That was a hard watch

[dickos1]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted

[Ryaldinhio]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

[Ryaldinhio]

I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.

Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore  present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????

[StocksArmy]

Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.

We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting

How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.

You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near

Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.

No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.

The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.

Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding

Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.

Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier

The home games since September?

Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.

I never mentioned home or away nor did I ask what you thought of the performances. I invited you to look back through the threads before you call more and many others negative. You will find that i have been very complimentary in a lot of them. Even when we have drawn or lost. I praised the character in my first post on this thread but, all you saw was that I said what many others have said and here you are again balling your eyes out.

[StocksArmy]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

[StocksArmy]

I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.

Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore  present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????

Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.

[Ryaldinhio]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.

It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?

Plantpot
 

[Ryaldinhio]

I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.

Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore  present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????

Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.

I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?

[StocksArmy]

I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.

Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore  present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????

Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.

I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?

My point is we have dropped too many points at home because we struggle to break through a team that sits in. You should know my point, you have replied to both of my posts about it. Plantpot.

[StocksArmy]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.

It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?

Plantpot
 

I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.

[Ryaldinhio]

I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.

Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore  present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????

Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.

I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?

My point is we have dropped too many points at home because we struggle to break through a team that sits in. You should know my point, you have replied to both of my posts about it. Plantpot.

I do agree fella, as soon as someone sits in we don't know what to do.

[Ryaldinhio]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.

It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?

Plantpot
 

I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.

It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?

[StocksArmy]

This is exactly what im trying to say. If anybody cares to look back through threads from the games since Chesterfield or even Morecambe where we struggled, the signs were there then and had McCann found a way to play against it then we wouldnt be having this discussion. Not saying its easily sorted but lets face it, he gets paid to find a way and we pay to watch it so I am entitled to that opinion but some people seem to think you are negative for saying it.

[Ryaldinhio]

This is exactly what im trying to say. If anybody cares to look back through threads from the games since Chesterfield or even Morecambe where we struggled, the signs were there then and had McCann found a way to play against it then we wouldnt be having this discussion. Not saying its easily sorted but lets face it, he gets paid to find a way and we pay to watch it so I am entitled to that opinion but some people seem to think you are negative for saying it.

When you word it like that I agree.....but he is paid to get us promoted and at the minute we are where we need to be having not played great, hence my trying to be positive on the situation

[StocksArmy]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.

It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?

Plantpot
 

I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.

It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?

Nope. As i have just said previously i have praised when we have lost or drawn and the threads in the archives will prove that. My comments are always on what i thought of the performance and thats whether we win lose or draw. Currently i believe the home form has let us down and its frustrating that we havent got that right and given ourselves some breathing space because we really should have. Bromley, Crewe, Cheltenham, Salford are all games where we have dropped points that we shouldnt have. Obviously i am aware youre not going to win every game but speaking purely on performances weve not looked like promotion candidates and that needs to change if we want to finish in that 3.

[Ryaldinhio]

Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.

If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????

Thats not even possible.

How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........

Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.

I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.

It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?

Plantpot
 

I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.

It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?

Nope. As i have just said previously i have praised when we have lost or drawn and the threads in the archives will prove that. My comments are always on what i thought of the performance and thats whether we win lose or draw. Currently i believe the home form has let us down and its frustrating that we havent got that right and given ourselves some breathing space because we really should have. Bromley, Crewe, Cheltenham, Salford are all games where we have dropped points that we shouldnt have. Obviously i am aware youre not going to win every game but speaking purely on performances weve not looked like promotion candidates and that needs to change if we want to finish in that 3.

I understand that and for anyone wanting to go up home should be a fortress BUT that said and as poor as we have played at times we are in a poor league so we ARE promotion candidates! Some work in January and we kick on to cement our place we already have....whereas last year we were miles off it at this point.

[ravenrover]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

[Fal]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.


We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….

We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league

[Ryaldinhio]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'

If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.

