Bravest people in the country?

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://twitter.com/DraatsiInk/status/1715451277054738941

Just astonishing. I didn't even want to get the milk in off the front step yesterday.

[Branton Red]

The RNLI do a tremendous job.

All volunteers as well.

They rely heavily on donations. So if you've got some spare change..........

[Colemans Left Hook]

https://twitter.com/DraatsiInk/status/1715451277054738941

Just astonishing. I didn't even want to get the milk in off the front step yesterday.

if that is a genuine statement you just made 
 as your "official trawler  !!" can I ask you how many times a week your milk is delivered ours is Tuesday 3 Thursday 3 & Saturday 4 that's 10

Mrs Coleman who has hated plastic since before Prince Charles "caught on"  so we have a milkman at extortionate prices that would stop me sleeping at night if I knew the price

They now propose to deliver only twice a week  - I totally refuse to have 5 pints cluttering up the fridge - hence we will cut down to 4 twice a week

their loss

A month ago I heard a milk collector had gone into admin

https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/milk-haulier-lloyd-fraser-falls-into-administration

so the days of the milkman seem to be sour.

[SydneyRover]

And, you're gonna luv this CLH, another link

''Donations to RNLI rise 3,000% after Farage’s migrant criticism

UK lifeboat charity raises £200,000 in single day after CEO hits out at Nigel Farage’s ‘taxi service’ claim''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/rnli-donations-soar-in-response-to-farages-migrant-criticism

[DRFC_AjA]

Such a shame that money isn't donated to homelessness but rather on importing poverty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67076914

[danumdon]

Such a shame that money isn't donated to homelessness but rather on importing poverty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67076914

It does look now that our priorities as a nation are not in the right order. We involve ourselves in everyone else's business to the determent of our own downtrodden and unfortunate folk.

Where does this attitude get you in the world and what does it bring to us for our billions in overseas aid?

When you factor in our personal charity donations as nation they are either at or very near the top, i do wonder what percentage is overseas aid in our charity donations compared with internal.

I'd hazard a guess we give more to animal causes than we do to the really downtrodden.

Nothing that Mr Starmer wont fix!!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Such a shame that money isn't donated to homelessness but rather on importing poverty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67076914

This is what the Right always does in politics. Smash the poor hard. Then insist it's the fault of the f**king foreigners.

And every generation has people happy to lap it up.

[BobG]

Colombia, and Colombians, is the most generous nation I have ever seen. It's people ditto. Would Britain, if 2.5 million people walked into the nation because their homeland is being raped by a vicious megalomaniac next door in Caracas, give each and every one of them a 10 year permit to stay with access to jobs, education, health care? Colombia has. Would Britons, regularly, over a prolonged time period, put their hands in their pockets to give succour to destitute families who have ALL, including babies, had to walk a thousand miles or more? Colombians do, and their pockets are nowhere near as deep as those belonging to Britons.

Britain is nowhere near being the most generous nation. Think about Germany as another example. German generosity is another example of a nation whose  compassion and willingness to help puts Britain to shame.

BobG

[turnbull for england]

 Bravery to milk to send 'em home in four steps .The sodding One show has clearer segues. Must be a record

[Branton Red]

Colombia, and Colombians, is the most generous nation I have ever seen. It's people ditto. Would Britain, if 2.5 million people walked into the nation because their homeland is being raped by a vicious megalomaniac next door in Caracas, give each and every one of them a 10 year permit to stay with access to jobs, education, health care? Colombia has. Would Britons, regularly, over a prolonged time period, put their hands in their pockets to give succour to destitute families who have ALL, including babies, had to walk a thousand miles or more? Colombians do, and their pockets are nowhere near as deep as those belonging to Britons.

Britain is nowhere near being the most generous nation. Think about Germany as another example. German generosity is another example of a nation whose  compassion and willingness to help puts Britain to shame.

BobG

Credit to Colombia and Colombian people. I wasn't previously aware of that fact.

However the answer to your 2 questions is a resounding Yes at least IMO.

