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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: no eyed deer on July 18, 2019, 06:16:19 pm
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I would expect hes going to sign at least 4 players that are capable for starting in the first team.
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I think it will be Ben sheaf
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Did we sign him not Darren.
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I have a feeling it might be Glen Middleton
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His signing will possibly define him. He should have good contacts that will hopefully come through for him
I’m guessing Middleton. The desk seems quality for Rangers
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I hope it is Middleton, but according to some reports today, Coventry are now fancying their chances of landing him.
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If Gerrard is a man to his word he will come here as he agreed to him coming here in the first place
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If Gerrard is a man to his word he will come here as he agreed to him coming here in the first place
Dead right Dave, but how do we know if DM wants him? and how long will Gerrard be prepared to wait?
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Well no one else is really pushing for him are they
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And you could argue that he's not DM's signing as contact was already made before his appointment.
His first signing is likely to be his assistant. Other than that, no eye dear!
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Whoever it is won’t be till next Monday at the earliest
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Apart from the signings already in the pipeline and that’s only one , DM hasn’t even hinted at any had he ?
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And you could argue that he's not DM's signing as contact was already made before his appointment.
His first signing is likely to be his assistant. Other than that, no eye dear!
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Well no one else is really pushing for him are they
Coventry are Dave.
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Well no one else is really pushing for him are they
Coventry are Dave.
Cov have money due from a sell on clause - so can also go the extra yard - money wise :mad:
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If Gerrard is a man to his word he will come here as he agreed to him coming here in the first place
we can’t expect Gerrard to wait forever
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I don't like assuming anything but you'd think if DM & GB met on Wednesday and decided to go ahead with the Middleton move, we would know by now, unless the agreement wasn't as clear cut as we thought.
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I don't like assuming anything but you'd think if DM & GB met on Wednesday and decided to go ahead with the Middleton move, we would know by now, unless the agreement wasn't as clear cut as we thought.
Business as usual for DRFC “Say nowt” !
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Patience is a virtue, and a card game. 😎
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Patience is a virtue, and a card game. 😎
Patience (play)
1998 play by Jason Sherman
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I don't like assuming anything but you'd think if DM & GB met on Wednesday and decided to go ahead with the Middleton move, we would know by now, unless the agreement wasn't as clear cut as we thought.
Yes the club(s) May know, as you would think all sorts of player movements are being discussed but nowt gets announced until a deal is done..
That’s fine by me..
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Patience is a virtue, and a card game. 😎
Time (thyme) and Tide is a herb and a washing up powder.
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I don't like assuming anything but you'd think if DM & GB met on Wednesday and decided to go ahead with the Middleton move, we would know by now, unless the agreement wasn't as clear cut as we thought.
To be honest Baz I can't see it happening. My understanding is that DM has a long list of potential candidates which he's working his way through.
I would rule Middleton out at this point in time.
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Rule him out altogether or rule him out as the first signing, SM? Do you know if DM isn't keen or that Middleton is going elsewhere?
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My understanding is that DM isn't that keen. He has a long, long, long list that he feels would be better for us.
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Fair enough. Can't argue with that, I have faith that he can build his own squad.
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To be fair not really seen that much of him but if he was any good surely Rangers would start him In that tin pot league?!
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Can't say I'm disappointed. We were paying/set to pay a reasonable amount of money for the fella. If DM feels this is better spend on an asset we would 'own', then I can't complain in theory. Quality wise it may be a different story.
The hope I have is that DM (and Parrish, if true) have a good understanding of the u23 market and we are able to plunder (I like that word) the free agent market at that level to find the little nuggets to sell on for fees.
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Coventry sold Chaplin to Dingles for a million so understand there interest in Middleton
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My understanding is that DM isn't that keen. He has a long, long, long list that he feels would be better for us.
SM - a little while back, possibly when interviews began, you said something along the lines of "I'd be shocked if the new manager didn't want any of the players lined up". That suggested to me that we had some top drawer players lined up. Do you still think that - are you shocked? - or do you think that now Moore can do even better?
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With that little bit of info, SM, does that mean any new incomings are going to take longer than planned?
If so, we’re cutting it a bit fine, imho of course.
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But also plenty may be going on behind the scenes right now, to get his players in ASAP.?
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Middleton was going to be a loan player on the list. SM you said before the list had permanent and loans have all players on list been discarded.
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With Middleton, he was reported as being a winger. Now I haven't got a clue what type of player he is whether he's a winger with nobs on and scores goals etc. What I do know is Matty Blair is one of the best wingers in this league and deserves to have a full season in his best position.
With that in mind, I'm not too bothered about Middleton.
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There is absolutely no way Matty Blair is one of the best wingers in this division
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One thing's for certain, we're going to need at least 4 more signings, and possibly more. I agree with everyone who's said that the result against Halifax was irrelevant. What is slightly concerning however, is the DFP report on the game suggesting that we really struggled against a team that looked a lot better than us.
I trust in DM, but the bloke's really got his work cut out with the squad he's inherited.
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With Middleton, he was reported as being a winger. Now I haven't got a clue what type of player he is whether he's a winger with nobs on and scores goals etc. What I do know is Matty Blair is one of the best wingers in this league and deserves to have a full season in his best position.
With that in mind, I'm not too bothered about Middleton.
Matty Blair is no where near one of the best wide players in league 1. Wide players like Mcgeady, Maddison and Lowe are a totally different level to Blair. A handy utility play to have as he covers a few positions
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Well, I grant you that certainly McGeedy is a better class but should he be playing higher than league One?
Matty keeps it simple, more often than not gets past his man and puts good crosses in. Scores occasionally. Apart from a few more goals (which he is capable of when in his natural position) what more do you want?
Anyway, just my opinion.
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Well, I grant you that certainly McGeedy is a better class but should he be playing higher than league One?
Matty keeps it simple, more often than not gets past his man and puts good crosses in. Scores occasionally. Apart from a few more goals (which he is capable of when in his natural position) what more do you want?
Anyway, just my opinion.
If he is playing in a forward position then for a top 6 side, I want double figures for goals and assists. Blair is not capable of reaching those figures. Like I said, he’s a handy squad player but we need much better quality if we’re hoping to challenge for promotion
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My understanding is that DM isn't that keen. He has a long, long, long list that he feels would be better for us.
SM - a little while back, possibly when interviews began, you said something along the lines of "I'd be shocked if the new manager didn't want any of the players lined up". That suggested to me that we had some top drawer players lined up. Do you still think that - are you shocked? - or do you think that now Moore can do even better?
He's signed one of those lined up hasn't he? I'm surprised he hasn't gone for Middleton, but as I've said previously, he has a very long list and he believes he can do better. So, all options are now on the table. Some of this is still fluid, as it always is, depending on outgoings etc.
But, the positive to take out of this, is that DM says he can do better and wants to take his time to show that he can. He's one determined cookie, and that's good for all of us.
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With that little bit of info, SM, does that mean any new incomings are going to take longer than planned?
If so, we’re cutting it a bit fine, imho of course.
I would say so.
But you may think he's cutting it fine, he certainly doesn't.
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He’s not cutting it fine if he’s only looking at bringing one maybe two in.
But like the majority I feel we could do with 4 or 5 players and this being the case it’s going to be hard to integrate them into the side with only a week or so to go
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McCann was keeping his squad numbers down to 18 plus loans . So what’s changed ? the available budget won’t have ! With Marquis running down his contract , it would be hard to see a signing coming in when he hasn’t moved on . A quality loan is more likely and it would help if the club spoke about its intentions as I'm sure they are still playing catch up where a second to DM is concerned.
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He’s not cutting it fine if he’s only looking at bringing one maybe two in.
But like the majority I feel we could do with 4 or 5 players and this being the case it’s going to be hard to integrate them into the side with only a week or so to My understanding is that DM isn't that keen. He has a long, long, long list that he feels would be better for us.
SM - a little while back, possibly when interviews began, you said something along the lines of "I'd be shocked if the new manager didn't want any of the players lined up". That suggested to me that we had some top drawer players lined up. Do you still think that - are you shocked? - or do you think that now Moore can do even better?
He's signed one of those lined up hasn't he? I'm surprised he hasn't gone for Middleton, but as I've said previously, he has a very long list and he believes he can do better. So, all options are now on the table. Some of this is still fluid, as it always is, depending on outgoings etc.
But, the positive to take out of this, is that DM says he can do better and wants to take his time to show that he can. He's one determined cookie, and that's good for all of us.
If like a new previous poster said, nothing wrong with taking his time if we only need 1 or 2 players but we currently only have 14/15 first team players. This includes the likes of May (who many don’t think is good enough) and Gomez and Jones (unproven). To challenge for the top 6 we need another 4/5 good quality players. The season starts in 2 weeks. I agree that you don’t want to just be signing players for the sake of it but DM really needs to get cracking on with bringing players in. It’s hard to expect a team to start to gel in a week.
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My understanding is that DM isn't that keen. He has a long, long, long list that he feels would be better for us.
SM - a little while back, possibly when interviews began, you said something along the lines of "I'd be shocked if the new manager didn't want any of the players lined up". That suggested to me that we had some top drawer players lined up. Do you still think that - are you shocked? - or do you think that now Moore can do even better?
He's signed one of those lined up hasn't he? I'm surprised he hasn't gone for Middleton, but as I've said previously, he has a very long list and he believes he can do better. So, all options are now on the table. Some of this is still fluid, as it always is, depending on outgoings etc.
But, the positive to take out of this, is that DM says he can do better and wants to take his time to show that he can. He's one determined cookie, and that's good for all of us.
Have u heard if there’s been any proper enquires for Marquis and Whiteman yet.
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McCann was keeping his squad numbers down to 18 plus loans . So what’s changed ? the available budget won’t have ! With Marquis running down his contract , it would be hard to see a signing coming in when he hasn’t moved on . A quality loan is more likely and it would help if the club spoke about its intentions as I'm sure they are still playing catch up where a second to DM is concerned.
Please tell me where you are getting your info on our budget.?
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McGeedy is happy being a big fish in a small pond
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I posted earlier about DM not pursuing the Middleton signing. That was in response to the speculation and felt I could offer something to the debate, and certainly the positive thoights of our new manager. It doesn't surprise me that certain posters will still find the negative in that.
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McCann was keeping his squad numbers down to 18 plus loans . So what’s changed ? the available budget won’t have ! With Marquis running down his contract , it would be hard to see a signing coming in when he hasn’t moved on . A quality loan is more likely and it would help if the club spoke about its intentions as I'm sure they are still playing catch up where a second to DM is concerned.
Please tell me where you are getting your info on our budget.?
The budget will not have changed only its priorities . Remember some of the budget has already been used on the two fullbacks and the loan.
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Shocked that Moore isn't interested in Middleton but if he thinks that there is better available out there then he has my backing.
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I won't believe it till I'm sitting in it.
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It's all right having a big long list of players, but I agree with others that we do need some quite substantial new blood at the club and for them to have a few kick abouts on the park before the season starts (i.e next week)
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McCann was keeping his squad numbers down to 18 plus loans . So what’s changed ? the available budget won’t have ! With Marquis running down his contract , it would be hard to see a signing coming in when he hasn’t moved on . A quality loan is more likely and it would help if the club spoke about its intentions as I'm sure they are still playing catch up where a second to DM is concerned.
Please tell me where you are getting your info on our budget.?
The budget will not have changed only its priorities . Remember some of the budget has already been used on the two fullbacks and the loan.
You're such a wise owl. We're doomed and it's all the boards fault isn't it!? When there's sunshine, there's always a cloud on the horizon!
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Donny Baz.. what do you think the future holds Sherlock ??
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It's all right having a big long list of players, but I agree with others that we do need some quite substantial new blood at the club and for them to have a few kick abouts on the park before the season starts (i.e next week)
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is at least one behind closed doors practice match in the week leading up to the Gillingham game..
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Donny Baz.. what do you think the future holds Sherlock ??
To be honest, I don't really give a shit.
All I do is think about the away game at Drill Field, Northwich Victoria, when we got beat 2-1 to realise how we are now compared to then.
I'm easily pleased but don't suffer with blind faith. It's about time you realised our football club is a good football club.
Veiled criticism is just a waste of time and energy especially when your negative assumptions are based on pure guesswork and the misguided belief that things were always better in the past.
I choose to be positive, you choose to be negative.
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Someone on twitter posting that Middleton was at Cantley Park yesterday!
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Donny Baz.. what do you think the future holds Sherlock ??
To be honest, I don't really give a shit.
All I do is think about the away game at Drill Field, Northwich Victoria, when we got beat 2-1 to realise how we are now compared to then.
I'm easily pleased but don't suffer with blind faith. It's about time you realised our football club is a good football club.
Veiled criticism is just a waste of time and energy especially when your negative assumptions are based on pure guesswork and the misguided belief that things were always better in the past.
I choose to be positive, you choose to be negative.
I was at the same game and enjoyed the conference days.
Not all see through your tinted glasses and if I didn't like the club I wouldn't go week in week out. For me it's more about enjoying the game than winning.
