Ukraine

[Metalmicky]

I've ran the full range of emotions today - really strange as I have no connection to the Ukraine.

I was in tears when saw a live report of all the people signing up and a work chain being formed to make Molotov cocktails..
I was angered when I saw the false reports from the Putin pack and the Russian media..
and I felt great pride in the united response of the European nations...... and the Russian public.
 
I'm also fast becoming a fan of President Volodymyr Zelensky...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60539193

I felt an overwhelming sense of doom on Thursday and Friday - but today I feel like I'm sitting in my Ukrainian T-shirt and willing them on...

I've just given money to the cause, but can't help but feel that I wish I could do more for the people of my now second favourite country....... so very brave and resilient... 

[drfchound]

Agree MM. I also had a wave of emotion come over me this morning watching all those displaced people on the telly.

[idler]

A mate was telling me that a friend of his Polish wife that is Russian face timed her mother in Russia who was saying the troops were doing well and killing the murderous Ukranians soldiers.
Her daughter then explained to her mum the reality of the situation and watching RT for news was no good.
The younger Russians getting news via the Internet are far more in Sync with the rest of the world and know exactly what Putin's trying to do and despise him for it.

[drfchound]

A mate was telling me that a friend of his Polish wife that is Russian face timed her mother in Russia who was saying the troops were doing well and killing the murderous Ukranians soldiers.
Her daughter then explained to her mum the reality of the situation and watching RT for news was no good.
The younger Russians getting news via the Internet are far more in Sync with the rest of the world and know exactly what Putin's trying to do and despise him for it.

Yep idler, as i said earlier, it is a very different world now to what we had in 1938.
The internet and face time etc make real news much more easy to get.

[BillyStubbsTears]

A mate was telling me that a friend of his Polish wife that is Russian face timed her mother in Russia who was saying the troops were doing well and killing the murderous Ukranians soldiers.
Her daughter then explained to her mum the reality of the situation and watching RT for news was no good.
The younger Russians getting news via the Internet are far more in Sync with the rest of the world and know exactly what Putin's trying to do and despise him for it.

There's a lot of enmity among older Polish and Ukrainian people, going back to the War.

we need the younger generations to look for ties that bind rather than reasons to hate.

[drfchound]

There was a piece on tv earlier today about how some Russian people were seeing the current situation.
Most of the younger ones interviewed were against Putin and the invasion of Ukraine.

[River Don]

Information just wants to be free.

It's so much harder to control information today, I certainly don't think Putin has anything like the same level of control the Chinese have.

[idler]

I do think that the educated Russians deplore Putin’s actions and the young Russians know exactly what the rest of the world really thinks about Putin and his regime.

[Filo]

I think Putin is on thin ice, he needs to capture Kyiv very soon, or he may eventually be overthrown by his own people

[drfchound]

I think Putin is on thin ice, he needs to capture Kyiv very soon, or he may eventually be overthrown by his own people

I dearly hope so.

[Filo]

I think Putin is on thin ice, he needs to capture Kyiv very soon, or he may eventually be overthrown by his own people

I dearly hope so.

The poker player may have gone all in on the wrong hand

[River Don]

It appears the heavy weapons will reach the outskirts of Kyiv tonight.

An expert on the news suggests the Ukrainians might be better off allowing the Russians into the city. It would make it hard to bombard them and allow them to use guerilla tactics and inflict casualties that way.

No doubt they will be getting advice from western specialists.

[idler]

There must be a lot of powerful Russians now questioning Putin’s ability to govern Russia in any way that the rest of the world won’t condemn. I wonder how many conversations are going on with these people behind closed doors?
It is only fear stopping more internal criticism.

[River Don]

More protests in St Petersburg tonight.

They are small in scale but they are still happening.

[drfchound]

Brave souls indeed.