[DRFC_AjA]

TSL is better on crosses than TLT. Distribution better too. Going to be a very good keeper for sure

TSL getting better and better each game he plays and it's a pleasure to watch. Same as Olowu. Kelly improving too but on a bit of a slower trajectory

[Ian Nimmo]

This is a forum and it’s always good to read other fans views.
However what concerns me is that many are accepting the poor play/tactics, just because we are second in the table.
The leaders are some 12 points clear of the champions spot, which Grant has always stated he wants. However many teams below us are now much closer and indeed could take us out of the top 3 with game in hand.

We can’t mask we have a problem which needs resolving.
Ok still acceptable to play from the back but do it much more quicker and ensure we are moving forward instead of all the sideward/backwards passes.

[StocksArmy]

We need to put peddle to the metal on Saturday. Given Port Vales current run we can't have this slow, laboured, rigid look about us. The lack of movement when any of our defenders have the ball really is worrying. Its happening in every game. Its more baffling that its not as though the other team close the space because it is there for them to run into. Can only put this down to not having a settled midfield. He needs to stick with the 3 that started yesterday for a while and I get the feeling thats what will happen.

[Plumbster]

I don’t think it’s a case of accepting poor play but, whilst it is not entirely clear,  I think the anti-negative brigade are arguing that there has been too much criticism given league position.  They do seem to allow for some recognition that things could be better, but there appears to be a line, for which they are the judge, beyond which criticism should not be tolerated. There is an implication that overly critical supporters want the club to fail, or are otherwise not worthy. They frequently repeat the same points in case we didn’t understand them the first few times, and sometimes turn abusive to emphasise their point.

[danumdon]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.


We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….

We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league

I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?

The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.

As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".

I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.

The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.

[Fal]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.


We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….

We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league

I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?

The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.

As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".

I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.

The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.

Football and tactics have drastically changed from the Dave Penney era. How many teams back then were playing a low block and playing out from the back all the time?

[ravenrover]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'

If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.

Surely there's room in the pram for the toys as well?

[Barmby Rover]

If a long ball went forward for Ironside he wouldn't get to it, he is too slow. There4 seems to be a fear of going forward, the number of times in the first half Sterry got the ball, with Molyneux forward of him, and chose to turn and pass back. If there is an acceptance of mistakes made passing the ball around at the back, trying to go forward should have the same status and be tried all the time? We simply break forward too slow to catch the weakest of teams out. Second place and not even out of first gear, what should be done with the second half of the season?!

[Ian Nimmo]

Whilst I wouldn’t advocate a long kick being our tactic, we just don’t use the long kick at all, even when we are being restricted to playing in our half. In many of the home games we have been held in our half by what many would consider to be mediocre opposition.
At least the long kick would see us battling for the ball in the final third, and thus take the opponent’s dominated press off.
What’s needed is for us to play out of the back quickly, this also means we need players to find space to accept these quick passers. At present there is very little movement, all the people around me in the south stand were viewing this total lack of movement in front of our defence.

[danumdon]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.


We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….

We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league

I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?

The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.

As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".

I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.

The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.

Football and tactics have drastically changed from the Dave Penney era. How many teams back then were playing a low block and playing out from the back all the time?

You've answered your own question.

Football and tactics change all the time, teams have played possession football for as long as teams have played route one. "Playing a low block" is not something that's just appeared as some seem to believe, you can call it a different name but it doesn't suddenly make it something new.

At this moment in time we are controlled by the thoughts and whims of GM and his team, our next manager might have a different take on it, its all relative, sometimes its just down to the players you have or inherit.

Lets not try to make it into a science, its a game of pass and move with a ball, you play with what you have and to the strengths of your team, this is one of the reasons why many are concerned. Is GM making the best use of the resources to hand?

[Ryaldinhio]

If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss

It is getting boring listening to the negativity

I didn't 'threaten' anything

No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
 

"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.

So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"

What's this then?

A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'

If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.

Surely there's room in the pram for the toys as well?

Cant hold a debate then?