Fans

[drfchound]

I wasn’t at the game and I’m not condoning whatever bad behaviour went off.

All I will say is that it should not deflect attention away from what is going on at the Club right now. We are in a truly shocking state and it appears to be getting worse by the day. I can very much understand the level of frustration felt by the majority of supporters.

Please can someone assure, at least those of us still left that are bothered, that something major is going to be done to stop the free-fall. And I don’t mean tinkering, it’s going to take some monumental changes to sort this out and get us back on the upward curve.

The above is also my viewpoint.
As far as I am aware all the tickets sold for the Harrogate game were sold to season ticket holders.

[mpc123]

It is bad behaviour and nobody should be proud of it, but it comes from pure frustration.

Nobody is seeing any change, that is the frustration, the club are creating this, they have held onto him far far far too long

The first step is there, now we have investment.

The next step is to get people in who can do something with it.

The frustration is nothing will change with this guy he has shown with a decent set of players and a reduced selection.

The frustration is turning to anger as the process with this guy and the boards inability and timescale to react  is far to long.

[dickos1]

I wasn’t at the game and I’m not condoning whatever bad behaviour went off.

All I will say is that it should not deflect attention away from what is going on at the Club right now. We are in a truly shocking state and it appears to be getting worse by the day. I can very much understand the level of frustration felt by the majority of supporters.

Please can someone assure, at least those of us still left that are bothered, that something major is going to be done to stop the free-fall. And I don’t mean tinkering, it’s going to take some monumental changes to sort this out and get us back on the upward curve.

The above is also my viewpoint.
As far as I am aware all the tickets sold for the Harrogate game were sold to season ticket holders.

There were plenty of tickets sold via social media,

[oggycompton]

Well to suggest the club don’t listen to fans is stupid.
The VSC through SM talk very regularly.
The supporters club through, Len, Paul & Melanie are always chatting to Shaun & Gavin.
Then there’s the Shadow Board which I’m proud to be part of. We have meetings with GB & SL & constantly talk to these gents just about every other day.
These people who in the main are elected & are volunteers. If we reacted to every call to get rid of a manager, sign a player or extend a contract, then I’d never be off the phone.
If anyone thinks that they can make the club listen “ more” or react quicker, then come & join us on the respective boards.
By yelling & screaming “ abuse” won’t win you any favours.
EVERYONE is against the football we are watching & the club totally gets that.
I can’t wait to see you all apply for the Shadow Board when it’s announced shortly.

I respect and applaud the time and effort of all the volunteers supporting the club, and advocating for fans. But at the moment either a. you're advocating for Schofield to stay, or b. you're being ignored. We're paying customers of a business providing a single product, which at the moment is unacceptably poor - using any measure it's diabolically bad. The only solution shouldn't be to join the shadow board or similar, the voice of the majority should be heard, and there has to be a way to tell the club directly that this manager is destroying our club and needs to be gone. I agree that there is no justification for abuse, but the club keep wheeling him out in front on fans the majority of whom want him gone - what do they think is going to keep happening?

It's B, it has been for years

[Draytonian III]

I wasn’t at the game and I’m not condoning whatever bad behaviour went off.

All I will say is that it should not deflect attention away from what is going on at the Club right now. We are in a truly shocking state and it appears to be getting worse by the day. I can very much understand the level of frustration felt by the majority of supporters.

Please can someone assure, at least those of us still left that are bothered, that something major is going to be done to stop the free-fall. And I don’t mean tinkering, it’s going to take some monumental changes to sort this out and get us back on the upward curve.

The above is also my viewpoint.
As far as I am aware all the tickets sold for the Harrogate game were sold to season ticket holders.

There were plenty of tickets sold via social media,

I thought that was against F A rules

[dickos1]

I wasn’t at the game and I’m not condoning whatever bad behaviour went off.

All I will say is that it should not deflect attention away from what is going on at the Club right now. We are in a truly shocking state and it appears to be getting worse by the day. I can very much understand the level of frustration felt by the majority of supporters.