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I think we are in a good place generally as a club - we have a good board and what looks like a good managerial appointment. We’ve been in much darker places, as Baz has mentioned, but when the board are talking publicly about ambitions of Championship football and giving it a good go when we are there then it’s only natural that fans are going to share that ambition and be more forward looking than backward looking.
I don’t think there’s any point criticising recruitment or the board right now but it’s understandable that people are getting a bit twitchy. The positive consensus has been “don’t panic, plenty of time left yet” all summer but there are now only 2 weeks until the window shuts and to have a genuine tilt at promotion we are probably at least 3 or 4 players short of where we need to be. We can and hopefully will get players in but it’s still probably going to be a nervous couple of weeks.
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The window for league 1 and 2 does not shut till end of August. Although we need players before then if we are going to aim for promotion.
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I am sure they will be in in good time, DM will not be rushed as he is a strong and determined man with many good friends in the game that will see him through
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Someone on twitter posting that Middleton was at Cantley Park yesterday!
Maybe Harry saying hello to a few old mates!
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I posted earlier about DM not pursuing the Middleton signing. That was in response to the speculation and felt I could offer something to the debate, and certainly the positive thoights of our new manager. It doesn't surprise me that certain posters will still find the negative in that.
Im quite pleased with DM thinking he can get better than Middleton,I've got a gut feeling Middleton may start well,but his performances could well drop off through the season.Just my opinion,I may well be totally wrong.If he goes Coventry,I will be interested to see how he does.
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A reminder to one and all - we signed Herbie Kane on 2 August last year and we played our first game of the season on 4 August.
Acquiring quality players and them integrating into the side does not necessarily need a long lead time.
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Before the start of the season we need another CH commanding, if we are playing 4 2 3 1. Then we need two out of the three behind the striker. Preferably who can score and create.
Before the transfer window closes we need another goal keeper and a striker similar to John as we haven’t got another hold up centre-forward.
So I make that Five before the transfer window closes. If we can off load 2/3 aswell that would help.
If John goes or Ben goes they will have to be replaced like for like..
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The one positive that I believe we can take from today and Tuesdays games is that hopefully Moore will now realise that we need to bring in 4 or 5 new quality players to help improve this team and we need them sharpish
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I don’t know why Whiteman isn’t playing today but I have heard that Wigan and Hull are both very interested in him
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The result is irrelevant really but nothing changed for me, from when McCann left. We need the same players now as we needed then as above.
We also need to try and get rid of the transfer listed ones.
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Bit worrying , but still only a friendly , my own opinion but I think we need at least 5 or 6 players and that's just at a minimum?
3 midfieldes, at least 2 striker wide players , and a center half
And we need to be looking at a creative player to eventually replace copps?
Forgot we had sheaf , but not seen enough of him ? But guessing he will fight with Whiteman for his position?Gomez seems more like a development player?
Think we need more goal threat , creative midfielders?
Moved this to here bit more relevant thread
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A reminder to one and all - we signed Herbie Kane on 2 August last year and we played our first game of the season on 4 August.
Acquiring quality players and them integrating into the side does not necessarily need a long lead time.
As has been mentioned previously this is fine if we only need one or two additions. But if we’re adding 4/5 players then it’s no good all them rocking up a few days before the season stats
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Let's see what the boss says. I don't think we have an immediate need for 4 or 5 players to be ready for the home game v Gillingham.
We may need a bit more on the attacking front to provide the same goal threat that came from Wilks. I'm confident Sadlier will contribute but whether it's enough to be regarded as a goalscorer, I'm not sure so depending on how DM sees it, he'll be more likely a left side attacking midfielder. May might come good but yes there's doubts that he can coomand a starting berth.
Midfield. Whiteman, Sheaf, Crawford, Sadlier, Coppinger, Blair, Gomez. That's not an unreasonable group to choose from.
Defence. Yes, Anderson and Wright need back up.
We will need perhaps a bit more quality back up to make up the first choice 18 man squad but our immediate need isn't that much as it stands.
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Think we need a more creative player than we have at the minute, a forward and a defender I would hope before the season starts
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In my opinion what we need at the very least.
Replacement for Butler
Replacement for Downing
Replacement for Rowe
Replacement for Wilks
Another striker because if Marquis gets injured we are screwed
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The window for league 1 and 2 does not shut till end of August. Although we need players before then if we are going to aim for promotion.
So the Premier League and the Championship closes before the end of August? If so then we should be hearing very soon if we’re signing / loans from anywhere in that direction.
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No, the Premiership and Championship window closes at the beginning of August.
They can ship out but not have any incoming signings (I think).
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No, the Premiership and Championship window closes at the beginning of August.
They can ship out but not have any incoming signings (I think).
That’s correct, premier league and championship clubs transfer window to buy players shuts on the 8th of August. League 1 & 2 window shuts on the 1st of September. Premier league and championship clubs can still sell/loan players though after their window shuts
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
That’s decent enough, the problem is that it’s weaker than the side that finished last season (as things stand - Sheaf could turn out to be better than Kane, the full backs could have a huge impact and Sadlier could really progress) and there’s not a lot beyond that XI.
I hope (and expect - have plenty of faith!) for 3-4 new players to challenge for a place ahead of any one of those players by the time the season kicks off.
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
You're right Chris, not bad at all, but for promotion, at least 4 players short.
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
That side is mid table at best
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Don’t think we have to worry about the defence. Being a quality centre half like he was , he’ll build from the back and take it from there. Hopefully his No 2 will be more attacking orientated
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
The defence is the best part of the team but Downing and Butler were better.
Midfield Whiteman is the best Sheaf as not got the same qualities has Kane.
Blair again as not got the same qualities as (Rowe scores goals)
Coppinger is another year older will it start catching up.
Sadlier does not have the same qualities as (Wilks scores goals,faster and physically stronger)
Marquis will he still be here if he is he will score but not as many because the quality in the rest of the side is less. Not enough goals from the rest of the side either.
So mid table at best and not enough quality behind that eleven to improve.
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I don’t think starting XI as it stands is bad at all.
Lawlor
James
Anderson
Wright
Halliday
Whiteman
Sheaf
Blair
Copps
Sadlier
Marquis
The defence is the best part of the team but Downing and Butler were better.
Midfield Whiteman is the best Sheaf as not got the same qualities has Kane.
Blair again as not got the same qualities as (Rowe scores goals)
Coppinger is another year older will it start catching up.
Sadlier does not have the same qualities as (Wilks scores goals,faster and physically stronger)
Marquis will he still be here if he is he will score but not as many because the quality in the rest of the side is less. Not enough goals from the rest of the side either.
So mid table at best and not enough quality behind that eleven to improve.
I agree with that.
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The other thing we were led to believe by GB and SM we had a good list of players waiting not just Middleton. It was said permanent as well as loans. We wouldn’t want Kane it was said and would be aiming for promotion.
Therefore if DM wants his own players then let’s hope between the manager and Gavin they get them signed as quick as possible or does it all rely on John going first.
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Blair is a totally different player to Rowe and I would imagine Blair would be in the front 3.
Rowe played a very very small part last season so replacing him isn’t something that we drastically need to do.
We don’t need to replace butler and downing, one good centre half would be enough.
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Just read Moores latest interview in the free press from today about transfers. He says he hopes to add 1 or 2 new players to the squad to help it, but only if the right players become available... Darren we need much more than 1 or 2. We are facing a season around mid table if he thinks that’s all we need.
It then says we are looking at offering Will Atkinson a short term contract. This is a lad who couldn’t get in the starting 11 at Mansfield last season.
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Blair is a totally different player to Rowe and I would imagine Blair would be in the front 3.
Rowe played a very very small part last season so replacing him isn’t something that we drastically need to do.
We don’t need to replace butler and downing, one good centre half would be enough.
Rowe scored more goals per minutes played than any other midfield player so his goals need replacing. Kane’s goals from midfield need replacing. I’m not comparing Blair to Rowe either but if we want a side aiming for promotion he not a front three or three behind a striker either, good squad player.
Not saying we need a replacement for both Downing and Butler, infact if GM had given him a decent years contract he would still be here. But we do need a CH who is a leader and come straight into the first team.
Like Retdon1 said we need more than 1 or 2 players don’t want squad players. Again were we, are we relying on John going to allow us to bring in the quality we needed and still need.
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How DM blends this group will be the key to our season, but we do need extra.
Rather than just saying we need xyz players, why not imagine you have 100 units of cash left on top of current expenditure between now and the end of the season, how would you invest that think of wages not buying, and including loans.
I'd spend 25 of it on an experienced central playmaking boss of a midfielder, in the realm of Wellens, and 30 on a forward either similar to Wilkes, or compromising a bit of his pace for height.
Experience also needed at the back, so 23 there. Someone like Butler/Jones.
That would leave 22 for Jan.
There's a risk in all that if we get injuries, but if you're aiming high with limited funds I don't think there's an option not to risk.
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Not seen that interview myself, but if this is the case then I think we all need to consider this coming season as one of consolidation (at best) with the aim being a tilt at promotion in 20/21. Personally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with that given how McCann left us. It might be a far more bitter pill for other posters to swallow though!
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Just read Moores latest interview in the free press from today about transfers. He says he hopes to add 1 or 2 new players to the squad to help it, but only if the right players become available... Darren we need much more than 1 or 2. We are facing a season around mid table if he thinks that’s all we need.
It then says we are looking at offering Will Atkinson a short term contract. This is a lad who couldn’t get in the starting 11 at Mansfield last season.
That is depressing. He sounded like we won't be adding another CB either. We won't be anywhere near as strong as last season at this rate and the only chance we have of the play offs is if the quality of the league has weakened compared to last season which I believe it has.
Losing friendlies doesn't bother me. Not strengthening certain areas does.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-darren-moore-provides-transfer-update-following-grimsby-defeat-485635
This is the report DM is talking adding 1 or 2 to the attacking end of the pitch if the right players become available the cutting edge is not good enough. So at the moment we are not looking for a CH it appears. Not giving a year equivalent contract to AB becomes more criminal by GM his judgement was wrong.
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One possible interpretation of that article is that the aim is to have those attacking players in before the opening game (immediate) and then midfield and defence reinforcements hopefully before the end of the window (2 September)
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One possible interpretation of that article is that the aim is to have those attacking players in before the opening game (immediate) and then midfield and defence reinforcements hopefully before the end of the window (2 September)
That’s why said at the moment we are not looking for a CH. Let’s hope it does change when circumstances change.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-darren-moore-provides-transfer-update-following-grimsby-defeat-485635
This is the report DM is talking adding 1 or 2 to the attacking end of the pitch if the right players become available the cutting edge is not good enough. So at the moment we are not looking for a CH it appears. Not giving a year equivalent contract to AB becomes more criminal by GM his judgement was wrong.
Sorry that deduction doesn’t make sense..
Sure, the focus of the report is adding one or two attacking players, but nowhere does it say we are not looking at more defenders etc.. just because it doesn’t say we are, doesn’t mean we are not.
Also, regardless of who the players are, we have let go is it 8 players including all the loanees, and signed 4 plus two of our loanees returning.. so two players coming in balances the numbers.?
IMHO we need one more centre half and a pacy attacker as a minimum..
More if any other players leave:.
Ideally we would bring in another 4 as I would like to see two new centre halves, a utility midfielder and a pacy forward..
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IDM Darren said
Darren Moore admitted afterwards that his side lacked a cutting edge and, after spending the first ten days in the job assessing his squad, is now likely to press ahead with plans to add to his attacking options.
“We could do with one or two more bodies in there to bolster it a little bit more,” said Moore.
So it’s players at the top end of the pitch in the three behind a striker.
The point I made about AB if we had kept him for another year we wouldn’t have look for another CH, at this moment.
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Not sure you can count two returning loan players as a comparison to the players we’ve lost.
With the funds we keep being told we have them we shouldn’t be offering players like will Atkinson short term deals, that just reeks of cutting your cloth.
We’re currently saving wages on
Marosi
Andrew
Mason
Rowe
Mandevile
Lund
Butler
Plus whatever we were paying for Kane, Wilks and downing.
We’ve now signed a young midfielder and two full backs, so we should have a hefty amount of funds available to re-build our squad.
We were told we had a number of exciting signings lined up yet we’re now considering offering will Atkinson a short term deal?
Doesn’t add up
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Maybe ‘short term deal’ means to the end of the window, and is insurance against injuries to defenders while we take all of the window to get the right ones in permanently?
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IDM Darren said
Darren Moore admitted afterwards that his side lacked a cutting edge and, after spending the first ten days in the job assessing his squad, is now likely to press ahead with plans to add to his attacking options.
“We could do with one or two more bodies in there to bolster it a little bit more,” said Moore.
So it’s players at the top end of the pitch in the three behind a striker.
The point I made about AB if we had kept him for another year we wouldn’t have look for another CH, at this moment.
Yes, I read it too, but omitting to mention a need to bring in defenders/midfielders doesn’t mean we are not looking..
I interpret that report as looking at attacking options only..
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And there is still no assistant manager. What the hell is going on?
