Meet the owners

[pib]

  So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.

So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.

Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.

[roversdude]

Apparently, according to Mr Blunt, if we increase the crowd by 50%, we would be sustainable.

No acknowledgement that they’re driving supporters away with this frugal approach.

Gavin made it perfectly clear that we need to be out of league 2, meaning back in league 1. However, with the quality/standard of player dropping, due to affordability, how do they think we’re going to get out this league without more investment?

The presentation had Brown as a much better player than the one he replaced

[Not Now Kato]

  So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.

So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.

Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.

You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer.  But I bet you won't.

[EasyforDennis]

  So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.

So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.

Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.

You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer.  But I bet you won't.

If thats all you have to do to find out whats happening at the club or ask a question whats the point of a MTO? 

[karldew]

A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?

I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.

I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.

Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”

[silent majority]

  SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
   They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
 

I sometimes wonder why I get involved as well!! You'd think after 24 years of giving up all my spare time to fight for a better deal for football supporters I should take my retirement seriously and step back.

I thought it was strange though last night, the event sold out within 24 hours indicating a strong feeling towards setting questions and finding out what was going on, yet there were very few people who put their hands up when they had the chance. I would think everybody who wanted to ask a question got the chance, if they didn't it would have only been one or two who missed out. There were a few around me who kept muttering under their breath but didn't have the gumption to stick their hand up.

[silent majority]

A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?

I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.

I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.

Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”

I think there were a few reasons for doing it the way it was done. Under normal circumstances the manager gets more questions than the owners so it was a deliberate choice to allocate them some time at the beginning. I also think it was designed to show everybody that despite their inexperience they know exactly what they're doing and were happy to go into detail.

I think it worked on both levels.

[glosterred]

May be an answer to all those that couldn’t attend for various reasons, to far, not enough tickets etc would be to livestream it on say YouTube or Twitter. Questions could be texted as the programme proceeded?


COYR

[pib]

  So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.

So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.

Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.

You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer.  But I bet you won't.

Missing the point completely there aren't you? The discussion was around people expressing their views on here who "couldn't be bothered" go to MTO. I'm highlighting that it's a stupid comment to suggest that only the 150 people that went can comment on the club and how it's being run. If that's the case, then let's make this the "150 people who attended the MTO" forum and shut down everyone else's account.

As for your last bit, you haven't got a clue who I am so I've no idea what that's all about, but if you think that Mr Bramall is sat there monitoring the Club Doncaster inbox waiting to provide answers to any supporter who emails in about the direction of the club, good luck to you.

[karldew]

A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?

I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.

I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.

Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”

I think there were a few reasons for doing it the way it was done. Under normal circumstances the manager gets more questions than the owners so it was a deliberate choice to allocate them some time at the beginning. I also think it was designed to show everybody that despite their inexperience they know exactly what they're doing and were happy to go into detail.

I think it worked on both levels.

It worked really well, answered a lot of questions before they were needed to be asked…. but then some still asked

I never went to ask questions, I just went to see what the future holds/what they had to say.

Overall, I think we’re in good hands, the owners realise it’s not been great as they’re fans too. Just like other clubs we’ll have our ups and downs, it’s just the fact we’ve been spoilt for a while now and the next generation have never known us lose, as goes to show with the 12 year old not going because of how we’ve been playing.

It’s sounds promising but hopefully we’ll be on the up again soon

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Folk who couldn't attend and/or may have submitted questions that didn't get put forward are only curious. Sometimes, with the information that comes out, it leads to other questions.

What's important really is how we move forward from here. What's gone, is gone.

The questions are whether we're satisfied we have sufficient resources in finance and people to be competitive and challenge for promotion?

Do we have faith in Copps and DS to continue the work to give us that chance of winning more football matches, improving attendances etc.?

If promotion doesn't happen, can we still rely on Copps and DS to go again? Do we fear they will walk if other opportunities come along?

Are we satisfied Copps and DS can attract sufficient calibre of players including young talent and keep them here long enough to mount promotion challenges?

At some point we have to put politics aside and decide if we're happy to continue supporting what we're seeing on the pitch. Surely that's the basic thing that drives us all?

The transfer windows are done, the meet the owners is done. Between now and the end of the season, all we have is DS and the players and they have us. From what I'm seeing and hearing, DS and the players are working hard enough and improving enough to keep me interested to buy a Season membership for next season.

Let's get behind the boys and get up and out of this league.

[Chris Black come back]

Everyone has their own idea of where the club should be longer-term. For me I am happy for the current owners to remain, so we are in charge of our own destiny with responsible people committed to the city as stewards of the club. With that goes a realistic perspective on what we can achieve - we are not going to be a sustainable Championship club. It’s just not going to happen.

We can though if we get our act together, be a very good and well run upper League One side that has the odd jaunt into the Championship now and again, like the Dingles and Rotherham. But for even this to happen we need to be doing far better on recruitment and talent development. We can probably add a bit more income by getting the crowds up but we all know the Doncaster public typically won’t turn out for Rovers.

