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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 07, 2019, 08:21:44 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 07, 2019, 08:19:30 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 07, 2019, 08:13:38 pmBecause free movement of workers is integral to being in the Single Market. Every person in the EU has the right to move to other EU countries to work and set up residence. Abrogating that right automatically puts you outside the SM and would badly damage our economy.We CAN refuse entry to people who are legally undesirable or are moving with no intention of working.By the way, both Norway and Switzerland buy into free movement rules because of the economic advantages that accrue from the resultant tie ins with the EU economy. But when we voted to leave the EU we voted to leave the single market. If that's your end point, why the f**k did you ask me that question in the first place?It's almost as if you're not really interested in discussing things like a grown up and just prefer dicking about.What I meant to add was it was because free movement of workers is integral to being in the Single Market why we voted to leave.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 07, 2019, 08:19:30 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 07, 2019, 08:13:38 pmBecause free movement of workers is integral to being in the Single Market. Every person in the EU has the right to move to other EU countries to work and set up residence. Abrogating that right automatically puts you outside the SM and would badly damage our economy.We CAN refuse entry to people who are legally undesirable or are moving with no intention of working.By the way, both Norway and Switzerland buy into free movement rules because of the economic advantages that accrue from the resultant tie ins with the EU economy. But when we voted to leave the EU we voted to leave the single market. If that's your end point, why the f**k did you ask me that question in the first place?It's almost as if you're not really interested in discussing things like a grown up and just prefer dicking about.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 07, 2019, 08:13:38 pmBecause free movement of workers is integral to being in the Single Market. Every person in the EU has the right to move to other EU countries to work and set up residence. Abrogating that right automatically puts you outside the SM and would badly damage our economy.We CAN refuse entry to people who are legally undesirable or are moving with no intention of working.By the way, both Norway and Switzerland buy into free movement rules because of the economic advantages that accrue from the resultant tie ins with the EU economy. But when we voted to leave the EU we voted to leave the single market.
Because free movement of workers is integral to being in the Single Market. Every person in the EU has the right to move to other EU countries to work and set up residence. Abrogating that right automatically puts you outside the SM and would badly damage our economy.We CAN refuse entry to people who are legally undesirable or are moving with no intention of working.By the way, both Norway and Switzerland buy into free movement rules because of the economic advantages that accrue from the resultant tie ins with the EU economy.
Is that a question for Billy or me?
Ah, you mean a second referendum. A typical example of a bloke who knows what he wants and is crying about it.I see what you mean.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 07, 2019, 11:12:36 pmAh, you mean a second referendum. A typical example of a bloke who knows what he wants and is crying about it.I see what you mean.So you just ignore the numerous times I've said I'd take a Norway-type deal?I don't know what you get out of this, but I truly hope it's worth it.
The Tory right-wing rejected the deal because of the backstop agreement. They wanted to leave but didn't think the deal was right. The Remainers, on the other hand, wanted to reject everything in order to have a second referendum.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 07, 2019, 11:15:57 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 07, 2019, 11:12:36 pmAh, you mean a second referendum. A typical example of a bloke who knows what he wants and is crying about it.I see what you mean.So you just ignore the numerous times I've said I'd take a Norway-type deal?I don't know what you get out of this, but I truly hope it's worth it.Isn't it funny how you didn't agree with Farage at the time he suggested a Norway type agreement!
I still believe that the UK COULD be better off outside of the EU. However, it absolutely sickens me to the core that this issue has become hijacked by the Tory right. When I voted to leave in 2016 never for one moment did I believe that it would eventually lead to BJ becoming PM and his lunatic pals getting their hands on power. When I voted to leave I expected a sensible withdrawal where we would maintain close economic ties with the EU whilst withdrawing from the political influence it has. Unfortunately it's turned into a bloodbath. Who's at fault? As with most things, blame doesn't lay with one side. Remain supporting MP's would have voted down any agreement that the PM had come back with. Indeed, very soon after the referendum I heard an MP on the radio state, categorically, that they would use Parliament to stop Brexit. Full stop. On the other end of the scale, the hard Brexit MPs didn't want any agreement. They want a complete withdrawal from the EU with no compromise whatsoever and they're also savvy enough to use this to get power in the Tory party which, as BST correctly points out, is the real reason behind all of this.