The population of the UK is one of the most generous in the world at making charitable donations en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_charitable_donation_as_percentage_of_GDP

And one of the most generous in world at spending money on international aid www.insidermonkey.com/blog/10-countries-that-give-the-most-foreign-aid-per-capita-1184118/2/

I think you're being a little uncharitable in your criticism.

[BobG]

OK. I'll buy it for individuals.

The awfulness of the Venezuelan government and the situation of its people almost never figures on British tv. It makes me seethe.  Neither does the response of the countries around Venezuela. Or the staggering engineering that exists in South America. Or their approach to what constitutes society.

These are all subjects we could study with benefit.

Cheers

BobG

[SydneyRover]

Such a shame that money isn't donated to homelessness but rather on importing poverty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67076914

It does look now that our priorities as a nation are not in the right order. We involve ourselves in everyone else's business to the determent of our own downtrodden and unfortunate folk.

Where does this attitude get you in the world and what does it bring to us for our billions in overseas aid?

When you factor in our personal charity donations as nation they are either at or very near the top, i do wonder what percentage is overseas aid in our charity donations compared with internal.

I'd hazard a guess we give more to animal causes than we do to the really downtrodden.

Nothing that Mr Starmer wont fix!!

Guess who said this ..............

''I’m all for helping the real poor with whatever they need be it foodbanks or accommodation as long as they don’t turn up watching Netflix on their iPhones''

[danumdon]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

[Sprotyrover]

Such a shame that money isn't donated to homelessness but rather on importing poverty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67076914

It does look now that our priorities as a nation are not in the right order. We involve ourselves in everyone else's business to the determent of our own downtrodden and unfortunate folk.

Where does this attitude get you in the world and what does it bring to us for our billions in overseas aid?

When you factor in our personal charity donations as nation they are either at or very near the top, i do wonder what percentage is overseas aid in our charity donations compared with internal.

I'd hazard a guess we give more to animal causes than we do to the really downtrodden.

Nothing that Mr Starmer wont fix!!

Guess who said this ..............

''I’m all for helping the real poor with whatever they need be it foodbanks or accommodation as long as they don’t turn up watching Netflix on their iPhones''

Sprotyrover ???

[SydneyRover]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

It shows that your largesse is qualified, those that need welfare can have it ............. but can't enjoy it. There are myriad reason why people need welfare.

[Sprotyrover]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

It shows that your largesse is qualified, those that need welfare can have it ............. but can't enjoy it. There are myriad reason why people need welfare.

My lad a Cop went to a house in Rotherham to take a statement of a bloke, He noted the guy had his entire right arm covered in cling film, a massive sleeve Tattoo , my lad started taking the statement, guy says hurry up mate I need to hammer the Food bank before it shuts!

[danumdon]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

It shows that your largesse is qualified, those that need welfare can have it ............. but can't enjoy it. There are myriad reason why people need welfare.

Nobody should be "enjoying" being on welfare. Its function and purpose is to aid people who can't provide enough through their endeavours due to being ill or incapacitated.

If you want to "enjoy" something you go out and achieve it through honest endeavours in a job of work that pays you for your labour's

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

It shows that your largesse is qualified, those that need welfare can have it ............. but can't enjoy it. There are myriad reason why people need welfare.

Nobody should be "enjoying" being on welfare. Its function and purpose is to aid people who can't provide enough through their endeavours due to being ill or incapacitated.

If you want to "enjoy" something you go out and achieve it through honest endeavours in a job of work that pays you for your labour's

Do you have any comprehension how many people are working full time AND need benefits to have a standard of life above eking out and existence?

[BillyStubbsTears]

While we are at it, do you know which welfare benefit has the most public money spent on it?

