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Donnyjim

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #1 on March 27, 2023, 10:00:55 am by Donnyjim »
Beat me to it. I was about to post this. Its 100% accurate of where we are and where we are heading. Very very sad indeed.

drfchound

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It’s not just us who have noticed then.
When will the club wake up to this.

Campsall rover

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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/dismal-doncaster-rovers-losing-their-identity-and-soul-amid-worrying-times-4079813

A very true picture of how it was v Northampton and how it is at DRFC at present.

It’s so sad to read but it was an honest appraisal and needed reporting.

Is anyone going to do anything to arrest this slide though. Is anyone going to wake up to the reality that this coach needs to go NOW.


Donnyjim

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #4 on March 27, 2023, 10:22:51 am by Donnyjim »
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/dismal-doncaster-rovers-losing-their-identity-and-soul-amid-worrying-times-4079813

A very true picture of how it was v Northampton and how it is at DRFC at present.

It’s so sad to read but it was an honest appraisal and needed reporting.

Is anyone going to do anything to arrest this slide though. Is anyone going to wake up to the reality that this coach needs to go NOW.



It's much deeper than the coach. Changing him and getting a new one is the equivalent to polishing a turd. It will bargin bucket polish.

Filo

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #5 on March 27, 2023, 10:24:14 am by Filo »
You just can’t argue with that at all, and yet we still sit here being totally pissed off and not a peep out of anyone at the club

Petche

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #6 on March 27, 2023, 10:28:07 am by Petche »
Come on Rovers, take a leaf from Tottenham and Conte, they realised it wasn't working so came to a mutual agreement!

sedwardsdrfc

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Queue social media video interview from the club making out everything is going to plan.

steve@dcfd

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It’s more than getting rid of the manager I’m not saying I like his tactics. But will any really good manager want this job.

DD

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #9 on March 27, 2023, 10:52:34 am by DD »
Its not just about the manager though - Schofield is just a reflection of Coppinger - they must BOTH go!

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #10 on March 27, 2023, 10:57:18 am by pib »
There is no way out of this without major changes.

Smart people running the football operation who know how to recruit a talented, coherent, and physically capable bunch of players.

Comms and marketing people who know how to drum up anticipation, ticket sales and can help to generate a feeling of honesty, transparency and togetherness. "If everyone brought a friend we'd have 50% extra ticket income" isn't a strategy, and isn't good enough.

Changes to the stadium and whole match day experience - cleanliness, maintenance, catering, and ideas to make it feel less like a cavernous empty bowl of red seats (in person and on TV - what must floating fans in the town think when they see the goals on TV and there are 12 people visible in the East Stand?)

A re-vamp of online systems and customer service - ticket website is clunky and if anything doesn't work, there are no solutions forthcoming. "Just call the box office" isn't good enough and this friction will make casual fans/visitors just give up and will be costing us ticket sales, no doubt.

All the above requires effort and investment, and above all an acceptance that things aren't good enough. Will we get that from the current board and senior leadership staff? Judging by their media output and the MTO answers, I won't hold my breath.

I won't even get on to the Head Coach. That needs its own dissertation.

Sammy Chung was King

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Like one of our fans had written it.

ravenrover

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #12 on March 27, 2023, 11:46:35 am by ravenrover »
More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

pib

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #13 on March 27, 2023, 12:10:23 pm by pib »
More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

...or Mr Wobschall is an experienced and diligent reporter who covers our club and is aware of the wider issues and feeling within the fanbase?

He's from round here as well I believe, so will have his ear to the ground no doubt.

Campsall rover

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More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from
Sorry ravenrover disagree with you.

He is a good sports journalist and as has been said will have his ear to the ground and will have done his homework before writing that piece.

Let’s face it everything he said was bang on the mark. 

pib

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #15 on March 27, 2023, 12:46:29 pm by pib »
Sometimes you must feel damned if you do and damned if you don't as a reporter in these situations.

If he'd come out with a straight-bat match report and not acknowledged our problems, I'm sure folk would be saying he hasn't done his research and that a regional journalist should be equipped with sufficient knowledge to put the game in context.

I personally think he's encapsulated the feeling at the club and packaged it in a well written piece there.

ravenrover

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #16 on March 27, 2023, 12:56:19 pm by ravenrover »
More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from
Sorry ravenrover disagree with you.

He is a good sports journalist and as has been said will have his ear to the ground and will have done his homework before writing that piece.

Let’s face it everything he said was bang on the mark. 
And everything he said has already been said on here

Campsall rover

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More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from
Sorry ravenrover disagree with you.

He is a good sports journalist and as has been said will have his ear to the ground and will have done his homework before writing that piece.

Let’s face it everything he said was bang on the mark. 
And everything he said has already been said on here
So what should he have written then?

Donny Exile in York

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More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

The journalist in question was at the Keepmoat on Saturday and is well versed on the position at Donny, so stick your conspiracy theories up your proverbial.  Even when it is to the point with feeling yes it probably does capture alot of what people as saying on here, because that is stark and the reality of the situation. You sit in your cave then or with your head in the sand, looking ridiculous in complete denial of reality. Its not lazy journalism, its idiotic fans in denial that's the real issue. Your outnumbered more and more, more and more alienated in your view. Time to wake up and smell the coffee or become the forum laughing stock.

I was in the East stand on Saturday and i couldn't believe how empty both the south stand and west stand looked, very worrying and if action isan't taken, it will probably be even more desolate next season.

I think that we needed and need an experienced manager who is results focused and got a track record of promotions out of this division (e.g. a Darren Ferguson, a Steve Evans) and the fact that we haven't, and the board have appointed the opposite again tells its own story of the board's plans and ambition.
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Lesonthewest

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You just can’t argue with that at all, and yet we still sit here being totally pissed off and not a peep out of anyone at the club
It’s more than getting rid of the manager I’m not saying I like his tactics. But will any really good manager want this job.

