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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: GazLaz on July 24, 2019, 11:30:44 am
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Won’t be going to Sunderland by the looks of things. They are signing Marc McNulty.
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Gone?
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He won’t be going to a fellow league 1 side. 4 championship clubs want him but non have made firm offers up to now
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Hope the fee is around the 2 million mark and the board give it all to Moore to re-invest
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He won’t be going to a fellow league 1 side. 4 championship clubs want him but non have made firm offers up to now
Looks like he’s chosen Sunderland over charlton
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Maybe this is why DM hasn’t signed anyone yet?
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I personally don't think he will be going anywhere, we know what we want for him and no-one wants to pay £2mil plus for a player who is out of contract in a year, get the goals here, get promoted, new contract at the Rovers, its a ballsy strategy, if he wants to play in the championship, prove it, get us up and enjoy himself
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We either sell now or give him a new long contract.
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We either sell now or give him a new long contract.
We might have the option of neither.....
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U can’t make him sign a new deal though
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If we are only offered peanuts which seems always to be the case we should keep him for the season it’s worth 650 k to us if we get promoted
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
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In fairness to John no one would begrudge him a move up the league and if he felt the valuation was either too much or blocking a move he really wanted I'm sure he'd put in a transfer request.
Id be amazed if he signs a new contract though and can see him either going in Jan for v little esp if we're having a poor season or for nothing in April if we don't go up
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
There hasn’t many occasions when our players have attracted the attentions of other clubs and make them offer a fee . Circumstances drove Sunderland to make an offer and for what ever the reason the club made a big thing about rejected it . Since then Marquis has been thrown into the lime light and to his credit has kept own council and not advertised his desire to leave or handed in a transfer request .
Marquis career has grown and he has scored plenty of goals and gained awards by the Football Authorities and still he has not thrown his dummy out . Yet we keep talking as though he has been caught climbing the fence trying to escape and it’s only a matter of time he succeeds . The club want Marquis to stay but realise financially it’s going to be toll order as his replacement isn't going to be found without big money , so they put a sensible price on him but they will let go sooner and take what’s offers as loosing him for nothing may well be where they could see themselves.
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
There hasn’t many occasions when our players have attracted the attentions of other clubs and make them offer a fee . Circumstances drove Sunderland to make an offer and for what ever the reason the club made a big thing about rejected it . Since then Marquis has been thrown into the lime light and to his credit has kept own council and not advertised his desire to leave or handed in a transfer request .
Marquis career has grown and he has scored plenty of goals and gained awards by the Football Authorities and still he has not thrown his dummy out . Yet we keep talking as though he has been caught climbing the fence trying to escape and it’s only a matter of time he succeeds . The club want Marquis to stay but realise financially it’s going to be toll order as his replacement isn't going to be found without big money , so they put a sensible price on him but they will let go sooner and take what’s offers as loosing him for nothing may well be where they could see themselves.
Only if you assume the club is the stumbling block, Clubs have enquired and met the Clubs valuation the fact he is still with us isn't because we have over valued him.
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
There hasn’t many occasions when our players have attracted the attentions of other clubs and make them offer a fee . Circumstances drove Sunderland to make an offer and for what ever the reason the club made a big thing about rejected it . Since then Marquis has been thrown into the lime light and to his credit has kept own council and not advertised his desire to leave or handed in a transfer request .
Marquis career has grown and he has scored plenty of goals and gained awards by the Football Authorities and still he has not thrown his dummy out . Yet we keep talking as though he has been caught climbing the fence trying to escape and it’s only a matter of time he succeeds . The club want Marquis to stay but realise financially it’s going to be toll order as his replacement isn't going to be found without big money , so they put a sensible price on him but they will let go sooner and take what’s offers as loosing him for nothing may well be where they could see themselves.
Only if you assume the club is the stumbling block, Clubs have enquired and met the Clubs valuation the fact he is still with us isn't because we have over valued him.
I thought there hadn’t been any firm bids?
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
There hasn’t many occasions when our players have attracted the attentions of other clubs and make them offer a fee . Circumstances drove Sunderland to make an offer and for what ever the reason the club made a big thing about rejected it . Since then Marquis has been thrown into the lime light and to his credit has kept own council and not advertised his desire to leave or handed in a transfer request .