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Not sure you can count two returning loan players as a comparison to the players we’ve lost.
With the funds we keep being told we have them we shouldn’t be offering players like will Atkinson short term deals, that just reeks of cutting your cloth.
We’re currently saving wages on
Marosi
Andrew
Mason
Rowe
Mandevile
Lund
Butler
Plus whatever we were paying for Kane, Wilks and downing.
We’ve now signed a young midfielder and two full backs, so we should have a hefty amount of funds available to re-build our squad.
We were told we had a number of exciting signings lined up yet we’re now considering offering will Atkinson a short term deal?
Doesn’t add up
Why don’t we wait and see what happens with signings and how the team subsequently performs.?
Let me make it explicitly clear that that doesn’t mean I believe we have sufficient players yet, as I think we don’t, but it’s a bit daft to pull to shreds every statement the club makes to say “you said this but then didn’t do it”..
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And there is still no assistant manager. What the hell is going on?
How many days ago was it thenapprahnwas made.?
Why should anything be “going on”..?
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IDM Darren said
Darren Moore admitted afterwards that his side lacked a cutting edge and, after spending the first ten days in the job assessing his squad, is now likely to press ahead with plans to add to his attacking options.
“We could do with one or two more bodies in there to bolster it a little bit more,” said Moore.
So it’s players at the top end of the pitch in the three behind a striker.
The point I made about AB if we had kept him for another year we wouldn’t have look for another CH, at this moment.
Yes, I read it too, but omitting to mention a need to bring in defenders/midfielders doesn’t mean we are not looking..
I interpret that report as looking at attacking options only..
But I did say at the moment we are not looking for a CH.
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And I don’t necessarily agree..
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And I don’t necessarily agree..
Your choice.
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Not sure you can count two returning loan players as a comparison to the players we’ve lost.
With the funds we keep being told we have them we shouldn’t be offering players like will Atkinson short term deals, that just reeks of cutting your cloth.
We’re currently saving wages on
Marosi
Andrew
Mason
Rowe
Mandevile
Lund
Butler
Plus whatever we were paying for Kane, Wilks and downing.
We’ve now signed a young midfielder and two full backs, so we should have a hefty amount of funds available to re-build our squad.
We were told we had a number of exciting signings lined up yet we’re now considering offering will Atkinson a short term deal?
Doesn’t add up
Why don’t we wait and see what happens with signings and how the team subsequently performs.?
Let me make it explicitly clear that that doesn’t mean I believe we have sufficient players yet, as I think we don’t, but it’s a bit daft to pull to shreds every statement the club makes to say “you said this but then didn’t do it”..
I’m not pulling apart statements the club have made, but they explicitly said we had a list of players ready to sign. I agreed that when Moore was appointed he should be the person to decide upon these players.
But we’ve signed one player on loan and now he’s saying if we can find available players we will do our best to sign them.
Gavin said last week we could still sign Middleton, we’re lacking at the top end of the pitch so players like him would be just what we need.
If we do only sign one or two players then we’re only a couple of injuries away from a very poor starting 11
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It’s all getting a bit worrying, bodies need to come in sharpish, atthe moment we look like weare going to struggle
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Just read Moores latest interview in the free press from today about transfers. He says he hopes to add 1 or 2 new players to the squad to help it, but only if the right players become available... Darren we need much more than 1 or 2. We are facing a season around mid table if he thinks that’s all we need.
It then says we are looking at offering Will Atkinson a short term contract. This is a lad who couldn’t get in the starting 11 at Mansfield last season.
“If the right players become available”.
So much for having a queue of players waiting to sign for us.
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It’s all getting a bit worrying, bodies need to come in sharpish, atthe moment we look like weare going to struggle
McCann's departure has upset the transfer plans . DM is been given respect of over seeing the plans and it’s taking longer than it should . Players who may have been approached will look elsewhere now if Rovers haven’t followed up in good time. Rovers are not famed for buying over priced players in rash hurry , so it’s loans and or out of contract players .
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Doesn’t take long does it. Let’s just wait and see and support the team/club
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Doesn’t take long does it. Let’s just wait and see and support the team/club
I agree - grown men continually wetting themselves about anything they perceive as negative. Get a grip and wait...
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Some of you take things too literally and if things don't happen immediately you infer that you've been misled. It's like you can't wait to jump on the clubs back.
'One or Two' is a phrase and could easily mean 2 or 3 in his mind. The good news is he's recognised the same as we have where we need to strengthen. He's already on the case. It's likely that there maybe 'one or two' players that he's yet to be convinced by but wants to give them every chance.
I'm sorry but no manager is going to give you specific details of likely incoming or outgoings.
None of us are in a position at the moment to criticise as we have no clue what's going on behind the scenes. We can only be patient and judge on what we see on the pitch when the season starts.
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Same shit again. McCann leaves. Disaster. Club will never get anyone decent in if we only look at out of work managers. Club going to dogs. Would have been better if Richardson was still in charge, etc. Manager been in job just over a week and he hasn’t signed a load of new players. Disaster. We have no chance. Give it up and just accept relegation now.
Jesus wept.
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Some of you take things too literally and if things don't happen immediately you infer that you've been misled. It's like you can't wait to jump on the clubs back.
'One or Two' is a phrase and could easily mean 2 or 3 in his mind. The good news is he's recognised the same as we have where we need to strengthen. He's already on the case. It's likely that there maybe 'one or two' players that he's yet to be convinced by but wants to give them every chance.
I'm sorry but no manager is going to give you specific details of likely incoming or outgoings.
None of us are in a position at the moment to criticise as we have no clue what's going on behind the scenes. We can only be patient and judge on what we see on the pitch when the season starts.
Well Idd be seriously worried if he’d not realised we needed to strengthen in attacking areas 😆... in all seriousness I’ve just read the last few remaining Bolton players are about to walk out. Oztumer would be a good player to sign for that 10 role behind the striker
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Thing is he's hardly gonna go to the press "oh b*llocks I need a f**k ton of new players stat or we are totally f**ked" is he? if he makes us look desperate it's just gonna push up players' demands if they think we're in the shit without them.
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Some of you take things too literally and if things don't happen immediately you infer that you've been misled. It's like you can't wait to jump on the clubs back.
'One or Two' is a phrase and could easily mean 2 or 3 in his mind. The good news is he's recognised the same as we have where we need to strengthen. He's already on the case. It's likely that there maybe 'one or two' players that he's yet to be convinced by but wants to give them every chance.
I'm sorry but no manager is going to give you specific details of likely incoming or outgoings.
None of us are in a position at the moment to criticise as we have no clue what's going on behind the scenes. We can only be patient and judge on what we see on the pitch when the season starts.
Well Idd be seriously worried if he’d not realised we needed to strengthen in attacking areas 😆... in all seriousness I’ve just read the last few remaining Bolton players are about to walk out. Oztumer would be a good player to sign for that 10 role behind the striker
Maybe we are in talks with him.
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Thing is he's hardly gonna go to the press "oh b*llocks I need a f**k ton of new players stat or we are totally f**ked" is he? if he makes us look desperate it's just gonna push up players' demands if they think we're in the shit without them.
Spot on mate.
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Some of you take things too literally and if things don't happen immediately you infer that you've been misled. It's like you can't wait to jump on the clubs back.
'One or Two' is a phrase and could easily mean 2 or 3 in his mind. The good news is he's recognised the same as we have where we need to strengthen. He's already on the case. It's likely that there maybe 'one or two' players that he's yet to be convinced by but wants to give them every chance.
I'm sorry but no manager is going to give you specific details of likely incoming or outgoings.
None of us are in a position at the moment to criticise as we have no clue what's going on behind the scenes. We can only be patient and judge on what we see on the pitch when the season starts.
Well Idd be seriously worried if he’d not realised we needed to strengthen in attacking areas 😆... in all seriousness I’ve just read the last few remaining Bolton players are about to walk out. Oztumer would be a good player to sign for that 10 role behind the striker
Maybe we are in talks with him.
Hopefully, very good player at league 1 level
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Tin foil hats at the ready, lads...
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Some of you take things too literally and if things don't happen immediately you infer that you've been misled. It's like you can't wait to jump on the clubs back.
'One or Two' is a phrase and could easily mean 2 or 3 in his mind. The good news is he's recognised the same as we have where we need to strengthen. He's already on the case. It's likely that there maybe 'one or two' players that he's yet to be convinced by but wants to give them every chance.
I'm sorry but no manager is going to give you specific details of likely incoming or outgoings.
None of us are in a position at the moment to criticise as we have no clue what's going on behind the scenes. We can only be patient and judge on what we see on the pitch when the season starts.
Well Idd be seriously worried if he’d not realised we needed to strengthen in attacking areas 😆... in all seriousness I’ve just read the last few remaining Bolton players are about to walk out. Oztumer would be a good player to sign for that 10 role behind the striker
He’s got loads of ability. He makes May look like Mark Sale though!
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
SM it's not panicking at all, it's being very plain and clear about what they and everyone can see.
Some teams have recruited very well in our league this season and we are a good 4 weeks behined at least.
I've no problem with DM wanting to look at the players first but when you then hear that he's only looking to bring in 1 or 2, it starts to get you a little concerned. If no one else comes in the week I will start to get very concerned.
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
SM it's not panicking at all, it's being very plain and clear about what they and everyone can see.
Some teams have recruited very well in our league this season and we are a good 4 weeks behined at least.
I've no problem with DM wanting to look at the players first but when you then hear that he's only looking to bring in 1 or 2, it starts to get you a little concerned. If no one else comes in the week I will start to get very concerned.
Because everyone knows the manager tells the local papers absolutely everything he's working on behind closed doors with no smokescreen whatsoever eh.
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
SM it's not panicking at all, it's being very plain and clear about what they and everyone can see.
Some teams have recruited very well in our league this season and we are a good 4 weeks behined at least.
I've no problem with DM wanting to look at the players first but when you then hear that he's only looking to bring in 1 or 2, it starts to get you a little concerned. If no one else comes in the week I will start to get very concerned.
How often when someone says “I’ll be with you in two minutes” do they literally mean 120 seconds, or in a short while..
One or two probably means “a few” not 2 maximum.
Folks complain to buggery that the club doesn’t give out enough information then when they do every single word is taken literally rather than in context..
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It's like the YouTubers publishing their season predictions! How on earth can you possibly predict anything when teams have not fully assembled their squads? No wonder their predictions for last season were so far out. Still, it gets people's attention and gets their ratings up!
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Think the issue stems from the comments we have players ready to come in.
So expecting to sign players within a week of him coming in is not unrealistic. Would have hoped he knew what we need before came manager but I understand giving the players here a chance.
Now saying we are looking at 1 or 2 attacking players to come in when we had Middleton ready to join seems an unnecessary delay. If he doesn't come we must have someone really good coming in.
If we have no one new before next Saturday then I think we will struggle at the start of this season outside the first 11 and maybe 3 players on the bench who don't have quality to challenge each other
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I hope Atkinson signing is just smoke and mirrors too or it's only a month deal. A player in their peak age who struggled to get in a League Two team shouldn't be considered for a team aiming for a promotion challenge in the league above.
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dknward2,
I've already said Middleton won't be coming. Read back on this thread.
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I hope Atkinson signing is just smoke and mirrors too or it's only a month deal. A player in their peak age who struggled to get in a League Two team shouldn't be considered for a team aiming for a promotion challenge in the league above.
Different managers have different opinions on players and maybe DM thinks he can get more out of him then mansfield did.
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
SM it's not panicking at all, it's being very plain and clear about what they and everyone can see.
Some teams have recruited very well in our league this season and we are a good 4 weeks behined at least.
I've no problem with DM wanting to look at the players first but when you then hear that he's only looking to bring in 1 or 2, it starts to get you a little concerned. If no one else comes in the week I will start to get very concerned.
For somebody who's already suggested we may be looking at relegation I'd put you in the ' determined to be pessimistic' at all times camp.
Forgive me for not wanting to join you.
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I said a minimum of six new players and I stand by that.
The current starting 11 is average at best, and we have absolutely no strength in depth.
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I hope Atkinson signing is just smoke and mirrors too or it's only a month deal. A player in their peak age who struggled to get in a League Two team shouldn't be considered for a team aiming for a promotion challenge in the league above.
A. Another “Paul Taylor”. Just don’t need to travel down that road again .
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Absolutely pointless signing.. why??? There’s Amos and blaney to cover so it’s pretty piss poor signing someone who couldn’t get a game in the league below. Tuck shop managers running a football club doesn’t work.
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Not sure you can count two returning loan players as a comparison to the players we’ve lost.
With the funds we keep being told we have them we shouldn’t be offering players like will Atkinson short term deals, that just reeks of cutting your cloth.
We’re currently saving wages on
Marosi
Andrew
Mason
Rowe
Mandevile
Lund
Butler
Plus whatever we were paying for Kane, Wilks and downing.
We’ve now signed a young midfielder and two full backs, so we should have a hefty amount of funds available to re-build our squad.
