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adamtherover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #30 on April 06, 2023, 02:37:18 pm by adamtherover »
As the saying goes, "don't let the football get in the way of a good afternoon out at the football" lol



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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #31 on April 06, 2023, 06:35:49 pm by ForsolongaRover »
I think I could have written the replies Schofield supplied to the Radio Sheffield man in his pre-match interview. He has such a limited vocabulary. There is a series of well-worn phrases and zero information. When asked what he had learned about himself he just trotted out the usual trite phrases. He likes to give the impression that whatever happens he knows how to handle it intellectually. He's got all the words to fit any occasion and it's very obvious that his actions don't match up.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #32 on April 07, 2023, 08:57:34 am by Chris Black come back »
I read that today's game is our 4000th league game. That's quite something.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #33 on April 07, 2023, 12:41:05 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I think I could have written the replies Schofield supplied to the Radio Sheffield man in his pre-match interview. He has such a limited vocabulary. There is a series of well-worn phrases and zero information. When asked what he had learned about himself he just trotted out the usual trite phrases. He likes to give the impression that whatever happens he knows how to handle it intellectually. He's got all the words to fit any occasion and it's very obvious that his actions don't match up.

Not too dissimilar to Darren Moore then plus many other managers across the country who attend the sane media training when doing their badges no doubt.

Football always has been full of clichés. It irritates more of course when we loss. 

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #34 on April 07, 2023, 01:59:57 pm by Not Now Kato »
I think I could have written the replies Schofield supplied to the Radio Sheffield man in his pre-match interview. He has such a limited vocabulary. There is a series of well-worn phrases and zero information. When asked what he had learned about himself he just trotted out the usual trite phrases. He likes to give the impression that whatever happens he knows how to handle it intellectually. He's got all the words to fit any occasion and it's very obvious that his actions don't match up.

Not too dissimilar to Darren Moore then plus many other managers across the country who attend the sane media training when doing their badges no doubt.

Football always has been full of clichés. It irritates more of course when we loss.

Yep, and it's been taken up by supporter too. "Strong Spine", "Protect The Defence" and many more......  Yep, it irritates me too  :scarf:

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #35 on April 07, 2023, 02:17:42 pm by StocksArmy »
No Tom Anderson again. Absolutely embarrassing to give the guy a contract AND the armband.

oliver

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #36 on April 07, 2023, 02:24:05 pm by oliver »
Is Anderson injured again?seems like a liability.

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #37 on April 07, 2023, 02:29:06 pm by StocksArmy »
I think unless its a bereavement there is no excuse. He misses far too many games.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #38 on April 07, 2023, 02:58:50 pm by Chris Black come back »
He’s a good player but 2.5 years was not justified. It would likely help him and us if he moved on this summer to a fresh challenge. This looks like a bad decision, as some people thought at the time.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #39 on April 07, 2023, 03:37:32 pm by In the box »
No Tom Anderson again. Absolutely embarrassing to give the guy a contract AND the armband.
Taylor anyone ? But think Anderson is trying to play unlike some !

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #40 on April 07, 2023, 03:55:59 pm by Campsall rover »
Nothing changes does it
1-0 down 44mins

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Upton Rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #41 on April 07, 2023, 04:07:50 pm by Upton Rover »
Nothing changes does it
1-0 down 44mins

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You guys at Priestfield are superstars
I mean the fans

You’ve picked the correct option, however don’t worry all will be well next season, if we can attract some decent players, we will struggle with decent loan signings next season as our contacts in the football world are limited.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #42 on April 07, 2023, 05:14:57 pm by donnybez »
We'll put 11 players on the field.

They'll follow the process.

We'll lose.

Fans will vocally let our feelings be known.

The club won't listen.

Aaaaaaaaannndddd repeat.

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Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #43 on April 07, 2023, 05:18:37 pm by Campsall rover »
We are improving 9 shots
3 on target

Anyone blaming this sh.tb show on injuries is living in cloud cuckoo land

Where did Rowe play today anyone?
BBC formation made no sense as usual
« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 05:23:08 pm by Campsall rover »

Harrogate Rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #44 on April 07, 2023, 05:34:14 pm by Harrogate Rover »
We are improving 9 shots
3 on target

Anyone blaming this sh.tb show on injuries is living in cloud cuckoo land

Where did Rowe play today anyone?
BBC formation made no sense as usual

Tommy played in midfield, with Barlow and Westbrook playing in more advanced positions, supposedly supporting young Goodman. Luke Molyneux played at LWB and did OK to be fair. But it will come as no surprise to you to hear that at no point during the game, despite being a goal down, did he change formation or try anything 'a bit different'.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #45 on April 07, 2023, 05:44:39 pm by anton123 »
I read that today's game is our 4000th league game. That's quite something.
Would of thought it was more if copps alone hit 500

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #46 on April 07, 2023, 05:47:26 pm by Chris Black come back »
Molyneux did well today. Disciplined and then second half really pushed forward well. Close, Westbrooke and Rowe tidy in midfield.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #47 on April 07, 2023, 05:48:12 pm by danumdon »
This has been a classical example of where our "process"driven formation has hit the buffers.