Please can someone assure, at least those of us still left that are bothered, that something major is going to be done to stop the free-fall. And I don’t mean tinkering, it’s going to take some monumental changes to sort this out and get us back on the upward curve.

The above is also my viewpoint.
As far as I am aware all the tickets sold for the Harrogate game were sold to season ticket holders.

There were plenty of tickets sold via social media,

I thought that was against F A rules

May well be, but impossible to police

[drfchound]

I wasn’t at the game and I’m not condoning whatever bad behaviour went off.

All I will say is that it should not deflect attention away from what is going on at the Club right now. We are in a truly shocking state and it appears to be getting worse by the day. I can very much understand the level of frustration felt by the majority of supporters.

Please can someone assure, at least those of us still left that are bothered, that something major is going to be done to stop the free-fall. And I don’t mean tinkering, it’s going to take some monumental changes to sort this out and get us back on the upward curve.

The above is also my viewpoint.
As far as I am aware all the tickets sold for the Harrogate game were sold to season ticket holders.

There were plenty of tickets sold via social media,

If that were s the case I wonder whether the people who sold them on social media can be tracked down and banned from buying away tickets in the future.

[Upton Rover]

A lot of our fans today were an absolute disgrace.
I’ve never been so disappointed at an away  game in hundreds of games since 1962.
Not just the negativity and constant foul and abusive language and moronic chants but the lack of support for the team as well.
There was one guy there with his son who was about seven. He swore constantly whist explaining to his son where DS was going wrong.
There’s no wonder the young players are scared to death of making a mistake a lot of the time.
Not a great advert for Doncaster.

If you we’re offended, then ask him not to sware

[Upton Rover]

They are total d!ckheads. Leeds Utd have around 40,000 of them, Only one way to shut them up

Mr right

[Upton Rover]

It was quite telling yesterday that after both Rovers goals the players made no attempt to celebrate near our fans. Barlow ran to the subs warming up and Molyneux ran straight to the photographer. Faulkner and Seaman the most engaged with the fans but the remainder all pretty much ignored us.

Can’t blame them though

Your either the biggest windup person on here, or just someone who’s got no footballing knowledge at all ,

[Upton Rover]

Well I think you lads deserve better than you've had served up this season and last to be fair .

It's a culmination of the last two season's which probably contributed to yesterday's events .

Fans can be brutal but given what you've endured of late I find it perfectly understandable to be honest .

The fans care passionately about Rovers , you would have to care passionately about Rovers to even go to Harrogate yesterday given it was a dead game in an awful season  and they are frustrated , rightly so .

How on earth are fans meant to show their frustration ?

Of course it's not going to be pleasant , they are extremely pyssed off .

That show of frustration yesterday may well be the trigger that rids you of DS and points to a brighter future next season .

If DS is upset then tough , if he hasn't worked out the reality of football failure and how fans frustration can boil over maybe he's in the wrong job .

Plenty of the folk that attend games done care passionately about the club, they’re just there for the booze and the aggro.
Every manager we’ve had over the last 3 years have got similar abuse, they’re just idiots

that is absolutely nonsense

Plenty of people there yesterday who don’t care about the club, not even watching the game, singing for harrogate to win, booing before we’d even kicked off.

Well I'd be thankful they are angry and frustrated if I was you because it means they still care .

It's to be hoped what comes after anger doesn't materialise .

It's called apathy and that's way worse than anger .

You can't normalise that level of abuse tyke, no matter what results are like.

In all the years of supporting this club I have never heard anything even approaching that level. No wonder the players couldn't perform as I'm convinced they were struggling with it as well.

There's a major movement afoot to ban 'tragedy chanting', i.e. Hillsborough, Munich air crash, etc and this, in my mind , falls into the same category.

I don't really have to normalise something that is in essence normal .

A club has a very disappointing couple of seasons of major under-achievment including a relegation to the lowest tier .

The football on display isn't working and you are losing games left , right and centre .

