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SydneyRover

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''Emergency hospital admissions fell after introduction of London’s T-charge and Ulez, study suggests

Imperial College scientists analysed health records before and after introduction of air pollution reduction zones''

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/12/emergency-hospital-admissions-reduced-london-t-charge-ulez-air-quality

sorry about that.



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Dagenham Rover

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Juist moved all the issues further out so not my problem! Did you know when the "congestion charge" was introduced  by Ken Livingstone  he admitted after a couple of years traffic lights had been stragically changed in the outer boroughs to "prove" the congestion charge was working in central London causing chaos in the outer boroughs and yes I lived in the outer boroughs at the time and had to travel along the A13 into town   Ohhh magic you get to beyond Canning Town and miraculously no traffic jams where previously there was the worst jams apart from Barking flyover. As I sai9d somewhere else stats/data can be made to say whatever you want it to say

drfchound

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Daggers, some people believe what they want to believe don’t they.
Amazing isn’t it that those fumes don’t move around.
Bob Dylan was right mate.

Sprotyrover

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Daggers, some people believe what they want to believe don’t they.
Amazing isn’t it that those fumes don’t move around.
Bob Dylan was right mate.
15 months ago I Ken’s old patch , Willesden and Dollis Hill. saw thousands of Cars which were old and weary , driven by people clearly not born in the UK, I assumed they are all registered to Ken Livingston, VLAD Putin,or  Keir STABBER nos 3 to 5 high street Willesden.
also I know that you can breach ULEZ  6 times and ignore the Penalty before they take it further. Too busy screwing honest folk who engage!

SydneyRover

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Juist moved all the issues further out so not my problem! Did you know when the "congestion charge" was introduced  by Ken Livingstone  he admitted after a couple of years traffic lights had been stragically changed in the outer boroughs to "prove" the congestion charge was working in central London causing chaos in the outer boroughs and yes I lived in the outer boroughs at the time and had to travel along the A13 into town   Ohhh magic you get to beyond Canning Town and miraculously no traffic jams where previously there was the worst jams apart from Barking flyover. As I sai9d somewhere else stats/data can be made to say whatever you want it to say

I didn't know that DR, do you have a link so I can read up about it?

tyke1962

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Daggers, some people believe what they want to believe don’t they.
Amazing isn’t it that those fumes don’t move around.
Bob Dylan was right mate.


Sadistic Khan strikes again , it's a bit like the falling murder rate in the capital which of course is a good thing  .

Sadistic claims all the glory for this but fails to tell you it's more to do with the advancement in medical science rather than him getting a grip on it .

Dagenham Rover

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Juist moved all the issues further out so not my problem! Did you know when the "congestion charge" was introduced  by Ken Livingstone  he admitted after a couple of years traffic lights had been stragically changed in the outer boroughs to "prove" the congestion charge was working in central London causing chaos in the outer boroughs and yes I lived in the outer boroughs at the time and had to travel along the A13 into town   Ohhh magic you get to beyond Canning Town and miraculously no traffic jams where previously there was the worst jams apart from Barking flyover. As I sai9d somewhere else stats/data can be made to say whatever you want it to say

I didn't know that DR, do you have a link so I can read up about it?

It was in the Evening Standard  a long time ago I'll have to try and look for it, but one of those things that caused a fair bit of discussion at the time, those that regularly travelled along the A13 corridor knew damn well the traffic lights had been rephased

SydneyRover

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Great thanks for that DR I would hate to see it as just another conspiracy aye?

Sprotyrover

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Great thanks for that DR I would hate to see it as just another conspiracy aye?
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Great thanks for that DR I would hate to see it as just another conspiracy aye?
Clearly it was a conspiracy by KEN LIVINGSTONE AND CO

Dagenham Rover

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Great thanks for that DR I would hate to see it as just another conspiracy aye?