I would say yes, if the board of directors show more ambition, enthusiasm,
 forward thinking,  & sell the club to any decent applicant, or even one we went after, they're out there.  Sadly, I think that ships sailed.

aidanstu

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #20 on March 27, 2023, 02:18:18 pm by aidanstu »
You just can’t argue with that at all, and yet we still sit here being totally pissed off and not a peep out of anyone at the club
It’s more than getting rid of the manager I’m not saying I like his tactics. But will any really good manager want this job.

I would say yes, if the board of directors show more ambition, enthusiasm,
 forward thinking,  & sell the club to any decent applicant, or even one we went after, they're out there.  Sadly, I think that ships sailed.

Who is there of any decent calibre that would seriously consider risky their careers under this board? A board who repeatedly pat their selves on the back for not having to input funds into the club whilst simultaneously engaging in actions that reduce crowds and the clubs budget. Then when their strategy reaches its natural conclusion the manager gets blames by them and the supporters they have managed to gas light?

Alan Southstand

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Not much to add, except I wish it had come about 12 months sooner. A very good piece as most have already said and, like I have said on other threads, if the Club is not for investing more financial help, then fair enough, but just changing the manager/coach is pointless. There is a total lack of quality throughout this squad and the first thing any manager (worth his salt) will want is squad re-enforcement. Change from the top needed or suffer the consequences. Simple as that.

Wild Rover

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #22 on March 27, 2023, 03:03:16 pm by Wild Rover »
More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

...or Mr Wobschall is an experienced and diligent reporter who covers our club and is aware of the wider issues and feeling within the fanbase?

He's from round here as well I believe, so will have his ear to the ground no doubt.

I know all his family very well. They all say things as they are, and he would have no need to "look on here" and become a lazy Journo.  He is from Doncaster ( as you say).

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Ranting on here is one thing, but when it’s reported further afield then someone somewhere has to take note.
This should hurt those pulling the strings the most.
And I fully expect this to be referenced in upcoming interviews.

ravenrover

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Re: Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch
« Reply #24 on March 27, 2023, 03:11:42 pm by ravenrover »
More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

The journalist in question was at the Keepmoat on Saturday and is well versed on the position at Donny, so stick your conspiracy theories up your proverbial.  Even when it is to the point with feeling yes it probably does capture alot of what people as saying on here, because that is stark and the reality of the situation. You sit in your cave then or with your head in the sand, looking ridiculous in complete denial of reality. Its not lazy journalism, its idiotic fans in denial that's the real issue. Your outnumbered more and more, more and more alienated in your view. Time to wake up and smell the coffee or become the forum laughing stock.

I was in the East stand on Saturday and i couldn't believe how empty both the south stand and west stand looked, very worrying and if action isan't taken, it will probably be even more desolate next season.

I think that we needed and need an experienced manager who is results focused and got a track record of promotions out of this division (e.g. a Darren Ferguson, a Steve Evans) and the fact that we haven't, and the board have appointed the opposite again tells its own story of the board's plans and ambition.
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Where did I say it wasn't correct,  where is my denial that the situation is shocking?
I agree with the things he talks  the article but as I said all been previously said on here
Try using your eyes and thinking with your brain not your fingers and  since you mention it my cave is very comfortable thanks

DonnyBazR0ver

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It's a reasonable observation and one that we don't really need reminding of when we're living it week in week out.

Whatever period we choose to compare our fortunes to, there are some things that aren't as bad as some make out but, no matter what we say, the solutions are as elusive as a common opinion or any potential new investors.

DonnyOsmond

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Its not just about the manager though - Schofield is just a reflection of Coppinger - they must BOTH go!

Then we're back in the position of Blunt and co picking our manager and the circus resumes.

Donny Exile in York

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More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

The journalist in question was at the Keepmoat on Saturday and is well versed on the position at Donny, so stick your conspiracy theories up your proverbial.  Even when it is to the point with feeling yes it probably does capture alot of what people as saying on here, because that is stark and the reality of the situation. You sit in your cave then or with your head in the sand, looking ridiculous in complete denial of reality. Its not lazy journalism, its idiotic fans in denial that's the real issue. Your outnumbered more and more, more and more alienated in your view. Time to wake up and smell the coffee or become the forum laughing stock.

I was in the East stand on Saturday and i couldn't believe how empty both the south stand and west stand looked, very worrying and if action isan't taken, it will probably be even more desolate next season.

I think that we needed and need an experienced manager who is results focused and got a track record of promotions out of this division (e.g. a Darren Ferguson, a Steve Evans) and the fact that we haven't, and the board have appointed the opposite again tells its own story of the board's plans and ambition.
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Where did I say it wasn't correct,  where is my denial that the situation is shocking?
I agree with the things he talks  the article but as I said all been previously said on here
Try using your eyes and thinking with your brain not your fingers and  since you mention it my cave is very comfortable thanks

You tried to dismiss it as lazy journalism which it quite frankly isan't so that is trying to dismiss it, now you appear to be back tracking, as i say, you are becoming more and more alienated in your views and defence of the indefensible.

Lesonthewest

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Ranting on here is one thing, but when it’s reported further afield then someone somewhere has to take note.
This should hurt those pulling the strings the most.
And I fully expect this to be referenced in upcoming interviews.

I know one thing, being a mere supporter, if it was my club & I read reports like the Yorkshire Post one & took notice of our excellent fanbase, ( that they have helped create), I would be on it like a ton of bricks.

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The flat earth brown nosers are noticeable by their absence I see.

 

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