Marquis career has grown and he has scored plenty of goals and gained awards by the Football Authorities and still he has not thrown his dummy out . Yet we keep talking as though he has been caught climbing the fence trying to escape and it’s only a matter of time he succeeds . The club want Marquis to stay but realise financially it’s going to be toll order as his replacement isn't going to be found without big money , so they put a sensible price on him but they will let go sooner and take what’s offers as loosing him for nothing may well be where they could see themselves.
Only if you assume the club is the stumbling block, Clubs have enquired and met the Clubs valuation the fact he is still with us isn't because we have over valued him.
I thought there hadn’t been any firm bids?
If that’s your question ... Then how come their saying it meet the clubs valuation . You can’t have one without the other .
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Bear in mind how ‘approaches’ happen.
It is probably almost never the case that unsolicited a club sends a detailed bid with a specific figure involved ie a firm bid.
Will more likely be range of approaches from calling up and enquirying if they are available and what broad fee is being talked about, or with a lead from agent. Could be a call saying “if we were to offer xxxxx amount then would you be interested in talking?”. Could be that “we heard that xxxx amount was offered by xxxx club so how much extra would you want to exclusively deal with us?”. Possibly a few clubs have called to express interest in Marquis but also have other business so will leave it as “let us know if anything moves in next xx days / weeks”.
So asking questions of club like “has there been any formal bids?” will tell you nothing. Better to ask “what contact have we had over Marquis?”.
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My mate heard he was coming back to us. He heard it in the car park at The Den, so it must be true.
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He's got a deadline day panic buy from a Championship club written all over him. I just hope we have identified replacements.
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Do we need to sell him to strengthen the team or are funds already available
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🙄
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Well something needs to happen either way. He gets the move he wants, the club get a return on him, everyones happy and we have funds to find a replacement. If he's staying then that needs to be sorted and quickly if Saturdays game was anything to go by.
It was embarrassing to be honest watching him on the pitch, falling/tripping over feigning fouls, mistiming his runs and play acting and generally being very disruptive. We cannot have a CF who clearly doesn't want to be here anymore play acting around in friendlies, he helps no one and is off putting and disruptive to the rest of the team around him. No wonder we don't look like scoring when we have him playing at CF, he's not really there on the pitch, his head is elsewhere and it shows. How can the front 4 work as a unit if attacks and build up play constantly fall down around your CF, he is the foil to the side that when attacking everyone plays off.
It needs sorting.
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
We don’t have to buy if we don’t sell him
COYR
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Has nobody been paying attention to what’s been put out there by the club.. we do not need to sell anyone and funds are readily available for DM
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
If this hypothetical scenario is even true, how many other millionaires are out there who are willing and able to fund our loss making club?
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Obviously we do..... look at the evidence, all the big earners getting replaced with kids and loans you lot need to smell the gravy there’s clearly something not right.... I might be wrong but I severely doubt it, if they were serious about the championship they could do a lot more but they don’t want it it’s obvious, it’s time they went.
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Lol
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Which big earners have been replaced by kids?
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What is enough?
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Obviously we do..... look at the evidence, all the big earners getting replaced with kids and loans you lot need to smell the gravy there’s clearly something not right.... I might be wrong but I severely doubt it, if they were serious about the championship they could do a lot more but they don’t want it it’s obvious, it’s time they went.
No you are very wrong as usual
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
I take it you have a few million quid tucked away or a secret investor in mind?
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Well something needs to happen either way. He gets the move he wants, the club get a return on him, everyones happy and we have funds to find a replacement. If he's staying then that needs to be sorted and quickly if Saturdays game was anything to go by.
It was embarrassing to be honest watching him on the pitch, falling/tripping over feigning fouls, mistiming his runs and play acting and generally being very disruptive. We cannot have a CF who clearly doesn't want to be here anymore play acting around in friendlies, he helps no one and is off putting and disruptive to the rest of the team around him. No wonder we don't look like scoring when we have him playing at CF, he's not really there on the pitch, his head is elsewhere and it shows. How can the front 4 work as a unit if attacks and build up play constantly fall down around your CF, he is the foil to the side that when attacking everyone plays off.
It needs sorting.
How do you propose the club sort it? Water board him into leaving or signing a new contract? The ball is in John’s court he knows we don’t want to sell him so he has the upper hand
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You got a pen dickos!! It’s my opinion and it’s clear to see something isnt right, if they wanted championship football they’d make an effort.... unfortunately they don’t mate
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Is a village missing someone?
