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ncRover

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The Process will work
« on March 27, 2023, 07:36:31 pm by ncRover »
The Process will deliver promotion. With football being played The Right Way.

We just need our proven recruitment team to sign some fit, athletic, creative, composed and technically gifted players in every single position on the pitch. Such footballers who also haven’t been spotted by any richer clubs that is, to sign for a declining mid table league two club with a losing mentality and an inexperienced manager. Then we are good to go!

Bring on next season. You lot just need to stop being so narrow-minded, it’s not like anything is on the line!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 07:44:49 pm by ncRover »



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mpc123

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #1 on March 27, 2023, 07:40:07 pm by mpc123 »
I'm so surprised he has not gone today.

Rolling contract of 12 months. May as well get rid now

normal rules

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #2 on March 27, 2023, 08:36:18 pm by normal rules »
The Process will deliver promotion. With football being played The Right Way.

We just need our proven recruitment team to sign some fit, athletic, creative, composed and technically gifted players in every single position on the pitch. Such footballers who also haven’t been spotted by any richer clubs that is, to sign for a declining mid table league two club with a losing mentality and an inexperienced manager. Then we are good to go!

Bring on next season. You lot just need to stop being so narrow-minded, it’s not like anything is on the line!

Drinking on a school night ?

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #3 on March 27, 2023, 08:46:28 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
The only process under way is the process of Schofield getting his P45. More drawn out than is needed but it’s only a matter of time now

scawsby steve

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #4 on March 27, 2023, 08:48:14 pm by scawsby steve »
The Process will deliver promotion. With football being played The Right Way.

We just need our proven recruitment team to sign some fit, athletic, creative, composed and technically gifted players in every single position on the pitch. Such footballers who also haven’t been spotted by any richer clubs that is, to sign for a declining mid table league two club with a losing mentality and an inexperienced manager. Then we are good to go!

Bring on next season. You lot just need to stop being so narrow-minded, it’s not like anything is on the line!

Drinking on a school night ?

WHOOSH!!!

normal rules

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #5 on March 27, 2023, 09:04:52 pm by normal rules »
I suspected sarcasm.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #6 on March 27, 2023, 09:06:16 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I thought it was serious on 1st reading. To be fair didn’t read the second part but the start is ver convincing of what a delusional mad man would write!

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #7 on March 27, 2023, 09:08:25 pm by Butchers Red »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

normal rules

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #8 on March 27, 2023, 09:11:56 pm by normal rules »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

I’ve been trying to piece it together.
My early understanding was a structured approach by “playing from the back. “
But then long balls count as playing from the back too by all accounts.
And given we don’t have a target player, such as Akinfenwe, I’m puzzled now as to what the process actually is.
His process also seems very cautious and very much on the defensive side. It’s certainly not a possession game like SOD extolled.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 09:16:22 pm by normal rules »

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #9 on March 27, 2023, 09:12:57 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

Just a buzz word he heard Koop and Pep say. Thinks it means never change no matter what.

Upton Rover

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #10 on March 27, 2023, 09:25:25 pm by Upton Rover »
The Process will deliver promotion. With football being played The Right Way.

We just need our proven recruitment team to sign some fit, athletic, creative, composed and technically gifted players in every single position on the pitch. Such footballers who also haven’t been spotted by any richer clubs that is, to sign for a declining mid table league two club with a losing mentality and an inexperienced manager. Then we are good to go!

Bring on next season. You lot just need to stop being so narrow-minded, it’s not like anything is on the line!
No cash

scawsby steve

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #11 on March 27, 2023, 09:46:11 pm by scawsby steve »
What still amazes me out of the whole season was that game at Grimsby when we came out of the traps like a team possessed, and ripped Grimsby apart.

Were DS and the players all on amphetamines that day? If not, why haven't they done it since?

Maybe it upset the process too much.

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #12 on March 27, 2023, 09:53:45 pm by danumdon »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

I’ve been trying to piece it together.
My early understanding was a structured approach by “playing from the back. “
But then long balls count as playing from the back too by all accounts.
And given we don’t have a target player, such as Akinfenwe, I’m puzzled now as to what the process actually is.
His process also seems very cautious and very much on the defensive side. It’s certainly not a possession game like SOD extolled.

I actually think the plan is for a possession control game like SOD but in our latest version it fails at the first hurdle because our goalie and defenders are not good enough to advance the ball beyond the 18yard line, so ultimately it end up being a hoof from the back forward to no one in particular because we don’t possess a proper holdup merchant in the Chris Brown type mould.

