Things look to have gone wrong for Starmer in Doncaster

[selby]

  I was shown a recording yesterday of Starmer getting absolutely hammered as he left the race course by race goers on Saturday, nothing on the news channels though.
  You reap what you sow I suppose.

[knockers]

The man was having downtime with his family.
There's a time and a place to call someone out if you believe they've done wrong and Saturday was not one of those.

[BillyStubbsTears]

"Absolutely hammered" translates as "Abused by half a dozen pissed up ten bob millionaires." I don't know how he'll sleep after that experience.

[selby]

  He won't be back Billy, Commies don't like being heckled. He hasn't been back to the pub in York either he was thrown out of a few years back.
   Made the mistake that day of the way the owner was dressed, but hasn't got good dress sense has he, even the lodger picks the wife's clothes at Ann Summers.
  Your not bad Billy, not commenting an something you knew about although just six is stretching it a bit, you want a job at the BBC they don't report news that they don't like either.

[i_ateallthepies]

Have you thought about seeking help, Selby?

[BillyStubbsTears]

  He won't be back Billy, Commies don't like being heckled. He hasn't been back to the pub in York either he was thrown out of a few years back.
   Made the mistake that day of the way the owner was dressed, but hasn't got good dress sense has he, even the lodger picks the wife's clothes at Ann Summers.
  Your not bad Billy, not commenting an something you knew about although just six is stretching it a bit, you want a job at the BBC they don't report news that they don't like either.

I commented on it yesterday. In the Politics board. Where...y'know...we talk about politics.

[SydneyRover]

  He won't be back Billy, Commies don't like being heckled. He hasn't been back to the pub in York either he was thrown out of a few years back.
   Made the mistake that day of the way the owner was dressed, but hasn't got good dress sense has he, even the lodger picks the wife's clothes at Ann Summers.
  Your not bad Billy, not commenting an something you knew about although just six is stretching it a bit, you want a job at the BBC they don't report news that they don't like either.

The fact that Starmer was never in the pub in York and therefore never thrown out and had nothing to do with the way anyone was dressed is all a bit mystifying selby, over to you.

And a little treat for you and any others rewriting history

https://www.google.com/search?q=johnson+and+cummings+atimeline+of+failure&rlz=1C1VDKB_en-GBAU957AU957&oq=johnson+and+cummings+atimeline+of+failure&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE4MzQ1ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:8d8f0373,vid:V4Wgmyl2Z1w,st:0

[selby]

  Syd I have actually seen the recording of him and his minders in the pub.  he was in the seated outside area of the public house when first told not to enter, that is by law a bar area where food and drinks can be served under the licence of the licensee who can refuse entry and remove anyone from that area with the minimum of force whatever that is.
 Because he was young and wearing a piny while serving food Starmer and his party did not take him to be the owner of the public house and entered through the door at which point while one of his hench men pinned him to the wall in the corridor while he told them he was the owner and licensee and it dawned they were on a sticky wicket and left.
  A beer garden is a licenced premises' which should have waiter service, is not allowed to be on a public throughfair, and should be served by a waiter service, and alchohol should not leave the licenced area any that is should be served by a separate off sales licence and a bar separate to bar areas.
  The licensee was perfectly within his rights to eject him and his party from the pub and it eventually dawned on them.

[SydneyRover]

  Syd I have actually seen the recording of him and his minders in the pub.  he was in the seated outside area of the public house when first told not to enter, that is by law a bar area where food and drinks can be served under the licence of the licensee who can refuse entry and remove anyone from that area with the minimum of force whatever that is.
 Because he was young and wearing a piny while serving food Starmer and his party did not take him to be the owner of the public house and entered through the door at which point while one of his hench men pinned him to the wall in the corridor while he told them he was the owner and licensee and it dawned they were on a sticky wicket and left.
  A beer garden is a licenced premises' which should have waiter service, is not allowed to be on a public throughfair, and should be served by a waiter service, and alchohol should not leave the licenced area any that is should be served by a separate off sales licence and a bar separate to bar areas.
  The licensee was perfectly within his rights to eject him and his party from the pub and it eventually dawned on them.

There appears to be more than one video, you show me yours and ..............

[ravenrover]

Since when have beer gardens had ro have waiter service?

[Sprotyrover]

Since when have beer gardens had ro have waiter service?

I
Up to the landlord, ‘St Mars of the Desert’ in Sheffield has waiter service only.

[Sprotyrover]

  I was shown a recording yesterday of Starmer getting absolutely hammered as he left the race course by race goers on Saturday, nothing on the news channels though.
  You reap what you sow I suppose.

Really shocked to see a Labour PM being Barracked like that in Doncaster, the birth place of the Labour Party!

[TonySoprano]

  I was shown a recording yesterday of Starmer getting absolutely hammered as he left the race course by race goers on Saturday, nothing on the news channels though.
  You reap what you sow I suppose.

Really shocked to see a Labour PM being Barracked like that in Doncaster, the birth place of the Labour Party!

Are you really that out of touch that your surprised by this ?

[selby]

  Unless the law has changed since I owned public houses that is the law although very rarely if ever imposed, Another Little known anomaly is that in that area alcohol can be consumed with food by an u18s, I think that the age limit was over 3yrs old except for medical reasons like a brandy for the bairn.
  Outsales to be consumed off the premises had to be a designated outsales point, and alcohol could not be consumed on a public footpath outside the public house.
  It was a long time ago I was a landlord  with specific hours of opening times especially on Sunday and things could have changed but I think overlooked and or not bothered with so much rather than changed so they can be pulled out of the hat if needed. 

[SydneyRover]

Selby, it's still not clear in your hazy recollections why Starmer was assaulted and then thrown out of a pub, also in which pub that you know of do the staff including the landlord wear bodycam?

[Donnywolf]

Is this a Politics thread please.

[SydneyRover]

Dunno Wolfie, haven't read an official diktat on the subject, it could be a game of spot the disappearing thread!

[ravenrover]

  Unless the law has changed since I owned public houses that is the law although very rarely if ever imposed, Another Little known anomaly is that in that area alcohol can be consumed with food by an u18s, I think that the age limit was over 3yrs old except for medical reasons like a brandy for the bairn.
  Outsales to be consumed off the premises had to be a designated outsales point, and alcohol could not be consumed on a public footpath outside the public house.
  It was a long time ago I was a landlord  with specific hours of opening times especially on Sunday and things could have changed but I think overlooked and or not bothered with so much rather than changed so they can be pulled out of the hat if needed. 

As the Bob Dylan song says Things have changed
There are different rules for drinking outside licensed premises, depending on whether the area is covered by the license and how the alcohol is sold:
 
On-sales
If the area is covered by the license and alcohol is available for purchase and consumption directly there, then the area must be included in the license plan.
 
Off-sales
If the area is not covered by the license and alcohol is collected from the licensed premises and brought to the outdoor area, then the area does not need to be included in the license plan.
 
Beer gardens
If the beer garden is on the license plan or was mentioned when the license was applied for, then customers can usually drink there without issue. However, the license may include conditions that require the area to be closed at certain times or to display notices.

No requirement for waiter service mentioned
 

[Sprotyrover]

16 year olds may consume Beer,Cider, wine or Perry WITH a table meal. It has to be substantial and they must be seated at a Dining table.