[Colemans Left Hook]

https://twitter.com/DraatsiInk/status/1715451277054738941

Just astonishing. I didn't even want to get the milk in off the front step yesterday.

if that is a genuine statement you just made 
 as your "official trawler  !!" can I ask you how many times a week your milk is delivered ours is Tuesday 3 Thursday 3 & Saturday 4 that's 10

Mrs Coleman who has hated plastic since before Prince Charles "caught on"  so we have a milkman at extortionate prices that would stop me sleeping at night if I knew the price

They now propose to deliver only twice a week  - I totally refuse to have 5 pints cluttering up the fridge - hence we will cut down to 4 twice a week

their loss

A month ago I heard a milk collector had gone into admin

https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/milk-haulier-lloyd-fraser-falls-into-administration

so the days of the milkman seem to be sour.

think we need to get back on topic here and have the decency to answer the question I asked

or are you peddling yet "another lie"   as you milk the thread by going onto udder topics

[BobG]

If we're on about benefits, ponder, if you will, the wonderful ability to make your 16 year old child, at school and with university on the horizon, a director of your personal services company with one share in their name. That immediately allows you to 'pay' them 12 grand a year tax free. It allows you to give another tax free grand as a dividend on that share, and, what's more, all except the dividend then avoids corporation tax too!

Two 16+ children as directors and you steal over 30 grand a year from the nation.

Guess which party introduced this....

Benefits? The middle classes have more than their fair share.

BobG

[drfchound]

If we're on about benefits, ponder, if you will, the wonderful ability to make your 16 year old child, at school and with university on the horizon, a director of your personal services company with one share in their name That immediately allows you to 'pay' them 12 grand a year tax free. It allows you to give another tax free grand as a dividend on that share, and, what's more, all except the dividend then avoids corporation tax too!

Benefits? The middle classes have more than their fair share.

BobG

BOB, many years ago I had a Labour supporting boss who more or less did the same thing with his son.
He also paid his wife a wage for working in accounts when she never even came to the building, long before working from home became commonplace.
It’s not just the Tories who do stuff like that.

[BobG]

It is just the Tories.  What Labour government  has ever legalised theft from the state like that? What your boss did is utterly irrelevant.

BobG

[danumdon]

If we're on about benefits, ponder, if you will, the wonderful ability to make your 16 year old child, at school and with university on the horizon, a director of your personal services company with one share in their name That immediately allows you to 'pay' them 12 grand a year tax free. It allows you to give another tax free grand as a dividend on that share, and, what's more, all except the dividend then avoids corporation tax too!

Benefits? The middle classes have more than their fair share.

BobG

BOB, many years ago I had a Labour supporting boss who more or less did the same thing with his son.
He also paid his wife a wage for working in accounts when she never even came to the building, long before working from home became commonplace.
It’s not just the Tories who do stuff like that.

We have the equivalent of this happening every day with MP's, how many just happen to have partners and siblings working for them, all on the public purse. Labour MP's being just as guilty as others.

Seems corruption is rife whenever the public purse is picking up the slack.

#allthesame

[drfchound]

It is just the Tories.  What Labour government  has ever legalised theft from the state like that? What your boss did is utterly irrelevant.

BobG

Bob, it has happened over the years under both main Party’s’.

[danumdon]

Sounds like he has his priorities in the right order.

It shows that your largesse is qualified, those that need welfare can have it ............. but can't enjoy it. There are myriad reason why people need welfare.

Nobody should be "enjoying" being on welfare. Its function and purpose is to aid people who can't provide enough through their endeavours due to being ill or incapacitated.

If you want to "enjoy" something you go out and achieve it through honest endeavours in a job of work that pays you for your labour's

Do you have any comprehension how many people are working full time AND need benefits to have a standard of life above eking out and existence?

Most people are aware of some working people struggling to make ends meet, whilst ever the state is there to pick up the shortfall do you expect employers to pay people more than they need to?

If you work in a job that does not pay you enough your choices should be,

A, Cut your cloth accordingly and  live to your means, if that doesn't suit then,

B, Leave the job and get a better paid one, if that's not possible,

C, Go back into adult education and improve your chances of a better paid job by educating yourself to a level that will allow you that option.

Trouble with this country now is that far too many people want the state to do the hard yards for them, where would we be if the majority decide that this was the best course of action?

Everyone able should make it their aim in life to better themselves and not expect the state (other peoples taxes) to pick up the tab.

[BobG]

After seeing how society works and people live in Colombia I do believe you have a point. Here, it is the opposite. Extremely (!) unpleasant and distasteful if you are at the bottom of society. But self reliant further up.  Mind you, self-reliance leads to jaw dropping risks, jaw dropping criminality and jaw dropping fear.

BobG