Confirmed - Robinson and McCann

[Barmby Rover]

I’m surprised there’s not been more fall out from the Bayley McCann signing. He offers us nothing, we’re in the desperate mess at the bottom of the league, and McCann brings his amateur footballer son in to our club. McCann was out for number one when the snake crawled off last time, now his priority is jobs for his kids, not dragging us out of the mess he’s got us in to. It's disgraceful in my opinion.

What if he's a decent player?

He’s played a few games in national league north. He might become a decent player, but he’s not a young lad, and he’s nothing like the level of a league footballer at the moment so I’d bet against it. My point is, if his name wasn’t McCann we wouldn’t have signed him. If we’d have plucked some unknown random from national league north there would have been mayhem, but Grant signs his son and that’s all ok? It’s not for me. Our club should be protected from corruption and favouritism.

Appreciate this is a forum to air your views but i find your post offensive! Its full of bias, assumption  and slanderous suggestion. If the manager believes his son has the potential to be successful then i would rather him be successful with us than Barnsley.

I've got no issue with the father/son thing, I do have a two concerns though.

1; will the pressure of being the mangers son be too much for Bayley to overcome?

2; if he's a player with potential,  why did Barnsley let him go?

Just listening to his interview I think Bayley is well aware that he will be held to a higher standard by his Dad than other squad members! As for moving out of Barnsley I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it is Bayley's choice rather than Barnsley's, he must have seen the set up at Donny and fancied being part of it.

[Draytonian III]

If you go on the Barnsley forum quite a few of the Dingles rated him , but as someone previously put he’s on been playing amateur football.
 Also someone who I and travel with to most matches is a golfing mate of one the Alfreton players and I’m going see if he’s said anything about him.
 

[Draytonian III]

I think Robinson could be a good signing for us. Obviously not the finished article but was highly thought of at Derby a few seasons back. You can’t win really, if we’d have loaned a young player from the league above people would be raging that it’s another loan we are developing for a team above.

Welcome to the club lads

My Derby County supporting mate messaged me last night from Australia, he’s there for the Ashes and said even though he hardly made the 1st at Derby he’s a very good player and will be ok dropping down a league

[drfcsteve]

I think it’s fair to question the nepotism of McCann signing his son. If he was good enough why hasn’t he been signed by any other league 1 or league 2 team? Looks suspicious at best.

[Ryaldinhio]

This place gets worse

[mushRTID]

I think Robinson could be a good signing for us. Obviously not the finished article but was highly thought of at Derby a few seasons back. You can’t win really, if we’d have loaned a young player from the league above people would be raging that it’s another loan we are developing for a team above.

Welcome to the club lads

My Derby County supporting mate messaged me last night from Australia, he’s there for the Ashes and said even though he hardly made the 1st at Derby he’s a very good player and will be ok dropping down a league

To be fair most bigger clubs think their fringe players are good enough to drop down a league or two, however it’s not that easy/simple.

I like what I’m hearing of him though, and hopefully that translates into someone who can be an important player for us.

I will remain cautious though until Iv seen him, as Olusanya was described as quality with a lot of interest in him allegedly.

[Fal]

I think it’s fair to question the nepotism of McCann signing his son. If he was good enough why hasn’t he been signed by any other league 1 or league 2 team? Looks suspicious at best.

I’ve seen some stupid posts in my time but that one is right up there!

[redarmi66]

I think it’s fair to question the nepotism of McCann signing his son. If he was good enough why hasn’t he been signed by any other league 1 or league 2 team? Looks suspicious at best.

I’ve seen some stupid posts in my time but that one is right up there!

yep

[The Beast]

I think it’s fair to question the nepotism of McCann signing his son. If he was good enough why hasn’t he been signed by any other league 1 or league 2 team? Looks suspicious at best.

I’ve been thinking about the Nepotism situation and thinking he’s going to come under scrutiny for this. The one positive I can see as that as Bayley’s father Grant is going to be spending his own time and expertise nurturing, mentoring and developing him whatever club he’s at, so it’s a positive that we’ll be getting that input to one of our assets. Whether it comes off is another question, I’m sure they’re both aware of the added pressure.