We were told we had a number of exciting signings lined up yet we’re now considering offering will Atkinson a short term deal?
Doesn’t add up
Don’t forget we’ve also lost Tyler Smith and Arron Lewis and Idd imagine we were also contributing to Luke McCullough and Tyler Garretts wages too.
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Not sure you can count two returning loan players as a comparison to the players we’ve lost.
With the funds we keep being told we have them we shouldn’t be offering players like will Atkinson short term deals, that just reeks of cutting your cloth.
We’re currently saving wages on
Marosi
Andrew
Mason
Rowe
Mandevile
Lund
Butler
Plus whatever we were paying for Kane, Wilks and downing.
We’ve now signed a young midfielder and two full backs, so we should have a hefty amount of funds available to re-build our squad.
We were told we had a number of exciting signings lined up yet we’re now considering offering will Atkinson a short term deal?
Doesn’t add up
Agree with this. I'm sure I'm not alone in expecting some high calibre signings this week/before the season starts or the disappointment of a lot of fans will be just.
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A lot of this rests on how to interpret Moore's words. I can't for one second believe he thinks we only need '1 or 2' to 'balance to squad'. If he does, god help us but it seems it might just be an expression and hopefully more than that come in.
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Maybe it’s time the club invested in a Director of Football and stop leaving everything to a “A Little Black Book”.
A scouting network ran by a club Director to help keep the manager informed of the clubs prospects . How many of those were on a list when McCann swam the Humber .
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Maybe it’s time the club invested in a Director of Football and stop leaving everything to a “A Little Black Book”.
A scouting network ran by a club Director to help keep the manager informed of the clubs prospects . How many of those were on a list when McCann swam the Humber .
Have three of them swam the Humber with him.
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Well the Darren Moore effect hasn’t lasted long has it. Been in the job less than a week and has failed miserably to bring in 14 new players of Premiership standard! 🙄 Or should I say failed to personally call certain whiney fans and tell them his plans.Disgraceful Rovers!!! 🤣
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My normally depressing Sunday evening has actually been one of the most entertaining for many a year reading some of the comments on this thread!! Nobody on here has ever managed a professional football team and yet we’re blessed with so many experts! I’m quite happy to trust the opinions of DM and the Board above and beyond those who’s only experience of managing a football club came from playing Football Manager on a ZX Spectrum in 1985.
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You should go to the off-topic section if you want a real laugh. There's a handful of potential Prime Ministers whose only qualification is reading the Guardian!
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My normally depressing Sunday evening has actually been one of the most entertaining for many a year reading some of the comments on this thread!! Nobody on here has ever managed a professional football team and yet we’re blessed with so many experts! I’m quite happy to trust the opinions of DM and the Board above and beyond those who’s only experience of managing a football club came from playing Football Manager on a ZX Spectrum in 1985.
Shock horror !!! people writing about football in a ....erm football forum
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My normally depressing Sunday evening has actually been one of the most entertaining for many a year reading some of the comments on this thread!! Nobody on here has ever managed a professional football team and yet we’re blessed with so many experts! I’m quite happy to trust the opinions of DM and the Board above and beyond those who’s only experience of managing a football club came from playing Football Manager on a ZX Spectrum in 1985.
If you go back 12 months ago, it's the same suspects, saying the same negative things. Those saying we need top quality signings criticising the loan signing of Wilks etc.
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My normally depressing Sunday evening has actually been one of the most entertaining for many a year reading some of the comments on this thread!! Nobody on here has ever managed a professional football team and yet we’re blessed with so many experts! I’m quite happy to trust the opinions of DM and the Board above and beyond those who’s only experience of managing a football club came from playing Football Manager on a ZX Spectrum in 1985.
Shock horror !!! people writing about football in a ....erm football forum
Entirely missing the point...
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Some people are panicking for no reason whatsoever. And interpreting what DM says to prove their stand point and/or their negative position is sadly immature.
As I've posted earlier DM wanted a good look at what he has before entertaining the options already identified or those on his list. Thats currently happening. Wait and see.
SM it's not panicking at all, it's being very plain and clear about what they and everyone can see.
Some teams have recruited very well in our league this season and we are a good 4 weeks behined at least.
I've no problem with DM wanting to look at the players first but when you then hear that he's only looking to bring in 1 or 2, it starts to get you a little concerned. If no one else comes in the week I will start to get very concerned.
For somebody who's already suggested we may be looking at relegation I'd put you in the ' determined to be pessimistic' at all times camp.
Forgive me for not wanting to join you.
I see it more as being realistic. Other than last season (potentially being a one off????) we have not had a lot to sing about. Yes we went up from league 2 but should we have been relegated?
I want to be v optimistic and am proud of the club who I want to do well. On the player front I can only tell it as I see it though. I don't have the benefit of inside information unlike yourself
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As a club we’ve had far more to shout about over the last 10-15 years than almost every other club in the country
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As a club we’ve had far more to shout about over the last 10-15 years than almost every other club in the country
Exactly this. I expect the first few games to be a case of grinding out results, but I'd like to think we will then improve.
I do agree with some sentiments though, we do need a few bodies (3-4) and quick IMO.
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You should go to the off-topic section if you want a real laugh. There's a handful of potential Prime Ministers whose only qualification is reading the Guardian!
And the other half would struggle to be PM as they're too far up Nigel Farage's arse.
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You should go to the off-topic section if you want a real laugh. There's a handful of potential Prime Ministers whose only qualification is reading the Guardian!
And the other half would struggle to be PM as they're too far up Nigel Farage's arse.
So should we all be in panic mode or apply for a seat on the coaching staff the board or both Donny?
Apologies Donny for attributing a comment from jackanory to yourself.
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My normally depressing Sunday evening has actually been one of the most entertaining for many a year reading some of the comments on this thread!! Nobody on here has ever managed a professional football team and yet we’re blessed with so many experts! I’m quite happy to trust the opinions of DM and the Board above and beyond those who’s only experience of managing a football club came from playing Football Manager on a ZX Spectrum in 1985.
If you go back 12 months ago, it's the same suspects, saying the same negative things. Those saying we need top quality signings criticising the loan signing of Wilks etc.
I also remember the criticism of Herbie as a kid from Liverpool that they'd never heard of and I posted at the time:
quote author=Rovers Return link=topic=266829.msg794220#msg794220 date=1533242768]
Just told my lad who is at Liverpool Uni that we have signed Herbie Kane. He excitedly Said Herbie Kane? Herbie Kane? WOW!...........says it all for me
[/quote]
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I think we need a minimum of 4 good additions.
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I don’t know who it is but I’m a little disappointed that there hasn’t been one
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Why a the panic? We may have had a list of player drawn up for McCanns preferred formation and style. If he plays a different shape they won’t fit the squad. DM has to first work out what formation he will play. Then find the players who would fit that bill within the budget. Everything will work out and players will come in, make no mistake.
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There’s no panic
But with only 2 friendlies left to play you’d imagine he’d like them in sooner rather than later so he can work with them
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Yeah but there is no point signing for the sake of it.
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I think we need a minimum of 4 good additions.
we’ve had 3 so don’t hold your breath .
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There’s a piece with GB on the DFP website today, sounds positive and encouraging..
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Of course not
But you’d like to think we’ve had enough time by now to not only make signings for the sake of it.
Moore knew before he came what we needed, and had a long list of players that he felt were suitable
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My point exactly dickos
As for signing for the sake of it boro_rover. If we don’t sign some players we’re in the pooh
I just hope it’s not a panic if/when JM moves on
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The article in. Free press from GB
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-gavin-baldwin-on-squad-strengthening-and-the-characteristic-darren-moore-is-looking-for-in-new-signings-485714
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You should go to the off-topic section if you want a real laugh. There's a handful of potential Prime Ministers whose only qualification is reading the Guardian!
Absolutely and unequivocally THE post of the year BB.
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The article in. Free press from GB
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-gavin-baldwin-on-squad-strengthening-and-the-characteristic-darren-moore-is-looking-for-in-new-signings-485714
I would not expect GB to say anything other , he did intimate that a 18 man squad was the initial plan and as all the signings to date are from that plan and players put on hold we’re also , it’s looking very much like DM isn’t being given too much elbow room . Funds are there but what does that mean , are they for permanent signings or quality loans . Positive noises with plans afoot , it’s going to be a busy few days as every team will be chancing many of the players we are you have to assume .
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it’s looking very much like DM isn’t being given too much elbow room .
Where do you get that from.?
If anything, the DFP site report says the opposite.!!
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So what’s happened to all the quality signings who were lined up?
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Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that sealing a deal can have its complications, particularly with agents advising their players to hold off and wait to assess the best deal on offer, even if there is agreements on fees with the selling clubs. Sometimes it's a game of cat and mouse and negotiations get protracted.
What do you want? Wait to get your no 1 target or go with your no 2 just to appease certain sections of your fans who don't have patience?
I'm sure there's many clubs,agents and players spinning a few plates at the moment!
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
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I think people are having abit of a panic because at the end of the day we have lost 2 center backs who haven't been replaced. We have lost Rowe & Kane in midfield and replaced the with Sheaf. Lost Wilks upfront and not replaced him.
Bright side we brought in a right back, which has let Blair back into midfield which helps with the numbers and if they signed a squad player like Atkinson, then at least we have cover in couple of positions if injuries hit.
We are still 4-5 players short and you would hope with couple of loans plus 2-3 signings we have a squad strong enough to pick up where we left off.
I do think I big factor will be if Marquis gets sold or not because if we do get 2 million for him them could see players coming in quickly with tht money.
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As DonnyBaz says above, if you first have to approach a club you then have to enquire whether the player is for sale and at what cost. Then approach that players agent - who will then approach his player to work out A if they are interested and b what their terms are. The club then has to negotiate with the player to come to an agreement. In the meantime the agent will be ringing around other clubs who may be interested telling them we have agreed a fee but he would prefer them. Before all that the scouts and management have to find the suitable players in the first place. Don’t forget Moore is shopping in a different market now as well.
When you consider clubs like United at the end of Mourinhos tenure were signing his 4th and 5th choice you get some idea of how difficult it is to get transfers of players - especially desirable ones over the line.
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I think people are having abit of a panic because at the end of the day we have lost 2 center backs who haven't been replaced. We have lost Rowe & Kane in midfield and replaced the with Sheaf. Lost Wilks upfront and not replaced him.
Bright side we brought in a right back, which has let Blair back into midfield which helps with the numbers and if they signed a squad player like Atkinson, then at least we have cover in couple of positions if injuries hit.
We are still 4-5 players short and you would hope with couple of loans plus 2-3 signings we have a squad strong enough to pick up where we left off.
I do think I big factor will be if Marquis gets sold or not because if we do get 2 million for him them could see players coming in quickly with tht money.
We surly don’t need to sell marquis to bring players in. We have released plenty of high earners and keep getting told our budget is around 6/7th best so should have plenty of funds available
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
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I think people are having abit of a panic because at the end of the day we have lost 2 center backs who haven't been replaced. We have lost Rowe & Kane in midfield and replaced the with Sheaf. Lost Wilks upfront and not replaced him.
Bright side we brought in a right back, which has let Blair back into midfield which helps with the numbers and if they signed a squad player like Atkinson, then at least we have cover in couple of positions if injuries hit.
We are still 4-5 players short and you would hope with couple of loans plus 2-3 signings we have a squad strong enough to pick up where we left off.
I do think I big factor will be if Marquis gets sold or not because if we do get 2 million for him them could see players coming in quickly with tht money.
We surly don’t need to sell marquis to bring players in. We have released plenty of high earners and keep getting told our budget is around 6/7th best so should have plenty of funds available
We don’t, if he goes and at the moment it’s a big if the only thing it would effect is the need for another forward. Darren has taken his time to assess the squad as is, do bare in mind he has to keep who he has already got happy. There is no way we will start the season without any new faces arriving so why not enjoy the next few days of hot weather and see who comes through the door
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
Yes but your idea of top quality and our current managers may differ
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Why all the rush,think next tues is the day everything will happen or maybe the week after :rolleyes: :suicide: only kidding everything will turn out right,have faith.
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My point exactly dickos
As for signing for the sake of it boro_rover. If we don’t sign some players we’re in the pooh
I just hope it’s not a panic if/when JM moves on
But if you sign for the sake of it,we could be stuck with that Pooh on/in our shoes/boots.Better to start the season a few short than be stuck with several useless for rest of the season.
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The misleading quote came from Baldwin who said the quality players were lined up and ready to sign!! Well obviously not... the same guy said McCann was going nowhere so I’ll leave you all with that.
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I think people are having abit of a panic because at the end of the day we have lost 2 center backs who haven't been replaced. We have lost Rowe & Kane in midfield and replaced the with Sheaf. Lost Wilks upfront and not replaced him.
Bright side we brought in a right back, which has let Blair back into midfield which helps with the numbers and if they signed a squad player like Atkinson, then at least we have cover in couple of positions if injuries hit.
We are still 4-5 players short and you would hope with couple of loans plus 2-3 signings we have a squad strong enough to pick up where we left off.