The manger doesn't seem capable of a change in tactics or formation .

Things have come to a head with the manager getting dogs abuse .

There really isn't anything in the slightest that's unusual about that other than I'm personally surprised it's taken this long .

To put it in the same box as Tragedy Chanting is pretty poor with all due respect to yourself .

It's an emotional game and that emotion can go two ways and right now it's going in a direction you clearly don't like .

Tell you what SM , how's about the critics stay away and starve the club of finance , would that be a better option for you ?

These fans pay their money and they are entitled to vent their anger , I draw the line at having a go at DS's family or his kids and stuff like that but if they are calling him out on his managerial record , his teams performance and so forth in no uncertain terms then that's reasonable .

As I say the next stage is apathy and staying away altogether .

Be thankful they care enough to still be angry .

I often wonder why those fans who shout abuse are always considered to be the loyal fans, the hard core. Aren't people like me hard core too, and loyal?

Be thankful they care enough to be angry? That's a nonsense too, assuming that only the angry ones care enough.

I've been involved in more football campaigns than I care to mention, but I can guarantee that you never make progress if this is how you rely on getting your point across. there are lines you don't cross, and for me those lines were crossed on Saturday. And I wasn't the only one, the people staying away in future will be people like me, those who care enough to be upset by the vilification of the staff at DRFC.

That's not support, not in the slightest.

SM true loyal fans have endured poor performances on the field, and turmoil behind the scenes for the past 2 seasons now, the loyal fans who pay good money to watch this shower of offal , they are trying to get this stubborn board to do something, and they are aware of the fans unrest, and don’t want to do sweet fa about it.
We want this Head coach sacking, and the return of a experienced manager, no head coach shit, just a normal football manager.
I’ve said this many times before that a fan pays very good money to watch their favourite football team, not only in Season tickets/match day tickets, it’s the travelling costs, food and drink costs, time away from possible work and time spent away from families, so everyone as a right to a protest in whatever they think fit, as long as it’s peaceful, there’s to many people on here who want to chastise fellow fans. Swearing at a game has been around for years and still will be for years to come, SM I guess that you have some clout with the club, and you should be getting the points across, that the majority of the fans are so disappointed with many aspects that they are drifting away in quite large numbers. Just a few months ago these  were the odd unhappy fan, however now we read alarming comments coming from fans who have years behind the supporting of the club, to now not caring about going to the next game and many about not renewing season tickets next season. I won’t spend another penny within the club till he’s gone, people may think wow so what, I also know that several younger season ticket holders that I introduced to the club some 15 years ago, have also drifted away, burnt their current season tickets and have no interest to renew. Very worrying times.

[drfchound]

It was quite telling yesterday that after both Rovers goals the players made no attempt to celebrate near our fans. Barlow ran to the subs warming up and Molyneux ran straight to the photographer. Faulkner and Seaman the most engaged with the fans but the remainder all pretty much ignored us.

Can’t blame them though

Your either the biggest windup person on here, or just someone who’s got no footballing knowledge at all ,

He has plenty of football knowledge.

[idler]

A lot of our fans today were an absolute disgrace.
I’ve never been so disappointed at an away  game in hundreds of games since 1962.
Not just the negativity and constant foul and abusive language and moronic chants but the lack of support for the team as well.
There was one guy there with his son who was about seven. He swore constantly whist explaining to his son where DS was going wrong.
There’s no wonder the young players are scared to death of making a mistake a lot of the time.
Not a great advert for Doncaster.

If you we’re offended, then ask him not to sware

Upton, over the years I have had a few goes at fans . Usually ours  but also Leeds fans among others.  The normal outcome is I get wound up but nothing changes.
At 74 I’ve given up now. I go to try to watch a football match.not argue. I do find it bemusing that supporters would rather chant how crap the opposition must be when we are winning 1-0 and then 2-0 and wonder why our players are timid and frightened on and off the ball.