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You got a pen dickos!! It’s my opinion and it’s clear to see something isnt right, if they wanted championship football they’d make an effort.... unfortunately they don’t mate
I can’t remember any kids coming through and taking the place of a high earner that we’ve got rid of
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It will now watch,
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It will now watch,
Let’s hope so as that would mean our young players would need to be of a very high quality, and that’s something I think most of us would love to see. Pleased to see you are finally optimistic about something.
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
There you are!
You are like a pit bull on a Gypo’s leg.....
I have found myself looking out for your pearls of wisdom.....and you never disappoint...
Some on here think you are a little leftist by the way!
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Dont think Marquis will be going anywhere.He was in B and Q on monday buying stones for his garden .He wouldnt be botheted if he was leaving
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
Bring it on!
Or continue posting bolloxs.
Thought about joining BB I off topic?
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Dont think Marquis will be going anywhere.He was in B and Q on monday buying stones for his garden .He wouldnt be botheted if he was leaving
Getting house ready for sale kerb appeal means a lot
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
Bring it on!
Or continue posting bolloxs.
Thought about joining BB I off topic?
Oy! I heard that; I'll f*cking tell him.
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
If they do one then the budget is reduced by 2 million a year, genius.
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Dont think Marquis will be going anywhere.He was in B and Q on monday buying stones for his garden .He wouldnt be botheted if he was leaving
Yeah coz I am sure he can’t afford to leave a few bags of stones behind if he has to move house.
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I asked Gavin Baldwin last night specifically about this question, the answer was we don't have to sell anyone and contracts will be discussed with the board shortly. Only if offers meet our valuation will they be considered, and at the moment nobody is for sale.
There hasn’t many occasions when our players have attracted the attentions of other clubs and make them offer a fee . Circumstances drove Sunderland to make an offer and for what ever the reason the club made a big thing about rejected it . Since then Marquis has been thrown into the lime light and to his credit has kept own council and not advertised his desire to leave or handed in a transfer request .
Marquis career has grown and he has scored plenty of goals and gained awards by the Football Authorities and still he has not thrown his dummy out . Yet we keep talking as though he has been caught climbing the fence trying to escape and it’s only a matter of time he succeeds . The club want Marquis to stay but realise financially it’s going to be toll order as his replacement isn't going to be found without big money , so they put a sensible price on him but they will let go sooner and take what’s offers as loosing him for nothing may well be where they could see themselves.
Only if you assume the club is the stumbling block, Clubs have enquired and met the Clubs valuation the fact he is still with us isn't because we have over valued him.
I thought there hadn’t been any firm bids?
That story keeps changing.
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Not an impossible scenario:-
A certain player outside Darren Moore's office.
Knock, knock,
"Who's there?"......Sorry, couldn't resist!
"Come in"
Player walks in & sits down.
"Darren...sorry, boss. I've scored 20+ goals for Rovers in the past 3 seasons. I know Sunderland offered £2m for me in2018/9 the winter transfer break & I was perfectly happy to turn down that offer, although it no doubt would have given me a better contract financially, but along with your estimation of my current value & the fact I want to play Championship Football, it was an offer we all agreed at the time was not in the long term, beneficial to both of us. I'd hoped to have been playing Championship football this season with the Rovers, but it turned out that wasn't to be.
I'm here to ask, if no Championship Club offers me a contract before the end of this transfer window that suits both me & the club, are you in a position to sign a forward player that will give me the support I need on the pitch in order to score 20 goals for you this season?"
And Darren Moore says......
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Not an impossible scenario:-
A certain player outside Darren Moore's office.
Knock, knock,
"Who's there?"......Sorry, couldn't resist!
"Come in"
Player walks in & sits down.
"Darren...sorry, boss. I've scored 20+ goals for Rovers in the past 3 seasons. I know Sunderland offered £2m for me in2018/9 the winter transfer break & I was perfectly happy to turn down that offer, although it no doubt would have given me a better contract financially, but along with your estimation of my current value & the fact I want to play Championship Football, it was an offer we all agreed at the time was not in the long term, beneficial to both of us. I'd hoped to have been playing Championship football this season with the Rovers, but it turned out that wasn't to be.
I'm here to ask, if no Championship Club offers me a contract before the end of this transfer window that suits both me & the club, are you in a position to sign a forward player that will give me the support I need on the pitch in order to score 20 goals for you this season?"
And Darren Moore says......
.........if the right player becomes available.
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Not an impossible scenario:-
A certain player outside Darren Moore's office.
Knock, knock,
"Who's there?"......Sorry, couldn't resist!
