No one else like me then?

[dickos1]

It seems there are plenty of other folk who are of the same opinion as me,
Maybe the ones who want him gone are much more vocal about it but it does seem on this thread all the ones who strongly want him gone are the same names that post about it all day everyday, but the ones wanting to give him a go are people who don’t post all the time about it.

91.6% says your in a massive minority.

That pole is not Twitter, Face Book, but this DRFC Viking forum.
Ave age will probably be over 50 ( I have no facts on that but think it will be well over 50 ) so long term
die hard supporters in the case of quite a serious number i would think.

Of course it’s a minority, I didn’t suggest otherwise! Was just pointing out there are others who are willing to give him the summer to build his squad

Have you been watching the matches this season dickos.
We have been served up a diet of total dross.
My 10 yr old Grandson has had enough.  He has decided Liverpool are his team now not Rovers.

When we had Dave Penney we played fast exciting attacking football, win lose or draw.
Duff did the same at Cheltenham
I could name dozens of rookie managers who did the same.

DS has served us up with a diet of boring insipid dross for 6 months
 
Don’t insult our intelligence. 91% of our fans are not idiots. 

You’re changing the point, I was only responding to the point people were making about him not having any experience.

It was more of a reply to another of your posts rather than this one.
You said plenty of coaches have to start somewhere. Yes they do but many of them play attacking football.
Most of them don’t bore the pants off their fans with total dross on the field.

If you can defend what we have seen in the last 6 months then good on you but thousands of others are not going to put up with watching this rubbish any longer.

I don’t think either of us know what type of football they played in their first 6 months as a manager.

[dickos1]

Stevenage clearly continued to press in the second half, we just dealt with it a bit better. And yes Williams helped with that as he made quicker passes rather than dwelling on the ball like Nelson did

[Campsall rover]

CR.

Go back and have a look at the video of that match.

Then tell me if your snide little jibe about me never being wrong is warranted on this issue.

Billy they didn’t press us the same on the 2nd half. To do that they would have needed to all been on drugs.
I was there and I know what I saw.
Yes we were better but only because I thought Stevenage were running out of gas.

Shall we agree to disagree. I really don’t want to get into a long running spat with you.
We are all Rovers aren’t we. 
I think we should try to be civil with each other.

[Ronnie Dovers]

SOD and Schofield should never be mentioned in the same post (whoops, I’ve just done it).

SOD had history before joining us (JR told us all why he went all out to get him and ROK). What has DS done?

Don’t worry, BST, if the Club are daft enough to keep him in post and he (somehow) gets it right, then I’ll hold my hands up. Personally, there’s no way he should be here after the season’s sorry end.

Couldn’t agree more Alan. Any comparison between SOD and DS is preposterous.

SOD had proven L1/L2 pedigree but also a purist football streak that JR admired. Probably based on the 5-0 thrashing that his Bournemouth team handed to us in one L1 game.

The problem was that what was essentially a joint project between JR and SOD was slow to get off the ground and people started getting frustrated. SOD didn’t help himself by neglecting some players in favour of others but he instilled his footballing principles into the squad to such an extent that when it clicked we consistently performed to a very high standard irrespective of team changes.

I’m sure that DS has his own footballing principles- what manager doesn’t - but the lack of passion from the Board, the lack of a JR style vision and DS’s lack of experience means that we’re a million miles away from that time.

None of which changes the fact that, with the most expensively assembled squad in our history up to that point, O'Driscoll managed something very close to relegation form for almost a season.

It was an act of faith that he would be able to turn that round.

And yes, he did have something of a track record, though scarcely an unblemished one.

But more pertinent to my point is his very early career. He took over a side that had finished comfortably in mid table the previous year. He then won 1 of his first 13 games as a manager (not 15 as I'd said before - my mistake there). I wonder how many from this forum would have been screaming that he had no track record to point to, was clearly failing and should be get rid of?

So it wasn't an act of blind faith to stick with SoD after his underwhelming start here? Because as you go on to mention, he had a similarly poor start in his previous job as a manager, before getting his style in place and having a sustained spell of success playing with that style. So we stuck with him based on evidence. And we were proved right to do so.

You're contradicting yourself within the same comment to try to defend this comparison you've made. I'm not sure why this is the hill you've chosen to die on. You are just incorrect in this particular case.

It's blind faith to stick with DS now, because there is no previous evidence to back up our hope that he'll turn things around. I'm sceptical, but I do hope he can.

[BillyStubbsTears]

RD.

I realise that opinions are entrenched here, but please do me the courtesy of listening to my logic.

Yes, O'Driscoll DID turn round his first season at Bournemouth after a very poor first 1/3rd of a season.

The underperformance at the Rovers was on a different scale. It went on for very nearly 40 league games, during which time we had poured money into the squad.

What I'm saying is that, by December 2007, a very large number of fans had had it to the back teeth with O'Driscoll (although, strangely, not many will now put up their hands and admit that). And despite some selective memories in here, the football in that period was, for the majority of matches, abjectly lacking in entertainment. The moreso when you consider the wealth of talent he had available.

And there's a deeper point. Not the patience that WE showed in him. What if the Bournemouth board had given him the heave-ho after that dreadful first third of a season?

[drfchound]

More conjecture in that post bst.
You say that a large number of fans wanted SoD out but won’t admit that now.
Is that a fact and have you any evidence to back that up.

[NickDRFC]

More conjecture in that post bst.
You say that a large number of fans wanted SoD out but won’t admit that now.
Is that a fact and have you any evidence to back that up.

I don’t have any evidence other than my memory but he’s not wrong. O’Driscoll was extremely unpopular for quite a while early on in his tenure.