[Chris the Rover]

I can’t believe some of the comments on here from so called supporters. For a while now I’ve been coming to the conclusion that a sizeable number of our fans are morons. I stopped going to away games 5 years ago because of this. Now I read a topic on the forum that virtually supports mob rule. What half decent manager or player would want to come to a club like this? Who in their right mind would invest their hard earned cash in taking over the club? The level of toxicity on here is unbelievable.

[Upton Rover]

A lot of our fans today were an absolute disgrace.
I’ve never been so disappointed at an away  game in hundreds of games since 1962.
Not just the negativity and constant foul and abusive language and moronic chants but the lack of support for the team as well.
There was one guy there with his son who was about seven. He swore constantly whist explaining to his son where DS was going wrong.
There’s no wonder the young players are scared to death of making a mistake a lot of the time.
Not a great advert for Doncaster.

If you we’re offended, then ask him not to sware

Upton, over the years I have had a few goes at fans . Usually ours  but also Leeds fans among others.  The normal outcome is I get wound up but nothing changes.
At 74 I’ve given up now. I go to try to watch a football match.not argue. I do find it bemusing that supporters would rather chant how crap the opposition must be when we are winning 1-0 and then 2-0 and wonder why our players are timid and frightened on and off the ball.

I think the issue with our fans is frustration, I applaud you for going to the games and hope you will still keep going, I admire that and yes it can be annoying to hear what some fans shout, maybe the crowds will be sparse over the coming months, I for one won’t be going till DS as departed

[Campsall rover]

I can’t believe some of the comments on here from so called supporters. For a while now I’ve been coming to the conclusion that a sizeable number of our fans are morons. I stopped going to away games 5 years ago because of this. Now I read a topic on the forum that virtually supports mob rule. What half decent manager or player would want to come to a club like this? Who in their right mind would invest their hard earned cash in taking over the club? The level of toxicity on here is unbelievable.

It’s not just the Neanderthal’s that are not happy Chris.
There are Hundreds if not into the thousands of our die hard fans that seriously pi..ed off inc myself.
Every club has morons. We have no more than other clubs.

It is the diet of negative boring football that has been served up that people are spending their hard earned income to watch that will not be tolerated any more.

I will never condone violent or abusive behaviour but even I have shouted for DS to be sacked during several games.
I have never ever done that with any previous Manager or Coach.
I am 68 yrs old next month and i am now resorting this kind of behaviour.
That’s how bad it is.
I consider myself to be a sensible, level headed, educated person but I am extremely angry that we are seemingly sticking with a Coach who is driving our supporter base into their armchairs.
Supporters we may never get back again and our younger generations who will just tag along to a Premier league Club. 
They are the future and we could lose them for good.

[BillyStubbsTears]

A lot of our fans today were an absolute disgrace.
I’ve never been so disappointed at an away  game in hundreds of games since 1962.
Not just the negativity and constant foul and abusive language and moronic chants but the lack of support for the team as well.
There was one guy there with his son who was about seven. He swore constantly whist explaining to his son where DS was going wrong.
There’s no wonder the young players are scared to death of making a mistake a lot of the time.
Not a great advert for Doncaster.

If you we’re offended, then ask him not to sware

Upton, over the years I have had a few goes at fans . Usually ours  but also Leeds fans among others.  The normal outcome is I get wound up but nothing changes.
At 74 I’ve given up now. I go to try to watch a football match.not argue. I do find it bemusing that supporters would rather chant how crap the opposition must be when we are winning 1-0 and then 2-0 and wonder why our players are timid and frightened on and off the ball.

I think the issue with our fans is frustration, I applaud you for going to the games and hope you will still keep going, I admire that and yes it can be annoying to hear what some fans shout, maybe the crowds will be sparse over the coming months, I for one won’t be going till DS as departed

Someone I knew for a long time, a lifelong Rovers supporter told me and a group of friends in 2007, "I'm not coming again while that useless Kitson is in charge." The "useless Kitson" in question, of course, being O'Driscoll.

He stuck to his word.

