Predicting the election result.

[Bentley Bullet]

Looks like it, although the Labour Party is committed to the programme, apparently.

By the way, IDM, your continued condemnation of a career liar would be applaudable but your support for the biggest career liar of all makes it laughable.

[SydneyRover]

I meant to say that 32 of the 40 promised new hospitals SHOULD have been built (by 2030). The plan was to have all 40 completed between 2021 and 2030.

But they are not all “new” hospitals are they.?

They classed extensions and refurbishments as new builds along with completely new hospitals built on new or current sites.

so it was b*llocks then.?

Maybe in a very small part of Bentley it's considered a good deal .............

[IDM]

Looks like it, although the Labour Party is committed to the programme, apparently.

By the way, IDM, your continued condemnation of a career liar would be applaudable but your support for the biggest career liar of all makes it laughable.

Utter nonsense.  A no point have I said which party I will vote for.  Won’t be conservative as they’ve repeatedly failed.   Whoever comes next may well fail too, but we won’t know yet.

You keep banging on about Starmer being a huge liar, but all you come up with is changes of direction.  He’s not been in power yet to have a chance not to deliver promises.

Yet Farage only a few days ago wasn’t going to stand, now he is, and as a party leader.  Does that make him a liar?  Or was he just playing games?

[Bentley Bullet]

Funny that, at no point have I said which party I will vote for either. It won't be Labour though, because its leader is a political liar.

"Keir Starmer lied to become Labour leader: it’s really that simple.

It’s not about changing circumstances. He just knew Labour members were left-wing so he had to say things he didn’t really believe to become Labour leader."

Owen Jones.

[danumdon]

Funny that, at no point have I said which party I will vote for either. It won't be Labour though, because its leader is a political liar.

"Keir Starmer lied to become Labour leader: it’s really that simple.

It’s not about changing circumstances. He just knew Labour members were left-wing so he had to say things he didn’t really believe to become Labour leader."

Owen Jones.

Its a pity that we don't have a law that requires a party that forms government to work with their manifesto pledges and only change track if the circumstances change at that time.

What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along.

We've just had a government do this exact thing over the last 14 years, should we really be accepting another bunch of charlatans?

[BillyStubbsTears]

"What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along."

And when has that ever happened?

[Bentley Bullet]

"What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along."

And when has that ever happened?

If that's so, why the outrage about the failing 40 new hospital programme?

[wilts rover]

Funny that, at no point have I said which party I will vote for either. It won't be Labour though, because its leader is a political liar.

"Keir Starmer lied to become Labour leader: it’s really that simple.

It’s not about changing circumstances. He just knew Labour members were left-wing so he had to say things he didn’t really believe to become Labour leader."

Owen Jones.

Do you believe everyting Owen Jones says? Or just pick and choose what you want to believe - because he says a lot of things about Tory politicans as well?

[Bentley Bullet]

I believe anyone if they confirm my thoughts on something.

Don't you?

[drfchound]

People believe what they want to believe and quote “superb journalists” and “brilliant economists” to demonstrate what they want others to believe.
Some even quote from The Guardian because that is where their evidence comes from.
It doesn’t always, and sometimes never, convinces other people that it is correct.

[danumdon]

"What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along."

And when has that ever happened?

Did you actually read the post fully?

Ive just said the recent incarnations of this Tory government.

You know the ones that you have constantly whinged about since forever!

[BillyStubbsTears]

"What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along."

And when has that ever happened?

Did you actually read the post fully?

Ive just said the recent incarnations of this Tory government.

You know the ones that you have constantly whinged about since forever!

And what examples do you have of even the recent Tory Govts winning an election then wholesale ripping up manifesto pledges?

[danumdon]

"What the electorate don't want to see is a government who ride in on the coat tails of a published manifesto and immediately change track, abandon all their pledges and proceed to enact their original plans all along."

And when has that ever happened?

Did you actually read the post fully?

Ive just said the recent incarnations of this Tory government.

You know the ones that you have constantly whinged about since forever!

And what examples do you have of even the recent Tory Govts winning an election then wholesale ripping up manifesto pledges?

Sorry fella, i don't have time to indulge you.