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Pancho Regan

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Re: Luke Molyneux
« Reply #30 on April 19, 2025, 08:20:59 am by Pancho Regan »
Now moved up to 5th in the League 2 goal scorers chart.



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« Reply #31 on April 19, 2025, 08:29:06 am by RobTheRover »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

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« Reply #32 on April 19, 2025, 08:33:28 am by drfchound »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

Nice Rob, 100/1 is terrific value.
I’m guessing you will be wanting him to shoot a lot more in the next three matches.

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« Reply #33 on April 19, 2025, 08:55:02 am by philsky »
The penalty showed his confidence right now.

Just straight down the middle.

No bother.

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« Reply #34 on April 19, 2025, 08:55:43 am by philsky »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

Wowsers !

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« Reply #35 on April 19, 2025, 09:02:06 am by NickDRFC »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

Nice Rob, 100/1 is terrific value.
I’m guessing you will be wanting him to shoot a lot more in the next three matches.

And hoping that Ironside/Sharp won’t be on the pitch if we get another penalty.

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Re: Luke Molyneux
« Reply #36 on April 19, 2025, 09:03:59 am by RobTheRover »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

Nice Rob, 100/1 is terrific value.
I’m guessing you will be wanting him to shoot a lot more in the next three matches.

To be fair, hound, he can shoot straight from the kick off for me.

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« Reply #37 on April 19, 2025, 09:46:44 am by Chris Black come back »
He has had a very good season, certainly. His return in particular has been exceptional.

While I think that McIndoe made a comparatively bigger impact in the 2003 / 04 promotion season, it is interesting that in his 45 appearances that season, McIndoe scored 10 league goals. Molyenux in his 42 league appearances has already scored 16 league goals this season.

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« Reply #38 on April 19, 2025, 09:52:29 am by drfcsteve »
16 goals and 10 assists from out wide are numbers other clubs can’t ignore. I’m certain we’ll get bids in for him. What amount do you think the club would accept?

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« Reply #39 on April 19, 2025, 09:53:12 am by Butchers Red »
Did anyone back him to be L2 top scorer at 100/1?

I took him each way and they pay out on top 4. Another goal and he goes joint 2nd behind Cheek. Can't see Nathan Lowe (one in front of him) getting another so a top 3 goalscorer status is definitely on the cards.

I did at 100/1


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« Reply #40 on April 19, 2025, 10:01:19 am by NickDRFC »
He has had a very good season, certainly. His return in particular has been exceptional.

While I think that McIndoe made a comparatively bigger impact in the 2003 / 04 promotion season, it is interesting that in his 45 appearances that season, McIndoe scored 10 league goals. Molyenux in his 42 league appearances has already scored 16 league goals this season.

As exceptional as he was that season (and for us in general), it feels like we’re more reliant on Moly now than we were on Macca then. Goals from everywhere in that team (4 or was it even 5 with double figures?) and a very mean defence to go along with it.

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« Reply #41 on April 19, 2025, 10:32:52 am by Ian Nimmo »
I am confident if we get promoted he will stay with us.
The real problem will be if a championship club take a punt, financially the lad won’t be able to turn it down.


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« Reply #42 on April 19, 2025, 10:41:28 am by dickos1 »
What do we think we’d accept?
£1m?

philsky

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« Reply #43 on April 19, 2025, 10:43:41 am by philsky »
I am confident if we get promoted he will stay with us.
The real problem will be if a championship club take a punt, financially the lad won’t be able to turn it down.



Tricky one. Macca ran a couple of premier league defences ragged and was central to everything we did going forward. Last out of the tunnel at BV to huge relief each home match.

I think Moly has a similar profile in terms of importance to the team and his overall contribution is remarkable.

Their resilience has to be admired given the stick they get / got and both have that x-factor which forces teams to double up against them.

Hard to split.

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« Reply #44 on April 19, 2025, 12:59:58 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm trying to think of any other season in all my time watching the Rovers where one individual has been so key to our fortunes. And I'm not coming up with anything.

I get the argument for McIndoe in 03/04, but he was the final piece in the jigsaw. He turned a side that had bags of potential into absolute dominators. There were goals all through that side even without him. Blundell, Fortune-West, Brown, Akinfenwa and Green between them scored over 50 league goals in about 120 starts.

Take Molyneux out of this side and I'm struggling to see us having options for hurting opponents.

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« Reply #45 on April 19, 2025, 01:03:59 pm by Chris Black come back »
Mike Jeffrey in 1991/92 kept us up.

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« Reply #46 on April 19, 2025, 01:29:05 pm by IDM »
I'm trying to think of any other season in all my time watching the Rovers where one individual has been so key to our fortunes. And I'm not coming up with anything.

I get the argument for McIndoe in 03/04, but he was the final piece in the jigsaw. He turned a side that had bags of potential into absolute dominators. There were goals all through that side even without him. Blundell, Fortune-West, Brown, Akinfenwa and Green between them scored over 50 league goals in about 120 starts.

Take Molyneux out of this side and I'm struggling to see us having options for hurting opponents.

Rob Jones, 2012/13.?

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« Reply #47 on April 19, 2025, 01:39:35 pm by selby »
  As a matter of interest Billy, how many of the present side would have got into that side or others that have won promotion for us, my friend and I discussed this over a pint the other night and both agreed, individually this is the worst side we have got promotion with if we do go up, and very few if any would have got games regular in those sides. Even went back to Colin Grainger and Alan Finney in the first 4th division winning side and couldn't find a place for Molineux both top players although past their best.

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« Reply #48 on April 19, 2025, 01:42:01 pm by Chris Black come back »
That 2012/13 side was in many respects quite suspect. Jones, Copps, Brown and Cotterill carried a lot that season.