[Copps is Magic]

People should lay off of the big words without knowing how to use them.

Moving to us from the Dingles is arguably a step down currently (at best sideways). Hardly a step up.

[redarmi66]

I think it’s fair to question the nepotism of McCann signing his son. If he was good enough why hasn’t he been signed by any other league 1 or league 2 team? Looks suspicious at best.

Suspicious!! If he thinks the lad has potential and can be developed into an asset then great. Not really suspicious at all. Hes going out in loan to hopefully develop. Now if he was on 5k a week and put straight into the squad then yeah. But no! Its a no risk punt. I think people should wait and trust a little bit more instead of the cynicism. My bet is if we were top of the league people would be more open to it.

[The Dav]

It’ll be interesting if he doesn’t make it and Grant has to let him go ! That would make it a very interesting conversation in their household over a Friday night supper !!!!

[redarmi66]

It’ll be interesting if he doesn’t make it and Grant has to let him go ! That would make it a very interesting conversation in their household over a Friday night supper !!!!

yep and thats football. Im sure they both know the pressure and the risk. Imagine he does really well and wants to leave for more money! Works both ways.

[NickDRFC]

I don’t agree with the strength of language used but can understand some of the concerns shared within this thread. You would hope that there were enough other opinions on whether Bayley would represent a good signing or at least one with potential, though, and it wasn’t purely driven by Grant himself.

[dickos1]

Some of the greatest footballers we’ve ever produced spent time out on loan before establishing themselves.

Harry Kane,
Declan rice,
Rio Ferdinand
Frank lampard
Ashley Cole
David Beckham

Were any of them failing to get in the Barnsley team at the time? Or were they all world class players within world class youth setups

Not a fair comparison is it! We are fishing in a different pond, looking to develop youth into league 1/championship level.

Some of the greatest footballers we’ve ever produced spent time out on loan before establishing themselves.

Harry Kane,
Declan rice,
Rio Ferdinand
Frank lampard
Ashley Cole
David Beckham

Were any of them failing to get in the Barnsley team at the time? Or were they all world class players within world class youth setups

The obvious point is, young players often drop down a few levels on loan and then establish themselves at a higher level. Alfreton are only 3 levels below us,

[selby]

  It might surprise some on here but I quite like the situation but it will take time to come to fruition'
  It's a clever way to partly get around having no u21s will partly fund some of the players contract if they are out on loan, and they will be playing at a standard and style of football some u21s fail to adapt to despite having huge technical talent.
  I have watched both players and have looked back at the reports I have on them, and although not stand outs in the games  they did well enough.
  In fact in Baileys case my mate and I were at Lemington  I think to watch Jack Goodman who never played and a sub for  Peterborough Sports and Bailey played for Peterborough Sports playing right back, and have seen him in one or two games since including playing in the EFL cup against us when he performed well.
  Robinson I watched at younger age group football at Notts Forest along with Will Flint. bare in mind they left one of the countries best teams at their age group who won the European academy title last season beating the top sides in Europe, and had u18s/19s England internationals in their side coming through, so found it hard to keep a settled position in the team and moved on to us and in Robinson's case Derby.
  So we will have a nucleus for the first time in years of players shoving the first team squad if you include our own players mentioned by Grant.
    The only slight worry I have and from experience we do not want us to to push players above our own because they have played at other higher in the table teams as has happened in the past and are not as good as our own together with the advantage some have had because they have been brought in from other clubs and people in the management teams need to verify why they were brought to the club, and not all will be great signings it's just a fact of life.

[Shawndrfc]

I’m surprised there’s not been more fall out from the Bayley McCann signing. He offers us nothing, we’re in the desperate mess at the bottom of the league, and McCann brings his amateur footballer son in to our club. McCann was out for number one when the snake crawled off last time, now his priority is jobs for his kids, not dragging us out of the mess he’s got us in to. It's disgraceful in my opinion.

