was bottom 4 last season and it’s about 12/15 this season.

Ok you lot have it your way.

If you can’t see that the budget’s in 2021 wasn’t spent effectively and that set the rot in. Players under contract that you can’t always ship out when you need to which allows funds to recruit new players.
Recruitment this last summer 2022 was much  improved.

The players we have in our squad this season are without question imo good enough for a top 7 finish in this league.
They have under performed big time.
GM tactically and motivational was very poor hence our nose dive after a great start of 4 wins 2 draws.
DS is tinkering with personnel, formations and tactics to such a degree that we are very inconsistent. He hasn’t sorted out our defence hence we leak goals.
Now if anyone thinks that
Mitchell, Knoyle/Brown, Anderson, Olowu, Maxwell, Rowe, Close, Biggins, Hurst, Molyneux, Miller don’t all have enough ability to be a team that finishes top 7 in this very average league then you have a different opinion to me.
That doesn’t mean we will finish top 7 There is a difference obviously as we have W11 D4 L11 so bang in mid table.
So we have underachieved.
That’s not TB or DB or GB or Copps fault.
It is GM and DS’s fault. They were and are the coaches. It is up to them to get the team playing to their optimum.

Give DS time though.
Gosh this is getting tiresome, I am repeating myself day after day.

The board have done their bit now it up to the coach and players to produce.

All about opinions eh? Sorry but along with quite a few others I disagree.

Yep I certainly disagree. Hope that's not too tiresome, & some don't have to keep repeating themselves.

What a sad response.
Thought you might have a bit more about you than to use sarcasm. No need is there for that.

[Lesonthewest]

Most fans come to be entertained and get away from everyday life, where being sustainable to live is part of everyday life. They don’t want to come and see no aim to improve. To always take the cheap way out. Never competing even with sides counted as smaller than ourselves.
Most fans want to see ambition to play higher up.

Playing good football and watching at a reasonable price- we have the latter not the former. We can’t get everyone we want but we need to be competing for the better players sometimes.

Ok so Copps is a liar, GB is a liar, DB is a liar and TB is a liar.

The budget was bottom 4 last season and it’s about 12/15 this season.

Ok you lot have it your way.

If you can’t see that the budget’s in 2021 wasn’t spent effectively and that set the rot in. Players under contract that you can’t always ship out when you need to which allows funds to recruit new players.
Recruitment this last summer 2022 was much  improved.

The players we have in our squad this season are without question imo good enough for a top 7 finish in this league.
They have under performed big time.
GM tactically and motivational was very poor hence our nose dive after a great start of 4 wins 2 draws.
DS is tinkering with personnel, formations and tactics to such a degree that we are very inconsistent. He hasn’t sorted out our defence hence we leak goals.
Now if anyone thinks that
Mitchell, Knoyle/Brown, Anderson, Olowu, Maxwell, Rowe, Close, Biggins, Hurst, Molyneux, Miller don’t all have enough ability to be a team that finishes top 7 in this very average league then you have a different opinion to me.
That doesn’t mean we will finish top 7 There is a difference obviously as we have W11 D4 L11 so bang in mid table.
So we have underachieved.
That’s not TB or DB or GB or Copps fault.
It is GM and DS’s fault. They were and are the coaches. It is up to them to get the team playing to their optimum.

Give DS time though.
Gosh this is getting tiresome, I am repeating myself day after day.

The board have done their bit now it up to the coach and players to produce.

All about opinions eh? Sorry but along with quite a few others I disagree.

Yep I certainly disagree. Hope that's not too tiresome, & some don't have to keep repeating themselves.

What a sad response.
Thought you might have a bit more about you than to use sarcasm. No need is there for that.

As there is no need for your condescending comments, swings & roundabouts & all that.

[Donny Exile in York]

Tyke, only when your club is in the bottom of league two can you understand how so many fans feel.

That's not necessarily right because it's all relative .

I've seen us have to win our last home game of the season to avoid dropping in to league two whilst in administration and that's this century by the way .

I cut my teeth on the terraces at Oakwell when 3k was a good gate at the lower end of the fourth division in the 70's .