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« Reply #49 on April 19, 2025, 01:48:01 pm by Scooter »
First one that jumps to mind comparing now with 2013 - I’d have Sterry ahead of Paul Quinn

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« Reply #50 on April 19, 2025, 02:01:39 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm trying to think of any other season in all my time watching the Rovers where one individual has been so key to our fortunes. And I'm not coming up with anything.

I get the argument for McIndoe in 03/04, but he was the final piece in the jigsaw. He turned a side that had bags of potential into absolute dominators. There were goals all through that side even without him. Blundell, Fortune-West, Brown, Akinfenwa and Green between them scored over 50 league goals in about 120 starts.

Take Molyneux out of this side and I'm struggling to see us having options for hurting opponents.

Rob Jones, 2012/13.?

Yeah, the team was built in his image. But he was the Capo di Tutti Capi Mester in a team full of Mesters.

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« Reply #51 on April 19, 2025, 02:18:11 pm by philsky »
I'm trying to think of any other season in all my time watching the Rovers where one individual has been so key to our fortunes. And I'm not coming up with anything.

I get the argument for McIndoe in 03/04, but he was the final piece in the jigsaw. He turned a side that had bags of potential into absolute dominators. There were goals all through that side even without him. Blundell, Fortune-West, Brown, Akinfenwa and Green between them scored over 50 league goals in about 120 starts.

Take Molyneux out of this side and I'm struggling to see us having options for hurting opponents.

Rob Jones, 2012/13.?

Yeah, the team was built in his image. But he was the Capo di Tutti Capi Mester in a team full of Mesters.


Jones scored a last minute winner away at Stevenage in his typical style - barnstorming his way to head home.


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« Reply #52 on April 19, 2025, 02:18:39 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
  As a matter of interest Billy, how many of the present side would have got into that side or others that have won promotion for us, my friend and I discussed this over a pint the other night and both agreed, individually this is the worst side we have got promotion with if we do go up, and very few if any would have got games regular in those sides. Even went back to Colin Grainger and Alan Finney in the first 4th division winning side and couldn't find a place for Molineux both top players although past their best.

As ever, it depends on the precise question.

If you're talking about the quality of players relative to the standards of the era in which they played/are playing, then yes I think this one is very thin.

Molyneux would get into any of the Tier 4 promotion sides I've seen without a doubt. Sterry would get into most. Street would be on the edge of some of them. Maxwell on top form and Olowu. Nobody else would be close.


If you're talking about absolute standards, I'll do my usual thing. If you took that 03/04 side at the top of their game and played them against the side we put out yesterday, they would be lucky to have 10% possession. And anyone who doesn't agree is welcome to watch the video of the legendary 2004 match at Field Mill, and reflect on what would happen to a side today that regularly hoyed the ball into the stratosphere over their shoulders. My take is they'd be lucky to get away with 5-0.

If you played the 80/81 side as it was then against yesterday's side, it would be double figures before half time.

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« Reply #53 on April 19, 2025, 02:29:21 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
16 goals and 10 assists from out wide are numbers other clubs can’t ignore. I’m certain we’ll get bids in for him. What amount do you think the club would accept?

Depends what release value is in his contract. He nay also have a promotion clause so he might be due a pay rise.

For Moly to re-sign last summer, these are important details that would have been negotiated. Likely the trigger value isn't silly money, but offset with a decent sell on clause. Any fee over the min value would only increase if there was bidding war.

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« Reply #54 on April 19, 2025, 02:41:53 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Actually, Bailey would have a good shout in place of Ravenhill 03/04 or Kowalski 83/84.

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« Reply #55 on April 19, 2025, 02:55:45 pm by selby »
 CBcb I will give you those four and raise you Neil Sullivan, Martin Woods, John Lundsrum, Tommy Spurr, James Husband, Paul Keegan, David Syers reserve keepeer John Maxted all would get a game in this current squad the left backs especially and the mid fielders Sullivan and Spurr were massive for us and Lundstrum went on to a great career,
  Add your four and that's not a small part of the present squad  who would be sat watching mostly.

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Re: Luke Molyneux
« Reply #56 on April 19, 2025, 03:19:34 pm by Surrey Rover »
I'm trying to think of any other season in all my time watching the Rovers where one individual has been so key to our fortunes. And I'm not coming up with anything.

I get the argument for McIndoe in 03/04, but he was the final piece in the jigsaw. He turned a side that had bags of potential into absolute dominators. There were goals all through that side even without him. Blundell, Fortune-West, Brown, Akinfenwa and Green between them scored over 50 league goals in about 120 starts.

Take Molyneux out of this side and I'm struggling to see us having options for hurting opponents.
Neil Redfern scored 14 goals from midfield in season 1986/87 without which they would definitely have been relegated.

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« Reply #57 on April 19, 2025, 03:34:33 pm by GazLaz »
What do we think we’d accept?
£1m?

Getting a million pound bid for him is impossible. Hes worth nowhere near that.

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« Reply #58 on April 19, 2025, 03:38:18 pm by philsky »
What do we think we’d accept?
£1m?

Getting a million pound bid for him is impossible. Hes worth nowhere near that.

Probably not but worth a small fortune to us

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« Reply #59 on April 19, 2025, 03:41:27 pm by GazLaz »
What do we think we’d accept?
£1m?

Getting a million pound bid for him is impossible. Hes worth nowhere near that.

Probably not but worth a small fortune to us

If we got offered £500k we’d have to consider it in a rational world….. but… developing… selling… having a food strike rate recruiting replacements.. isn’t our business model is it so not sure what I’d do.

We will probably keep him till his form goes then wish we’d have sold him!

 

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