Can I just say

[Lesonthewest]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

Agree with this, it was touched on by Grant in his interview, we have to have a bit of perspective, & realism on how far we have come, the effort was there, but just lack that bit of quality that teams like Plymouth have, that's just down to having better quality players, we're not there yet, but we still made them look bang average for that first half. The change of formation today was a positive for me, looked much better.

I'm going to repeat it again. Plymouth didn't have any quality today. We had quality. Lee scored an absolutely amazing goal and in that first half he was flicking and controlling balls with absolute panache.

The difference is we wasted it.

Difference is for me, Plymouth do have quality, not today as they didn't turn up, but still had the nous to go on & win the game. We lacked the quality players to go on & get a 2nd.

[Lesonthewest]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

Agree with this, it was touched on by Grant in his interview, we have to have a bit of perspective, & realism on how far we have come, the effort was there, but just lack that bit of quality that teams like Plymouth have, that's just down to having better quality players, we're not there yet, but we still made them look bang average for that first half. The change of formation today was a positive for me, looked much better.

How far we have come from when? 5 years ago? 12 months ago? We are a L1 club, we are just hovering around at our rightful level. How long has it taken us to get out of L2 in recent history when we’ve actively tried to? Not very long.

From the shambles we were in when McCann took over.

[steve@dcfd]

Look at the stats for the season so far played 34 games scored 37 goals 4th worst in the league conceded 57 goals second worst in the league. We are were we deserve to be. Any of you see that differently then your expectations are higher than they should be. We didn't have the  funds to get two league one standard centre halves in January we get players that nobody else wants and think we can improve them.

I completely disagree with any chat about poor budgets or the funds not being there. It’s obviously not true. We are wasting money on some pretty ordinary men. 

We probably have and if stay in the league we must reduce the squad size and get rid of the ordinary men as you say and try to go for quality not quantity we will see if we can afford them. This should start in the summer what ever league we are in

[ncRover]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

Agree with this, it was touched on by Grant in his interview, we have to have a bit of perspective, & realism on how far we have come, the effort was there, but just lack that bit of quality that teams like Plymouth have, that's just down to having better quality players, we're not there yet, but we still made them look bang average for that first half. The change of formation today was a positive for me, looked much better.

How far we have come from when? 5 years ago? 12 months ago? We are a L1 club, we are just hovering around at our rightful level. How long has it taken us to get out of L2 in recent history when we’ve actively tried to? Not very long.

From the shambles we were in when McCann took over.

He did help in turning us around, but it wasn’t all him. McCann has had a far bigger budget than what McSheffrey and Schofield did.

[GazLaz]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

Agree with this, it was touched on by Grant in his interview, we have to have a bit of perspective, & realism on how far we have come, the effort was there, but just lack that bit of quality that teams like Plymouth have, that's just down to having better quality players, we're not there yet, but we still made them look bang average for that first half. The change of formation today was a positive for me, looked much better.

How far we have come from when? 5 years ago? 12 months ago? We are a L1 club, we are just hovering around at our rightful level. How long has it taken us to get out of L2 in recent history when we’ve actively tried to? Not very long.

From the shambles we were in when McCann took over.

He did help in turning us around, but it wasn’t all him. McCann has had a far bigger budget than what McSheffrey and Schofield did.

We’ve improved due to the application of money. Terry taking over as Chair and having a different vision to David Blunt was the catalyst.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I think we'll stay up this season, and as said, recruitment needs to be better this summer. We've got some good players but need a couple of Tom Anderson, Andy Butler, Rob Jones types at the back. Club stability is the key, and I think managerial stability too for at least next season.

A few solid seasons in this league and who knows, we could have another good flirt with the Championship. We're miles from that right now, would be a disaster.

[Padge_DRFC]

Awful. No. But people see what they want. Two crap goals to give away, I get that but Hanlon will get dogs abuse and Clifton as always. But they put a shift in

Clifton always puts a shift in, but there's zero quality or end product.

[In the box]

Look at the stats for the season so far played 34 games scored 37 goals 4th worst in the league conceded 57 goals second worst in the league. We are were we deserve to be. Any of you see that differently then your expectations are higher than they should be. We didn't have the  funds to get two league one standard centre halves in January we get players that nobody else wants and think we can improve them.

I completely disagree with any chat about poor budgets or the funds not being there. It’s obviously not true. We are wasting money on some pretty ordinary men.

Who decides to give contracts to “Pretty ordinary players” it’s these decisions that causing the problem and reflecting on loan requirements and then a January window to correct that !! The Budget is the main guide on how the squad is put together as quality costs and we are not paying that bill . Go back in L2 and build for L1 and repeat until you get a championship team , because until you can compete at the league above your always going backwards ..

[ForsolongaRover]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

If you listen to their manager’s post-match interview you might modify your view about their quality. They were seriously weakened with injuries and nowhere near full strength. In justifying poor performances you have to take a balanced view of all the facts.

[jmt23]

That may be true, but the average quality of their squad, due to a significantly large budget, is far better than ours.
I do think our squad is far too big, and the average quality is low end league one, top end league 2.
This balance clearly needs addressing in the summer, and I expect I will be.