It’s about maximising our resources and doing far better with our football operations - which the structure that Copps sits within should now be doing. This should include monetising talent better as well, to keep the whole show operating at a better level consistently.

We’ve made a real mess of the last few years for non-financial reasons, so if we can rectify these there is no reason we can’t be back up competing in League One before too long.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Or perhaps the DFP has got it's sums wrong leading to you in turn not getting your sums right.

Are you suggesting that SM is giving us wrong information then?

Quite the opposite. 

[Spilsby Red]

Some people can see it, some can’t. Some ask relevant questions some just want to upset people.
I am more than happy with the owners, happy with SM passing on relevant info, happy Selby takes the time with his previews to every game.

[steve@dcfd]

  So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.

So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.

Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.

You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer.  But I bet you won't.

I did email the club by the link for the meeting the question I asked to MrBrunt about Bounce Back Decisively was not asked maybe I’ll get a written answer which I will share.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.

I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair.  As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.

[Canadian Rover]

Some people can see it, some can’t. Some ask relevant questions some just want to upset people.
I am more than happy with the owners, happy with SM passing on relevant info, happy Selby takes the time with his previews to every game.

Agreed with this.

I'd like the club's youth policy/reserve team transition to be more effective and give opportunity to first team players to recover from injuries or loss of form and for younger players to play "men's football" even if it means establishing consistent links with lower tier clubs too. But I don't own the club; so I guess I gotta shut up.

I would love to see the fans be more respectful of eachother despite not agreeing. Not everyone on social media is a d**khead and not every VSC member is a kiss arse. We are ALL ROVERS FANS though from Australia to Adwick from Carcrfot to Canada let's now continue to help grow the support for the club locally (and yes even as an exile I do my bit).

Danny and the boys need our backing so let's support the team and have some respect for our fellow supporters in the meantime (and that includes everyone).

[Janso]

I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.

I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair.  As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.

Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.

[silent majority]

Just for everybody's benefit, the club will be attempting to answer all the questions that were posed by email and social media.

Hopefully in about a week or so the content from last night will be available on line, and an article to cover the bits that were not covered will accompany that.

As soon as its up and running I'll post a link to it.

[WantleyDragon]

Just for everybody's benefit, the club will be attempting to answer all the questions that were posed by email and social media.

Hopefully in about a week or so the content from last night will be available on line, and an article to cover the bits that were not covered will accompany that.

As soon as its up and running I'll post a link to it.

That's great, where can we see the answers that were posed by social media?

Whilst it was a big turnout last night and the tickets got snapped up fast, it could be the case that some people don't feel comfortable speaking infront of 200 people to ask questions.

Also given the very short time given to the questions section of the meeting, I feel not even a quarter of potential questions were even asked.

Would it be a good idea if the club invited questions every few months by way of email or social media?  And pist the answers publicly so everyone can read them.
As a kind of mini q and a event with the owners?

I feel more regularly engaging with the fans like this could help alleviate some of the negativity sweeping the fan base, where fans by human nature make up their own answers to their own questions ?

Just a thought .

[Canadian Rover]

From the DRFCOS

The annual Meet The Owners event proved to be a successful evening in front of a capacity crowd of Rovers supporters.

More than 200 fans were in attendance in the Jibba Jabba restaurant at the Eco-Power Stadium, with head of football operations James Coppinger opening the night with a presentation on the changes made to, and direction of, senior football at the club.

In the hour that followed, Coppinger, along with head coach Danny Schofield, chairman David Blunt, director Terry Bramall and chief executive Gavin Baldwin, took questions from the audience on all manner of on and off-field topics.

Full coverage of the event will be published the week commencing February 20, including a complete video of the Q&A portion of the evening along with a written transcript.

We will also be providing answers to questions submitted by those unable to attend, which were not asked or covered on the night.

*** FULL PROPS TO THE CLUB ON THIS! we really are special club!

[steve@dcfd]

I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.

I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair.  As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.

Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.

Notice issued on Monday 7th 3pm
Tickets gone by wWeds morning was said to be 120 tickets yet it says in the DRFC report 200.
So no there wasn’t plenty of notice. Unless you knew before it was out in the public domain

[Filo]

I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.

I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair.  As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.

Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.

Notice issued on Monday 7th 3pm
Tickets gone by wWeds morning was said to be 120 tickets yet it says in the DRFC report 200.
So no there wasn’t plenty of notice. Unless you knew before it was out in the public domain

In your quest to criticise you totally missed the point in the post

[steve@dcfd]

Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.

[wilts rover]

I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.

I'm tempted to run a sweepstake on when the next accusation of the club not communicating will surface. 

[steve@dcfd]

I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.

There it is again another exaggeration to make the point just taking after the owner TB last night.

[Janso]

Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.

People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.

You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.

[no eyed deer]

Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.

People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.

You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.

The only moaners there was in fact the owners.

Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.

Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.

Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??

[Filo]

Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.

People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.

You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.

The only moaners there was in fact the owners.

Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.

Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.

Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??

Are you saying they had advanced knowledge of the questions that were asked?