There you go Syd Hope the Independents a good enough source

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-how-livingstone-has-brought-congestion-to-capital-179564.html

another little insight  Plenty more out there 

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmtran/591/4051214.htm
« Last Edit: June 14, 2026, 11:48:51 am by Dagenham Rover »

SydneyRover

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That's a different accusation that doesn't discuss air quality, did you read it DR?

Dagenham Rover

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That's a different accusation that doesn't discuss air quality, did you read it DR?

Yes I did read it I lived in London at the time I know the furore it all caused. It was nothing to do with air quality it was/is all about raising money of course the wind never blows fumes into the area :)  However I'm not saying vehicle emission's did not need to be cleaned up so tighten the emission's tests on MOT's so the individuals/companys  causing the main problem are affected the blanket charge for everyone is purely a money making exercise. A friend of mine had a Toyota Auris diesel as a Private Hire when it was all brought in in Sheffield the council went on a year of manufacture his car was 1 year older than the councils cut off he even proved it was the same engine and same emissions as the following years Auris Sheffield Council totally refused manufacturers evidence and said its different , Money making scam
« Last Edit: June 14, 2026, 11:59:03 am by Dagenham Rover »

SydneyRover

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Apologies I thought you're original post was connected in some way to my OP.

SydneyRover

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And as I said your link provides accusations, but no proof.

Dagenham Rover

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That's a different accusation that doesn't discuss air quality, did you read it DR?


By keeping cars idling and sat not moving affects the air quality so they are totally interlinked  Did you read the Parlimentary link?

SydneyRover

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That's a different accusation that doesn't discuss air quality, did you read it DR?


By keeping cars idling and sat not moving affects the air quality so they are totally interlinked  Did you read the Parlimentary link?

This is your accusation DR

''Did you know when the "congestion charge" was introduced  by Ken Livingstone, he admitted after a couple of years traffic lights had been stragically changed in the outer boroughs to "prove" the congestion charge was working in central London''

I haven't read anything that you have posted that proves it.

Dagenham Rover

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That's a different accusation that doesn't discuss air quality, did you read it DR?


By keeping cars idling and sat not moving affects the air quality so they are totally interlinked  Did you read the Parlimentary link?

This is your accusation DR

''Did you know when the "congestion charge" was introduced  by Ken Livingstone, he admitted after a couple of years traffic lights had been stragically changed in the outer boroughs to "prove" the congestion charge was working in central London''

I haven't read anything that you have posted that proves it.

I can't be bothered to trawl through the public  Information, Hansard. news reports etc  suffice to say there are hundreds if not thousands of articles all stating traffic lights were rephased in the 12/18 months before the original Congestion Charge  Pure coincidence, don't be so naive. It was a planned strategy and is well known to have been and eventually admitted. As I said I can't be bothered to try and trawl through newspaper reports etc from 25 years ago I have better things to do just as a point of interest  I drove HGV's in East and Central London for the best part of 30 years 

SydneyRover

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With all due respect DR, you have already trawled and posted what you can find except it doesn't prove what you say is true.

You obviously know how google works, it returns your search parameters first and then gives ever diminishing returns.

If you post something that proves what you say you will have proved your point.

Meanwhile back on topic:

''Emergency hospital admissions fell after introduction of London’s T-charge and Ulez, study suggests

Imperial College scientists analysed health records before and after introduction of air pollution reduction zones''

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/12/emergency-hospital-admissions-reduced-london-t-charge-ulez-air-quality


Dagenham Rover

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I didn't "trawl" I did a very quick search but there you go

SydneyRover

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bump

With all due respect DR, you have already trawled and posted what you can find except it doesn't prove what you say is true.

You obviously know how google works, it returns your search parameters first and then gives ever diminishing returns.

If you post something that proves what you say you will have proved your point.

Meanwhile back on topic:

''Emergency hospital admissions fell after introduction of London’s T-charge and Ulez, study suggests

Imperial College scientists analysed health records before and after introduction of air pollution reduction zones''

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/12/emergency-hospital-admissions-reduced-london-t-charge-ulez-air-quality

 

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