TSL

[Ryaldinhio]

No point talking to you.
Its only a game

Yep it is pal, and we are on the same side.

[DollyRover]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

TSL slipped for the first, Maxwell slipped twice giving the striker at clean shot at goal when we were 2 down forcing TSL into a good save and McGarth slipped for the 5th. Different parts of the pitch, why so many slips at key points

[tommy toes]

TSL had little chsnce with any of the goals. Evrn the first as his legs went from under him, like Jay with the 5th

[andyst79]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Yeah but the stats say otherwise!

[vaya]

Terrible on first goal, should never be beat from that angle.

Second goal TSL ended up in back of net before it was even an effort on target?

Made a decent save later on though.

He lost his footing & slipped for the first goal unfortunately. Don't understand why you're so quick to come on here to criticise and try and prove some kind of point?! Probably not his best of games but we've played worse and won and likewise the Chesterfield commentators said the same about themselves

Lots of fans have one or two players that they don’t like and jump on every mistake they make.

Walsall 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Fleetwood 2 shots on target scored 1 - 50%

Port Vale 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Chesterfield 7 shots on target scored 5 - 72%

 Yeah, it's me jumping on a player 

What are the figures for MK Dons, Barrow, Harrogate, Gillingham and Hull?

I don't know, post them if you want?

I don't have them. I was wondering why you hadn't included them, and what they were.

I believe over the 30 league games our opponents have had a combined 93 shots on target on our goal, and scored with 37 of them

But that says nothing about the quality of on-target shots, and that might depend on how much pressure was put on the shooter by our defenders. I don't think you can judge a keeper on those basic stats, the 56 saves might all have been blinders, or all routine as far as the data is concerned 

I think that's where I am with this - whether the data is contextualised, or just treats everything as 'a shot'.

[Filo]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

TSL slipped for the first, Maxwell slipped twice giving the striker at clean shot at goal when we were 2 down forcing TSL into a good save and McGarth slipped for the 5th. Different parts of the pitch, why so many slips at key points

Its a recurring theme, our players always seem to make more slips than the opposition on a regular basis, in my opinion they need to review the length of studs they use

[Ryaldinhio]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Filo I didn't see first, only a quick replay.

Second, I agree came from poor defensive header form McG for me. TSL ended up in back of net trying to cover it7.

Fifth was McG slip.

But, 5 goals from 7 on target....and this isn't isolated.

By the way, he made a great save toward the back end of first half that I thought was a goal. So I'm not on a with hunt.

[Filo]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Filo I didn't see first, only a quick replay.

Second, I agree came from poor defensive header form McG for me. TSL ended up in back of net trying to cover it7.

Fifth was McG slip.

But, 5 goals from 7 on target....and this isn't isolated.

By the way, he made a great save toward the back end of first half that I thought was a goal. So I'm not on a with hunt.

I really don’t know why you are moaning about him conceding 5 from 7 when you have just acknowledged those three goals he had little chance of saving

[Ryaldinhio]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

TSL slipped for the first, Maxwell slipped twice giving the striker at clean shot at goal when we were 2 down forcing TSL into a good save and McGarth slipped for the 5th. Different parts of the pitch, why so many slips at key points

Its a recurring theme, our players always seem to make more slips than the opposition on a regular basis, in my opinion they need to review the length of studs they use

As a serious question here......

Could this be down to the fact our pitch is part synthetic?

I've never really known or understood the difference that it would/should make.

[Thorney]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Filo I didn't see first, only a quick replay.

Second, I agree came from poor defensive header form McG for me. TSL ended up in back of net trying to cover it7.

Fifth was McG slip.

But, 5 goals from 7 on target....and this isn't isolated.

By the way, he made a great save toward the back end of first half that I thought was a goal. So I'm not on a with hunt.

Sorry but tonight the blame cannot be directed at Teddy. Not when we defend like that. 4 out of the 5 goals came from the chesterfield player bearing down on his goal after our defence/midfield went for a walk (and a jay slip)

[Ryaldinhio]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Filo I didn't see first, only a quick replay.

Second, I agree came from poor defensive header form McG for me. TSL ended up in back of net trying to cover it7.

Fifth was McG slip.

But, 5 goals from 7 on target....and this isn't isolated.

By the way, he made a great save toward the back end of first half that I thought was a goal. So I'm not on a with hunt.

I really don’t know why you are moaning about him conceding 5 from 7 when you have just acknowledged those three goals he had little chance of saving

I didn't say he had little chance of saving.

1st I didn't see his slip.....still a tight angle to score from so the odds would be on the keeper side massively.

2nd it came from poor defending BUT TSL ended up in the back of the goal before a shot on target, I accept he was trying his best to cover on this one....he will get better at that with experience.

