Ukraine

[Bristol Red Rover]

Right. We're getting somewhere.

What military target was close to the kid's playpark in Kyiv?

What target was close to the shopping centre in Kremenchuk?

Do you have any reflections on the "missing of targets" with the use in densely built up urban areas of weapons that have, at best, an accuracy of +/-100m?

And when you've stopped for a minute to consider those points, perhaps you can tell us if you truly believe that Russia is trying to destroy Ukraine's military, rather than trying to terrorise and attack its civilians?

There can be many reasons why a missile misses it's target. The shopping centre we already discussed at great length.

You have consistently not replied to Ukraine's shelling of cililian targets in Donetsk as a for instance? Plus the land mines shelled there.

What proportion of Russian missiles are you suggesting hit playgrounds, civilian only buildings etc? Do you miss the destruction of military targets?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yes we discussed the shopping centre at length.

You posted Russian lies. Demonstrable lies. You never retracted them. That told me all I needed to know about your approach.

That was a black and white case of a war crime. You twisted yourself in knots to justify it.

[Filo]

According to experts Russia inly has a third of its high precision missiles left, it looks like Putin has used his box of fireworks before bonfire night, he’ll have to start using the old jumping jacks, and we all know they just go all over the place

[wilts rover]

And according to experts (maybe the same ones I dunno) Russia only has fully funtion kit & equipment to deploy 1/10th of the conscripts they called up.

Ukraine is getting stronger with more modern NATO equipment, now rushing lots of Air Defence systems there, as Russia gets weaker by not being able to replace their munitions.

I did see a stat the other day which said Ukraine has put into service more captured and re-purposed Russian tanks than the total number the British Army own.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I read in April that Russia was running out of ammo, morale, troops, tanks....

[danumdon]

It will only be a matter of time before the balance is tipped and the Russians are sending in their cannon fodder again  (2nd world war style) they will have nothing left but Soviet era munitions and any vodka drunk who can stand up straight for long enough to get drafted.

Can we expect the regime to do the unthinkable or even at this late stage are there people there with enough about them to stop Putin taking the world back into the stone age?

[Bristol Red Rover]

Can we expect the regime to do the unthinkable or even at this late stage are there people there with enough about them to stop Putin taking the world back into the stone age?

It's one of the tenents of fascism to create external fear to induce compliance.

[danumdon]

Can we expect the regime to do the unthinkable or even at this late stage are there people there with enough about them to stop Putin taking the world back into the stone age?

It's one of the tenents of fascism to create external fear to induce compliance.

That's one way to look at it, another is that the world will not be allowing Putin to profit from this escapade, whatever happens from here on in Putin will not be free to saviour the fruits of his demented brain.

[nightporter]

This is the sort of incident that starts wars. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63327999

[danumdon]

This is the sort of incident that starts wars. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63327999

"Luke Pollard, Labour's shadow defence minister, said: "This incident also acts as a serious reminder about the importance of avoiding escalation and miscalculation while continuing the UK's united support for Ukraine."

Is the Labour shadow advocating we desist from patrolling international airspace or just a reminder that he exists?

Because this sounds like a proper soundbite to justify a position that would not be his if he had the authority.

[Hounslowrover]

I think he means a miscalculation could be flying into Russian airspace by accident, that would certainly be problematic.

[BobG]

As Korean Air Lines flight 007 found out to its very expensive cost.

BobG

[danumdon]

We're talking about the RAF here, if they ended up flying in Russian airspace it would be for a reason, not a miscalculation !

What do you think we have been doing since the war, its the reason we are there in the first place and it happens more often then is made public.

[BobG]

The word was miscalculation. Anyone can do it. Korean Airlines 007 did just that.

BobG

[Colin C No.3]

Meanwhile Iran supplies sophisticated drones to Russia because Russia is allegedly running out of its own dated missiles.

As Western sanctions hit & hurt both regimes pragmatism has made them ‘uncomfortable bedfellows’.

Their growing ‘alliance’ should be a concern to all western countries.

Thank goodness we have our finger on the pulse on world events at this moment in time!

[SydneyRover]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

[mugnapper]

Meanwhile Iran supplies sophisticated drones to Russia because Russia is allegedly running out of its own dated missiles.

As Western sanctions hit & hurt both regimes pragmatism has made them ‘uncomfortable bedfellows’.

Their growing ‘alliance’ should be a concern to all western countries.

Thank goodness we have our finger on the pulse on world events at this moment in time!

Someone once said ' the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.
Possibly an ancient Chinese General or possibly one of the Kardashians.

[Sprotyrover]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

I just can't understand the mentality of someone selling his services
To a highly potential enemy of his own country!

[BobG]

Winston I do believe Mugnapper.

BobG

[Filo]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

I just can't understand the mentality of someone selling his services
To a highly potential enemy of his own country!

In my opinion they should be charged with Treason

[Axholme Lion]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

I just can't understand the mentality of someone selling his services
To a highly potential enemy of his own country!

In my opinion they should be charged with Treason

Why? Are we at war with China?

[mugnapper]

Winston I do believe Mugnapper.

BobG

Ray Winston? I think he's famous for saying 'You're only supposed to blow the bladdy doors off'!

[River Don]

Winston I do believe Mugnapper.

BobG

Ray Winston? I think he's famous for saying 'You're only supposed to blow the bladdy doors off'!

Michael Caine

[glosterred]

Winston I do believe Mugnapper.

BobG

Ray Winston? I think he's famous for saying 'You're only supposed to blow the bladdy doors off'!

Michael Caine

Not a lot of people know that

[Bentley Bullet]

Winston I do believe Mugnapper.

BobG

Ray Winston? I think he's famous for saying 'You're only supposed to blow the bladdy doors off'!

I thought it was what Jim Morrison said to Marianne Faithfull after catching her with Mick Jagger at a Glastonbury festival.

[tommy toes]

Ray Winston eh, he has such a range.
Him in Dr Zhivago 'Lara, you slaaaag'
Him in Star Wars 'Princess Leah you slaaag'
Him doing Shakespeare ' Juliet, you fackin slaaag'

[ravenrover]

Carrie you Slaaag

[SydneyRover]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

I just can't understand the mentality of someone selling his services
To a highly potential enemy of his own country!

In my opinion they should be charged with Treason

Why? Are we at war with China?

Britain, US & Australia conducts right of passage through the Taiwanese Straits and vis the Spratly Islands, if an 'incident' occurred it is possible that those boats may come under attack from ex RAF trained Chinese pilots.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Not to mention ex RAF training the Chinese, is it all down to money, is that where we are?

I just can't understand the mentality of someone selling his services
To a highly potential enemy of his own country!

In my opinion they should be charged with Treason

Why? Are we at war with China?

Britain, US & Australia conducts right of passage through the Taiwanese Straits and vis the Spratly Islands, if an 'incident' occurred it is possible that those boats may come under attack from ex RAF trained Chinese pilots.

If an incident occured? Like what? If there are potential incident issues then someone should be taking more care. If Chinese planes get drawn in then that's the fault of the incident and nothing to do with the training.

And then it should be noted the efforts the UK Gov goes to in order to woo China. Fine when it's profitting some fat cat but not when it trips up the geo politics games played out on China's border? Oh yeah, the US once again pushing borders far far away from its own ones.

[Not Now Kato]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/23/rt-presenter-says-just-drown-children-promotes-genocide-ukraine/