What if he's a decent player?

He’s played a few games in national league north. He might become a decent player, but he’s not a young lad, and he’s nothing like the level of a league footballer at the moment so I’d bet against it. My point is, if his name wasn’t McCann we wouldn’t have signed him. If we’d have plucked some unknown random from national league north there would have been mayhem, but Grant signs his son and that’s all ok? It’s not for me. Our club should be protected from corruption and favouritism.

Appreciate this is a forum to air your views but i find your post offensive! Its full of bias, assumption  and slanderous suggestion. If the manager believes his son has the potential to be successful then i would rather him be successful with us than Barnsley.

I've got no issue with the father/son thing, I do have a two concerns though.

1; will the pressure of being the mangers son be too much for Bayley to overcome?

2; if he's a player with potential,  why did Barnsley let him go?

From what I have heard he wants to be part of first team squad next season and Barnsley said it will be another loan in a higher league (so National league or L2) bit like the Faulkner situation, but this time he asked to leave because he obviously agreed that there a place for him with us an a chance to get in the first team squad next season with us.

[Belle Vue Boy]

I don’t think Oldham fans are asking those questions about father and son with the goals he’s knocking in right now. This is one of the last things I’d accuse of McCann of right now I trust he’s good enough to be signed

[Spilsby Red]

Wellens lad is doing well under his dad.

[Draytonian III]

….7 year contract at £3,500 a week with a 50% increase each year, £2,000 a week appearance money, £2,500 per goal, £4,000 per win bonus, no sell on clause. His mum has put his board upto £3,000 a week, with and extra £250 every time she does his washing

[Not Now Kato]

Wellens lad is doing well under his dad.

Indeed.  It also worked out very well at Forrest with Brian and Nigel.  Some people here need to give their heads a wobble.

[drfcsteve]

For some people McCann is clearly above being scrutinised.

I told my wife who has no interest in football that the rovers manager has signed his son, she said “that sounds dodgy, is that allowed?”. I think that is a natural reaction, not just in football but anywhere. It brings in to question whether the person is there on merit or not.

The problem comes when Grant eventually starts putting him in the team, if he doesn’t perform and keeps his place it will demotivate the entire squad. “He’s only playing because his dad’s the manager” etc.

I hope he’s a good player for us but there’s so many ways this could go wrong. Of all the young talents we could have signed we’ve coincidentally happened to sign the managers son.

[selby]

  The optics don't look great, but he isn't the worst u21s player I have watched in u21s football the last few years, and has experience in a league where if you don't stand up they will walk all over you.
  The club have stated he is one for the future and is work in progress, but at least he is not starting from scratch, and will have played, and against a number of different styles of play unlike most of the cossetted u21s players we have tried to give a grounding to and failed in the most part.

[CheeseToastie]

Happened at glenotran with feeney playing his 15 year old son got hammered for it but his son ended up at spurs so not always a bad thing

[Draytonian III]

Feeney is now Harry Kewell assistant at Hanoi FC, a bit different to East Belfast

[GazLaz]

Feels like the deal was done because Conor Hourihane was due to release him at the end of the season. Remembers seeing him play in the cup game at Barnsley, he played well. S

[Colemans Left Hook]

McCann is the project and goes to Alfreton on loan.

Joe Dodoo is at Alfreton - no idea if McCann managed him here

[DonnyOsmond]

Feels like the deal was done because Conor Hourihane was due to release him at the end of the season. Remembers seeing him play in the cup game at Barnsley, he played well. S

Aye, probably same with Robinson. Otherwise they'd be demanding decent fees, and we wouldn't have any interest. We're just helping protect his son, and their budget is probably being cut due to unlikely return to the Championship.

[selby]

  Barnsley's budget  is to be cut substantially next season to something in line more with ours unless something special happens on  the pitch and results in the second half of the season propel then upwards.

[keith79]

Is seen robbo is matty craig 2.0 who does matty play for now. I have tryed looking but canny see anything