Labour U Turns Part 164

[Sprotyrover]

DD ''You sound more desperate every day. Are you ill?''

You're such a little baaaaaaby dd, just do it you don't need to advertise it to the juniors, you hand it out can't support your own comments ............

''I'm going to put you on ignore'' ner ner ner

It reminds of 'the Vicar' whom demanded to know how to resign from the forum, the reply from SM was 'log out and never log back on'

Oh how we wish you would do just that Syd!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Whatever happened to politicians who had the stature to become proper statesmen? i can't see any wherever you look.

We had one in Gordon Brown. He was ridiculed out of office.

Don't blame politicians. A country gets the politicians it deserves. Look back over some of the b*llocks written in here over the past decade to see why we don't deserve better politicians.

Gordon Brown sealed his own fate with the bigotgate fiasco, along with the pensions disaster and his boom and bust denials.

Don't you think that maybe the b*llocks talked about on here was very much in direct correlation to the very low grade of professional politician that people have had to endure, do you really think we deserved to have these charlatans, expense fiddlers and general grifters in charge ?

Very useful post. Thanks. If that's truly what you believe, you know the square root of f**k all about politics, and I can save myself the bother of replying to you in future.

[selby]

  That will teach you to not upset the political all knowing all seeing all dancing messiah DD. He knows everything about politics.
 He is a legend in his own fart don't you know. I bet your gutted to be on ignore.
  He has an excuse though there might be an election called today, although he might not know yet as he only watches the BBC news.

[danumdon]

What you consider mate is totally irrelevant.

If what you post on here is supposed to be the gold standard then i'll stick with knowing fu*k all about politics. It will hold as much relevance as your constant squawking and bleating.

But then you just can't stop yourself from replying, typical lefty bedwetter.

[roverstillidie91]

Keir Starmer has now said he is prioritizing the NHS over abolishing tuition fees.

But when asked if he will return to the pledge long term and says no......

Such a liar.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Not just that, they're considering raising them.  Amazing how all your grumbles can disappear when it becomes real isn't it?

[SydneyRover]

Not just that, they're considering raising them.  Amazing how all your grumbles can disappear when it becomes real isn't it?

It's been quite unreal for the previous 14+ years pud but it never stopped you from voting for them, aye?

[ravenrover]

Keir Starmer has now said he is prioritizing the NHS over abolishing tuition fees.

But when asked if he will return to the pledge long term and says no......

Such a liar.

He didn't say no on the Beeb interview

[normal rules]

Stabber now can’t commit to scrapping uni tuition fees. Which he backed when running to be labour leader. Or repealing the two child benefit cap.

[SydneyRover]

Stabber now can’t commit to scrapping uni tuition fees. Which he backed when running to be labour leader. Or repealing the two child benefit cap.

What was the best thing you got from the party you voted for last time around nr?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The summary of his changes is much bigger than I realised.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/keir-starmer-broken-promises-tuition-fees-nationalisation-u-turn/

[SydneyRover]

The summary of his changes is much bigger than I realised.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/keir-starmer-broken-promises-tuition-fees-nationalisation-u-turn/

When dealing with an ever worsening fiscal situation what would you suggest pud, offer something trusslike?

[drfchound]

The summary of his changes is much bigger than I realised.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/keir-starmer-broken-promises-tuition-fees-nationalisation-u-turn/

That is quite a big list isn’t it.

[roverstillidie91]

Keir Starmer has now said he is prioritizing the NHS over abolishing tuition fees.

But when asked if he will return to the pledge long term and says no......

Such a liar.

He didn't say no on the Beeb interview

On one of them he did it might not have been the BBC. They asked if it was something he'd consider when the economy picks back up and he said No.

[roverstillidie91]

The summary of his changes is much bigger than I realised.

https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/keir-starmer-broken-promises-tuition-fees-nationalisation-u-turn/

That is quite a big list isn’t it.

Not only that but the 10 pledges he used to campaign to be Labour leader as well.

These videos sum him up people on here may see him in a different light. I see nothing positive about him anywhere he is almost like a robot when he speaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv7sZoQkkns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVP6PlX_UUA

https://x.com/kennardmatt/status/1786679523334885703

[SydneyRover]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

[roverstillidie91]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Will Labour re-introduce the top rate of tax and stop the burden being on the poorest?