"Come in"
Player walks in & sits down.
"Darren...sorry, boss. I've scored 20+ goals for Rovers in the past 3 seasons. I know Sunderland offered £2m for me in2018/9 the winter transfer break & I was perfectly happy to turn down that offer, although it no doubt would have given me a better contract financially, but along with your estimation of my current value & the fact I want to play Championship Football, it was an offer we all agreed at the time was not in the long term, beneficial to both of us. I'd hoped to have been playing Championship football this season with the Rovers, but it turned out that wasn't to be.
I'm here to ask, if no Championship Club offers me a contract before the end of this transfer window that suits both me & the club, are you in a position to sign a forward player that will give me the support I need on the pitch in order to score 20 goals for you this season?"
And Darren Moore says......
.........if the right player becomes available.
Player walks out rubbing his chin.
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JM looks unfit
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Sorry fella I have no money till you do one.
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JM doesn’t want to be here. He imagined by now he would be playing in the championship
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Not an impossible scenario:-
A certain player outside Darren Moore's office.
Knock, knock,
"Who's there?"......Sorry, couldn't resist!
"Come in"
Player walks in & sits down.
"Darren...sorry, boss. I've scored 20+ goals for Rovers in the past 3 seasons. I know Sunderland offered £2m for me in2018/9 the winter transfer break & I was perfectly happy to turn down that offer, although it no doubt would have given me a better contract financially, but along with your estimation of my current value & the fact I want to play Championship Football, it was an offer we all agreed at the time was not in the long term, beneficial to both of us. I'd hoped to have been playing Championship football this season with the Rovers, but it turned out that wasn't to be.
I'm here to ask, if no Championship Club offers me a contract before the end of this transfer window that suits both me & the club, are you in a position to sign a forward player that will give me the support I need on the pitch in order to score 20 goals for you this season?"
And Darren Moore says......
Yeah!....why not
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That's what Alfie may is for
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JM doesn’t want to be here. He imagined by now he would be playing in the championship
What! A friendly?
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JM doesn’t want to be here. He imagined by now he would be playing in the championship
What! A friendly?
Ok then playing for a championship club
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Marquis was much better than sadlier tonight
If I were him I’d leave he was getting stick off the east stand in a friendly
He should be worshipped with what he’s done for us
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Marquis was much better than sadlier tonight
If I were him I’d leave he was getting stick off the east stand in a friendly
He should be worshipped with what he’s done for us
Last season it was unbelievable how much stick JM got from some people who sit near me in the South Stand.
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He shot a look at someone giving him grief
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It's pathetic really considering what he has done for us.
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It’s pathetic really because as a club we are finding difficult to replace quality players from last season. Yet it will be easy to sign another striker who will score 20 plus goals for us this season.
End of last season we were going to be stronger this season. We were going to build on our success that’s what Grant McCann said. He’s left the club because he said he was ambitious. John Marquis is ambitious and wants to play Championship football he may succeed he may fail but he wants to take that chance.
At the moment we do not have a strong squad we haven’t as yet built on our success we had last season Darren may get the players we need. In the mean time why do supporters take out their frustrations on not being able to score on John Marquis when we do not have another player in our present squad that looks like scoring or providing the goals we will need.
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It’s pathetic really because as a club we are finding difficult to replace quality players from last season. Yet it will be easy to sign another striker who will score 20 plus goals for us this season.
End of last season we were going to be stronger this season. We were going to build on our success that’s what Grant McCann said. He’s left the club because he said he was ambitious. John Marquis is ambitious and wants to play Championship football he may succeed he may fail but he wants to take that chance.
At the moment we do not have a strong squad we haven’t as yet built on our success we had last season Darren may get the players we need. In the mean time why do supporters take out their frustrations on not being able to score on John Marquis when we do not have another player in our present squad that looks like scoring or providing the goals we will need.
“We haven’t as yet built on the success we had last season”.
Quite difficult to do as the season hasn’t started yet.
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It’s pathetic really because as a club we are finding difficult to replace quality players from last season. Yet it will be easy to sign another striker who will score 20 plus goals for us this season.
End of last season we were going to be stronger this season. We were going to build on our success that’s what Grant McCann said. He’s left the club because he said he was ambitious. John Marquis is ambitious and wants to play Championship football he may succeed he may fail but he wants to take that chance.
At the moment we do not have a strong squad we haven’t as yet built on our success we had last season Darren may get the players we need. In the mean time why do supporters take out their frustrations on not being able to score on John Marquis when we do not have another player in our present squad that looks like scoring or providing the goals we will need.
