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roverstillidie91

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Perspective required
« on February 07, 2023, 09:36:46 pm by roverstillidie91 »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.



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coventryrover

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« Reply #1 on February 07, 2023, 09:41:18 pm by coventryrover »
Sack the board

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2 on February 07, 2023, 09:41:39 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.

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« Reply #3 on February 07, 2023, 09:42:14 pm by normal rules »
I was bereft after the first half.
Bit of luck in the second half and the whole game changed.
Hurst mom for me.
Olowu looked solid when he came on.
Hope Tommy is ok.

roverstillidie91

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« Reply #4 on February 07, 2023, 09:43:16 pm by roverstillidie91 »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.
A wins a win, hopefully we can build on it

andyst79

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« Reply #5 on February 07, 2023, 09:49:50 pm by andyst79 »
Just shows how dire this league is. Don't think DS & Copps are stupid and have probably realised even splashing a bit of cash in Jan might get us a play off  push & even if we did get promoted by some small chance, we are miles away from where we need to be. Sometimes you just need to take a step or 2 back to move forward

Bessie Red

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« Reply #6 on February 07, 2023, 09:51:34 pm by Bessie Red »
I was bereft after the first half.
Bit of luck in the second half and the whole game changed.
Hurst mom for me.
Olowu looked solid when he came on.
Hope Tommy is ok.
Shows what a bit of confidence can do!

Bessie Red

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« Reply #7 on February 07, 2023, 09:52:39 pm by Bessie Red »
I was bereft after the first half.
Bit of luck in the second half and the whole game changed.
Hurst mom for me.
Olowu looked solid when he came on.
Hope Tommy is ok.
Larkin MoM for me!

Donny Exile in York

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« Reply #8 on February 07, 2023, 10:02:05 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Lakin looks decent and hopefully if he gets a run of games will look even better.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2023, 10:08:39 pm by Donny Exile in York »

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« Reply #9 on February 07, 2023, 10:04:28 pm by Padge_DRFC »
It was abysmal tonight. Play like that on Saturday Swindon a better team will beat us easily.

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« Reply #10 on February 07, 2023, 10:04:56 pm by Filo »
Lets not fool ourselves, for large parts of that game we were awful

dickos1

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« Reply #11 on February 07, 2023, 10:05:32 pm by dickos1 »
Lakin Reminds me of gillet

dickos1

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« Reply #12 on February 07, 2023, 10:07:51 pm by dickos1 »
First half was poor, you could see the confidence was shot.
Anderson looks far more comfortable at lest centre back, hurst was awful first half but good in the second half
Brown defended well, better than knoyle I’d say
I though miller had his best game for a while

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« Reply #13 on February 07, 2023, 10:08:10 pm by mushRTID »
We finally started playing a bit of football when Anderson stopped whacking it long. It was driving me insane! Again.

I don’t know what we do with Molyneux, I really don’t. A passenger tonight.

Mitchell made some good saves.

Tommy you would not be surprised if he’s out for the season, it didn’t look good.

Points very welcome but that wasn’t good. I thought it was very similar to the away game, two poor sides. No chance of the play offs.

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« Reply #14 on February 07, 2023, 10:08:19 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
We were rubbish for a lot of it. A lot of that is confidence but it feels nothing like a team.

I do really like the new right back though he's much more solid than knoyle.  Actually thought the defence were good today, the attack less so.

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« Reply #15 on February 07, 2023, 10:10:36 pm by DonnyOsmond »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.

Similar could be said about Saturday. Replay that game and we would have won the majority.

scawsby steve

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« Reply #16 on February 07, 2023, 10:17:31 pm by scawsby steve »
There were some positives tonight. Lakin, Olowu, and Hurst played very well, and Tom was improved. However, we're so low on confidence that we needed a huge slice of luck to get us going.

I'm happy with the 3 points and the clean sheet, but 9 corners to Tranmere and 0 to us tells the tale of the game.

I would imagine that Tranmere fans will feel they've been mugged tonight.

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« Reply #17 on February 07, 2023, 10:20:38 pm by jmt23 »
Lakin for me too, Hurst played well, but needs to attack the goal, he runs away from it most of the time, he will be a very good player at a higher level eventually.

Brown is by far a better player than Knoyle ever was for us.

I’ve liked all the new players DS has managed to get so far.

I know TR has been out for a while but he had a shocker tonight, his touch and passing was poor, luckily Williams came to his rescue making  him look like Ronaldo, error after error, he scuffed every ball that came to him in that first half. He was much better in the second half, and seemed to hit everything true.

