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Should he be sacked

Yes
167 (84.8%)
No
30 (15.2%)

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Filo

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Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« on April 02, 2023, 12:48:32 pm by Filo »
Still yes for me



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donnybez

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #1 on April 02, 2023, 01:38:25 pm by donnybez »
I suspect the reason he's still sat in post is more to do with the clubs finances - i.e. sacking him costs money, than it is to do with them having confidence in him.

glosterred

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #2 on April 02, 2023, 02:01:17 pm by glosterred »
Sacking him now would mean we’d be paying for 2 ex-managers to sit at home and collect their wages or pay off, however they receive their money. We would also have to pay a third manager to run the football team. It would I suspect impinge on the budget somewhat. But I’d still like to see him gone.

COYR

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #3 on April 02, 2023, 02:10:35 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Someone on here said the other day that sacking DS should be seen as an investment.

Yes we have a cost of paying him off but get the replacement right and we will improve ticket sales before the summer and then during next season as we play better. Also the likes of Hurst and Olowu need to be playing in a team doing well if their value is to increase.

If DS stays yes you save another managers salary but lose ticket sales and not one of our players is going to be sold for a decent number with him around. Even the likes of Faulkner you can see leaving for nothing because DS won’t play him from the start.

Upton Rover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #4 on April 02, 2023, 02:17:27 pm by Upton Rover »
We got to sack him now, the payoff he would get, is just the same now as it was 12 weeks ago or 12 weeks from now, it’s a rolling contract, so will always take 12 months severance

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #5 on April 02, 2023, 02:20:16 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
We got to sack him now, the payoff he would get, is just the same now as it was 12 weeks ago or 12 weeks from now, it’s a rolling contract, so will always take 12 months severance

It’s only that the club would be paying 3 wages if they sack DS now. Gary Mc is still been paid till Oct this year. Value of money is same whenever you do it but eventually it’ll stay sucking money from other areas.

Still the manager is the most important job in the club. Spend on that and find savings elsewhere imo. He has to go

Campsall rover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #6 on April 02, 2023, 02:24:14 pm by Campsall rover »
Someone on here said the other day that sacking DS should be seen as an investment.

Yes we have a cost of paying him off but get the replacement right and we will improve ticket sales before the summer and then during next season as we play better. Also the likes of Hurst and Olowu need to be playing in a team doing well if their value is to increase.

If DS stays yes you save another managers salary but lose ticket sales and not one of our players is going to be sold for a decent number with him around. Even the likes of Faulkner you can see leaving for nothing because DS won’t play him from the start.
Bang on.

Keep him and it will cost this club a huge amount of money. It could be terminal unless TB is going to fund huge losses or we get a new owner very quickly.  Are either of these scenarios likely to happen?

Desperately worrying this is. It ihas gone 2.00pm and not a squeak. Not even a vote of confidence.
The silence is deafening.
Is Blunt in the country? Was he at the match yesterday? Has he grasped the seriousness of the situation?
Does he even care?
We would never know. The invisible Chairman. What a shambles. I am disgusted by this lack of action.
We are the only Club in the 92 + National League & North/South that would not have dismissed their Manager  / Head coach at after yesterday and previous games performances and results.
ONLY ONE
It’s quite frighteningly scary.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #7 on April 02, 2023, 02:27:20 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
This is the problem when the owners don’t have a financial stake in the club’s performance. Or at least not a serious one. If they cared as genuine fans we’d not be here now. If they were having to put cash into the club we’d not have DS at this point.

Campsall rover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #8 on April 02, 2023, 02:29:13 pm by Campsall rover »
We got to sack him now, the payoff he would get, is just the same now as it was 12 weeks ago or 12 weeks from now, it’s a rolling contract, so will always take 12 months severance
Unless there is a clause in the contract that say’s otherwise.
Every possibility there is. We do not know.

ncRover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #9 on April 02, 2023, 02:51:36 pm by ncRover »
Someone on here said the other day that sacking DS should be seen as an investment.

Yes we have a cost of paying him off but get the replacement right and we will improve ticket sales before the summer and then during next season as we play better. Also the likes of Hurst and Olowu need to be playing in a team doing well if their value is to increase.

If DS stays yes you save another managers salary but lose ticket sales and not one of our players is going to be sold for a decent number with him around. Even the likes of Faulkner you can see leaving for nothing because DS won’t play him from the start.

Yes that was me, I’m glad you all agree.

My next question is, will we still have to pay him for the year if he walks? I don’t suppose that can be answered.

roversdude

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #10 on April 02, 2023, 03:10:24 pm by roversdude »
I was backing him but no excuse after yesterday he’s seriously lost the plot-let’s give somebody the time to have a good summer assembling and coaching a squad that wants to play for Rovers

i_ateallthepies

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #11 on April 02, 2023, 03:25:53 pm by i_ateallthepies »
We got to sack him now, the payoff he would get, is just the same now as it was 12 weeks ago or 12 weeks from now, it’s a rolling contract, so will always take 12 months severance

It’s only that the club would be paying 3 wages if they sack DS now. Gary Mc is still been paid till Oct this year. Value of money is same whenever you do it but eventually it’ll stay sucking money from other areas.

Still the manager is the most important job in the club. Spend on that and find savings elsewhere imo. He has to go

sedwards, not disagreeing with much of this but I think there is plenty of evidence to say that all of the savings that could be made have already been made.  There's another recent thread discussing it where the deterioration of stadium maintenance and myriad other examples of cost cutting all of which will have been done in pursuit of the holy grail that is Sustainability.

Wild Rover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #12 on April 02, 2023, 03:27:27 pm by Wild Rover »
They could replace with Brendan Rodgers now. No cash to hand over only pay off of DS. Good manager. Only jesting of course ( no reference to you Ray).