I've seen as much shyte as any fan in relative terms .

Some Rovers fans who contribute to this board may want to consider how a change of ownership worked out at Oldham and  Scunthorpe .

Let's face it.. none of this tlhis Tyke nonsense washes... (granted you sound personally like a really good guy)  nearly dropped to the 4th tier.. wtf.. do us a favour.. with your moneyball money pushing for a return to the championship.. I just hear it as 100% patronising  for a town and club we  should be bigger than., history isant always right vs potential and I hope I'm proved right in the future with the likes of Barnsley and Rothrrham
.  So thanks but no thanks from me for your comments on a Rovers forum.

[tyke1962]

Tyke, only when your club is in the bottom of league two can you understand how so many fans feel.

That's not necessarily right because it's all relative .

I've seen us have to win our last home game of the season to avoid dropping in to league two whilst in administration and that's this century by the way .

I cut my teeth on the terraces at Oakwell when 3k was a good gate at the lower end of the fourth division in the 70's .

I've seen as much shyte as any fan in relative terms .

Some Rovers fans who contribute to this board may want to consider how a change of ownership worked out at Oldham and  Scunthorpe .

Let's face it.. none of this tlhis Tyke nonsense washes... (granted you sound personally like a really good guy)  nearly dropped to the 4th tier.. wtf.. do us a favour.. with your moneyball money pushing for a return to the championship.. I just hear it as 100% patronising  for a town and club we  should be bigger than., history isant always right vs potential and I hope I'm proved right in the future with the likes of Barnsley and Rothrrham
.  So thanks but no thanks from me for your comments on a Rovers forum.

I'm not patronising Exile I'm simply quoting history and it's certainly not my fault the people of Doncaster don't back Rovers in the numbers they probably should .

The moneyball comment is sadly misplaced , it's an absolute failure and left us in huge financial jeopardy and led to three of the owners getting removed from the board .

Which is why I've warned against changes of ownership on this board at Rovers and highlighted the merits of local ownership .

As far as greater potential is concerned that may well be true given the population of Doncaster but just how long can you use the term potential before it evaporates ?

You were formed in 1879 .

[TommyC]

Digging a bit deeper here on the subject of sustainability we need to consider and identify what are the true aims of the club ? Is it a private company seeking to sustain it's existance by making a profit, or at least not making a loss or is it a football club seeking success in the football league ? The Directors of a company have a duty to deliver the aims of the shareholders, whatever those aims may be. The shareholders i.e. the owners of a company are a seperate and superior authority to the Directors (in terms of the power they have to appoint or dismiss board Directors) but if the Directors are also shareholders the lines are somewhat blurred because they are unlikely to diismiss themselves for poor performance. This of course is all subject to the voting rights held by the shareholders which is normally comensurate with volume of shares held. If all of the talk on here about the owners having provided sufficient funds for us to be in a much higher position in the football league is true then surely the Directors should be held accountable for poor performance especialy the CEO who is the person who has the most executive responsibility and therefore the accountability that goes with it. Thus, logically, GB should be sacked for underperformance,
why has he not been ? Is it because the shareholders are in truth content with our steady fall down the ladder and potentially out of the football league altogether ? To me this  seems unlikely but nonetheless the fans, who whilst they have no powers in terms of managing the club surely, given that they are the main revenue stream, have the moral right to be asking this question.

You're aware GB owns effectively a third of the shares along with Blunt and Bramall each owning a third? I was surprised to learn this a while back as i dont recall there ever being much of an announcement that those two had become significant equity owners of Club Doncaster (which in turn controls about 98% of the Rovers) Presumably GB will receive a significant six figure salary for his role. I would imagine Blunt also. Seems to me that when you have two thirds of the shares in the hands of two extremely highly remunerated Directors of the club, with no requirement for any of them to put their hands in their pocket to run the club, where is the impetus for change actually going to come from? The boys have jobs for life and DRFC exists at no cost to them, first and foremost to pay Baldwin and Blunt their significant salaries.

