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you're the last person on the forum in a position to demand anything bb
Quote from: SydneyRover on November 18, 2023, 09:40:44 amyou're the last person on the forum in a position to demand anything bbAnd who's the first? You change the subject repeatedly because you can't answer the questions put to you. You don't even know what you stand for, you just stand against anything the government says or does.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 18, 2023, 09:47:55 amQuote from: SydneyRover on November 18, 2023, 09:40:44 amyou're the last person on the forum in a position to demand anything bbAnd who's the first? You change the subject repeatedly because you can't answer the questions put to you. You don't even know what you stand for, you just stand against anything the government says or does. Which is what I imagine the majority of the posters on here think
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on November 18, 2023, 09:55:02 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 18, 2023, 09:47:55 amQuote from: SydneyRover on November 18, 2023, 09:40:44 amyou're the last person on the forum in a position to demand anything bbAnd who's the first? You change the subject repeatedly because you can't answer the questions put to you. You don't even know what you stand for, you just stand against anything the government says or does. Which is what I imagine the majority of the posters on here thinkBang on rtid91.He is just confrontational most of the time and hardly ever posts on a football topic, on a football forum.
https://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ?si=OSCoJAufQ1qywJMCMonty Python sketch summing up this thread and loads of others
Quote from: mugnapper on November 18, 2023, 10:01:58 amhttps://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ?si=OSCoJAufQ1qywJMCMonty Python sketch summing up this thread and loads of othersAnd who actually started this thread, and loads of others knowing full well it would cause confrontation?
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on November 18, 2023, 04:09:38 amQuote from: drfchound on November 17, 2023, 08:27:41 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on November 17, 2023, 06:25:23 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 pmBut the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?Really?Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.If you vote Tory you must be thick.There are several of our posters who put that line on here.Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die, is it likely that they are a sponger?You missed the point by a presumption and misreading caused by your agenda. If someone has that much money and are persuaded to vote tory for more money, thus taking funds from poorer people, they aren't fit for life. If someone votes tory for other reasons, I wouldn't say they were necessarily thick, but likely they make choices based on ingredients of insecurity, fear, selfishness, cooked in an oven of self entitlement and/or paternalistic powerlessness. No misreading of anything by myself BR, just commenting on how your post is very similar in type to many put on here by anti government people.In your response you have actually made several assumptions yourself so I don’t think you can lecture me about doing the same.In any society there are people who are well off and others who aren’t but to say that the well off are not fit for life is well out of order.Plenty of people who are in a very comfortable financial position do much to help those not so fortunate so if they vote Tory would you say that they are not fit for life Someone wrote on here some time ago that a good socialist is someone who is good at spending other people’s money.
Quote from: drfchound on November 17, 2023, 08:27:41 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on November 17, 2023, 06:25:23 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 pmBut the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?Really?Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.If you vote Tory you must be thick.There are several of our posters who put that line on here.Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die, is it likely that they are a sponger?You missed the point by a presumption and misreading caused by your agenda. If someone has that much money and are persuaded to vote tory for more money, thus taking funds from poorer people, they aren't fit for life. If someone votes tory for other reasons, I wouldn't say they were necessarily thick, but likely they make choices based on ingredients of insecurity, fear, selfishness, cooked in an oven of self entitlement and/or paternalistic powerlessness.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on November 17, 2023, 06:25:23 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 pmBut the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?Really?Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.If you vote Tory you must be thick.There are several of our posters who put that line on here.Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die, is it likely that they are a sponger?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 pmBut the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?Really?Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.
But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 18, 2023, 10:08:45 amQuote from: mugnapper on November 18, 2023, 10:01:58 amhttps://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ?si=OSCoJAufQ1qywJMCMonty Python sketch summing up this thread and loads of othersAnd who actually started this thread, and loads of others knowing full well it would cause confrontation? It's when you get full facts put forward to you that you don't agree with them I'd say going into defensive mode. It's probably best for your case on here to just not be easy bait.What are your thoughts on the VIP lane and how OUR money got spent there? Removing inheritance tax from the rich and taking from the disabled (medication). And no pay rises for public sector workers.. then again they're trying to grow the economy to pay for this... well for the last 13 years seeing as Austerity did us all no favors just them and their mates
It is interesting that we seem to think taxing death is fair, I don't really. I'd argue we'd be better off increasing tax on the super rich whilst they're still alive rather than taxing something that already was taxed in the first place.If I died tomorrow I don't really think it's fair my 4 and 5 year old will pay 40% tax on what they inherit. It just feels such a negative thing to me.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on November 18, 2023, 10:11:40 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 18, 2023, 10:08:45 amQuote from: mugnapper on November 18, 2023, 10:01:58 amhttps://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ?si=OSCoJAufQ1qywJMCMonty Python sketch summing up this thread and loads of othersAnd who actually started this thread, and loads of others knowing full well it would cause confrontation? It's when you get full facts put forward to you that you don't agree with them I'd say going into defensive mode. It's probably best for your case on here to just not be easy bait.What are your thoughts on the VIP lane and how OUR money got spent there? Removing inheritance tax from the rich and taking from the disabled (medication). And no pay rises for public sector workers.. then again they're trying to grow the economy to pay for this... well for the last 13 years seeing as Austerity did us all no favors just them and their matesIt is NOT a fact that the Tories have given up on the next Election and are looking to line their own pockets before they go. That is a one-sided biased opinion that was designed to provoke an argument.
No, it isn't a fact. You're confused. It is your opinion! Unless you're just trying to provoke an argument like BST does.
Mick Lynch isn't all too keen on certain Labour policies either and is a staunch EU Leaver. I'm sure there are a few Labour politicians and pro-remain presenters who wouldn't relish taking him on. However, Mick Lynch's opinion is just an opinion. Opinions are not facts.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 18, 2023, 11:27:19 amMick Lynch isn't all too keen on certain Labour policies either and is a staunch EU Leaver. I'm sure there are a few Labour politicians and pro-remain presenters who wouldn't relish taking him on. However, Mick Lynch's opinion is just an opinion. Opinions are not facts. With good reason. You can't just leave the EU and get what you want. Especially seeing as Tories are after going for the ECHR now seeing as they are trying to shut down protests and stopping striking because they're losing the argument.Fact is Mick Lynch talks more sense than all the Tory MP's put together. Just look at how embarrassing that Tory MP was with him on question time and still couldn't take him on even with a Tory audience.