Donnybax

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #13 on April 02, 2023, 03:40:13 pm by Donnybax »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2023, 03:56:03 pm by Donnybax »

Prez

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #14 on April 02, 2023, 03:50:00 pm by Prez »
I will be amazed if he’s still here start of next season

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #15 on April 02, 2023, 04:14:43 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Someone on here said the other day that sacking DS should be seen as an investment.

Yes we have a cost of paying him off but get the replacement right and we will improve ticket sales before the summer and then during next season as we play better. Also the likes of Hurst and Olowu need to be playing in a team doing well if their value is to increase.

If DS stays yes you save another managers salary but lose ticket sales and not one of our players is going to be sold for a decent number with him around. Even the likes of Faulkner you can see leaving for nothing because DS won’t play him from the start.

Yes that was me, I’m glad you all agree.

My next question is, will we still have to pay him for the year if he walks? I don’t suppose that can be answered.

If he walks we shouldn’t. It’s like quitting your job v been made redundant. Only get paid off if it’s forced upon you.

Upton Rover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #16 on April 02, 2023, 04:16:32 pm by Upton Rover »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.
Yes true, but if we get a decent manager with some experience, he can see what he’s got to work with and get rid of the dead wood(quite a lot) before the season starts. We will be up the creek without a paddle if we keep the same staff and then sack him 10 games in

mpc123

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #17 on April 02, 2023, 04:18:36 pm by mpc123 »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.

These players are only looking that bad because of the manager.

normal rules

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #18 on April 02, 2023, 04:26:20 pm by normal rules »
amazing what diff a game makes. pre crewe it as around 75% in favour of him going.
lets have another poll after the gills game (lose)

ncRover

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #19 on April 02, 2023, 04:27:11 pm by ncRover »
Someone on here said the other day that sacking DS should be seen as an investment.

Yes we have a cost of paying him off but get the replacement right and we will improve ticket sales before the summer and then during next season as we play better. Also the likes of Hurst and Olowu need to be playing in a team doing well if their value is to increase.

If DS stays yes you save another managers salary but lose ticket sales and not one of our players is going to be sold for a decent number with him around. Even the likes of Faulkner you can see leaving for nothing because DS won’t play him from the start.

Yes that was me, I’m glad you all agree.

My next question is, will we still have to pay him for the year if he walks? I don’t suppose that can be answered.

If he walks we shouldn’t. It’s like quitting your job v been made redundant. Only get paid off if it’s forced upon you.

Brilliant. Can he do us all a f*cking favour then? I’m sure he can easily get an u23s job somewhere to pay the bills that he’ll enjoy more.

Metalmicky

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #20 on April 02, 2023, 04:49:50 pm by Metalmicky »
I honestly think Filo should chillax a bit...... more poles than Boston...

Donnybax

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #21 on April 02, 2023, 04:59:29 pm by Donnybax »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.

These players are only looking that bad because of the manager.
I think you’re massively overrating our squad, it’s shocking.

Alickismyhero

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #22 on April 02, 2023, 05:02:33 pm by Alickismyhero »
Its a no from me.
Poor results,
loads of injuries,
confidence rock bottom,
nothing to play for no relegation or promotion.
Relax, you make the final decision at the end of the season that's the right time.
I am still a supporter and will always remain a supporter.

andyst79

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #23 on April 02, 2023, 05:22:35 pm by andyst79 »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.

These players are only looking that bad because of the manager.
I think you’re massively overrating our squad, it’s shocking.
The mentality of its awful  irrespective of the manager, it's almost like conceding a goals acceptable amongst other things . But we need to be realistic he's well out of his depth and the sooner we get someone in with experience at this level the better. I've nothing against the guy but it's obvious he's not up to the job, having said that it's not an easy task to whomever comes in.

Rovers91

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #24 on April 02, 2023, 05:22:52 pm by Rovers91 »
Get him sacked now, by time we finish our appointment process it will be end of season. Gives new manager chance to get his foot through door ready for pre season.

Donnybax

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #25 on April 02, 2023, 05:30:13 pm by Donnybax »
If we sack him now, the next manager will have the same diabolical squad and won’t get many, if any, results until the end of the season. He will then be called every name under the sun and we’ll be arguing all summer whether or not he’s good enough.

These players are only looking that bad because of the manager.
I think you’re massively overrating our squad, it’s shocking.
The mentality of its awful  irrespective of the manager, it's almost like conceding a goals acceptable amongst other things . But we need to be realistic he's well out of his depth and the sooner we get someone in with experience at this level the better. I've nothing against the guy but it's obvious he's not up to the job, having said that it's not an easy task to whomever comes in.
I don’t disagree he’s not up to it. I would get rid at the end of the season as I don’t think anyone else would be getting results with this lot. I don’t think giving a new manager a few weeks to see just how bad they are would make a difference. A new manager would want basically an entire new squad if he’d spent 10 weeks or 10 minutes with this shower.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #26 on April 02, 2023, 05:44:20 pm by EasyforDennis »
This is a bit like the managers tactics. You keep asking the same question and getting the same result . :headbang:

Filo

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #27 on April 02, 2023, 05:59:57 pm by Filo »
This is a bit like the managers tactics. You keep asking the same question and getting the same result . :headbang:


It was done to guage if many have changed their mind from the last one

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #28 on April 02, 2023, 06:37:22 pm by EasyforDennis »
This is a bit like the managers tactics. You keep asking the same question and getting the same result . :headbang:


It was done to guage if many have changed their mind from the last one

I would have put a tongue in cheek emoji if there was one. ;)

Redroy

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Re: Should he be sacked fresh poll?
« Reply #29 on April 02, 2023, 06:57:00 pm by Redroy »
Still a no from me but totally understand why people are worried given the lack of pragmatism.

 

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