Last one, yes McG slips putaide 18yrd box but that doesn't make it a given goal.....we still have a keeper in the way

[Ryaldinhio]

So people blame the keeper and defence but not criticise the players missing chances. Absolute garbage what people pipe up about. TSL didn’t do this, Sterry was rubbish etc etc. we win as a team and lose as a team

Think you have me all wrong here, on another thread I noted the issue was Ches walking  through midfield.

For clarity WE DID NOT LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF TSL.

BUT if we had a better keeper he would save more than 5 out of 7 shots.

One he slipped, not much chance of recovering and saving that one I reckon, the question should be about how much space their guy had out wide

Another came from a corner that the defense failed to deal with, not much he could do about that

The last was from a defender slipping and leaving the attacker one on one with him, he did everything right on that one and came out to make himself big, the attacker chipped it over him

So thats 3 of those 5 where he had very little chance of saving them

Filo I didn't see first, only a quick replay.

Second, I agree came from poor defensive header form McG for me. TSL ended up in back of net trying to cover it7.

Fifth was McG slip.

But, 5 goals from 7 on target....and this isn't isolated.

By the way, he made a great save toward the back end of first half that I thought was a goal. So I'm not on a with hunt.

Sorry but tonight the blame cannot be directed at Teddy. Not when we defend like that. 4 out of the 5 goals came from the chesterfield player bearing down on his goal after our defence/midfield went for a walk (and a jay slip)

Thorney, I'm not blaming TSL for the loss.

The loss sits with the whole team 100% and the midfield/defence were an issue.

But we are conceding a high % of shots on target in a lot of games.

Thats all.

[Spilsby Red]

Bore off

[GazLaz]

The first goal was a bad error. He was indecisive coming off his line and went into panic mode when he was retreating.

[Ryaldinhio]

Bore off

Really, is that your input? Get to kip lad, guessing you need up be up for school?

[Ryaldinhio]

The first goal was a bad error. He was indecisive coming off his line and went into panic mode when he was retreating.

I didn't see it Gaz, ended up watching from about 15-20min. Saw a very quick replay at HT that's all.

[drfchound]

The first goal was a bad error. He was indecisive coming off his line and went into panic mode when he was retreating.

I wasn’t at the game and the video coverage only brought Ted into view as the shot was hit and he appeared to be almost on the ground, he had obviously slipped, a bit like the Marosi one at Charlton.
I believe he would have blocked the shot if he hadn’t slipped.
I was wondering though why he hadn’t come to the edge of the box to try to intercept the through ball.

[drfchound]

Bore off

Really, is that your input? Get to kip lad, guessing you need up be up for school?

Poor choice of phrase mate.

[Ryaldinhio]

Bore off

Really, is that your input? Get to kip lad, guessing you need up be up for school?

Poor choice of phrase mate.

I don't know pal? Never met a grown bloke that says bore off.

[Iberian Red]

Chesterfield have had 7 shots on target and scored 5.

72% of shots on targets are a goal.

Someone jump in and tell me TSL is a good keeper??????

No fA#ker believes star in this hick town

What?

Troll

Seriously, what did you mean, I won’t be the only one who doesn’t know.

I understand completely.
It's beyond the realms of your understanding.
Don't witty.
I have sympathy for you

It’s ok, I get it, too much sangria has made you a bit tetchy.
Calm down, it will all be ok in the morning.
What does “don’t witty” mean by the way, is it a Spanglish phrase.

No Graham
It's because I flick between 3 languages on my phone.

I never had the intention of calling you witty.
That would be ridiculous.
My apologies.
Stereotyping about the Iberian Penisula and sangria shows a complete ignorance.
Now,about kicking the cat?

You keep chanting Yotkshire when we play..Bradford for example.
You'll feel as fresh as a daisy chain in the morning.

Troll

[Spilsby Red]

If that’s aimed at me. No. I  55in a couple of weeks. I have supported our club for nearly 50 years. Through the highs and lows. Butifit is aimed at me? Guess what , I put things in perspective now. I have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Hence why, I say it’s only a game etc and you do talk drivel. It is what it is. We win we lose.

[Ryaldinhio]

If that’s aimed at me. No. I  55in a couple of weeks. I have supported our club for nearly 50 years. Through the highs and lows. Butifit is aimed at me? Guess what , I put things in perspective now. I have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Hence why, I say it’s only a game etc and you do talk drivel. It is what it is. We win we lose.

Spilsby, I don't know you, never met you, happy to meet up with anyone in here because we are all on the same side.

I empathise for your diagnosis having dealt with that in my own family, very close family.