[pib]

I was one of the people calling for SOD to go in Autumn 2007. I definitely wasn’t alone.

I’m not sure that can serve as a blanket justification that we can never dispense with another underperforming manager though.

[Ronnie Dovers]

RD.

I realise that opinions are entrenched here, but please do me the courtesy of listening to my logic.

Yes, O'Driscoll DID turn round his first season at Bournemouth after a very poor first 1/3rd of a season.

The underperformance at the Rovers was on a different scale. It went on for very nearly 40 league games, during which time we had poured money into the squad.

What I'm saying is that, by December 2007, a very large number of fans had had it to the back teeth with O'Driscoll (although, strangely, not many will now put up their hands and admit that). And despite some selective memories in here, the football in that period was, for the majority of matches, abjectly lacking in entertainment. The moreso when you consider the wealth of talent he had available.

And there's a deeper point. Not the patience that WE showed in him. What if the Bournemouth board had given him the heave-ho after that dreadful first third of a season?

Sorry BST but the only point I'm taking issue with is your choice to compare SoD and DS. Based on the points that I've previously raised, and even those that you've raised, it's a completely flawed comparison. In fact, I don't think there's any comparison to be made at all. The rest of what you're saying is irrelevant to this particular point, in my opinion.

[BillyStubbsTears]

RD. So you're going to ignore the point about O'Driscoll's awful start to his managerial career? Fair enough. Your call.

By the way, O'Driscoll's "sustained spell of success" before joining us is rather mythologised.

He took over a club that had been in Tier 3 for a decade, oscillating from 8th to 20th place.

He got them relegated in his second season.

He won promotion via the playoffs after dropping out of the automatic slots with an insipid end to the season with a squad including Stock, Hayter, Carl Fletcher, Steve Fletcher, Marcus Browning (signed for a fee that we wouldn't match until we bought  Billy Sharp), Warren Feeney, Wade Elliott and a good few more solid Tier 3 pros.

After that, he had two top ten and one bottom ten finish in League 1 before joining us, leaving Bournemouth pretty much exactly where they were when he took over.

He had a reasonable record, but scarcely one of unbroken success against the odds. As I say, there was nothing to guarantee that he'd turn things round after the dreadful run in 2007. It required faith and patience from the Board.

[ChrisBx]

More conjecture in that post bst.
You say that a large number of fans wanted SoD out but won’t admit that now.
Is that a fact and have you any evidence to back that up.

Come on, you know that BST is correct. I seem to remember a 0-0 at home against Yeovil being particularly dull.

[drfchound]

More conjecture in that post bst.
You say that a large number of fans wanted SoD out but won’t admit that now.
Is that a fact and have you any evidence to back that up.

Come on, you know that BST is correct. I seem to remember a 0-0 at home against Yeovil being particularly dull.

With hindsight, perhaps he might have a point, depending of course what a high number is deemed to be.
I would think that even though we have smaller attendances now than when SoD was manager that there are more people wanting the manager gone now.
I don’t have any evidence to back that up though.

[sedwardsdrfc]

In fairness to the SOD argument I’m certain the calls for change are louder now than then. However had SOD come in after a couple of desperate years and started like he did maybe it would be a closer run thing.

[tommy toes]

I've posted before that I wanted SOD to go forth back to Bournemouth, and so did many others. We were playing boring turgid footy for too long in his early Rovers tenure.
Only when he got his style over to a group of players who could implement it, did we prosper.
The current situation with Schofield is remarkably similar, and despite you lot jumping up and down with apoplectic rage, it looks like he'll be allowed to have a go.
So button up and enjoy the ride.

[scawsby steve]

I've posted before that I wanted SOD to go forth back to Bournemouth, and so did many others. We were playing boring turgid footy for too long in his early Rovers tenure.
Only when he got his style over to a group of players who could implement it, did we prosper.
The current situation with Schofield is remarkably similar, and despite you lot jumping up and down with apoplectic rage, it looks like he'll be allowed to have a go.
So button up and enjoy the ride.

There'll be nobody left in the stadium to enjoy the ride.

[Ronnie Dovers]

RD. So you're going to ignore the point about O'Driscoll's awful start to his managerial career? Fair enough. Your call.

By the way, O'Driscoll's "sustained spell of success" before joining us is rather mythologised.

He took over a club that had been in Tier 3 for a decade, oscillating from 8th to 20th place.

He got them relegated in his second season.

He won promotion via the playoffs after dropping out of the automatic slots with an insipid end to the season with a squad including Stock, Hayter, Carl Fletcher, Steve Fletcher, Marcus Browning (signed for a fee that we wouldn't match until we bought  Billy Sharp), Warren Feeney, Wade Elliott and a good few more solid Tier 3 pros.

After that, he had two top ten and one bottom ten finish in League 1 before joining us, leaving Bournemouth pretty much exactly where they were when he took over.

He had a reasonable record, but scarcely one of unbroken success against the odds. As I say, there was nothing to guarantee that he'd turn things round after the dreadful run in 2007. It required faith and patience from the Board.

So DS's 9 games of almost total failure as a manager prior to joining us are comparable to SoD's several seasons of successfully (and admittedly slowly) implementing an attractive brand of football, which includes taking us apart in such a manner that our owner earmarked him as our future manager and then headhunted him at the earliest possible moment?

Ok then...

[i_ateallthepies]

"No one else like me then?"

Well, after four pages, go on then I'll stick my hand up CiM... I like you...

[drfchound]

"No one else like me then?"

Well, after four pages, go on then I'll stick my hand up CiM... I like you...

  '

[scawsby steve]

I knew CIM when he used to go in the South Stand. I believe he lives abroad now.

Yes, he is a likable guy.

[drfchound]

Yes, you are right on all three counts SS.