I do think I big factor will be if Marquis gets sold or not because if we do get 2 million for him them could see players coming in quickly with tht money.
We surly don’t need to sell marquis to bring players in. We have released plenty of high earners and keep getting told our budget is around 6/7th best so should have plenty of funds available
We don’t, if he goes and at the moment it’s a big if the only thing it would effect is the need for another forward. Darren has taken his time to assess the squad as is, do bare in mind he has to keep who he has already got happy. There is no way we will start the season without any new faces arriving so why not enjoy the next few days of hot weather and see who comes through the door
My post about Marquis was written poorly, I didn’t mean that players coming in is dependant on Marquis being sold, what I meant was, when a player gets sold like Marquis for that kind of money, certain deals where there is a sticking point in regards to wages or fees usually get sorted, as we are happy paying the little extra and deals could complete quicker. If he goes or not we will get the same amount of players in (actually one more player to replace him)
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
You are not Darren Moore.
You cannot say as fact we need to replace Morosi.
You cannot say as fact we need an alternative to JM.. What was the alternative last season?
You cannot say as fact that Ben Sheaf will not be as effective as Kane in midfield. We may not need a clone of Herbie if the sum of the parts across midfield work effectively.
Only Darren Moore can make those assessments.
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The misleading quote came from Baldwin who said the quality players were lined up and ready to sign!! Well obviously not... the same guy said McCann was going nowhere so I’ll leave you all with that.
Where did GB state that McCann was going nowhere? Have you just made that up?
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Still time for me and not being negative , but it's a big ask to be stronger than last season when we have to replace 2 big players in Wilks and herbie , and rowe and the experience of butler with the added facts they scored quite a few goals between them. Plus we have replaced Andrew but how Andrew finished the season it will be a big miss because he was also likely to score 4 or 5 goals a season.
If we compare to a side with a similar finish , just look how Peterborough have signed I would say they are a lot stronger with 5 or 6 good signings, plus they have had time together and will hit the ground running and I would predict them to finish in the top 4 possibly automatics .. ?
We have a big ask to be better than last season so to replace the players we had with better is a tough ask and surely we should be looking at bringing at least 4 -6 players in,
Things can change with signings , but whatever happens I think we will probably have a slow start.
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
You are not Darren Moore.
You cannot say as fact we need to replace Morosi.
You cannot say as fact we need an alternative to JM.. What was the alternative last season?
You cannot say as fact that Ben Sheaf will not be as effective as Kane in midfield. We may not need a clone of Herbie if the sum of the parts across midfield work effectively.
Only Darren Moore can make those assessments.
DBR the alternative to JM was Wilkes who played in that position once but was available to do so.
We haven’t got that person at all in the totally squad.
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Sm, you both stated it, you stated it on here!! Told everyone not to panic lol..come on mate..
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No, neither of them stated that and there isn’t any need to panic
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I believe what SM said was that he'd be surprised if the new manager would turn down the chance at these signings. No more or less than that - if DM thinks he can do better, then thars fair enough isn't it? I agree we need a fair few quality additions and I'm shocked he didn't go for Middleton but DM knows far better than me or any of us plebs on here what this team needs.
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I’m sure we have got a decent budget, however if you’re buying a car you don’t walk into the forecourt and announce ‘mr salesman I’ve a great big wad I want to spend on a car’
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
You are not Darren Moore.
You cannot say as fact we need to replace Morosi.
You cannot say as fact we need an alternative to JM.. What was the alternative last season?
You cannot say as fact that Ben Sheaf will not be as effective as Kane in midfield. We may not need a clone of Herbie if the sum of the parts across midfield work effectively.
Only Darren Moore can make those assessments.
The alternative to Marquis last season was Wilkes, Tyler Smith and May, 2 of those proved to be not good enough. I was classing Sheaf as a replacement for Rowe. It’s obvious to most fans except it seems You, that we are 4-5 good players short at the minute from have another tilt at the play offs.
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Darren,Darren, Darren!
You have seriously got to read this forum, I mean seriously !!
We have pundits, and pessimists and philosophers aplenty,
we have know-alls and know-nots and fence sitters too
We need 3 more, no 6 more, so many more my heads sore!
We got spenders and spendthrifts and banks of cash too....
Yet the only thing we don’t have is a god given clue?
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Don’t forget Moore is shopping in a different market now as well.
Your right he used to shop at Marks and Spencers , now he's at Ldll.
If he waits any longer he'll be doing his shopping at a Food Bank . :lol:
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Everyone has there own opinion and yes it’s completely divided with the fans, but when the board say things and it doesn’t happen well what’s happening??? A classic example of bad management.... we received Darren’s cv and knew straight away he was the man for us!! So why wait 2 week for the inevitable and let 2 weeks of precious pre season planning go down the pan?? I’m sorry I just don’t understand that one.. I appreciate the board do a sterling job with the community etc but as for the real business they haven’t a clue whatsoever and a although personally I’ve never been an admirer of a footballing director I seriously think we might need to go that way.
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If we only needed 1 maybe 2 players then there is little pressure on us to get them signed up immediately. It’s the fact that we still need 4 or 5 good quality additions that is getting everyone worried. The season starts in 12 days and there is currently no sign of anyone coming in, in the near future.
That's your opinion but you cannot state as fact we need 4 or 5 quality additions. Most will concur we will need at least two to get us up and running, then we have another month before the window closes to assess things.
That period could also allow for whether we lose JM or not.
Course I can state that. We haven’t replaced Maorsi, Butler, Downing, Kane or Wilkes, and still need a alternative up top to marquis. 4 of those 5 mentioned most would agree were top quality players. So are you suggesting we don’t need top quality players to replace them. If you are then I hope your happy with a season with where a mid table finish is considered as success
You are not Darren Moore.
You cannot say as fact we need to replace Morosi.
You cannot say as fact we need an alternative to JM.. What was the alternative last season?
You cannot say as fact that Ben Sheaf will not be as effective as Kane in midfield. We may not need a clone of Herbie if the sum of the parts across midfield work effectively.
Only Darren Moore can make those assessments.
The alternative to Marquis last season was Wilkes, Tyler Smith and May, 2 of those proved to be not good enough. I was classing Sheaf as a replacement for Rowe. It’s obvious to most fans except it seems You, that we are 4-5 good players short at the minute from have another tilt at the play offs.
But that's about opinion not fact. If you'd have said in my opinion we need 4 or 5 good players, I would tend to agree.
Most will agree we need good cover at centre back. We will need to replace Wilks goals, .pace and threat up front. So that's likely we need two quality players to make the first XI comparable with last seasons starting XI.
The rest is debatable about what we need and where to carry us through a season to cover injuries and provide the manager with options.
For me Sadlier was already the replacement for Rowe.
DMs job is to make that assessment to what we need including the possibility of a creative player in midfield.
He may think that Whiteman, Sheaf, Crawford, Copps, Sadlier, Blair between them possess enough creativity.
I doubt very much he will sign 4 or 5 players before the season starts. He'll assess whether players perform, strengths and weaknesses and use the remainder of the transfer window to trade to get his full squad. That could include outgoings too for those he thinks have no future.
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Sm, you both stated it, you stated it on here!! Told everyone not to panic lol..come on mate..
I guess you're new?
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Everyone has there own opinion and yes it’s completely divided with the fans, but when the board say things and it doesn’t happen well what’s happening??? A classic example of bad management.... we received Darren’s cv and knew straight away he was the man for us!! So why wait 2 week for the inevitable and let 2 weeks of precious pre season planning go down the pan?? I’m sorry I just don’t understand that one.. I appreciate the board do a sterling job with the community etc but as for the real business they haven’t a clue whatsoever and a although personally I’ve never been an admirer of a footballing director I seriously think we might need to go that way.
Making their multi million fortune via their businesses is clearly of no relevance?
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Ok... when they took over it was destination championship etc ..... were still an average league 1 team.
The dons were being told it’s super league ambitions in the next few year..... there in the bottom league several years on.
Can you honestly tell me and others they have a sporting clue????? They haven’t it’s simple purely in my opinion the club is being run as a tuck shop, there’s absolutely no ambition whatsoever, not since billy sharp as anyone thought we mean business this season, it’s tiring and boring.
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Hahahahaha
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Everyone has there own opinion and yes it’s completely divided with the fans, but when the board say things and it doesn’t happen well what’s happening??? A classic example of bad management.... we received Darren’s cv and knew straight away he was the man for us!! So why wait 2 week for the inevitable and let 2 weeks of precious pre season planning go down the pan?? I’m sorry I just don’t understand that one.. I appreciate the board do a sterling job with the community etc but as for the real business they haven’t a clue whatsoever and a although personally I’ve never been an admirer of a footballing director I seriously think we might need to go that way.
My oh my you’re a tetchy one aren’t ya...?
Unless you are privy to the actual inner workings of the club I’d let this one go...
Your opinions are starting to sound like facts and your tone has shifted to the very negative end of the spectrum...
and yet....I’d wager you know absolutely nothing about what’s currently going on behind those closed doors...
You won’t know how advanced some negations are, you certainly won’t know what targets have been identified,
And neither do I
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
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On a shoestring.??
Prove it.??
Having ambition and an ambitious budget does not guarantee success on the pitch.! Last season was a success in that we got to the play offs..
We are waiting for DM to finalise his squad and GB has said he will be backed, if you believe what he is quoted as saying in the DFP today.
This demand for instant gratification and taking each and every syllable of club statements etc precisely literally rather than in context, really makes my piss boil..
Reminds me of falling into s barrel of tits and coming out sucking your thumb..
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
If you are stating this as your opinion then fair enough but if you are stating it as fact you haven’t got a clue.
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
You might call it a shoestring. Others call it a budget. Your opinion is welcome just as any others but if you are looking for a club to be splashing the cash beyond its means, it ain't going to happen!
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
Those facts has you call them are subjective..
Did you enjoy the football played last season?
Did you actually expect a top 6 finish?
We have no automatic right to expect Championship football, we are a poorly supported club that does the best it can with the funds and resources at its disposal,,....I think you are not going to enjoy the next few years of watching little old Donny Rovers, mainly because your expectations far outweigh the reality of our situation...
We are a small club, and small clubs find their place .......
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I fully agree with some comments especially the attendances, funnily enough I went into 3 separate dmbc leisure centres last week and not once did I see anything about the the club Doncaster?? Should I of done I don’t know?? Marketing wise we’re terrible there’s nothing, we should be swamping social media etc.
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
Those facts has you call them are subjective..
Did you enjoy the football played last season?
Did you actually expect a top 6 finish?
We have no automatic right to expect Championship football, we are a poorly supported club that does the best it can with the funds and resources at its disposal,,....I think you are not going to enjoy the next few years of watching little old Donny Rovers, mainly because your expectations far outweigh the reality of our situation...
We are a small club, and small clubs find their place .......
Garbage.
We aren't a poorly supported club, in fact we are a well supported club at this level.
Rotherham manage it on similar crowds to usm
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Exactly then, how can Rotherham have a bigger budget than us ??
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Exactly then, how can Rotherham have a bigger budget than us ??
Have they?
How much are the respective budgets? - round thousands will do.
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Exactly then, how can Rotherham have a bigger budget than us ??
Rotherham’s attendances last season were around 20% higher than ours.
Mind you, they were in the Championship and the away end would have been busier than ours generally.
They probably won’t be as good for them next season unless they are in the top four or five.
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This is getting farcical.
I suppose it was the boards fault Rowe and Marquis missed their penalties in the play off semi?
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Sm, you both stated it, you stated it on here!! Told everyone not to panic lol..come on mate..
I guess you're new?
Only under this user name 😏
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This is getting farcical.
I suppose it was the boards fault Rowe and Marquis missed their penalties in the play off semi?
Yes. The budget they gave GM was so precise that the only possible outcome over the course of the season was two players missing penalties having scored in open play after 90 minutes and extra time.
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Considering theve just bought the kid from Plymouth for 500k I’d say they have lol..
Shrewsbury have pushed the boat out,
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Cov
Rotherham
How on earth are these bigger than donny apart from cov?
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Considering theve just bought the kid from Plymouth for 500k I’d say they have lol..
Shrewsbury have pushed the boat out,
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Cov
Rotherham
How on earth are these bigger than donny apart from cov?
So basically you've no idea then. Fair enough.
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Going on facts seen your absolutely clueless
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Going on facts seen your absolutely clueless
*you're
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Considering theve just bought the kid from Plymouth for 500k I’d say they have lol..
Shrewsbury have pushed the boat out,
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Cov
Rotherham
How on earth are these bigger than donny apart from cov?
Doesn’t mean we don’t have cash to spend..
Did you read GB in the DFP today.? No, nought not.
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Considering theve just bought the kid from Plymouth for 500k I’d say they have lol..
Shrewsbury have pushed the boat out,
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Cov
Rotherham
How on earth are these bigger than donny apart from cov?
Rotherham have sold their best 2 players for £4m so that’s where their money has come from.
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Considering theve just bought the kid from Plymouth for 500k I’d say they have lol..
