Not my Labour party

[belton rover]

Would what be allowed?

[SydneyRover]

Would what be allowed?

read my replies to tyke

[belton rover]

I have. You’ve accused him of racially abusing you. That doesn’t mean he has.

[SydneyRover]

And how would you know?

[belton rover]

Racial abuse is a very serious issue.
I have read nothing to suggest that you have been racially abused.

[SydneyRover]

Racial abuse is a very serious issue.
I have read nothing to suggest that you have been racially abused.

So telling someone their voice doesn't count v=because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?

[ncRover]

Sydney take a breather your heads gone

[SydneyRover]

Sydney take a breather your heads gone

nc unless you have something to contribute ...............

[ncRover]

Just trying to help

[SydneyRover]

Just trying to help

you have the wrong end of the telescope

[ncRover]

Lovely talking to you as always Syd

[SydneyRover]

Lovely talking to you as always Syd

you not talking though are you, you must think you're being smart I guess

[belton rover]

Racial abuse is a very serious issue.
I have read nothing to suggest that you have been racially abused.

So telling someone their voice doesn't count v=because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?

This is not about ‘someone’. It really is quite ugly of you to say you are just another victim of racial abuse when there are so many true victims of actual racism.

Shame on you for trivialising it.

[SydneyRover]

Racial abuse is a very serious issue.
I have read nothing to suggest that you have been racially abused.

So telling someone their voice doesn't count v=because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?

This is not about ‘someone’. It really is quite ugly of you to say you are just another victim of racial abuse when there are so many true victims of actual racism.

Shame on you for trivialising it.

You didn't answer my question belton

[ncRover]

In accusing Tyke of being racist you are cheapening the term. I thought you’d know better, hence why I was telling you to stop being irrational and take a breather for the sake of your own mental well-being.

[belton rover]

I don’t understand your question.

[SydneyRover]

In accusing Tyke of being racist you are cheapening the term. I thought you’d know better, hence why I was telling you to stop being irrational and take a breather for the sake of your own mental well-being.

can you answer the question nc?

[SydneyRover]

I don’t understand your question.

''So telling someone their voice doesn't count because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?''

this can't be that difficult belton

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's telling that this topic is now on four pages.

When Braverman made a far more disgusting and factually wrong statement last week (that paedophile gangs are "almost all British-Pakistani", and that they weren't prosecuted because Labour councils are too woke) it didn't cause an eyelid to flutter.

I'm very, very unhappy about Labour going down this road and I hope the robust discussion going on in the party will mean we don't do this in future. But the Tories have been burning rubber on this road for years, to the point that it is normalised and not even commented on by their supporters.

[ncRover]

What has your race got to do with living in Australia?

[SydneyRover]

What has your race got to do with living in Australia?

the thing is nc telling anyone their voice doesn't count because of where they live .............. you tell me what it is, in your own words.

[belton rover]

I don’t understand your question.

''So telling someone their voice doesn't count because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?''

this can't be that difficult belton

Thanks for making it a little clearer.

1. Not necessarily
2. Both - depending on the circumstances
3. I think racial abuse towards an individual must also be personal abuse.

[SydneyRover]

I don’t understand your question.

''So telling someone their voice doesn't count because of where they live or have lived is not racial abuse? does it depend on their colour or race? or is it just plain old personal abuse?''

this can't be that difficult belton

Thanks for making it a little clearer.

1. Not necessarily
2. Both - depending on the circumstances
3. I think racial abuse towards an individual must also be personal abuse.

So you've read on here many times, if you haven't you're not paying attention, how would you describe it?

[ncRover]

What has your race got to do with living in Australia?

the thing is nc telling anyone their voice doesn't count because of where they live .............. you tell me what it is, in your own words.

Why does it have to be anything? It’s definitely not racist as you are likely both of the same ethnicity and both British.

Have you got any friends over there of aboriginal heritage?

Maybe you could go ask them about the racism that their ancestors suffered. Once they’re done you can tell them how you (likely a white British man) are a victim of racism from another white British man during a disagreement on an Internet forum.

[SydneyRover]

What has your race got to do with living in Australia?

the thing is nc telling anyone their voice doesn't count because of where they live .............. you tell me what it is, in your own words.

Why does it have to be anything? It’s definitely not racist as you are likely both of the same ethnicity and both British.

Have you got any friends over there of aboriginal heritage?

Maybe you could go ask them about the racism that their ancestors suffered. Once they’re done you can tell them how you (likely a white British man) are a victim of racism from another white British man during a disagreement on an Internet forum.

and if you are wrong?

that's the problem on the forum you don't know to whom you are speaking, in most cases I should think and it's why assumptions should be left off the keyboard until you know.

[drfchound]

What has your race got to do with living in Australia?

the thing is nc telling anyone their voice doesn't count because of where they live .............. you tell me what it is, in your own words.

Why does it have to be anything? It’s definitely not racist as you are likely both of the same ethnicity and both British.

Have you got any friends over there of aboriginal heritage?

Maybe you could go ask them about the racism that their ancestors suffered. Once they’re done you can tell them how you (likely a white British man) are a victim of racism from another white British man during a disagreement on an Internet forum.

and if you are wrong?

Is he wrong though?

[belton rover]

I don’t, nor should I have a say in what happens in Australia, or any other country.

Granted, your position is slightly different, but if someone believes your views don’t, or shouldn’t hold as much weight (if any) because you live (or imply you live) in another country, that IS NOT racial abuse.

[SydneyRover]

I don’t, nor should I have a say in what happens in Australia, or any other country.

Granted, your position is slightly different, but if someone believes your views don’t, or shouldn’t hold as much weight (if any) because you live (or imply you live) in another country, that IS NOT racial abuse.

does the highlighted bit depend on when I left, whether I went by a third country, whether I started in another country before coming to the uk? or stupidly whether I have aboriginal friends"

[belton rover]

Highlighted bit means I wasn’t born in Australia. so your situation is slightly different..

[SydneyRover]

Highlighted bit means I wasn’t born in Australia. so your situation is slightly different..

And again how do you know?