I struggle to slate players, and always try to find positives, or reasons behind poor form - with Williams I just don’t see it, he’s not good enough. He has pace and can run with the ball, and when he does it he reminds me of Sol Campbell, but I have only seen a handful of decent games from him.

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« Reply #18 on February 07, 2023, 10:22:52 pm by roversdude »
There were some positives tonight. Lakin, Olowu, and Hurst played very well, and Tom was improved. However, we're so low on confidence that we needed a huge slice of luck to get us going.

I'm happy with the 3 points and the clean sheet, but 9 corners to Tranmere and 0 to us tells the tale of the game.

I would imagine that Tranmere fans will feel they've been mugged tonight.

Not sure about that they weren’t impressed with one of the subs not fit to wear the shirt - not sure who it was aimed at

Bessie Red

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« Reply #19 on February 07, 2023, 10:33:18 pm by Bessie Red »
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There were some positives tonight. Lakin, Olowu, and Hurst played very well, and Tom was improved. However, we're so low on confidence that we needed a huge slice of luck to get us going.

I'm happy with the 3 points and the clean sheet, but 9 corners to Tranmere and 0 to us tells the tale of the game.

I would imagine that Tranmere fans will feel they've been mugged tonight.
Overall I believe we deserved the 3 points. They had a few good chances but didn't take them. First half both teams were poor. 2nd half thought we were the better team in the 5-10mins leading up to the first goal, that gave us confidence and after that I thought we managed the game pretty well and got a well worked 2nd.

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« Reply #20 on February 07, 2023, 10:36:02 pm by dickos1 »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.

Similar could be said about Saturday. Replay that game and we would have won the majority.

Billy only likes to spin it one way though

danumdon

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« Reply #21 on February 07, 2023, 10:36:35 pm by danumdon »
Awful display recovered by some luck for a change, and we needed it as that embarrassment of a referee was not going to give us anything, on another day they could of had two sent off.

The formation is still the issue, Miller needs help, every time the ball was near him he had three defenders to deal with, no chance.Hurst spent the first half looking like a boy lost and Moly, well what can you say about him, take him back to Hartlepool, spin him around 20 times then lets start again, what a waste.

Brown and Maxwell looked good and solid tonight, both defended well, it was noticeable the amount of times they got a block in on a ball coming in, something Knoyle excelled at !!

The back three tonight again looked very leggy, tired and stiff, when the ball went backwards again from an early clearance from Williams i thought here we go again but his luck held out tonight, looks likes he's carrying a knock or some cramp, Anderson still looks half the player he was, very wasteful again passing long to no one, Rowe never looked comfortable all night and ended up looking like his hamstrings gone again, sad to see, what a waste of an asset.

Close and Lakin kept at it and put a shift in, they had no one to pass to but persevered, Close was rewarded with a fortunate goal but we need to shoot more, see what happens when you do. Lakin looks a useful addition and could grew into our side.

We got away with one tonight and our issues are still there but its always an occasion when we keep a clean sheet so thankful for small mercy's.

Ho and was anyone else glad to see the can can line at the beginning of the game dropped, if they want to persist with the kneeling then its better done in their playing positions than in the manner previously, always looked like a capitulation before the match has started to me, glad to see someone else has picked up on this



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« Reply #22 on February 07, 2023, 10:50:32 pm by drfchound »
Lakin for me too, Hurst played well, but needs to attack the goal, he runs away from it most of the time, he will be a very good player at a higher level eventually.

Brown is by far a better player than Knoyle ever was for us.

I’ve liked all the new players DS has managed to get so far.

I know TR has been out for a while but he had a shocker tonight, his touch and passing was poor, luckily Williams came to his rescue making  him look like Ronaldo, error after error, he scuffed every ball that came to him in that first half. He was much better in the second half, and seemed to hit everything true.

I struggle to slate players, and always try to find positives, or reasons behind poor form - with Williams I just don’t see it, he’s not good enough. He has pace and can run with the ball, and when he does it he reminds me of Sol Campbell, but I have only seen a handful of decent games from him.

Williams looked really nervous to me in that first half.
His touch was shocking, as if he was scared to make a mistake, which made him make mistakes.
He must have had a read of this forum.
After we scored he was different again and did a really good job.

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« Reply #23 on February 07, 2023, 10:54:11 pm by Bills view »
If ever a result glossed over a poor performance for virtually the whole game then that was it. It's like filling potholes with sawdust.