Missed out on Wembley and several years in the Championship. Never came back again.

I will never understand people who's ego is so fragile that they have to pretend it is rock solid.

If Schofield does end up getting things right, why on earth would you not come and support his team?

[Campsall rover]

A lot of our fans today were an absolute disgrace.
I’ve never been so disappointed at an away  game in hundreds of games since 1962.
Not just the negativity and constant foul and abusive language and moronic chants but the lack of support for the team as well.
There was one guy there with his son who was about seven. He swore constantly whist explaining to his son where DS was going wrong.
There’s no wonder the young players are scared to death of making a mistake a lot of the time.
Not a great advert for Doncaster.

If you we’re offended, then ask him not to sware

Upton, over the years I have had a few goes at fans . Usually ours  but also Leeds fans among others.  The normal outcome is I get wound up but nothing changes.
At 74 I’ve given up now. I go to try to watch a football match.not argue. I do find it bemusing that supporters would rather chant how crap the opposition must be when we are winning 1-0 and then 2-0 and wonder why our players are timid and frightened on and off the ball.

I think the issue with our fans is frustration, I applaud you for going to the games and hope you will still keep going, I admire that and yes it can be annoying to hear what some fans shout, maybe the crowds will be sparse over the coming months, I for one won’t be going till DS as departed

Someone I knew for a long time, a lifelong Rovers supporter told me and a group of friends in 2007, "I'm not coming again while that useless Kitson is in charge." The "useless Kitson" in question, of course, being O'Driscoll.

He stuck to his word.

Missed out on Wembley and several years in the Championship. Never came back again.

I will never understand people who's ego is so fragile that they have to pretend it is rock solid.

If Schofield does end up getting things right, why on earth would you not come and support his team?

On what evidence do you think DS might get it right?  You keep avoiding answering that question BST.

SoD had a track record of success at Bournemouth.  Trying to justify that DS could achieve what SoD achieved based on the contrast of their CV’s is just a little crazy I think.

SoD started slowly at Rovers but there was a continuous improvement seen over the 2006/7 season.
Yes our league form dropped off after we qualified for the JPT Final

Under DS we have seen a gradual disintegration of form. The Football quality  has also got worse not better.

I rest my case.
I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

[Sammy Chung was King]

It would be good if fans see behaviour that isn’t right, then report it. We don’t need fans that bad that we have to listen to people shouting things about the managers relatives.

 There needs to be a standard of behaviour. We are there as supporters to watch the football, people coming out with these things aren’t even human beings.

[VivaRovers]

I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

[Campsall rover]

I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

Ok fair enough.

If that’s credible?  May save some money short term but what will it cost longer term?
imo it is a massive risk keeping him as he will be sacked in November anyway if not before because we are languishing in the lower reaches of League 2

If I am wrong and we are in the top echelons of the league I will hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong.
I desperately hope I am wrong but there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest after the last 6 months that I will be.

[normal rules]

I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

Fair points.
RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this.

[ravenrover]

Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.

[drfchound]

Not just “some fans” Raven.
I would think that this forum is made up of mostly middle aged to older supporters and 91% of those who responded to a poll think he should go.
If the club are sticking their fingers up to such an overwhelming number then they are certainly not willing to engage and probably don’t care what supporters think.

[oggycompton]

Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.

They will need to finance it even more next year. I bet season ticket sales are horrendous

[normal rules]

Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.

Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.

[sedwardsdrfc]

If the owners did think like that it would explain why were in a mess. Horrible attitude. Maybe a statement should be sent to them about insulting their fans.

I don’t believe they’ll think that way but I might be naive

[Cramby10]

Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.

after their series of utterly horrendous decisions over the last couple of years they’d be very brave to stick two fingers up at us.

[roversdude]

I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

Fair points.
RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this.

You could look at it that he inherited a very good team

[normal rules]

I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

Fair points.
RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this.

You could look at it that he inherited a very good team

They looked very average at their place, either that or rovers were just better. ESP in the first half where rovers were easily on top.