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Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 21, 2019, 03:51:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:49:34 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:44:12 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:42:55 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?And 17.4 million don't want no deal. They voted leave, not no deal.Therefore parliament should support TM's deal, problem solved. Why? They didn't vote for TM's deal.Because they voted to leave the EU on March, 29th and both Conservative and Liebour stood on a manifesto supporting leave.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:49:34 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:44:12 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:42:55 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?And 17.4 million don't want no deal. They voted leave, not no deal.Therefore parliament should support TM's deal, problem solved. Why? They didn't vote for TM's deal.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:44:12 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:42:55 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?And 17.4 million don't want no deal. They voted leave, not no deal.Therefore parliament should support TM's deal, problem solved.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:42:55 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?And 17.4 million don't want no deal. They voted leave, not no deal.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.
And I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:58:56 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 21, 2019, 03:51:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:49:34 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:44:12 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 21, 2019, 03:42:55 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 21, 2019, 03:18:59 pmAnd I'll say again because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Leaving with No Deal would be the biggest miscarriage of natural justice in our political history. Fortunately, it won't happen.In your opinion. Fortunately most of Britain disagree with you.17.4million isn't even a third of the population?And 17.4 million don't want no deal. They voted leave, not no deal.Therefore parliament should support TM's deal, problem solved. Why? They didn't vote for TM's deal.Because they voted to leave the EU on March, 29th and both Conservative and Liebour stood on a manifesto supporting leave. But they didn't vote for TM's deal. In fact, they really didn't know what they were voting for because it wasn't specified on the voting paper. Several options were openly promoted by the leave campaigns prior to the vote, none of which equate to anything like TM's deal. So suggesting they should simply support something they didn't vote for, without asking them, is rather silly. And there was no date specified on the ballot paper as the result couldn't have been pre-empted.
I just must ask you again and it may be third time lucky if you answerYou described the other day - MPs etc - wanting to ignore the Referendum Result as Traitorous b******s - and I asked if you meant the Tory MPs (mainly) who did not respect the 1976 Result or the 2016 oneI asked because I am sure you have read that the vote to Remain in 1976 was 66% v 34 % very roughlyIn 2016 the Vote was 52% v 48% to Leave very roughlyThat means the Majority in 1976 was around 8 Times bigger (to Remain) than 2016 (to Leave) but the 76 Result was never respected from then by (mainly) Tory MPs till they eventually got a Second ReferendumSo if we do get another Referendum it WILL make it best of 3 - so which are the traitorous Bs ?
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 10:59:22 amQuote from: Boomstick on March 21, 2019, 10:49:32 amQuote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.The remainers with this petition remind me of Hitler sat in his bunker with the Red Army knocking at the door insisting he will still win the war!It's getting a bit crowded in this bunker...... over 1 million in here now!
Quote from: Boomstick on March 21, 2019, 10:49:32 amQuote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.The remainers with this petition remind me of Hitler sat in his bunker with the Red Army knocking at the door insisting he will still win the war!
Quote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.
696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do so
Quote from: Pancho Regan on March 21, 2019, 03:00:23 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 10:59:22 amQuote from: Boomstick on March 21, 2019, 10:49:32 amQuote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.Means FA. 17.4 million when it counted though. Brexit is coming.The remainers with this petition remind me of Hitler sat in his bunker with the Red Army knocking at the door insisting he will still win the war!It's getting a bit crowded in this bunker...... over 1 million in here now!Website now "down for Maintenance". We know about it is says. Hope when it comes back the 1,090,000 people who have signed it are still there ! Cant think there would be any skulduggery wuld thereOh and just counted Leave means Leave leaving the Red Lion and there were 62
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 21, 2019, 10:59:22 amQuote from: Boomstick on March 21, 2019, 10:49:32 amQuote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.Means FA. 17.4 million when it counted though. Brexit is coming.The remainers with this petition remind me of Hitler sat in his bunker with the Red Army knocking at the door insisting he will still win the war!It's getting a bit crowded in this bunker...... over 1 million in here now!
Quote from: Boomstick on March 21, 2019, 10:49:32 amQuote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2019, 10:30:02 am 696,204 signatures on the Petition now to Revoke Article 50Site keeps crashing as around 4000 people a minute are adding their names. It takes 100,000 signatures to "request" Parliament to consider whether to debate it - and will be largely useless if they dont find time to decide whether to daebate it and / or dont find the time to do soLet's see if it gets anywhere near 17.5 million. If course we all know it won't. Pointless exercise.Means FA. 17.4 million when it counted though. Brexit is coming.The remainers with this petition remind me of Hitler sat in his bunker with the Red Army knocking at the door insisting he will still win the war!
The EU has agreed an extension to 22nd May conditional on the Deal being passed by Parliament. So there isn't much chance of an extension then!The options are narrowing to No Deal or Revoke.
The "end-game" here will be 30 Tory Europhiles (Soubry etc) having to make a choice between "no deal" or bringing down their own goverment. There will be twists and turns over the next few weeks, but that is what the final outcome will be based on.
Quote from: The Red Baron on March 21, 2019, 05:41:29 pmThe EU has agreed an extension to 22nd May conditional on the Deal being passed by Parliament. So there isn't much chance of an extension then!The options are narrowing to No Deal or Revoke.And as usual May has played a blinder by completely pissing off just about everyone in the Commons 24 hours beforehand. That's how to get support!
Quote from: TommyC on January 17, 2019, 10:20:24 pmThe "end-game" here will be 30 Tory Europhiles (Soubry etc) having to make a choice between "no deal" or bringing down their own goverment. There will be twists and turns over the next few weeks, but that is what the final outcome will be based on.I'm just going to leave this here from back in January. BST said I was talking bullshit. Deal is rejected for a third time next week. Either the EU offer a longer extension or alternatively we find ourselves heading for no deal. Under those circumstances a vote of no confidence in the government will be tabled by Corbyn. And then it boils down to how those pre-reman Tories vote. Do they bring down their own government or do they allow no deal.
Take your pick TRBShe's either away with the fairies, or she is the worst bluffer in history.
Bet that's been a fun discussion...https://mobile.twitter.com/adamfleming/status/1108769995276861440
Isn't it the opposite Billy? She has been bluffing for 3 years that No Deal is an option. Now when her deal is set to fail it appears that the bluff wasn't a bluff but is actually what she is set on happening now.It's in this situation that Tommy's scenario comes to pass. If her deals fails next week and nothing else has been put in place before it comes to pass, the only - the only - way that parliament can stop a no deal is to call a vote of confidence.
Does 80% of the Tory Party membership want No Deal help with your question TRB?