The second half kick off. Back to Tom and a hoof 100 foot in the air that lands in their penalty box much to the delight of their keeper.

I hardly saw a decent passage of play all game. At least there were a few nice moments second half v. Hartlepool.

We're a bottom half league 2 team.

Goole Rover

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« Reply #24 on February 07, 2023, 10:58:45 pm by Goole Rover »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.

Similar could be said about Saturday. Replay that game and we would have won the majority.
Have a look at the stats they really surprised me.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #25 on February 07, 2023, 11:01:20 pm by DonnyOsmond »
2 points off the play-offs.

11 points off 3rd.

Confidence boost this win will hopefully enable us to kick on.

 Aye. But we are still bang out of form. Replay that match tonight a dozen times and we might win 2. The points are welcome of course, but we are not making the playoffs with that sort of performance.

Similar could be said about Saturday. Replay that game and we would have won the majority.
Have a look at the stats they really surprised me.

What stats? For what game?

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« Reply #26 on February 07, 2023, 11:02:01 pm by Monkcaster_Rover »
2 mid table league 2 teams going at it. We were poor, they were worse.

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« Reply #27 on February 07, 2023, 11:18:54 pm by Campsall rover »
Thank goodness for that. 3 points AND a clean sheet.
Far from convincing but much needed.

Good to see Olowu back 2nd half.
Strange to see him play on the right and Anderson on the left.

Close was much improved tonight after his anonymous display on Saturday. Lakin looked ok. 
Hurst M.O.M. imo He looked once again the man that can go past people. Just needs to realease ball a bit quicker on occasions.
Molyneux again disappointing. Not seen 1st half, 2nd half never beat his man once. He is almost trying too hard. Very short on confidence.

What worries me is with Biggins out and Rowe & Lakin going off we were reduced to playing Barlow in midfield. Fortunately we were 2-0 up
If the score had been 0-0 we would have been in big trouble.

I think Lavery didn’t start due to a bit of an injury he picked up on Saturday from what I heard. Miller worked hard but needs a goal.
Mitchell was very sound. Some good saves. Comes for crosses and gets them. Rarely punches the ball and that’s good to see.
His distribution is too slow still. 
But how anybody can thing he is not a very decent keeper at this level is beyond me.

We are 2 points off the play offs unbelievably.  This really is a poor league. If we can put a run of results together then we could still have a successful season.
We do need to play with much more tempo and get that passing crisp and accurate. Far too many mis placed passes tonight.

3 points and it feels so much better after a win. A win is a win.
Let’s hoe that lifts the confidence and it upwards from here.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2023, 11:25:15 pm by Campsall rover »

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« Reply #28 on February 07, 2023, 11:46:21 pm by ForsolongaRover »
In attack particularly, the value of team work was hardly evident, yet with supposedly expert coaching, you wonder what added value Schofield provides.

It was scrappy and they got away with some fortunate escapes when Tranmere were on top particularly in the first half. The individual skill of the opposition players and teamwork was a good deal better for the majority of the 90 minutes. We were never really in control; passing and tactics were haphazard with little mutual understanding.

And yes Campsall, Mitchell is reliable and and it was reassuring to have Olowu back even if the coach could not see his value by starting him. We have two at the back who can head the ball properly now as well, but it no wonder that Tranmere were another team who obviously targeted RSW as the weakest defensive link.

It will be interesting to discover whether Schofield recognised that there is huge scope for improvement. And what was his rationale for not playing Lavery? What little I have seen of him in the previous game suggested that he was more of a team player.




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« Reply #29 on February 07, 2023, 11:51:07 pm by Jonathan »
In attack particularly, the value of team work was hardly evident, yet with supposedly expert coaching, you wonder what added value Schofield provides.

It was scrappy and they got away with some fortunate escapes when Tranmere were on top particularly in the first half. The individual skill of the opposition players and teamwork was a good deal better for the majority of the 90 minutes. We were never really in control; passing and tactics were haphazard with little mutual understanding.

And yes Campsall, Mitchell is reliable and and it was reassuring to have Olowu back even if the coach could not see his value by starting him. We have two at the back who can head the ball properly now as well, but it no wonder that Tranmere were another team who obviously targeted RSW as the weakest defensive link.

It will be interesting to discover whether Schofield recognised that there is huge scope for improvement. And what was his rationale for not playing Lavery? What little I have seen of him in the previous game suggested that he was more of a team player.





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