Gillingham are a very basic 4th tier team, big strong and committed with very little skill and enterprise. They get a goal arguably against the run of play at the time after our very slow start due to their own "process" outsmarting ours, big striker takes the attention of the defence and their other striker ghosts in on the back post, unmarked and scores, that we had to rely on the defensive attributes of Moly at left wingback did not help the situation.

And that was the extent of their ambition for the rest of the game, they just knew they could allow us to have the ball in front of them and we could still be playing now without really troubling their keeper. We just play negative and pointless triangles in midfield, usually ending up with the ball finding its way back to Mitchell, where's the creativity, go forward and gut busting surges forward to relieve our beleaguered and massively out gunned lone forward, Goodman tried his best but was marked by three big defenders who took turns to kick lumps out of him throughout the match without any protection from poor officials. That he finally succumbed to the effort and was replaced by the statue that is Agard proved no help whatsoever to our chances, what's the point of asking him to compete for lofted balls with a group of defenders around him and no one to offer any outlet or help?

Gillingham just knew that they could sit back and protect their lead with no threat from our attacking play because it just petered out to nothingness each time, all the build up and passing in your own half and in the middle of the field counts for nothing when your final goal efforts none threatening.

Could he produce a better effort with better players? we had a very reduced side out there today and in all honestly its performed fractionally better than when we were at full strength with this process. i'm just not convinced that his tactics can produce football of the quality to keep us in this league never mind promotion regardless of who he fetches in, every player he's brought in has had to be transformed into a scared and risk averse poor imitation of themselves.

We are going backwards at an alarming rate and it looks like no one wants to take control of the situation, money thrown at this management team will be wasted on weak, small ineffective players, with no pace, strength, determination and desire, just a nothing team playing a nothing style with no vision or idea.

We are royally fuc**d if no one steps in and says enough of this diatribe, we need a reset and a manager who fits the description, nothing les will suffice unless we look forward to none league next season.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #48 on April 07, 2023, 05:49:12 pm by Chris Black come back »
I read that today's game is our 4000th league game. That's quite something.
Would of thought it was more if copps alone hit 500

Even at 46 games a season (it has only relatively recently been so high) that’s 86 seasons. We were in and out of the league for decades after formation. Only in 20s I think did we stay in regularly.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #49 on April 07, 2023, 07:29:00 pm by selby »
  How did Faulkner and Goodman play? genuine question I have seen and heard nothing due to an hospital appointment.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #50 on April 07, 2023, 07:51:34 pm by drfchound »
I read that today's game is our 4000th league game. That's quite something.
Would of thought it was more if copps alone hit 500

Well, Copps was playing for us for 16 years so if you multiply that out and someone in turn made 500 appearances every successive 16 years it would go back 128 years.
(4000 games divided by 500 games equals 16)
Bearing in mind we were out of the FL for some seasons too and it does stack up.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #51 on April 07, 2023, 08:02:55 pm by In the box »
Was there a post match interview with Schofield?

danumdon

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #52 on April 07, 2023, 08:08:00 pm by danumdon »
The defence did not have a great deal to do to be honest, Hawkins managed to draw them all towards him leaving Nichols alone at the back stick to fire home, after this they basically went through the motions and managed to keep them under control in that they did not have too much goal threat after the goal,  i thought Seaman and Moly could of pushed up more and helped out further forward as Goodman was getting kicked all over the field whenever the ball was close, unfortunately no one else was anywhere near him so if he had been able to hold up any play he would of had little opportunity to bring anyone else into the game, we went for the more dependable solidity? of Westbrooke instead of Hurst and it didn't really work, Barlow worked hard and had some good touches but again had very little support and was closed out mostly by there no nonsense defence.

They sat off mostly in the second half and allowed us plenty of the ball, we did our usual and played our shapes in midfield but never really managed to penetrate them or display any sort of danger to their back line.

Very frustrating game to watch because you just knew we were toothless in attack as they did and DS did not really make any effort to change proceedings, sticking with his same "process" even when Agard Ravenhill and Brown came on, in fact if anything we became even less effective if that was possible.

Im still to see any evidence that DS can make effective use of increased funding, his play is so turgid and slow that even teams in the bottom third have very little difficulty in dealing with our toothless formation.

He's transformed all the team into scared, risk averse percentage play merchants with no license for any individual flair or creativity allowed to manifest itself, the players are confused and scared to alter from the set plan, its almost dictatorship like in its homage.

Difficult times, i just cannot see us getting another point this season, TB needs to weld the axe now before we ruin any chance of having some sort of momentum going into next season, the hard decisions need to be made for the overall good of the club.

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #53 on April 07, 2023, 08:12:21 pm by In the box »
It was another hard to watch . Your right about trying get some sort of momentum but it’s going to hard with so many players missing .

danumdon

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #54 on April 07, 2023, 08:19:19 pm by danumdon »
It was another hard to watch . Your right about trying get some sort of momentum but it’s going to hard with so many players missing .

