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GazLaz

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What period of the game do we play well?
« on April 08, 2025, 11:45:04 am by GazLaz »
A breakdown of our attacking and defensive output in 15min periods.

As people have alluded to, we certainly concede too many straight after HT but that's perhaps variance as opposed to any correlation with the underlying expectation.

We have preformed well later in games, as has also been mentioned on here recently. I think the fact we have a strong hand to play off the bench really contributes to this.



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craigdrfc

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #1 on April 08, 2025, 12:11:00 pm by craigdrfc »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

GazLaz

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #2 on April 08, 2025, 12:23:06 pm by GazLaz »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I've always thought we would finish top 3 based on data. The mid season slump had me concerned for a while but we've been solid enough to warrant it IMO. We are lucky its been a pretty poor renewal of L2 this year. I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #3 on April 08, 2025, 03:05:26 pm by Smyth »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.




philsky

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #4 on April 08, 2025, 03:59:36 pm by philsky »

Very unscientific but I feel that we play better early season and late season as the pitches arent heavy going.

Mols and Gibson can 'float' across the surface now.

GazLaz

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #5 on April 08, 2025, 04:31:42 pm by GazLaz »

Very unscientific but I feel that we play better early season and late season as the pitches arent heavy going.

Mols and Gibson can 'float' across the surface now.

Bit of a cliche Phil but bad pitches and bad conditions can be a “leveller” for sure.

GazLaz

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #6 on April 08, 2025, 04:33:43 pm by GazLaz »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

selby

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #7 on April 08, 2025, 05:01:34 pm by selby »
  Gaz, the headlines are the first team I give you that as for starting slowly in the early season especially and when allowed now every team goes at us early, and in early season if they scored first our performance dropped off visibly if we went behind, and our young players heads went down.
  And in most cases it was centred down our left hand side, our soft underbelly.
  So most managers are judged on first team results when organising the backroom, strengthening the squad, and if possible doing it within financial restraints are just as important, and like our manager found out before the board member left things he should have control of, are not always made easy for him to do so by other people at the club who hinder his work.
  As an all round manager of all those situations I think he has done well, has had problems within the club the chairman has removed, and now can be judged on his all round contribution including the first team results. 
  I would rate it fairly good with room for improvement.
  I would say our talent identification department needs to show the biggest improvement next season especially on incoming loans, not just trawling the u21s premier division, Bailey the prime example of a player who flourished after playing at that level.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2025, 05:18:17 pm by selby »

Usher wide.

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #8 on April 08, 2025, 05:50:40 pm by Usher wide. »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

Fickle.

GazLaz

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #9 on April 08, 2025, 05:56:27 pm by GazLaz »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

Fickle.

Very much like managers. Love clubs one minute then love another one the next minute.

Usher wide.

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #10 on April 08, 2025, 11:00:49 pm by Usher wide. »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

Fickle.

Very much like managers. Love clubs one minute then love another one the next minute.

A poor analogy from someone who goes from ‘loving’ a manager to then ‘don’t rate him highly’ to saying he’s a ‘good manager for the level’ that you used to think was a ‘great one’.

Two small pieces of advice for you (which of course you won’t give ‘house room’ to because they don’t ‘belong in GazLaz Land’).

1. If you’ve nothing of value to say, say nothing.

2. We’ve all seen your ‘bad mouthing’ in the past of Sterry & Molyneaux, two players who you didn’t rate one for his ‘mental strength’ the other for his ‘limitations beyond this division’, so please, stop telling all & sundry at every opportunity how YOU told the club (given your ‘special access’ to the ‘inner sanctum’ at the club, or so you’d love all to believe that to be the case) they should have tied Olowu down to a contract before this season started.

The club has a real opportunity to end the season as Champions, but you just want to cover your tracks by back pedalling on your ‘initial thoughts’ on Grant’s capabilities as manager.

I believe in this manager. I believe we will be promoted this season. I believe we can realistically go up as Champions.

Enjoy the rest of the season before it’s back to obtaining odds on cricket & horses.

GazLaz

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #11 on April 09, 2025, 06:57:23 am by GazLaz »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

Fickle.

Very much like managers. Love clubs one minute then love another one the next minute.

A poor analogy from someone who goes from ‘loving’ a manager to then ‘don’t rate him highly’ to saying he’s a ‘good manager for the level’ that you used to think was a ‘great one’.

Two small pieces of advice for you (which of course you won’t give ‘house room’ to because they don’t ‘belong in GazLaz Land’).

1. If you’ve nothing of value to say, say nothing.

2. We’ve all seen your ‘bad mouthing’ in the past of Sterry & Molyneaux, two players who you didn’t rate one for his ‘mental strength’ the other for his ‘limitations beyond this division’, so please, stop telling all & sundry at every opportunity how YOU told the club (given your ‘special access’ to the ‘inner sanctum’ at the club, or so you’d love all to believe that to be the case) they should have tied Olowu down to a contract before this season started.

The club has a real opportunity to end the season as Champions, but you just want to cover your tracks by back pedalling on your ‘initial thoughts’ on Grant’s capabilities as manager.

I believe in this manager. I believe we will be promoted this season. I believe we can realistically go up as Champions.

Enjoy the rest of the season before it’s back to obtaining odds on cricket & horses.

I certainly don’t need advice from you but thanks anyway. It’s an open forum and I’ll put across whatever content I see fit.

There’s a slight typo there but that was supposed to read “rate him AS highly”, which I think is absolutely fair. I see you missed the part where I say I think we will finish top three and where I say Grant is a good manager.