[Upton Rover]

Yes terrible defending for there goals. However, the players gave there all. And that’s what matters

If that was giving your all we really are F@&*$d.

who should we judge by then? We have a manager who can't pick a stable side 2 games running, he's lost the plot

[Ian Nimmo]

Did the lads work hard today? yes of course they did, don’t know how anyone could say they didn’t.
Was there poor defending? Yes particularly the second goal where Byrne lost his man.
Was it a better formation? I reckon it was, we certainly got forward more. Wasn’t impressed when sterry came on, he seemed to be all over the place.
Should Plymouth have been down to 10 in first half? Definitely their caption should have been off, this would have led to a vert different game.
I think the Plymouth commentary team said it, there were very impressed with us, except for the final third.

[Lesonthewest]

I agree and well said, they have very expensive quality all over the pitch, and whilst we really pushed them in the first half, they had our number in the second and we got nowhere near.

We should not be judged against Stockport, Cardiff or Plymouth.

Agree with this, it was touched on by Grant in his interview, we have to have a bit of perspective, & realism on how far we have come, the effort was there, but just lack that bit of quality that teams like Plymouth have, that's just down to having better quality players, we're not there yet, but we still made them look bang average for that first half. The change of formation today was a positive for me, looked much better.

How far we have come from when? 5 years ago? 12 months ago? We are a L1 club, we are just hovering around at our rightful level. How long has it taken us to get out of L2 in recent history when we’ve actively tried to? Not very long.

From the shambles we were in when McCann took over.

He did help in turning us around, but it wasn’t all him. McCann has had a far bigger budget than what McSheffrey and Schofield did.

Absolutely it wasn't all him, it's a collective from the chairman down, but, we all know it was a s--t show when he came back, he as won the league 2 title, & brought in mostly excellent backroom staff.

He's made mistakes & still is, but he is a good manager & a perfect fit for a club of our size, cares for the club, & has the passion for eventually taking us to to the the Championship, it's a long term project that if we can survive this season would be on course to achieve. Sometimes change is not for the better.

Suppose we'll never know what Schofield or McSheffrey would have done with a decent budget, but I dare say they would have been behind how far McCann has brought us, on the pitch & off it. For me the major failings this season have been misjudging the quality of league 1, the recruitment, & the insistence of 2 for 1 in every position, it worked in league 2, but it won't in league 1. But I'm sure we can learn from these mistakes & improve again in the summer ready for next season. Will say though survival this season is crucial.

[Draytonian III]

Danny Schofield and Garry McSheffrey will work in football for years to come but will never manage a football league club full time again

[Donnywolf]

Did the lads work hard today? yes of course they did, don’t know how anyone could say they didn’t.
Was there poor defending? Yes particularly the second goal where Byrne lost his man.
Was it a better formation? I reckon it was, we certainly got forward more. Wasn’t impressed when sterry came on, he seemed to be all over the place.
Should Plymouth have been down to 10 in first half? Definitely their caption should have been off, this would have led to a vert different game.
I think the Plymouth commentary team said it, there were very impressed with us, except for the final third.

Have to agree re Red Card , and I would add that Pepple was extremely lucky to escape with no Card after the very late and high tackle earlier than that on Robbie Gotts I think it was. Not only did he NOT get a Yellow for that but completely dissed the Ref throwing his arms about , pointing to a (perhaps) previous tackle on him , and it was long and it was obvious and the Card Happy Ref overlooked it. Personally I think he should have pulled a Yellow straight out and said " Ill overlook the "tackle" but this is for the clear dissent

I wasnt surprised to see Pepple repeat the dissent in the second half and the Ref had grown some and showed him a Yellow.

I was surprised to see the Card happy Ref show a Yellow to Senior for time wasting in the First half when not putting a throw in into play , but I wasnt surprised to see him ignoring much longer spells of time wasting , especially Goal Kicks once PAFC were the Team in the lead. Inconsistency again clearly demonstrated by same Ref in same game

[GazLaz]

Did the lads work hard today? yes of course they did, don’t know how anyone could say they didn’t.
Was there poor defending? Yes particularly the second goal where Byrne lost his man.
Was it a better formation? I reckon it was, we certainly got forward more. Wasn’t impressed when sterry came on, he seemed to be all over the place.
Should Plymouth have been down to 10 in first half? Definitely their caption should have been off, this would have led to a vert different game.
I think the Plymouth commentary team said it, there were very impressed with us, except for the final third.

Have to agree re Red Card , and I would add that Pepple was extremely lucky to escape with no Card after the very late and high tackle earlier than that on Robbie Gotts I think it was. Not only did he NOT get a Yellow for that but completely dissed the Ref throwing his arms about , pointing to a (perhaps) previous tackle on him , and it was long and it was obvious and the Card Happy Ref overlooked it. Personally I think he should have pulled a Yellow straight out and said " Ill overlook the "tackle" but this is for the clear dissent

I wasnt surprised to see Pepple repeat the dissent in the second half and the Ref had grown some and showed him a Yellow.

I was surprised to see the Card happy Ref show a Yellow to Senior for time wasting in the First half when not putting a throw in into play , but I wasnt surprised to see him ignoring much longer spells of time wasting , especially Goal Kicks once PAFC were the Team in the lead. Inconsistency again clearly demonstrated by same Ref in same game

The only mitigation I can give against the red card was that he did try and retract his foot at the last minute. Maybe that’s what the ref saw and deemed it not a red.

[Donnywolf]

Also did anyone get a view of the "alleged" elbow on Senior right in front of the Dugouts. His nose was bleeding and he wasnt kicked

How unlucky for us when the 4th Official who would have had a ringside seat had gone away to get the Added Time Board

We had long discussions on here recently about what 4th Officials see and what they maybe see and dont act on and it would have been interesting to see if action might have been taken , but I have to say though it looked an elbow to me it may not have been