I honestly don't think we missed any of the missing players, barr Maxwell the rest for me are no better than what was put out today, i just don't buy into this "lets use T Rowe as the deep lying midfielder, why? if he's got anything left in his legs he should of been playing in the Westbrooke role pushing on and trying to provide some support for Goodman, what do they teach these coaches these days?

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #55 on April 07, 2023, 08:44:01 pm by Dutch Uncle »
I read that today's game is our 4000th league game. That's quite something.
Would of thought it was more if copps alone hit 500

Even at 46 games a season (it has only relatively recently been so high) that’s 86 seasons. We were in and out of the league for decades after formation. Only in 20s I think did we stay in regularly.

This is our 91st season in the Football League,

3 seasons in 4 years in the 1900s;
16 seasons from 1923-24 to start of WW2;
52 seasons from after WW2 to 1997-98;
another 20 since returning to the league in 2003-04

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #56 on April 07, 2023, 08:45:18 pm by Campsall rover »
We are improving 9 shots
3 on target

Anyone blaming this sh.tb show on injuries is living in cloud cuckoo land

Where did Rowe play today anyone?
BBC formation made no sense as usual

Tommy played in midfield, with Barlow and Westbrook playing in more advanced positions, supposedly supporting young Goodman. Luke Molyneux played at LWB and did OK to be fair. But it will come as no surprise to you to hear that at no point during the game, despite being a goal down, did he change formation or try anything 'a bit different'.
Well there is a surprise H G    He also Brings on Kyle Hurst after 91 mins, brilliant.

Why the obsession with 3 centre backs and wing backs i just don’t get.
It wouldn’t be so bad if the wing backs got up in the opposition last third & get crosses in but they they don’t.
So we are basically playing with a back 5

If he is still Head Coach in May then i despair.  We are on the slippery road to the unthinkable.


« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 09:02:46 pm by Campsall rover »

moses

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #57 on April 07, 2023, 08:46:38 pm by moses »
 Didn’t see the game today. Was there less passing it around the back today?

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #58 on April 07, 2023, 08:57:50 pm by Campsall rover »
This has been a classical example of where our "process"driven formation has hit the buffers.

Gillingham are a very basic 4th tier team, big strong and committed with very little skill and enterprise. They get a goal arguably against the run of play at the time after our very slow start due to their own "process" outsmarting ours, big striker takes the attention of the defence and their other striker ghosts in on the back post, unmarked and scores, that we had to rely on the defensive attributes of Moly at left wingback did not help the situation.

And that was the extent of their ambition for the rest of the game, they just knew they could allow us to have the ball in front of them and we could still be playing now without really troubling their keeper. We just play negative and pointless triangles in midfield, usually ending up with the ball finding its way back to Mitchell, where's the creativity, go forward and gut busting surges forward to relieve our beleaguered and massively out gunned lone forward, Goodman tried his best but was marked by three big defenders who took turns to kick lumps out of him throughout the match without any protection from poor officials. That he finally succumbed to the effort and was replaced by the statue that is Agard proved no help whatsoever to our chances, what's the point of asking him to compete for lofted balls with a group of defenders around him and no one to offer any outlet or help?

Gillingham just knew that they could sit back and protect their lead with no threat from our attacking play because it just petered out to nothingness each time, all the build up and passing in your own half and in the middle of the field counts for nothing when your final goal efforts none threatening.

Could he produce a better effort with better players? we had a very reduced side out there today and in all honestly its performed fractionally better than when we were at full strength with this process. i'm just not convinced that his tactics can produce football of the quality to keep us in this league never mind promotion regardless of who he fetches in, every player he's brought in has had to be transformed into a scared and risk averse poor imitation of themselves.

We are going backwards at an alarming rate and it looks like no one wants to take control of the situation, money thrown at this management team will be wasted on weak, small ineffective players, with no pace, strength, determination and desire, just a nothing team playing a nothing style with no vision or idea.

We are royally fuc**d if no one steps in and says enough of this diatribe, we need a reset and a manager who fits the description, nothing les will suffice unless we look forward to none league next season.
100%  great post. Exactly as I see it.
Just can’t understand that Copps can’t see it or doesn’t want to see it.
TB will be throwing his money down a dirty great big hole if DS is allowed to carry on his “process “ next season.
I don’t see us winning another game this season.  The very best we will do is 3 draws and 3 defeats.
In all possibility we could lose all 6 remaining games.
Does Copps then see the light and say enough is enough or does he turn a blind eye and allow this disintegration to continue.
At what point does the red light start flashing? 

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Gillingham game
« Reply #59 on April 07, 2023, 09:02:09 pm by StocksArmy »
I watched the first half and went to the pub. I didnt see the 2nd half but that was not a performance. I dont care whether Close had a decent shot saved or we had one cleared off the line. I dont care we have a lot of injuries either. Them players are an embarrassment to the shirt. As for the manager... i turned his interview off after 30 seconds. Positive performance. Unfortunate not to get anything out of it? What did i miss in that 2nd half?? We need him gone
 instantly.

 

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