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Whatever. But I doubt that will change Brexiters minds.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 19, 2019, 10:59:24 pmWhatever. But I doubt that will change Brexiters minds.If they don't understand how it works in the first place, of course they won't change their mind.
Have YOU been told all the facts? That 2% only relates to votes on proposed laws that were passed.There are no official figures of how often the UK successfully opposed proposals or failed to get things it wanted.
Of course, you can't have a vote for every issue. Most decisions have to be made by the government and civil servants in every democratic society.That's democracy as we in the UK know it.Brexiters get agitated by unelected bureaucrats from the European Commission administering policy in the UK before our own politicians and civil servants implement them.
And the democracy you are advocating BB has been PROVEN to be corrupted. So, you're not a genuine advocate of democracy, quite the opposite in fact. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see that.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2019, 08:52:12 amHave YOU been told all the facts? That 2% only relates to votes on proposed laws that were passed.There are no official figures of how often the UK successfully opposed proposals or failed to get things it wanted. I see that you made a statement and then completely ducked my answer to it. So, here it is again, just for your benefit.... Now, are you going to admit you were wrong? Or are you going to ignore facts as usual? The more of your posts I read the more I think you're either a WUM or are deliberately Trolling. Whichever, it's quite clear that you know practically nothing about what democracy is!
BST. If you had a better track record in your predictions more of us with no common sense might believe you and maybe even support your hatred towards everyone you don't agree with.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 20, 2019, 10:54:07 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2019, 08:52:12 amHave YOU been told all the facts? That 2% only relates to votes on proposed laws that were passed.There are no official figures of how often the UK successfully opposed proposals or failed to get things it wanted. I see that you made a statement and then completely ducked my answer to it. So, here it is again, just for your benefit.... Now, are you going to admit you were wrong? Or are you going to ignore facts as usual? The more of your posts I read the more I think you're either a WUM or are deliberately Trolling. Whichever, it's quite clear that you know practically nothing about what democracy is!No, I can't, because There are no official figures! Besides, it's all about the principle.
Brexiters get agitated by unelected bureaucrats from the European Commission administering policy in the UK before our own politicians and civil servants implement them.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2019, 10:55:55 pmBST. If you had a better track record in your predictions more of us with no common sense might believe you and maybe even support your hatred towards everyone you don't agree with.Which predictions are those BB?The one where I predicted in 2010 that Austerity would lead to a decade of depressed growth and wages, and a lurch to the populist anti-immigrant Right? Or the one where I predicted Trump would be elected a year before the vote?Or the one where I predicted the exact outcome of the Scottish independence referendum?Or the countless times where I predicted that you would ignore facts put in from of you and come back with a daft ad hominem?Hatred of people who don't agree with me?Really?You REALLY think that?It's not hatred of people who don't agree with me you daft sod. It's bewilderment at people who won't engage with facts.Thing is, I KNOW how smart you are. Never doubted that. And I don't hate you for disagreeing with me. I just don't get your method of arguing. Which seems to consist of repeatedly asking the same questions, ignoring the answers then accusing people of being condescending.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 21, 2019, 12:16:34 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2019, 10:55:55 pmBST. If you had a better track record in your predictions more of us with no common sense might believe you and maybe even support your hatred towards everyone you don't agree with.Which predictions are those BB?The one where I predicted in 2010 that Austerity would lead to a decade of depressed growth and wages, and a lurch to the populist anti-immigrant Right? Or the one where I predicted Trump would be elected a year before the vote?Or the one where I predicted the exact outcome of the Scottish independence referendum?Or the countless times where I predicted that you would ignore facts put in from of you and come back with a daft ad hominem?Hatred of people who don't agree with me?Really?You REALLY think that?It's not hatred of people who don't agree with me you daft sod. It's bewilderment at people who won't engage with facts.Thing is, I KNOW how smart you are. Never doubted that. And I don't hate you for disagreeing with me. I just don't get your method of arguing. Which seems to consist of repeatedly asking the same questions, ignoring the answers then accusing people of being condescending.BST. I was thinking more of predictions that are on the subject of Brexit, such as the one about there being no food on the shelves by now.
You really thought that was a prediction rather than a deliberate over-exaggeration to make a point? It was deliberate scaremongering. Not one you'd invented, I admit, but one that that you'd jumped on the bandwagon of.
Sydney. What have food banks got to do with BST's comments? He claimed there would be no food on shops shelves by May this year!
BBAnd there's the irony.The one who REALLY thinks Leave voters are thick is Farage. After all, he plays up the anti-elite angle then assumes his supporters are too thick to get the discrepancy when 1/4 of his candidates have City of London or similar backgrounds. The one who REALLY thinks you're undemocratic is Farage. He assumes that he can ride a coach and horses through electoral law, and you won't give a f**k about it because you don't believe in democracy. The one who REALLY thinks you have no commonsense is Farage. Because when he's explaining about why it was OK for him to be bankrolled by a businessman to the tune of £400k for a Mayfair flat and a chauffeur driven Range Rover and first class flights to America at the same time as pocketing €9000/month plus expenses from the European Parliament, he says it was OK, because he was planning his life after politics. How thick must he think you are if he assumes you will not see through that one?!?