Shrewsbury have pushed the boat out,
Fleetwood
Peterborough
Cov
Rotherham
How on earth are these bigger than donny apart from cov?
Rotherham have sold their best 2 players for £4m so that’s where their money has come from.
They’ve just signed a very good keeper on a season long loan Iverson from LCFC who was on loan at Oldham last year.
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He was on here a couple month ago under a different username slagging off the board. There's no point trying with him. You can't educate pork.
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No manager has come to Rovers expecting to spend money . We don’t have it to spend , the funds available frase is just that and should never be implied as something is about to happen . We don’t get the crowds or have the sponsorship that pays the sort of money to burn . The Championship would be a good step up but getting back there is proving more competitive every season . I think most of the clubs funds is going on the academy to build for the future. Darren Moore will try to go one better than McCann and the board will be supporting but I can’t ever see us going toe toe in a bidding war .
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You didn’t read GB’s DFP comments either then, I take it.??
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You didn’t read GB’s DFP comments either then, I take it.??
Did it mention anything in particular.
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You’re on the internet, go have a read..
Summarising, he’s saying the club will support the manager with his player recruitment.. they don’t put a figure on it but the implication is that a budget is available..
He said something like “we’ve got the funds available, they’re there”
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You’re on the internet, go have a read..
Summarising, he’s saying the club will support the manager with his player recruitment.. they don’t put a figure on it but the implication is that a budget is available..
He said something like “we’ve got the funds available, they’re there”
So nothing definitive then !
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Last season McCann used the budget given to reconstruct a side that played his way.
We three goalkeepers two good at league 1 level and another learning his trade.
He got the best out of the two fullbacks we had. He had three good CHs and was allowed to bring in a better one on loan when Joe was injured and Masons misdemeanour..
He added to the midfield with Crawford. Anderson poor loan.
We had the same forwards and added Taylor poor signing.
Then we come to the two Gems Kane and Wilks who made our team better.
Two more average loans in January. Plus signing of Sadlier
So that’s how he used the money he had available
Now we come to DM. He’s having to build a team.
We have only two Gks because one was allowed to leave.
The fullbacks were replaced before he arrived.
We now have two centrehalves because the most experienced was allow to leave.
Midfield Kane gone back Sheaf in his place different players but we will see how he develops.
Rowe allowed to leave although I don’t think we could have kept him.
Replaced by a totally inexperienced player in Gomez although some believe Sadlier will develop into that role. Only played in the starting eleven once in four preseason games because of late injury to Whiteman.
Both of these players have work to do to be better than Rowe.
Forwards we’ve lost Wilks no replacement.
So DM has a harder job for me to use the funds available to make us into a stronger team/ squad.
If lose Marquis and Whiteman
His job becomes even harder.
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Good summary, Steve.
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Last season McCann used the budget given to reconstruct a side that played his way.
We three goalkeepers two good at league 1 level and another learning his trade.
He got the best out of the two fullbacks we had. He had three good CHs and was allowed to bring in a better one on loan when Joe was injured and Masons misdemeanour..
He added to the midfield with Crawford. Anderson poor loan.
We had the same forwards and added Taylor poor signing.
Then we come to the two Gems Kane and Wilks who made our team better.
Two more average loans in January. Plus signing of Sadlier
So that’s how he used the money he had available
Now we come to DM. He’s having to build a team.
We have only two Gks because one was allowed to leave.
The fullbacks were replaced before he arrived.
We now have two centrehalves because the most experienced was allow to leave.
Midfield Kane gone back Sheaf in his place different players but we will see how he develops.
Rowe allowed to leave although I don’t think we could have kept him.
Replaced by a totally inexperienced player in Gomez although some believe Sadlier will develop into that role. Only played in the starting eleven once in four preseason games because of late injury to Whiteman.
Both of these players have work to do to be better than Rowe.
Forwards we’ve lost Wilks no replacement.
So DM has a harder job for me to use the funds available to make us into a stronger team/ squad.
If lose Marquis and Whiteman
His job becomes even harder.
I’m getting more confused by the minute!
I like your summary, pretty much laden with indisputable facts...
But the summing up lacks real thought and even less substance?
Why do you think Darren’s job is harder ?
I’m assuming you think he is a rookie manager with no connections in the game!
You say “ if “ we lose JM and Whiteman .......what IF we don’t ?
Now you state a fact as in “his job becomes even harder “
See !
all of this is true only if you are correct,
however!
all of this is just an opinion, an opinion that carries little value without at least a little substance....
i know it’s achingly frustrating not knowing what’s happening, but you have just got to be patient...
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I’ve said nothing about targets mate I’m just talking about facts. We are still in l1 the dons are further down the ladder than when they took over, so how is it working? I can’t see championship football or super league can you??? There’s no ambition at all it’s my opinion and shared by many. Off the pitch the club has made great strides and must be congratulated on a brilliant job but on the pitch it’s not good, everything is being done on a shoestring and everyone can see it.
Those facts has you call them are subjective..
Did you enjoy the football played last season?
Did you actually expect a top 6 finish?
We have no automatic right to expect Championship football, we are a poorly supported club that does the best it can with the funds and resources at its disposal,,....I think you are not going to enjoy the next few years of watching little old Donny Rovers, mainly because your expectations far outweigh the reality of our situation...
We are a small club, and small clubs find their place .......
Garbage.
We aren't a poorly supported club, in fact we are a well supported club at this level.
Rotherham manage it on similar crowds to usm
You start your opening argument with the word “ garbage”
and then play bagatelle with some random statements???
So I’ll throw you a simplistic fact...we are poorly supported compared to Liverpool ....
and I’m sure Rotherham do !
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Yes it is my opinion. I never thought DM was a rookie manager.
But to get the squad standard back to were we where at the start of last season and at the end of the season. Then DM still has to bring in another Gk, experience CH, experienced mid field/ forward player and an attacking forward. To add to the 4 players already brought in. GM did not have to bring that many players at the beginning.
I’m not saying he can’t do it he may chose not to bring some of those players in. But in my opinion he’s got a harder job to complete the task than GM had.
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Sm, you both stated it, you stated it on here!! Told everyone not to panic lol..come on mate..
I think you're mistaken, I never said that Grant McCann wasn't going anywhere. If I did, which I didn't, I challenge you to find said post.
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No manager has come to Rovers expecting to spend money . We don’t have it to spend , the funds available frase is just that and should never be implied as something is about to happen . We don’t get the crowds or have the sponsorship that pays the sort of money to burn . The Championship would be a good step up but getting back there is proving more competitive every season . I think most of the clubs funds is going on the academy to build for the future. Darren Moore will try to go one better than McCann and the board will be supporting but I can’t ever see us going toe toe in a bidding war .
You're just wrong on so many points, as usual.
We don't have the sponsors? How many clubs at our level have national sponsors? We have two!
The commercial team drive the revenue so hard that it outweighs ticket revenue, and has done for the last few seasons. You need to do your homework.
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Sm, you both stated it, you stated it on here!! Told everyone not to panic lol..come on mate..
I guess you're new?
Only under this user name 😏
It's Mr Frost?
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But at the start of last season GM (and the Board) were slagged to death on here for bringing in 2 untried kids and the season was going to be a disaster.
I honestly think some of the posters on here were only ever happy when Richardson was driving us to extinction
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Won't be long now.
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But at the start of last season GM (and the Board) were slagged to death on here for bringing in 2 untried kids and the season was going to be a disaster.
I honestly think some of the posters on here were only ever happy when Richardson was driving us to extinction
And most I would think have never run a business nor coached a team.
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No manager has come to Rovers expecting to spend money . We don’t have it to spend , the funds available frase is just that and should never be implied as something is about to happen . We don’t get the crowds or have the sponsorship that pays the sort of money to burn . The Championship would be a good step up but getting back there is proving more competitive every season . I think most of the clubs funds is going on the academy to build for the future. Darren Moore will try to go one better than McCann and the board will be supporting but I can’t ever see us going toe toe in a bidding war .
You're just wrong on so many points, as usual.
We don't have the sponsors? How many clubs at our level have national sponsors? We have two!
The commercial team drive the revenue so hard that it outweighs ticket revenue, and has done for the last few seasons. You need to do your homework.
Lner and???? Stonacre? Utilita?
Genuine question that I don't know which other one you class as national
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No manager has come to Rovers expecting to spend money . We don’t have it to spend , the funds available frase is just that and should never be implied as something is about to happen . We don’t get the crowds or have the sponsorship that pays the sort of money to burn . The Championship would be a good step up but getting back there is proving more competitive every season . I think most of the clubs funds is going on the academy to build for the future. Darren Moore will try to go one better than McCann and the board will be supporting but I can’t ever see us going toe toe in a bidding war .
You're just wrong on so many points, as usual.
We don't have the sponsors? How many clubs at our level have national sponsors? We have two!
The commercial team drive the revenue so hard that it outweighs ticket revenue, and has done for the last few seasons. You need to do your homework.
Lner and???? Stonacre? Utilita?
Genuine question that I don't know which other one you class as national
Utilita.
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Obvious
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Utilila are Scunny's main shirt sponsors this year
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Not rainham steel
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Yeah it is utilita but who cares about Scunny,everybody just in for a arguement on here
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Not everyone. Just the usual attention seekers!
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Indeed, so when do we get a signing ;)
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It won't belong now
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It won't belong now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVKU6SevefY
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
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11 days and counting.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
The season starts before then though doesn it? I guess we can afford to piss away the first month, then expect any new singings to immediately gel.
Fund are there. How much? Enough to sign top two calibre players, as per the stated aim?
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Let the mad post begin again !!!!
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The season starts on 3 August, not tomorrow..
The amount of funds isn’t quoted but why should it be.. can’t you have some faith in the club and manager.?
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Let the mad post begin again !!!!
Mad because its a differing opinion to those who lick the collective arses of everyone at the club?
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Well said idm
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
That's right IDM, but the season starts in 11 days time, and we need to hit the ground running. Don't forget it takes time for players to gel.
We really need to get some players in.
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No I've nothing to do with the club and don't lick arses ,
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I genuinely think some people would be happy if we just stuck with the players we've got.
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Let the mad post begin again !!!!
Mad because its a differing opinion to those who lick the collective arses of everyone at the club?
It's not about licking arses, a crude description if there ever was one, its about supporting the club, that's why we're called supporters.
As for criticising the club, I probably do it more than anybody does, but there's a difference between dishing the dirt on any old social media platform and actually being constructive with your intentions. I know which I prefer.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
And what if we can't find the right players?
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
And what if we can't find the right players?
Who’s to say that those who have made their signings early have got it right? Two to three more additions before the start of the season in the right areas should be more than enough for the start of the season and then two to three more before the end of the window. If we haven’t signed anyone by a week on Thursday then I will start to worry.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
The season starts before then though doesn it? I guess we can afford to piss away the first month, then expect any new singings to immediately gel.
Fund are there. How much? Enough to sign top two calibre players, as per the stated aim?
I'm sure someone can arrange for your post to be read out tonight in your absence.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
I think we’ve wasted valuable time, Gavin said himself there was a wow factor when Moore applied but we still went through a three week process to appoint him 3 weeks wasted. Running up to Moore’s appointment we were told we had a whole raft of signings ready to go, then it comes out the Moore needs time to assess the squad, understandable but you’d think he would have been doing some reasearch during that three week process. And here we are 2 weeks after his appointment, no nearer a full squad and less than 2 weeks to go, 5 weeks wasted, is it any wonder that supporters are starting to get a little worried?
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I'm not worried (just yet),yes we're a few short but let's just see what happens,this is the first season in a few that I've been genuinely excited and can't wait to start.
You can shoot me down after 10 games if needed
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That feel-good factor surrounding Moore's appointment lasted all of about two days, didn't it? Too many seemingly are not happy unless they are unhappy.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
I think we’ve wasted valuable time, Gavin said himself there was a wow factor when Moore applied but we still went through a three week process to appoint him 3 weeks wasted. Running up to Moore’s appointment we were told we had a whole raft of signings ready to go, then it comes out the Moore needs time to assess the squad, understandable but you’d think he would have been doing some reasearch during that three week process. And here we are 2 weeks after his appointment, no nearer a full squad and less than 2 weeks to go, 5 weeks wasted, is it any wonder that supporters are starting to get a little worried?
There's trust that DM is working hard behind the scenes, there's concern that we need a couple of key players in before the season starts, then there's panic from a minority and from an even smaller minority there complete senseless childlike tantrums including the usual board bashing!
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
I think we’ve wasted valuable time, Gavin said himself there was a wow factor when Moore applied but we still went through a three week process to appoint him 3 weeks wasted. Running up to Moore’s appointment we were told we had a whole raft of signings ready to go, then it comes out the Moore needs time to assess the squad, understandable but you’d think he would have been doing some reasearch during that three week process. And here we are 2 weeks after his appointment, no nearer a full squad and less than 2 weeks to go, 5 weeks wasted, is it any wonder that supporters are starting to get a little worried?