[Sprotyrover]

I think he thought it be over the first day a Putch with the Ukrainian armed forces capitulating that hasn't happened and he now has to become a War criminal and kill women and children and destroy civilians targets, something we haven't yet seen except for the odd stray missile, bearing in mind the close links between Russians and Ukrainians this is going to be very difficult to enforce. I don't think the Russian soldiers have their hearts in it, reminds me of Mussolini and the Italian army in the Second World War.

[BillyStubbsTears]

He's been a war criminal for 20 years, since he flattened Grozny. The difference is, if he does it this time, it will be beamed into living rooms all over the world, and no amount of censorship will keep that quiet.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The contortions that the far left/right go through when their 4th form vision of reality gets dragged out of debating halls and comes up against the real world.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Fio_edwards/status/1492444755300651011

"Russia is not the aggressor".

Dear f**king God in heaven.

[River Don]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

[rich1471]

Roman abramavic has handed over control of Chelsea to the charity trust that has been set up

[drfchound]

The contortions that the far left/right go through when their 4th form vision of reality gets dragged out of debating halls and comes up against the real world.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Fio_edwards/status/1492444755300651011

"Russia is not the aggressor".

Dear f**king God in heaven.

Yeah but it is Twitter so we know what sort of crap goes out on there.

[Filo]

Roman abramavic has handed over control of Chelsea to the charity trust that has been set up

Protecting his asset from being seized

[drfchound]

Surely that could be challenged though, is he hiding an asset.

[River Don]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

They've just shown it again. I'm not sure if he's brave or just incandescent with anger. Whatever it's impressive, like something out of Apocalypse Now. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

[tyke1962]

Roman abramavic has handed over control of Chelsea to the charity trust that has been set up

Protecting his asset from being seized

Correct , you can't seize assets from a charity .

[tyke1962]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

They've just shown it again. I'm not sure if he's brave or just incandescent with anger. Whatever it's impressive, like something out of Apocalypse Now. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I saw this guy .

I'm going with brave and highly motivated and prepared to die to defend his country .

[tyke1962]

I've ran the full range of emotions today - really strange as I have no connection to the Ukraine.

I was in tears when saw a live report of all the people signing up and a work chain being formed to make Molotov cocktails..
I was angered when I saw the false reports from the Putin pack and the Russian media..
and I felt great pride in the united response of the European nations...... and the Russian public.
 
I'm also fast becoming a fan of President Volodymyr Zelensky...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60539193

I felt an overwhelming sense of doom on Thursday and Friday - but today I feel like I'm sitting in my Ukrainian T-shirt and willing them on...

I've just given money to the cause, but can't help but feel that I wish I could do more for the people of my now second favourite country....... so very brave and resilient...

MM how do you donate money to the Ukrainian cause ?

I also want to donate .

[drfchound]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

They've just shown it again. I'm not sure if he's brave or just incandescent with anger. Whatever it's impressive, like something out of Apocalypse Now. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I saw this guy .

I'm going with brave and highly motivated and prepared to die to defend his country .

Has anyone got a link to this. I don’t have sky tv.

[tyke1962]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

They've just shown it again. I'm not sure if he's brave or just incandescent with anger. Whatever it's impressive, like something out of Apocalypse Now. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I saw this guy .

I'm going with brave and highly motivated and prepared to die to defend his country .

Has anyone got a link to this. I don’t have sky tv.

Tried finding it on YouTube Hound but it's not listed for some reason .

Don't know why .

[drfchound]

Oh man,

Sky have just shown footage of a Ukranian soldier striding unflinching through a fire fight. Ranting about Russian f**king animals with a British anti tank launcher on his shoulder.

He signs off "I swear I'll never speak Russian again.

They've just shown it again. I'm not sure if he's brave or just incandescent with anger. Whatever it's impressive, like something out of Apocalypse Now. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I saw this guy .

I'm going with brave and highly motivated and prepared to die to defend his country .

Has anyone got a link to this. I don’t have sky tv.

Tried finding it on YouTube Hound but it's not listed for some reason .

Don't know why .

Yeah, I googled it too and it didn’t come up with anything.
Maybe the Russians have blocked it.