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Well obviously we'd inherit the Earth.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 17, 2023, 02:02:54 pmWell obviously we'd inherit the Earth.And you STILL wouldn't appreciate him!
If you wanted proof that the Tories have given up on the next Election and are looking to line their own pockets before they go, here you are.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67448602Hunt has been saying for 12 months that there's no money for tax cuts or for decent pay rises for nurses and teachers. Yet it looks like he's found money to cut a tax that applies to only the wealthiest 4% of the population.Tories gonna Tory, of course.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 17, 2023, 01:39:48 pmIf you wanted proof that the Tories have given up on the next Election and are looking to line their own pockets before they go, here you are.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67448602Hunt has been saying for 12 months that there's no money for tax cuts or for decent pay rises for nurses and teachers. Yet it looks like he's found money to cut a tax that applies to only the wealthiest 4% of the population.Tories gonna Tory, of course. Another reason why they should be consigned to the dustbin. Tories work for minority not the majority
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on November 17, 2023, 03:12:23 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 17, 2023, 01:39:48 pmIf you wanted proof that the Tories have given up on the next Election and are looking to line their own pockets before they go, here you are.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67448602Hunt has been saying for 12 months that there's no money for tax cuts or for decent pay rises for nurses and teachers. Yet it looks like he's found money to cut a tax that applies to only the wealthiest 4% of the population.Tories gonna Tory, of course. Another reason why they should be consigned to the dustbin. Tories work for minority not the majorityHow does that work in politics?
Ah right! Care to explain?
My point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?
But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:23:02 pmAh right! Care to explain? Essentially the Tories and Labour are very clever at making you believe in something whether it is against the public sector, strikes, austerity.Obviously I can see you are defensive on some of the things I state however from supporting the Tories/Labour you are basically supporting people who aren't anything like us. Basically rich people.And the general public are too gullible to fall for it which is sad to see.So here they cut inheritance tax for the 4% wealthy. However there isn't enough money for public services.It's all about priorities.And with Labour you won't get much better. People should vote with their feet make a difference, you always hear the same old 'it's not worth voting or nothing will ever change'. It is how they get into your heads and it just gives them more power to do what they want.And worse is yet to come.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on November 17, 2023, 03:28:10 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:23:02 pmAh right! Care to explain? Essentially the Tories and Labour are very clever at making you believe in something whether it is against the public sector, strikes, austerity.Obviously I can see you are defensive on some of the things I state however from supporting the Tories/Labour you are basically supporting people who aren't anything like us. Basically rich people.And the general public are too gullible to fall for it which is sad to see.So here they cut inheritance tax for the 4% wealthy. However there isn't enough money for public services.It's all about priorities.And with Labour you won't get much better. People should vote with their feet make a difference, you always hear the same old 'it's not worth voting or nothing will ever change'. It is how they get into your heads and it just gives them more power to do what they want.And worse is yet to come.rtid91, I do believe that some posters on here try to brainwash people in the same way.Repeating the same rhetoric day after day.
If you think good debate is searching the internet to find anything anti-government, and believing it, whilst disregarding any alternative account of events as a lie, you're in the right place!
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 pmBut the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?Really?Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 17, 2023, 05:50:40 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.
Quote from: drfchound on November 17, 2023, 05:57:41 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 17, 2023, 05:50:40 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.Read and ye shall discover true meaning.BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.
Quote from: drfchound on November 17, 2023, 05:57:41 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 17, 2023, 05:50:40 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.Read and ye shall discover true meaning.BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on November 17, 2023, 05:50:40 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:31:40 pmMy point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.