Rinse and repeat till doomsday.

Batleyred

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #13 on March 27, 2023, 09:55:58 pm by Batleyred »
Were DS and the players all on amphetamines that day? If not, why haven't they done it since?
:headbang:

They haven't slept since. Fundamentals of not sleeping is not winning   :scarf: :laugh: it's part of the process  :) :woot:

Don Revor

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #14 on March 27, 2023, 10:25:51 pm by Don Revor »
Maybe the players are being fed too much information for league two football. Whatever happened to basic instruction, hard work... and possibly an authoritative person in charge.

Bessie Red

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #15 on March 28, 2023, 12:03:23 am by Bessie Red »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

I’ve been trying to piece it together.
My early understanding was a structured approach by “playing from the back. “
But then long balls count as playing from the back too by all accounts.
And given we don’t have a target player, such as Akinfenwe, I’m puzzled now as to what the process actually is.
His process also seems very cautious and very much on the defensive side. It’s certainly not a possession game like SOD extolled.
In his latest interview he said that it was a process that will win football games!
That's okay then we are in safe hands after all!

bpoolrover

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #16 on March 28, 2023, 01:19:37 am by bpoolrover »
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

I’ve been trying to piece it together.
My early understanding was a structured approach by “playing from the back. “
But then long balls count as playing from the back too by all accounts.
And given we don’t have a target player, such as Akinfenwe, I’m puzzled now as to what the process actually is.
His process also seems very cautious and very much on the defensive side. It’s certainly not a possession game like SOD extolled.

I actually think the plan is for a possession control game like SOD but in our latest version it fails at the first hurdle because our goalie and defenders are not good enough to advance the ball beyond the 18yard line, so ultimately it end up being a hoof from the back forward to no one in particular because we don’t possess a proper holdup merchant in the Chris Brown type mould.

Rinse and repeat till doomsday.
while you let probably right about the goalie and defenders, I think the main problem is the midfield, it is static no movement no looking for the ball, that's why Clayton was so poor because he had no one to pass to so had to turn back everytine

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #17 on March 28, 2023, 02:07:15 am by Sammy Chung was King »
I think Coppinger saw him as the nearest to O’Driscoll, he listened to fans wanting a team that plays good football, but he has talked a good game and delivered very little.

ncRover

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #18 on March 28, 2023, 06:28:33 am by ncRover »
I don’t think it is an excuse to say he hasn’t got his own players. No the majority aren’t up to standard and he didn’t choose them, but we can see the cognitive dissonance playing out right in front of us. He wants to play it out from the back whilst offering Anderson a new contract and making him captain. We know that one is on the table for Mitchell as well. 2 players in crucial positions that are the antithesis of that style. A style and system that is unproven at this level with this rank of budget.

Wanting him gone and an overhaul of the vision of the football operation is now the pragmatic, sensible preference. If you offered me the next 2 seasons in league 2 finishing 9th with average attendances of 7k I would bite your hand off right now because I fear that the current trajectory is far worse. Good football is built on solid ground, not the sands of Schofield.

The most recent time this club was previously sucked of it’s soul and identity was “The Experiment”. I can get behind this team more than I can the mercenaries of that one. But for the club there is a lot more on the line right now. Giving Schofield the summer and next season, I would brand as “The Existential Risk”.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 06:39:10 am by ncRover »

Avsuptem

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #19 on March 28, 2023, 06:50:09 am by Avsuptem »
There's a difference between now and the experiment. The experiment was perpetrated by a totally committed owner who genuinely wanted the club to succeed.

Avsuptem

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #20 on March 28, 2023, 07:00:38 am by Avsuptem »
I think Coppinger saw him as the nearest to O’Driscoll, he listened to fans wanting a team that plays good football, but he has talked a good game and delivered very little.
This may well be the case and is probably the reason DS is retained. SOD had better players at his disposal and given time and better recruitment the process might work also. The clatter on this forum would soon die down if we strung a few wins together, personally I can't see that happening and fan power + the Yorkshire Post article could force the owner's hands.

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #21 on March 28, 2023, 07:37:40 am by roversdude »
The problem is once a team susses out how to play against us there is no plan B. Let’s face it every team knows that they can let us have the ball and we won’t hurt them

Campsall rover

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #22 on March 28, 2023, 09:07:37 am by Campsall rover »
 :party:
Exactly what is "The Process" ??

Some magical way of doubling the size of the oppositions goal and halving yours ?

And who the f*ck does he think he is that somehow he has found a new,better way to play the wonderful game than all the greats that have gone before!