That may help.

[SydneyRover]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Will Labour re-introduce the top rate of tax and stop the burden being on the poorest?

That may help.

Why don't you have a look at labour's strategy/policies and use it as a base for discussion instead plucking wishes out of thin air.

[roverstillidie91]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Will Labour re-introduce the top rate of tax and stop the burden being on the poorest?

That may help.

Why don't you have a look at labour's strategy/policies and use it as a base for discussion instead plucking wishes out of thin air.

I have seen enough of Labour which suggests to me that nothing will change when they are in so I don't wish to check out their strategy or policies.

It is the redistribution of wealth from the poorest to the rich.

He will lie his way in and promise things and go back on them.

It is easy being in opposition just wait until he is PM and see how unpopular he will be.

[SydneyRover]

It's no good making up your own wish list as you're competing with around 65-70m others. If you wanted to change things, 5min to midnight is a bit late also you're on the wrong train, what is the party you intend to vote for promising 91?

[drfchound]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Will Labour re-introduce the top rate of tax and stop the burden being on the poorest?

That may help.

Why don't you have a look at labour's strategy/policies and use it as a base for discussion instead plucking wishes out of thin air.

I have seen enough of Labour which suggests to me that nothing will change when they are in so I don't wish to check out their strategy or policies.

It is the redistribution of wealth from the poorest to the rich.

He will lie his way in and promise things and go back on them.

It is easy being in opposition just wait until he is PM and see how unpopular he will be.

It has been suggested on this forum that it is ok for him to do that.

[drfchound]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Where has that been suggested Syd?
I don’t recall reading that accusation anywhere on here.

[BillyStubbsTears]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

It is amazing what some people will blame Labour for.

BB, for example, has spent years blaming Labour for blocking Brexit throughout 2017-2019, when the Tories and their DUP mates had a majority of seats in the House.

[Bentley Bullet]

If you mean Labour and many of its supporters didn't support Brexit and wanted it "Blocking" by means of a re-vote, then yes, you can carry on being amazed at what I blame Labour for.

[SydneyRover]

If you mean Labour and many of its supporters didn't support Brexit and wanted it "Blocking" by means of a re-vote, then yes, you can carry on being amazed at what I blame Labour for.

You're a moaner's moaner bb

[drfchound]

What would help solve the current situation is growth, growth and growth, is there any? It's hard to fathom that blame appears to falling on labour the opposition having yet to win office.

In football terms (to make it easier for some) it would be like fielding a team without a striker and we all know how that turns out.

Labour has set out a plan for growth and the current government wants or wanted to cut taxes.

Some wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

Man Utd started the cup final without a recognised striker.
How did it turn out ?

[albie]

Shazza has sprung a leak on Keith and Rachel's jolly wheeze on workers rights;
https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2024/may/unite-statement-on-further-changes-to-labour-s-new-deal-for-working-people

Perhaps the power of hard hitting Keith has finally burst through;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1388496730824613891/pu/vid/720x404/ZSHidTDO5bcdBuz7.mp4?tag=12

Funny that BST or Syd have not mentioned this, because if you are a trade unionist you would want to know!

[SydneyRover]

What will the party you vote for do for workers rights Albie?

[albie]

Don't assume folk will be voting for a party, Syd.
In the UK, we vote for an MP to represent voters in a constituency.

It depends on where you are, as well as your red lines on policy and trustworthyness.

You might have a good Labour MP, or you might have a Labour Friend of Israel!
You might have a good independent candidate.

Green Party have some principles it seems, and are better on workers rights across the board;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1714251185157246976/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/y4_WEazU6P7nqF9Z.mp4?tag=12

Unusual in these days of lying shapeshifters like Sunak and Keith.

In new ducking and diving news, Keith has now failed to say he will reverse the Tory voter ID requirements;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795040917868417024/pu/vid/avc1/858x720/b9CC4iUv3dilHPc7.mp4?tag=12

BST will be livid!

[SydneyRover]

I assume nothing in regards to those that fail to understand the harsh realities of getting into power against the monied classes that control the yellow press and the majority of the media full stop. Where the monies classes control business and the vast amounts of money they have under their control, etc.