I make no criticism of that. My own business exists purely to pay me my salary/dividends and that's how/why many companies exist. But the repeated narrative of Bramall selflessly funding us to the tune of millions a year no longer rings true. The club is a business that exists to remunerate Baldwin and Blunt and as long as TB doesn't have to put his hand in his pocket its all good. Anything after that (footballing concerns) is a secondary concern. Priorities are in this order 1. Sustainability so TB doesn't have to put anything in 2. Ability to hamsomely remunerate GB and DB and only after that do we get to considering the performance on the team and footballing matters.

That's the difference between a club being run as a business, compared to one being bankrolled by a true benefactor like JR. I'm sure he didn't take salary/remuneration. I'm sure Wetzel, Milton, Beresford etc etc didn't take salaries/remuneration. That's the difference.

[tyke1962]

 The financial self sustainability model is workable with success on the field if Rovers can start a process of finding talent at low cost and selling them on for a good profit .

I'm not talking about the odd Ben Whiteman here and there but a real emphasis to find this talent and develop it with contracts drawn up with players so that Rovers receive the absolute top end fees at the point of sale .

However and once again speaking from experience it  isn't that easy either .

We ended up with £8m for John Stones once he moved from Everton to Man City and received £6.5m for Alfie Mawson when he went to Swansea .

You'd think you'd be able to sustain a decent period of championship football wouldn't you with that kind of money rolling in .

Alas it's not that simple seen as we've been relegated 3 times from the championship in 10 years .

Maybe Rovers could do better than ourselves with such a model .

[Campsall rover]

Digging a bit deeper here on the subject of sustainability we need to consider and identify what are the true aims of the club ? Is it a private company seeking to sustain it's existance by making a profit, or at least not making a loss or is it a football club seeking success in the football league ? The Directors of a company have a duty to deliver the aims of the shareholders, whatever those aims may be. The shareholders i.e. the owners of a company are a seperate and superior authority to the Directors (in terms of the power they have to appoint or dismiss board Directors) but if the Directors are also shareholders the lines are somewhat blurred because they are unlikely to diismiss themselves for poor performance. This of course is all subject to the voting rights held by the shareholders which is normally comensurate with volume of shares held. If all of the talk on here about the owners having provided sufficient funds for us to be in a much higher position in the football league is true then surely the Directors should be held accountable for poor performance especialy the CEO who is the person who has the most executive responsibility and therefore the accountability that goes with it. Thus, logically, GB should be sacked for underperformance,
why has he not been ? Is it because the shareholders are in truth content with our steady fall down the ladder and potentially out of the football league altogether ? To me this  seems unlikely but nonetheless the fans, who whilst they have no powers in terms of managing the club surely, given that they are the main revenue stream, have the moral right to be asking this question.

You're aware GB owns effectively a third of the shares along with Blunt and Bramall each owning a third? I was surprised to learn this a while back as i dont recall there ever being much of an announcement that those two had become significant equity owners of Club Doncaster (which in turn controls about 98% of the Rovers) Presumably GB will receive a significant six figure salary for his role. I would imagine Blunt also. Seems to me that when you have two thirds of the shares in the hands of two extremely highly remunerated Directors of the club, with no requirement for any of them to put their hands in their pocket to run the club, where is the impetus for change actually going to come from? The boys have jobs for life and DRFC exists at no cost to them, first and foremost to pay Baldwin and Blunt their significant salaries.

I make no criticism of that. My own business exists purely to pay me my salary/dividends and that's how/why many companies exist. But the repeated narrative of Bramall selflessly funding us to the tune of millions a year no longer rings true. The club is a business that exists to remunerate Baldwin and Blunt and as long as TB doesn't have to put his hand in his pocket its all good. Anything after that (footballing concerns) is a secondary concern. Priorities are in this order 1. Sustainability so TB doesn't have to put anything in 2. Ability to hamsomely remunerate GB and DB and only after that do we get to considering the performance on the team and footballing matters.

That's the difference between a club being run as a business, compared to one being bankrolled by a true benefactor like JR. I'm sure he didn't take salary/remuneration. I'm sure Wetzel, Milton, Beresford etc etc didn't take salaries/remuneration. That's the difference.

