Immigration

[Herbert Anchovy]

In my view we have far bigger problems in the country than this, but it seems to be continually pushed up to the top of the agenda. So…

How should the UK deal with illegal immigration?

[tommy toes]

I used to work with a bloke at Rockware, who had a coat made from Immigration leather, as he called it. (Wolfe will confirm)
So if all coats were made from real leather then at a stroke, immigration would be a thing of the past.

[Bentley Bullet]

I'm not suede by that anecdote.

[tommy toes]

That joke makes me want to HIDE behind my immigration leather sofa.

[Bentley Bullet]

That's better than hiding behind Keir Starmer's irritation leather coat.

[tommy toes]

That’s the most honest straightforward Politician in History your talking about BB, as you well know.

[Bentley Bullet]

That's because of all the poverty he suffered in his childhood. His dad was only a poor toolmaker you know?

[tommy toes]

Surprised you’ve missed his dad being the maker of a Tool…until now.

[Bentley Bullet]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

[TonySoprano]

Certainly not that one that will be at number 10 next week.
God help us

[IDM]

I see some folks on tv when asked about election concerns citing “immigration”, but not saying why or what problems it causes them.

It’s just “immigration”.  It smacks of sensationalism, rather than understanding what problems there might be.

They don’t distinguish between legal migrants and illegal migrants/asylum seekers.  They don’t say there is an employment issue etc.  it’s just “immigration”.

[i_ateallthepies]

They don't need to, IDM, that's the limit of their thinking.  They just fear people who are different.

[Sprotyrover]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

[Ldr]

I see some folks on tv when asked about election concerns citing “immigration”, but not saying why or what problems it causes them.

It’s just “immigration”.  It smacks of sensationalism, rather than understanding what problems there might be.

They don’t distinguish between legal migrants and illegal migrants/asylum seekers.  They don’t say there is an employment issue etc.  it’s just “immigration”.

Immigration is a red herring, I think the major issue for people around it is perceived lack of integration. Fears people have around differing cultures are been played upon and sensationalism has taken root

[Herbert Anchovy]

In my view we have far bigger problems in the country than this, but it seems to be continually pushed up to the top of the agenda. So…

How should the UK deal with illegal immigration?

How were the illegal invaders dealt with at Pro mass migration Glastonbury this weekend?
It's incumbent on those in favour of accommodating them to explain
https://youtu.be/yh9XEJHOrV4?si=sJefe9FixrnvhahK

Not quite. Surely it's also incumbent on those who wish to stop immigration to explain how it should be stopped?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

[Sprotyrover]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

[Herbert Anchovy]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Thanks for the reply Sproty.

[sf9944]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

Seriously?!  How about people start to act with a bit more class?  Whatever their views

[tommy toes]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

Seriously?!  How about people start to act with a bit more class?  Whatever their views

Yes, another disgusting reply from him to go alongside his description of Angela Rayner.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

[Ldr]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

Playing devils advocate here, what are they fleeing from in France? Surely making the choice to cross the channel makes it a lifestyle choice and not asylum as they are leaving a safe country

[Sprotyrover]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

See Ldr post France is a safe Country!

[Sprotyrover]

https://news.sky.com/story/i-wanted-her-to-have-a-future-dads-grief-as-he-buries-daughter-7-crushed-to-death-on-overcrowded-migrant-boat-13130791
This is the tragic story about 7 year old
Sara who died of crush injuries on the Rubber Dinghy last month!
Just what is going off here, father left Iraq 15 year ago, met a Muslim girl in Antwerp and they started having children they them. Had 3 Daughters who were all born in Belgium! Then they all move to Sweden after 7 years Dad gets a deportation letter so they head back to Belgium then France looks like Dad is going to be deported again, So they find an Iraqi People smuggler in Luxembourg and he gets them on a Dinghy!
What did dad do to upset the Swedes? What did do to upset the Belgian’s with what means was he going to fund the £20,000 for the channel crossing, the article says he was bringing them here as we would have taken them in! 

[DonnyOsmond]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

Playing devils advocate here, what are they fleeing from in France? Surely making the choice to cross the channel makes it a lifestyle choice and not asylum as they are leaving a safe country

This has been answered numerous times on this forum but here's a link from the Red Cross explaining.

https://www.redcross.org.uk/stories/migration-and-displacement/refugees-and-asylum-seekers/5-reasons-people-cross-the-channel

[tyke1962]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

See Ldr post France is a safe Country!

Only for about another week .

[Ldr]

Don't be too harsh on his dad. I'm sure he made some useful tools too.

Best part of Starmer Dribbled down his Toolmaker Dads Legs!

How do you think illegal immigration should be stopped Sproty?

Deporting them to Rwanda seemed a good idea.
In my opinion we should build some Camps , porta cabins with bunk beds no lecky sockets, but lighting and heating and get em processed then send em to Rwanda they’l soon get the message!, oh by the way I welcome legal immigrants who don’t present as Military age potential cut throats and who have something to offer in a way that would make the UK a Better Place!

Go on. I'll bite.

1) How does Rwanda work as a deterrent to people who have been prepared to risk drowning to reach here?

2) You talk about people arriving here illegally. How are people supposed to claim asylum here legally?

Playing devils advocate here, what are they fleeing from in France? Surely making the choice to cross the channel makes it a lifestyle choice and not asylum as they are leaving a safe country

This has been answered numerous times on this forum but here's a link from the Red Cross explaining.

https://www.redcross.org.uk/stories/migration-and-displacement/refugees-and-asylum-seekers/5-reasons-people-cross-the-channel

Yes Im aware of that thanks, was playing devils advocate

[DonnyOsmond]

They must feel it's a good enough reason if they're willing to risk their lives for it.

[Sprotyrover]

They must feel it's a good enough reason if they're willing to risk their lives for it.

Clearly what’s on offer in the UK is better than the rest of Europe , we live in the ‘Land of Milk and Honey’ you don’t even need to spend money on Food!

[Bentley Bullet]

They must feel it's a good enough reason if they're willing to risk their lives for it.

Ah, it's not because Britain is painted as the land of milk and honey, then?