There's trust that DM is working hard behind the scenes, there's concern that we need a couple of key players in before the season starts, then there's panic from a minority and from an even smaller minority there complete senseless childlike tantrums including the usual board bashing!
I’d like to think that you have me in the concerned that we need a couple of key players in bracket, and not your last bracket 😀
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Me too, Filo..
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Common sense tells you it's a waste of time hanging on every word that's spoken or printed. All we can do is turn up to the first game and judge what you see. I don't particularly care where players come from, how much they cost in terms of fees and wages, whether they are loans or permanent. The proof of the pudding is whether they can play football, understand what the manager wants them to do to get results. If they can show that, play reasonably entertaining football and score goals then that'll do for me.
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
I think we’ve wasted valuable time, Gavin said himself there was a wow factor when Moore applied but we still went through a three week process to appoint him 3 weeks wasted. Running up to Moore’s appointment we were told we had a whole raft of signings ready to go, then it comes out the Moore needs time to assess the squad, understandable but you’d think he would have been doing some reasearch during that three week process. And here we are 2 weeks after his appointment, no nearer a full squad and less than 2 weeks to go, 5 weeks wasted, is it any wonder that supporters are starting to get a little worried?
There's trust that DM is working hard behind the scenes, there's concern that we need a couple of key players in before the season starts, then there's panic from a minority and from an even smaller minority there complete senseless childlike tantrums including the usual board bashing!
We need more than a couple.
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It depends
If we sign two players who will walk straight into our side and dramatically improve it like Wilks and Kane did, then we can bolster the squad with others.
The starting 11 is only missing a Kane and a Wilks in my opinion, and then we just need to improve the quality of the squad
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A Kane, a Wilks and an experienced cb to start with. The rest can follow.
But an assistant manager is still also required!
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A Kane, a Wilks and an experienced can to start with. The rest can follow.
But an assistant manager is still also required!
Who was identified last week, and still we await
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These things take time.. that was said too
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Such teasers aren't they!
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Oh I'm on the edge of my seat
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
we realy need players to be playing I a couple of friendly gamed to get a bit of sharpness into them and so they know the system
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Having been to Grimsby and seen nothing that gives confidence.i know it's a friendly.we look weak as a side.several of our squad from last year have departed leaving us with players who struggled to make the first team last year.its ok saying will improve and give them a chance.but will they improve.kiwoma as an example.god forbid early injuries.i hope dm has got it hand.i think most of the fans have faith and not start the season without a strong line up.
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I must be the only one who doesn’t care one way or the other whether we sign anyone at all, I don’t fear losing like some.... i will go watch them week in week out and enjoy every win, ponder and deconstruct every draw, and lament the loss.....
And I will hopefully see some young diamonds begin to shine, I care little for paid success, that’s why last season was quite remarkable...
I want a manager to “Manage”, and go with him on his journey....
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Well, a little more than 10 days before the first game, and still no sign of anyone coming in.
As I've said, IMO our starting 11 is average at best, with absolutely no squad depth should anyone get injured.
I can't make the meeting tonight, however if I could, I'd be asking how many players Moore believes he needs to add to have a competitive league one squad. IMO has to be a minimum of 5 more maybe more.
The board stated its their aim to finish top 2 this season. That just sounds laughable at the moment, there's no evidence anywhere that suggests we are capable of this.
Did you read GB on the DFP website yesterday.?
I assume you didn’t but basically GB is saying funds are available to support the new manager..
Try to have a little patience, the transfer window is open until September..
We have 6 league games before September, we don’t want to beplaying catch up
I would expect some players to arrive before the season starts, just like most fans do.
Then maybe a couple more before the window ends.
We may be a little short for the start of the season but isn’t it better to get the right players, rather than any players.??
I think we’ve wasted valuable time, Gavin said himself there was a wow factor when Moore applied but we still went through a three week process to appoint him 3 weeks wasted. Running up to Moore’s appointment we were told we had a whole raft of signings ready to go, then it comes out the Moore needs time to assess the squad, understandable but you’d think he would have been doing some reasearch during that three week process. And here we are 2 weeks after his appointment, no nearer a full squad and less than 2 weeks to go, 5 weeks wasted, is it any wonder that supporters are starting to get a little worried?
There's trust that DM is working hard behind the scenes, there's concern that we need a couple of key players in before the season starts, then there's panic from a minority and from an even smaller minority there complete senseless childlike tantrums including the usual board bashing!
I don't see any bashing just people concerned about not signing anyone, it is getting a bit close to the season, yes we might be playing some good football against grimsby but with no end product. Most people will be getting more anxious as the days go by, I think the body's will come in if there is any left after they have been picked over but we realy do neet to move a lot quicker to appease most of the fans
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A couple of quality signings before the weekend and the mood will change.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
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These things take time.. that was said too
Aye but said it should all be finalised with 24/48 hours.
Anyhow I’m not concerned regarding the assistant manager.
A couple of exciting signings and most, not all will be happy
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These things take time.. that was said too
Aye but said it should all be finalised with 24/48 hours.
Anyhow I’m not concerned regarding the assistant manager.
A couple of exciting signings and most, not all will be happy
The phrase used was 'hope to have everything finalised within 24/48 hours'. Not quite the same thing.
My understanding is that it's definitely now done, just a matter of putting out an announcement.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
Bit of positive news hopefully hear something soon
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A couple of quality signings before the weekend and the mood will change.
There is no mention of any , Only the desire too. Why is it being left to
GB to talk about this , surly DM is able to
Speak about his plans as after all he is in charge of all football matters according to GB .
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A couple of quality signings before the weekend and the mood will change.
There is no mention of any , Only the desire too. Why is it being left to
GB to talk about this , surly DM is able to
Speak about his plans as after all he is in charge of all football matters according to GB .
If you went to the AGM tonight you might get answers to that x
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A couple of quality signings before the weekend and the mood will change.
There is no mention of any , Only the desire too. Why is it being left to
GB to talk about this , surly DM is able to
Speak about his plans as after all he is in charge of all football matters according to GB .
Darren might be a tad busy getting those players in you say we can’t afford
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
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A couple of quality signings before the weekend and the mood will change.
There is no mention of any , Only the desire too. Why is it being left to
GB to talk about this , surly DM is able to
Speak about his plans as after all he is in charge of all football matters according to GB .
If you went to the AGM tonight you might get answers to that x
Hopefully someone will be kind enough to share with those that could make it and hopefully it will be on ifollow
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Doesnt the club usually do live tweets from these agms? Absolutely nothing so far, other than a couple of photos.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
I'd be happy with 4.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
Course the club aren't panicking Martin they don't won't us to go up and won't spend any money remember 😉
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Doesnt the club usually do live tweets from these agms? Absolutely nothing so far, other than a couple of photos.
They live tweet the meet the owners event. But I had hoped they would this if not hoped it's been filmed for I follow or youtube
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This wasn’t a meet the owners event it was a supporters club AGM.?
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There are some seriously impatient people on here.
We appoint Darren Moore a fantastic coup imo and it would seem to have been a very popular choice from a large majority of our supporters.
Now as he hasn’t signed anyone except Sheaf there is a mass panic by a large number on here.
Do you think DM is happy with the current squad? Give him some credit for heavens sake. What do you you think he has been doing since he arrived?
He has been assessing the strengths and weakness’s of the squad so that he can get the right players to fit the needs of the squad.
Would be a very foolish to just come in and start signing any old so & so just to appease some of you lot in the short term which could turn out to be a disaster.
Let’s get the right players in the time it takes whatever that may entail, not the wrong ones in a hurry.
PATIENCE PATIENCE PATIENCE it will happen.
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This wasn’t a meet the owners event it was a supporters club AGM.?
That’s right I was just confirming that they live tweet the meet the owners just giving clarity to redarmy.
Like I say I was hoping that we may get some snippets of info but obviously not unfortunately
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
Bore off
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
See my post above. That’s the reason.
The group of signings were GM’s not DM’s that is another reason.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
What the absolute f**k.??
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
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Still looks like were not going to bring players in after tonight sounds like were happy with the squad weve got im not confident but hopefully the lads prove me wrong. We need at least 4 or 5 more signings tbh.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
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#TeamRedJ x
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Nah
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Nah
Clear case of keyboard warrior syndrome here.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
So that’s youngsters from premier league clubs. Let’s hope he can find another Kane and Wilkes. I guess with his knowledge of under 23 football, he will know who to target.... I do feel though that we need a few experienced players of our own too though. With everyone that has gone this summer, they should be a good healthy budget for Moore to play with.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Nah
Clear case of keyboard warrior syndrome here.
Oh aye. Definitely. Have a nice evening spadge x
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
So that’s youngsters from premier league clubs. Let’s hope he can find another Kane and Wilkes. I guess with his knowledge of under 23 football, he will know who to target.... I do feel though that we need a few experienced players of our own too though. With everyone that has gone this summer, they should be a good healthy budget for Moore to play with.
That was mentioned, he has been made aware that the money is there if he needs it.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
So that’s youngsters from premier league clubs. Let’s hope he can find another Kane and Wilkes. I guess with his knowledge of under 23 football, he will know who to target.... I do feel though that we need a few experienced players of our own too though. With everyone that has gone this summer, they should be a good healthy budget for Moore to play with.
That was mentioned, he has been made aware that the money is there if he needs it.
Can you see anything happening this week or will it be a case of wait until a day or 2 before the first game like with Kane last year and houghton and mason previously?
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
So that’s youngsters from premier league clubs. Let’s hope he can find another Kane and Wilkes. I guess with his knowledge of under 23 football, he will know who to target.... I do feel though that we need a few experienced players of our own too though. With everyone that has gone this summer, they should be a good healthy budget for Moore to play with.
That was mentioned, he has been made aware that the money is there if he needs it.
Can you see anything happening this week or will it be a case of wait until a day or 2 before the first game like with Kane last year and houghton and mason previously?
I try not to go into detail about players. There's no point if I can't repeat what I'm told. So, we discussed the general situation and how DM was approaching recruitment. Nothing too specific, but talks are going ahead, DM has plenty of support from within the game and something should happen soon, but it may go into next week depending on others rather than us. But make no mistake, things are being investigated, looked at, discussed etc etc. DM knows what he wants.
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Spent some time today chatting with the club about a range of issues.
Everything is in hand, don't worry!
I know you can’t say specific details but can you expand on what was discussed ?
We covered an awful lot of ground today, across a lot of different topic areas, which is quite normal for us. But when discussing players it was clear that DM has 4 in his sights, but he will take his time. Some of those he needs are currently on tour etc, so it will take a few days to sort out.
But there's definitely no panicking on the clubs behalf.
So that’s youngsters from premier league clubs. Let’s hope he can find another Kane and Wilkes. I guess with his knowledge of under 23 football, he will know who to target.... I do feel though that we need a few experienced players of our own too though. With everyone that has gone this summer, they should be a good healthy budget for Moore to play with.
That was mentioned, he has been made aware that the money is there if he needs it.
Can you see anything happening this week or will it be a case of wait until a day or 2 before the first game like with Kane last year and houghton and mason previously?
I try not to go into detail about players. There's no point if I can't repeat what I'm told. So, we discussed the general situation and how DM was approaching recruitment. Nothing too specific, but talks are going ahead, DM has plenty of support from within the game and something should happen soon, but it may go into next week depending on others rather than us. But make no mistake, things are being investigated, looked at, discussed etc etc. DM knows what he wants.
That’s good to hear. A lot of fans, my self included can see we are a fair bit short if we are to have a serious chance of promotion again this season and with time ticking on, are justified in being worried due to a lack of transfer activity.
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Even the most optimistic of fans would have thought we would have signed at least a couple by now, but being told it could be next week.
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Even the most optimistic of fans would have thought we would have signed at least a couple by now, but being told it could be next week.
He ain't going to sign anybody just to please you, that's painfully obvious.
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to be fair SM you did state on here that we had a number of players lined up to sign a couple of weeks ago and signings that would be ones that would excite us.
But two weeks later Moore states he’s still trying to find the correct players to sign.
Moore also stated when he was first appointed that he knew that a lot of last years squad had now left and would need replacing.
It’s just the time of year, and there’s no games to take the concentration off signings, but there does seem to be cross messages coming from the club, from a couple of weeks ago to now
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Even the most optimistic of fans would have thought we would have signed at least a couple by now, but being told it could be next week.
He ain't going to sign anybody just to please you, that's painfully obvious.
Ok spin doctor
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Even the most optimistic of fans would have thought we would have signed at least a couple by now, but being told it could be next week.
That’s probably me! ( most optimistic fan)
and you are wrong.....I’m not sat there gnawing my knuckles , screaming at the blank pages of our recent transfer activity.,
I’m sat here wondering how people can be so reactive to “no bad” news!
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I’m not denying the squad is a little thin at the moment but to say we haven’t signed anyone is factually incorrect. To date James, Halliday, Gomes signed Sheaf on loan.
Premier teams have not named their squads yet so there will be plenty available
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
We always have a fixed budget? I guess it would be 18 man budget at the top quality of player but we can dilute it and get 24 man budget at a weaker quality. That's how budgets work.