Baldwin receives a salary because he is a full time employee. He is the CEO
Where has the information that Blunt receives a salary come from?
I wasn’t aware he was an employee on a salary. Just Chairman of the Club.

[sedwardsdrfc]

A chairman of a company will normally get paid so wouldn’t be surprised if Blunt was getting a salary.

We should make his and others salary more performance related imo. They’d owe the club money right now

[EasyforDennis]

Reading SM's post on the current state of the club along with Copps comment regarding resources, it does make me wonder. Did Andrew Watson see the writing on the wall when he decided to call it a day?

[wilts rover]

Morecambe have an average home gate of over 4500 in League One.

Accrington Stanley have had 5 seasons in League 1 with around 3000.
Bradford City have had four seasons in League 2 with over 10000.

[wilts rover]

A chairman of a company will normally get paid so wouldn’t be surprised if Blunt was getting a salary.

We should make his and others salary more performance related imo. They’d owe the club money right now

Will they, who knew! How much did John Ryan get paid then btw?

I suggest you research how football clubs are financed before showing your ignorance on a public forum.

[sedwardsdrfc]

A chairman of a company will normally get paid so wouldn’t be surprised if Blunt was getting a salary.

We should make his and others salary more performance related imo. They’d owe the club money right now

Will they, who knew! How much did John Ryan get paid then btw?

I suggest you research how football clubs are financed before showing your ignorance on a public forum.

A chairman of a company will normally get paid so wouldn’t be surprised if Blunt was getting a salary.

We should make his and others salary more performance related imo. They’d owe the club money right now

Will they, who knew! How much did John Ryan get paid then btw?

I suggest you research how football clubs are financed before showing your ignorance on a public forum.

Why bring Ryan into it. A chairman doesn’t fund the club the owner does. Sometimes it’s the same person sometimes they aren’t but as I said in business the role of chairman is paid.

Read what I said and count to 10 before you post on a public forum.

[Campsall rover]

A chairman of a company will normally get paid so wouldn’t be surprised if Blunt was getting a salary.

We should make his and others salary more performance related imo. They’d owe the club money right now

Most Football league clubs and Premier league Chairmen as far as I am aware don’t receive a Salary.
Well that’s how it was in years gone by. They are not employees of the football club.
CEO’s of course whether they are shareholders or not are full time employees so receive a salary.

Now if David Blunt is receiving a salary it’s news to me and I find it somewhat alarming.
Yes due to performance of the Football operation on the field of play he then becomes much more accountable. He would possibly be sacked by most commercial companies for ineptitude.
As a major share holder he isn’t going to sack himself. 

Who has the voting rights. Who is he accountable to? 
This paints a completely different picture to the one I was aware of.
I always thought both Bramall & Blunt have taken not one penny out of the club.
They have only put money in.  Bramall of course will not have taken any Salary. That I assume is a given.

Baldwin as a full time CEO obviously receives a salary and it may be performance related.  I don’t know if it is or not.
He has done a fantastic job with Club Doncaster and thanks to his hard work and others in the marketing and commercial depts, the club has multiple revenue streams that brings in considerable funds.

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Daniel Levy, chairman of Tottenham, is the highest paid non footballing person in the game picking up 4m a year.

It is quite normal for chairman to be employed by the company, non executive chairmen aren’t and tend to be involved in many company’s so only part time really.

Obviously I don’t know the situation with Blunt but it’s very normal to get paid in business for the role and we seem to run more as a business than a football club

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Daniel Levy, chairman of Tottenham, is the highest paid non footballing person in the game picking up 4m a year.

It is quite normal for chairman to be employed by the company, non executive chairmen aren’t and tend to be involved in many company’s so only part time really.

Obviously I don’t know the situation with Blunt but it’s very normal to get paid in business for the role and we seem to run more as a business than a football club

Daniel Levy is a full time employee. So he takes remuneration.

Is David Blunt a full time employee at DRFC?  I wasn’t aware he was.  Gavin Baldwin runs the day to day business of the club.
If I am wrong then happy to be corrected.

Maybe SM you can clear this one up once and for all.  Or Lincoln Rover ( Derek ) maybe you know?