You are also insinuating I make things up in regard to who I speak to… Think you are the one who’s got their opinions wrong and are doubling down on it, making yourself look a complete fool.

Smyth

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #12 on April 09, 2025, 07:37:25 am by Smyth »
Peoples perception of McCann is skewed by the playoff game away at Charlton. Sure he got Hull back to the Championship after getting them relegated with Hull's biggest away defeat in 100 years being a lowlight of the season.
A very well catered for squad put together at Hull  from the then owner enabling the promotion.
Nothing outside of that shows his ability to "get more from the budget ".
So long as the extra funding from T.Bramall necessary is there then McCann could be here quite a while.
Certainly regardless of the outcome of this season McCann is here for next, though what the squad will look like is anyone's guess.

Usher wide.

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #13 on April 09, 2025, 08:28:33 am by Usher wide. »
Gaz,

Based on your thorough stat-based insight on us, what is your feeling in terms of where we will finish come 3rd May?

I dont think our performances really align with the investment made and I am slightly concerned if we do get promoted, but one step at a time.
Why would performance align with investment? McCann has no history in management of in T.Bramalls words " getting better results than the budget would suggest ".
Neither is there evidence of "managing the budget better"
Two in Close and Westbrooke who've contributed zero and one player given an extra year and sent away.

A few of last summers signings were and are a puzzle.

McCann has one promotion to his name, more relegations than promotions and more sackings than relegations.





I loved McCann when he was appointed. I certainly don’t rate him a highly now. He’s a good manager for the level, I used to think he was a great one.

Fickle.

Very much like managers. Love clubs one minute then love another one the next minute.

A poor analogy from someone who goes from ‘loving’ a manager to then ‘don’t rate him highly’ to saying he’s a ‘good manager for the level’ that you used to think was a ‘great one’.

Two small pieces of advice for you (which of course you won’t give ‘house room’ to because they don’t ‘belong in GazLaz Land’).

1. If you’ve nothing of value to say, say nothing.

2. We’ve all seen your ‘bad mouthing’ in the past of Sterry & Molyneaux, two players who you didn’t rate one for his ‘mental strength’ the other for his ‘limitations beyond this division’, so please, stop telling all & sundry at every opportunity how YOU told the club (given your ‘special access’ to the ‘inner sanctum’ at the club, or so you’d love all to believe that to be the case) they should have tied Olowu down to a contract before this season started.

The club has a real opportunity to end the season as Champions, but you just want to cover your tracks by back pedalling on your ‘initial thoughts’ on Grant’s capabilities as manager.

I believe in this manager. I believe we will be promoted this season. I believe we can realistically go up as Champions.

Enjoy the rest of the season before it’s back to obtaining odds on cricket & horses.

I certainly don’t need advice from you but thanks anyway. It’s an open forum and I’ll put across whatever content I see fit.

There’s a slight typo there but that was supposed to read “rate him AS highly”, which I think is absolutely fair. I see you missed the part where I say I think we will finish top three and where I say Grant is a good manager.

You are also insinuating I make things up in regard to who I speak to… Think you are the one who’s got their opinions wrong and are doubling down on it, making yourself look a complete fool.

Morning.

As you say, it’s an open forum & I’m content with my content.

dickos1

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #14 on April 09, 2025, 08:52:47 pm by dickos1 »
Peoples perception of McCann is skewed by the playoff game away at Charlton. Sure he got Hull back to the Championship after getting them relegated with Hull's biggest away defeat in 100 years being a lowlight of the season.
A very well catered for squad put together at Hull  from the then owner enabling the promotion.
Nothing outside of that shows his ability to "get more from the budget ".
So long as the extra funding from T.Bramall necessary is there then McCann could be here quite a while.
Certainly regardless of the outcome of this season McCann is here for next, though what the squad will look like is anyone's guess.


Don’t talk nonsense!
Our wage bill is around 5th highest in this division wasn’t it said?
So top 3 and he’s done exactly what you’ve said he hasn’t done.
Carlisle have one of the biggest wage bills, have a look at their league position, same with MK dons

Smyth

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Re: What period of the game do we play well?
« Reply #15 on April 10, 2025, 07:31:34 am by Smyth »
Peoples perception of McCann is skewed by the playoff game away at Charlton. Sure he got Hull back to the Championship after getting them relegated with Hull's biggest away defeat in 100 years being a lowlight of the season.
A very well catered for squad put together at Hull  from the then owner enabling the promotion.
Nothing outside of that shows his ability to "get more from the budget ".
So long as the extra funding from T.Bramall necessary is there then McCann could be here quite a while.
Certainly regardless of the outcome of this season McCann is here for next, though what the squad will look like is anyone's guess.


Don’t talk nonsense!
Our wage bill is around 5th highest in this division wasn’t it said?
So top 3 and he’s done exactly what you’ve said he hasn’t done.
Carlisle have one of the biggest wage bills, have a look at their league position, same with MK dons
He'll achieve something I said he hasn’t done?
Strange comment,  there's a first time for something to happen I'll Grant you that.

Let's see dickos at end of season where we are, then we can have a discussion about " managing the budget better " and how paying players not to play has aided the " come back to win the league " target.
Has anyone connected with Rovers mentioned 5th highest budget in the division, said by who?
Can you yet name what McCann thinks is our strongest team/formation?
What role do you see for Westbrooke, Close and Hurst next season, seeing as that is what McCann is obviously planning for?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2025, 07:38:10 am by Smyth »

 

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