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With the funds available scenario yet again appearing for its annual statement, the lack of expenditure over several years means we must have enough for messi now.... it all makes sense.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
You have your fixed viewpoint and have no intention of changing that viewpoint because you can't see or refuse to explore other alternatives. You cannot get your head around what you think are mixed messages. You cannot reason why that might be therefore there has to be a conspiracy/an agenda to hide what you believe is the truth.
That's fine, we understand your viewpoint. You don't have to repeat it every day.
DM is a much more qualified and respected coach than any of us and is developing his strategy to achieve success. His methods may differ to those you might expect. There are different approaches to achieving the same thing.
There is no guarantee for success but I trust his judgement and believe he has as much, if not more chance of succeeding than his recent predecessors.
Sit back, relax, enjoy the rest of the summer, see how things unfold and try not to nit pick and reinterpret everything you hear or read.
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And if you need any further clarification of this, refer to Jonathan's post on the other thread.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
The point is the tone of the comments, the sarcastic veiled digs at the club, the suggestion that there's no desire to get into the Championship. It's dull, tiresome, boring and wrong. If the club decide that the current squad is good enough for promotion then Im happy to go with their opinion over that of supporters who've absolutely no idea whatsoever about running a football club.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
The point is the tone of the comments, the sarcastic veiled digs at the club, the suggestion that there's no desire to get into the Championship. It's dull, tiresome, boring and wrong. If the club decide that the current squad is good enough for promotion then Im happy to go with their opinion over that of supporters who've absolutely no idea whatsoever about running a football club.
I agree with most of what you say except the last sentence - there’s no indication that the club think the squad as it stands is good enough for promotion. If the window had shut then you’d possibly be right but I just can’t see us embarking on the season and aiming for promotion with what we have.
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to be fair SM you did state on here that we had a number of players lined up to sign a couple of weeks ago and signings that would be ones that would excite us.
But two weeks later Moore states he’s still trying to find the correct players to sign.
Moore also stated when he was first appointed that he knew that a lot of last years squad had now left and would need replacing.
It’s just the time of year, and there’s no games to take the concentration off signings, but there does seem to be cross messages coming from the club, from a couple of weeks ago to now
I have to agree with you on this Dickos.
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to be fair SM you did state on here that we had a number of players lined up to sign a couple of weeks ago and signings that would be ones that would excite us.
But two weeks later Moore states he’s still trying to find the correct players to sign.
Moore also stated when he was first appointed that he knew that a lot of last years squad had now left and would need replacing.
It’s just the time of year, and there’s no games to take the concentration off signings, but there does seem to be cross messages coming from the club, from a couple of weeks ago to now
Yes you're right. But I can only report back what I was told, and during discussions with Gavin that's the words he used. So, we did sign one of them, in Ben Sheaf, but Middleton has been passed over as Gavin confirmed last week.
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SM everything you state on here doesnt go with what was said last last night.Your lying and why would the club and Baldwin relay the transfer plans to you
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SM everything you state on here doesnt go with what was said last last night.Your lying and why would the club and Baldwin relay the transfer plans to you
The only decent report of what was said last night has come from Jonathan who has confirmed that what was said does align with what I was told.
I can see me and you are going to get on very well on this forum if you continue to get personal.
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The managers hardly going to say we need at least 4 or 5 1st team players. Him stating that he's happy at present gives the team we have a lift, whilst the u23 players might start to think if I really get my head down I could have a chance this season. I'm sure quietly behind the scenes he's working on additions.
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This is a much wider point but we have a squad including fringe players of around 22 or so. If they are not good enough to play then why are we paying them? Moore must surely be right in that we have to have faith in some of these lads otherwise we are just leaking money for no reason.
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How good is Moore’s knowledge of players at our level? He will be starting from scratch I think. While at WBA he will have been looking at a completely different level of player.
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How good is Moore’s knowledge of players at our level? He will be starting from scratch I think. While at WBA he will have been looking at a completely different level of player.
From what I gather DM has a good knowledge of U23 players, both in the Premiership and the Championship. This was the level at which he spent most time coaching prior to being promoted to Manager of WBA.
So I'd like to think he knows some good young players at clubs in the top two leagues who could be available either as loans or permanent signings for Rovers.
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He should have good knowledge of the u23 leagues, maybe he thinks a few of ours can hold their own and develop in the 1st team?
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This is a much wider point but we have a squad including fringe players of around 22 or so. If they are not good enough to play then why are we paying them? Moore must surely be right in that we have to have faith in some of these lads otherwise we are just leaking money for no reason.
Every squad in the country will have players that are there as cover
Even under sod we had a number of players that we used just to cover injuries and suspensions.
It’s naive to think just because we have a squad of players that we shouldn’t be trying to improve on them and also to think that just because they aren’t good enough to play week in week out that we should not pay them
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SM why would Baldwin relay important private transfer info to only one person. If he does do that why not let all fans know by putting out a statement or a interview.
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SM why would Baldwin relay important private transfer info to only one person. If he does do that why not let all fans know by putting out a statement or a interview.
You obviously don't know the relationship which SM has with the Club and the roles he fulfils on behalf of fans.
Perhaps you need to do some swotting up on this before you further embarrass yourself by hurling personal insults at SM or questioning his honesty.
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SM why would Baldwin relay important private transfer info to only one person. If he does do that why not let all fans know by putting out a statement or a interview.
You can tell the schools have broken up cant you........
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It’s ok bringing u23s in when you’ve got nothing better infront of them... recipe for disaster.... would the people in the know like to reveal the list of quality signings we’re not making now???
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
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It’s ok bringing u23s in when you’ve got nothing better infront of them... recipe for disaster.... would the people in the know like to reveal the list of quality signings we’re not making now???
Kane and Wilks weren’t so bad were they?
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Im not giving SM any personal insults im just asking a question as im confused with all the different answers coming from this forum,the club and the fans wasnt intending to get personal.
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SM everything you state on here doesnt go with what was said last last night.Your lying and why would the club and Baldwin relay the transfer plans to you
I don't get easily ( the latest trend of) embarrassed but I am for you...…...
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Then I suggest you dont accuse people of lieing then especially someone who works hard on the fans behalf with the club..
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It’s ok bringing u23s in when you’ve got nothing better infront of them... recipe for disaster.... would the people in the know like to reveal the list of quality signings we’re not making now???
Let's go out and buy a load of players now, this will sort everything out surely?!
This is the problem with football today, everything has to be now or yesterday and managers have to go out and buy a quick fix rather than develop what they've got. I know Chelsea & Rovers are miles apart but I can remember when Salah & De Bruyne couldn't get a look in under Jose. Think their transfer ban might be a blessing in disquise this season, Lampards got nothing to lose expectations are low and he will turn to youth which the fans will identify with.
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I dont know who he is and im not slating him for his work he does with the club i was asking a simple question but everyone on this group uses the "dont get personal" i was never getting personal in the first place.
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I dont know who he is and im not slating him for his work he does with the club i was asking a simple question but everyone on this group uses the "dont get personal" i was never getting personal in the first place.
There's a huge clique on here mate. If you dare to question anything the club or SM do, then you're immidately shot down.
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SM why would Baldwin relay important private transfer info to only one person. If he does do that why not let all fans know by putting out a statement or a interview.
The VSC has a good relationship with the board and regularly keeps in touch. SM is the VSC representative (can't remember his exact title) who does this so he speaks to Gavin regularly and feeds back. It's a good role to have a saves us from self harming.
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It’s ok bringing u23s in when you’ve got nothing better infront of them... recipe for disaster.... would the people in the know like to reveal the list of quality signings we’re not making now???
What would the point in that be?
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It’s great if youth get an opportunity but they have to be good enough we’ve offered deals to youngsters and most end up getting released after they have been offered a pro deal about time some of them grasped an amazing opportunity and kick on
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Can we expect anything this week then in terms of signings. We need a Cb A Cm A winger another striker also another goalkeeper.
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Why do we need a goalkeeper? Lawlors no 1 and Jones is highly thought of I believe. Injuries to either of these and we can fetch an emergency loan in
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Can we expect anything this week then in terms of signings. We need a Cb A Cm A winger another striker also another goalkeeper.
Assistant manager this week. Signings might be longer, as some are on tour.
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In reality we don’t need much, I think it’s quality rather than quantity.
We need two players that will be in our starting 11.
Other than that we can make additions to fill the squad.
But we do need 2 forward thinking players that will be pushing for our starting 11.
The back 4 is good, the midfield is good, both these departments need bolstering in terms of cover but we definitely need attack minded players to get into our side
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
God, give it a rest eh? You’re clearly on a wind up and you’re making yourself look a bit daft now. If you want to troll get yoursen on Twitter
So he was wrong then .... there are signings coming in ? Let this sink in ., GB tells only what you need to hear and that we have a funds available but will not say if there for loans or signings . The budget was agreed on an 18 man squad and on a fixed budget . Players that have come in were agreed before DM arrived and players leaving the same . DM took the job on face value and will work with what he has unless a major change happens ie injuries or Marquis/ Whiteman departures . So until this occurs loans if and when we need them .
We always have a fixed budget? I guess it would be 18 man budget at the top quality of player but we can dilute it and get 24 man budget at a weaker quality. That's how budgets work.
So LESS is MORE ?
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Well said dicko, think we will be solid at the back this season especially with the new full backs we will be much more adaptable. Think the snake mentioned before he left that a couple of the u23s were going to be used as cover at the back and he expected them to be ready to step up to the 1st team and push for a regular starting place.
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Hopefully well get some signings in today or tomorrow
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I think a big part of it comes from Liam Hoden being off on his jollies. A lot of the time he's reassuring people stuff is happening behind the scenes and sometimes he gives specifics out that we don't get anywhere else. As he's off, it gives the impression stuff isn't moving behind the scenes, but I'm sure it is. I doubt GB and DM are sat in Belle Vue Bar with a Fab lolly, put it that way.
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This is a much wider point but we have a squad including fringe players of around 22 or so. If they are not good enough to play then why are we paying them? Moore must surely be right in that we have to have faith in some of these lads otherwise we are just leaking money for no reason.
Every squad in the country will have players that are there as cover
Even under sod we had a number of players that we used just to cover injuries and suspensions.
It’s naive to think just because we have a squad of players that we shouldn’t be trying to improve on them and also to think that just because they aren’t good enough to play week in week out that we should not pay them
Yes - on that basis then there should not be panic that we have not signed yet even more players. If they are in squad they should have either currently or potential to play in first team.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
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This is a much wider point but we have a squad including fringe players of around 22 or so. If they are not good enough to play then why are we paying them? Moore must surely be right in that we have to have faith in some of these lads otherwise we are just leaking money for no reason.
Every squad in the country will have players that are there as cover
Even under sod we had a number of players that we used just to cover injuries and suspensions.
It’s naive to think just because we have a squad of players that we shouldn’t be trying to improve on them and also to think that just because they aren’t good enough to play week in week out that we should not pay them
Yes - on that basis then there should not be panic that we have not signed yet even more players. If they are in squad they should have either currently or potential to play in first team.
Yes of course but that goes for every squad on the country. I’m sure all their players will be sufficient to play in the first team.
But if you’re wanting to improve then you sign better players, it’s simple really.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
I'm 45 years old fella. Although thanks for confirming that I don't look it.
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
I'm 45 years old fella. Although thanks for confirming that I don't look it.
Aye, I'm 42 so not your sunshine.
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Fight fight
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
I'm 45 years old fella. Although thanks for confirming that I don't look it.
Aye, I'm 42 so not your sunshine.
Who's got the biggest wanger, though?
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
I'm 45 years old fella. Although thanks for confirming that I don't look it.
Aye, I'm 42 so not your sunshine.
Who's got the biggest wanger, though?
Leave me out of it.😉
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Well we’re all waiting for this group of quality signings who were lined up to come in, only the amazing will Atkinson has been mentioned, destination championship???????
You could've gone along tonight and asked questions if you're that arsed.
Maybe some people have other commitments? I'm currently 200 miles away, so because I couldn't be arsed to go, does that mean I shouldn't know what was asked?
Someone else full of their own self importance.
Sorry, forgot to look into my crystal ball before posting to see exactly where you were and what you having for tea tonight.
Jog on pal. You're really not funny.
Good thing I wasn't trying to amuse you then eh.
Maybe try keeping your mouth shut then.
Ooo you're hard
That I am, sunshine.
😂😂😂 OK young un.
I'm 45 years old fella. Although thanks for confirming that I don't look it.
Aye, I'm 42 so not your sunshine.
Who's got the biggest wanger, though?
Not me, I've worn my down with excessive use over the years.
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They do say masturbation stunts the growth.
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But his hand is massive lol
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Well none of us saw that coming did we?
Priority is up front he said. Just goes to show you have to take these things with a pinch of salt. DM is his own man and he will do what's necessary to improve the squad. Let him get on with it.
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Yea never know thats what i like about him doesnt give anything away 1 minute were looking at no one the next weve got a keeper and 3 trialists hopefully a couple more signings over the weekend.