Luke Molyneux

[Filo]

There’s clearly a good player in there somewhere but we’ve rarely seen it. Forrester is a good comparison.

Is it because of the system and what he’s being told to do? If he was just told to do what you do best, keep wide, cut in and shoot loads or get crosses in would that do it?

He doesn’t cut in and shoot very good either, in fact I’m struggling to think of what he is good at, apart from loosing the ball all the time

[Cramby10]

Many months ago I got put in my place regarding this player. Apparently it’s “the modern way” teams play and he could effectively do the job similar to Mo Salah. Laughing then and laughing now. He has no pace, skill nor noise to beat a man. He just loses the ball. However, he doesn’t have a bad left peg. For me he needs to hug the left touch line, shift the ball out of his feet and get plenty of crosses into the box. It may not be in “fashion” these days but it functional. Defenders hate defending crosses on the half turn. And we maybe just maybe create a few chances for the poor old strikers. It worked well enough for Dave Cotterill.

[Silkscarf]

But Schofield’s never going to say hug the left touchline, take people on. He’s a wide player and we don’t play with any width.

[Cramby10]

But Schofield’s never going to say hug the left touchline, take people on. He’s a wide player and we don’t play with any width.

I know!!!! That’s the problem!

[DonnyOsmond]

How's his xG numbers?

[5minstogo]

Neshes any possibility of a challenge. Cuts inside almost every time and can't get a shot away without scuffing it. If Todd Miller is behind him in the pecking order then he must be really shit.

[ncRover]

We’re talking about the system and the role he’s deployed in etc.

But Luke is a grown man who has moulded himself in to that role. He’s in his mid 20s so should be in his prime. With the rate of the decline of the standard of football at this club we don’t have time next season to see if he’s up to it. Apart from one game in 29, we haven’t seen much evidence of sufficient talent.

xG of 1.89 all season by the way.

[Filo]

We’re talking about the system and the role he’s deployed in etc.

But Luke is a grown man who has moulded himself in to that role. He’s in his mid 20s so should be in his prime. With the rate of the decline of the standard of football at this club we don’t have time next season to see if he’s up to it. Apart from one game in 29, we haven’t seen much evidence of sufficient talent.

xG of 1.89 all season by the way.

Easy to defend against, just show him onto his right foot and he’s knackered

[knockers]

I’m not sure if he’s a wingerless winger or a footballess footballer!
Probably both as he’s just plain shit!

[steve@dcfd]

Let’s be a bit radical maybe play a left footed wide player on the left. But he’s a one trick pony cuts inside and takes a shot but he’s been found out and now there’s nothing else.

[Draytonian III]

What is this xG thingy

[Canadian Rover]

I’m not sure if he’s a wingerless winger or a footballess footballer!
Probably both as he’s just plain shit!

He's not shit though. Neither is Kyle Hurst or Miller (he's lacking technically) it's the system, set up and structure.

[Cramby10]

I’m not sure if he’s a wingerless winger or a footballess footballer!
Probably both as he’s just plain shit!

He's not shit though. Neither is Kyle Hurst or Miller (he's lacking technically) it's the system, set up and structure.

they have their merits and the system is appalling but they are too lightweight and don’t have much pace. They need surrounding by players with these attributes to succeed. And from the midfield forwards we have none in the entire squad.

[ncRover]

It’s nobody else’s fault that he loses the ball so much and doesn’t get stuck in

[MachoMadness]

What is this xG thingy

A metric that judges players against the quality of the chances they take/don't take. Top strikers like Kane generally score at or above their xG, that is to say they score more difficult chances as well as the sitters. We all know Kane is a great finisher, but xG puts a number on it and tells you how good he is.

If you fluff loads of chances from 6 yards out you'll end up scoring at a rate lower than your xG, which means these players are getting in great positions and not converting. This can be used to find undervalued, high potential players who go under the radar because they don't score enough goals, but they could in the right team.

There is a lot more to it obviously, but those turning their nose up should be aware there's a reason historically similar size clubs like Brentford, Brighton etc use this metric smartly along with many others, and that's why they are where they are, and why we are where we are.

Not saying fans should particularly care - personally I don't go to games with a notebook and calculator out - but the club should, and there's no evidence that they do.

[Bailey Vickerage]

I actually thought molyneux had a good first half yesterday and was the one who looked most likely to score, second half he faded and tbh probs should’ve come off earlier than he did (again, DS made the subs too late).

Clearly is a player in there somewhere it’s just that we need to find the right way to utilise him. Ppl saying play him on the left are wrong aswell, he’s never played on the left, at Hartlepool he was always on the right cutting in onto his left and 90% of his goals came that way.

[Cramby10]

I actually thought molyneux had a good first half yesterday and was the one who looked most likely to score, second half he faded and tbh probs should’ve come off earlier than he did (again, DS made the subs too late).

Clearly is a player in there somewhere it’s just that we need to find the right way to utilise him. Ppl saying play him on the left are wrong aswell, he’s never played on the left, at Hartlepool he was always on the right cutting in onto his left and 90% of his goals came that way.

ah well that’s serving him well then languishing in the lower reaches of league 2. Maybe he ought to try. Might surprise himself

[Usher down the wing.]

I actually thought molyneux had a good first half yesterday and was the one who looked most likely to score, second half he faded and tbh probs should’ve come off earlier than he did (again, DS made the subs too late).

Clearly is a player in there somewhere it’s just that we need to find the right way to utilise him. Ppl saying play him on the left are wrong aswell, he’s never played on the left, at Hartlepool he was always on the right cutting in onto his left and 90% of his goals came that way.

100% of his goals for the Rovers have come that way, all two of them.

He’s not a speedy player, able to knock the ball past a player & still reach it first.

He doesn’t have a cross in him, probably because he’s a left footer playing wide right?

He’s also very lightweight & easily dispossessed or knocked off the ball.

He hasn’t been able (but he’s in a large group here!) to form a ‘relationship’ with any player in the side. I know I’m comparing with vastly superior players but Copps, Wellens, Wilson, Stock, Oster we’re all on the same wave length, looking for one another & getting into positions to receive the ball from one another. The managers fault?

It’s not helpful (knockers) just calling him s**t, explaining why YOU feel ne is might be more useful.

[ncRover]

What is this xG thingy

A metric that judges players against the quality of the chances they take/don't take. Top strikers like Kane generally score at or above their xG, that is to say they score more difficult chances as well as the sitters. We all know Kane is a great finisher, but xG puts a number on it and tells you how good he is.

If you fluff loads of chances from 6 yards out you'll end up scoring at a rate lower than your xG, which means these players are getting in great positions and not converting. This can be used to find undervalued, high potential players who go under the radar because they don't score enough goals, but they could in the right team.

There is a lot more to it obviously, but those turning their nose up should be aware there's a reason historically similar size clubs like Brentford, Brighton etc use this metric smartly along with many others, and that's why they are where they are, and why we are where we are.

Not saying fans should particularly care - personally I don't go to games with a notebook and calculator out - but the club should, and there's no evidence that they do.

It also shows you how busy they are in an attacking sense for me. How often they are getting themselves in to goal scoring areas and fashioning chances for themselves etc.

In his position you’d expect him to be a combination of goal and assist threat. But  Molyneux is 47th in the league for expected assists.

The individual stats for our entire squad are dreadful.

[GazLaz]

One trick pony whose trick isn’t very good.

[Filo]

One trick pony whose trick isn’t very good.

Agreed 100%

[ravenrover]

Got me with his comments"you" have to do this "you" have to do that, where was the "we"?
He's yet to win me over