You have about 10yrs more than me supporting the Rovers so seen more than I have.

It is only a game, but a game that draws passion and excitement so we should get a rush of emotion every time.

I like to think most of my posts and opinions are founded and not 'drivel' that said I am not always right, that is the joy in a good debate! I have close friends who are rovers fans who I disagree with....doesn't mean we fall out!

Yes, we win, we lose and its hard being a Donny fan! But it's probably the same of 90% of EFL teams.

Doesn't mean I can't be concerned about the No of shots on targets that become goals.

[drfchound]

Chesterfield have had 7 shots on target and scored 5.

72% of shots on targets are a goal.

Someone jump in and tell me TSL is a good keeper??????

No fA#ker believes star in this hick town

What?

Troll

Seriously, what did you mean, I won’t be the only one who doesn’t know.

I understand completely.
It's beyond the realms of your understanding.
Don't witty.
I have sympathy for you

It’s ok, I get it, too much sangria has made you a bit tetchy.
Calm down, it will all be ok in the morning.
What does “don’t witty” mean by the way, is it a Spanglish phrase.

No Graham
It's because I flick between 3 languages on my phone.

I never had the intention of calling you witty.
That would be ridiculous.
My apologies.
Stereotyping about the Iberian Penisula and sangria shows a complete ignorance.
Now,about kicking the cat?

You keep chanting Yotkshire when we play..Bradford for example.
You'll feel as fresh as a daisy chain in the morning.

Troll

The way you wrote “don’t witty” never made me think you meant to call me witty, it never crossed my mind.
It was mainly the “star in this hick town” bit that had me puzzled.
However, your explanation about clicking between three language’s make it perfectly clear.
They must be English, Spanish and of course, Gibberish. 
The latter is obviously the one you use the most so that explains much to the rest of us on here.
Let me know when you are next coming to the Eco and you can show me how it works.
PS: I explained why the lads were chanting “Yorkshire” and that is why it won’t be used at Bradford.  Comprende.

[roversdude]

I thought first goal it was indecision never saw a slip but other than that don’t think he did too much wrong
Second goal I don’t think should have stood.
Defensively we were poor tonight but hopefully it’s a kick up the rear and we learn and move on

[dickos1]

Terrible on first goal, should never be beat from that angle.

Second goal TSL ended up in back of net before it was even an effort on target?

Made a decent save later on though.

He lost his footing & slipped for the first goal unfortunately. Don't understand why you're so quick to come on here to criticise and try and prove some kind of point?! Probably not his best of games but we've played worse and won and likewise the Chesterfield commentators said the same about themselves

Lots of fans have one or two players that they don’t like and jump on every mistake they make.

Walsall 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Fleetwood 2 shots on target scored 1 - 50%

Port Vale 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Chesterfield 7 shots on target scored 5 - 72%

 Yeah, it's me jumping on a player 

What about all the other games?

[Pliskin]

Sorry, I don't rate him. He barely seems to save or catch anything that isn't straight at him.

We could've had a cardboard cutout in goal tonight and we wouldn't have been any worse off.

Put Lawlor back in. At least he can actually make diving saves if nothing else.

[5minstogo]

TSL streets ahead of anyone else we have at the club, that won't change until the summer at the earliest. Teddy wasn't great today but he's young and he'll learn. If you commit to going you have to go, indecisiveness costs goals.

[pib]

First goal he was doing the Hokey Cokey and then was flat on his face when the shot came in. Second one he decided to go and hang off the crossbar at the far side while their guy tapped it in in the middle. Absolutely comedy goalkeeping.

Never got the sense the chances for the 4th and 5th were going to end up in anything but goals.

He’s had a few better games recently but I’m not having him. Story of the season is if you get a decent shot on target against him, you’ve got a very good chance of scoring. And if you put a corner in his 6 yard box, chances are he’ll flap at it.

But he’s good at passing the ball so that’s the main thing for a goalkeeper isn’t it?

It was a mistake not getting this position nailed down with a solid, dependable, unflashy operator in the summer, even if they’re a bit boring and can’t ping a 50 yard Hollywood pass. If you want to win titles you need a solid back line and a goalkeeper that can do the basics and keep you in games, not give the opposition a two goal head start.

[Fal]

Ill say it again, the goalkeeper in the short term is the least of our problems. When i say short term, eventually it would be nice to have a decent permanent goalkeeper on the books.

[ncRover]

Chesterfield have had 7 shots on target and scored 5.

72% of shots on targets are a goal.

Someone jump in and tell me TSL is a good keeper??????

I thought negativity wasn’t allowed?

You can have whatever opinion you like, but don’t go mental at anyone else with anything critical to say over the last few months and then go do it yourself