It beggars belief really.

I’ve been trying to piece it together.
My early understanding was a structured approach by “playing from the back. “
But then long balls count as playing from the back too by all accounts.
And given we don’t have a target player, such as Akinfenwe, I’m puzzled now as to what the process actually is.
His process also seems very cautious and very much on the defensive side. It’s certainly not a possession game like SOD extolled.

I actually think the plan is for a possession control game like SOD but in our latest version it fails at the first hurdle because our goalie and defenders are not good enough to advance the ball beyond the 18yard line, so ultimately it end up being a hoof from the back forward to no one in particular because we don’t possess a proper holdup merchant in the Chris Brown type mould.

Rinse and repeat till doomsday.
while you let probably right about the goalie and defenders, I think the main problem is the midfield, it is static no movement no looking for the ball, that's why Clayton was so poor because he had no one to pass to so had to turn back everytine
We are also short of a man in midfield.
It’s very simple. Take a man out of the back 3/5  and play an extra midfielder.  We are outnumbered almost every game because most teams play 3 on the middle.
The lack of movement is shocking as you say. We have no one with some steel in the middle of the park and therefore we have no control. 
Our lone striker is chasing lost causes because we just boot it forward.  Our wide players never get the service because they are so easy to mark again due to not building forward momentum from midfield.
The wing backs are not able to get forward and support attacks again due to no control of the midfield
So in effect we are playing with a flat back 5 for the majority of each game.

It’s not rocket science DS. We can all see it so why do you persist with a “process” that isn’t working and will never work with this group of players.
This is League 2 DS not the Premier League. Wake up & smell the coffee.  Your time is up. Go and apply for the Spurs job. As you intend to be the best coach in the world maybe your master plan might come off at Tottenham Hotspur. 

  :facepalm: :headbang:
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 09:10:24 am by Campsall rover »

POD

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #23 on March 28, 2023, 09:31:55 am by POD »
I can’t recall us scoring a goal or even making a good scoring chance which has come as a result of playing out from the back.   

A couple of times against Northampton, Mitchell was forced to kick the ball upfield and we then scrapped for the second ball and won possession in their half.   Northampton did it more regularly, often to good effect.   

It’s not pretty,  it’s not scientific,  it’s not part of the process… but it can be effective and gives more opportunity to ultimately get the ball into the opposition box and make scoring opportunities.   

red w(h)ine

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #24 on March 28, 2023, 02:08:48 pm by red w(h)ine »
I'm guessing that this article covers 'the process'. Given the amount of money that Arsenal have thrown at it, it's not hard to see the difficulty in trying to get it to work at Doncaster.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/trust-process-how-sports-mantra-21533849

Cramby10

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #25 on March 28, 2023, 02:24:38 pm by Cramby10 »
Christ! If it takes us 8 years to get it right we could be in the Sunday morning pub league by then.

Bessie Red

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« Reply #26 on March 28, 2023, 02:44:19 pm by Bessie Red »
I'm guessing that this article covers 'the process'. Given the amount of money that Arsenal have thrown at it, it's not hard to see the difficulty in trying to get it to work at Doncaster.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/trust-process-how-sports-mantra-21533849

When our Donny fans going to start seeing minor improvements, all I've seen is the team regressing since DS came in!

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #27 on March 28, 2023, 07:18:29 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
That’s the next question that I don’t think was asked of DS. If this process will win games how long till he expects us to win games with some regularity.

Might guide us in a decision re his future. Obviously he wouldn’t answer it

Cramby10

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #28 on March 28, 2023, 07:43:29 pm by Cramby10 »
That’s the next question that I don’t think was asked of DS. If this process will win games how long till he expects us to win games with some regularity.

Might guide us in a decision re his future. Obviously he wouldn’t answer it
it’s not just about winning games though. Win lose or draw, the football is dogshit to watch. Utterly boring. DS seems to think that if he wins an odd game then we won’t moan. Even if we get better players to carry out this process the football will still be slow, laborious and still have a country mile between the midfield and the lone striker. There’s no way in the world can I watch this week in week out regardless of result.

drfchound

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Re: The Process will work
« Reply #29 on March 28, 2023, 08:30:03 pm by drfchound »
Christ! If it takes us 8 years to get it right we could be in the Sunday morning pub league by then.

In 8 years we will probably be in a lower league than that new start up team, Doncaster City.
There is an article in the DFP promoting them and their 17 game winning start to the season in The Sheffield and Hallamshire Senior League.

 

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