“We haven’t as yet built on the success we had last season”.
Quite difficult to do as the season hasn’t started yet.
I appreciate that but building blocks to that success apart from bringing in a manager and a player on loan from Arsenal we have as yet not started.
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If we have to sell to buy it surely the cue for the current owners to do one I’m afraid enough is enough
We don’t have to buy if we don’t sell him
COYR
yes we do 1 strike at the club is poor enough but who is going to take him if he is going to play like he does not want to be here
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This time last season the starting 11 was also looking fragile and then we added Wilks, Kane, Crawford and sadlier.
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This time last season the starting 11 was also looking fragile and then we added Wilks, Kane, Crawford and sadlier.
Crawford signed on 10th July.
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Similar time to sheaf signing then, don’t recall many other signings last summer until the last minute
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Yes but Crawford signing was two weeks BEFORE this time last summer.
Also, Saddlier didn’t join us until December.
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I know all this,
My point being before the season started last season we weren’t much better off than we are now.
At this point we had no sadlier, no Wilks and no Kane,
Yet we had an outstanding season really,
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I know all this,
My point being before the season started last season we weren’t much better off than we are now.
At this point we had no sadlier, no Wilks and no Kane,
Yet we had an outstanding season really,
Wilkes signed on the 11th of July
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I know all this,
My point being before the season started last season we weren’t much better off than we are now.
At this point we had no sadlier, no Wilks and no Kane,
Yet we had an outstanding season really,
Agreed that Wilkes and Kane were outstanding signings.
It was not accurate though to suggest that Crawford was signed so close to the start of the season as those two.
Hopefully we will get at least one more loan signing as good before we kick off against Gillingham.
As you have previously said, we do need other quality players before then too.
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We do, we definitely do.
I just think we are maybe forgetting we’ve already signed 4 players that could be in our starting 11.
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Yes we do need to utilise the loan market well this summer but surly we have plenty of the budget left to make permanent signings too, not heard anything to suggest this though
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Apart from Young first year professionals since DF left we have signed
Crawford, Sadlier, Halliday, James and Gomez permanently. So to sign quality permanent player or players I don’t see that happening unless we sell John or Ben.
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Are we waiting to sell before we buy?
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I know all this,
My point being before the season started last season we weren’t much better off than we are now.
At this point we had no sadlier, no Wilks and no Kane,
Yet we had an outstanding season really,
Agreed that Wilkes and Kane were outstanding signings.
It was not accurate though to suggest that Crawford was signed so close to the start of the season as those two.
Hopefully we will get at least one more loan signing as good before we kick off against Gillingham.
As you have previously said, we do need other quality players before then too.
Wilks signed on the 11th July.
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
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Are we waiting to sell before we buy?
No, not if you believe what GB was quoted in the DFP website the other day..
You probably don’t..
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
Agree on that. Crawford still suspect with consistency and not much pace behind Marquis - but if Lawlor can up his game that is a very solid back seven definitely.
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
Agree on that. Crawford still suspect with consistency and not much pace behind Marquis - but if Lawlor can up his game that is a very solid back seven definitely.
Crawford would be back up for the 2 holding midfielders for me. No way he can play wide left
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You are right but he hasn’t really established himself anywhere yet due to his consistency issues. Feel we still have to see the real Ali Crawford.
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You are right but he hasn’t really established himself anywhere yet due to his consistency issues. Feel we still have to see the real Ali Crawford.
Yep I agree that there is still more to come from Crawford. I was slightly disappointed with him last season if I’m honest. I do think he stepped up though when whiteman and Kane were out. Hopefully he kicks on this season
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
problem with that team is there is distinct lack of pace
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Sadlier is not exactly slow once he gets on his bike but as you say, and as DM has inferred, Crawford and Copps maybe the weak links in providing sufficient pace, power and goals. Yes, they would probably chip in, as could May but the system is dependent on the three getting up to and beyond the front man and be a threat in and around the box. Blair may provide more pace than Crawford. Copps has the guile, skill and experience but none are prolific enough as it stands.
Whiteman could do a good job in the three but that leaves a hole in the two behind.
In reality, it's someone who can pick up where Wilkes left off and then some depth in key areas for injuries and suspensions.
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Even last night in the friendly, John Marquis dropped back into midfield and played two exquisite cross field 50 yard balls to the player on the far wing. We had players in midfield( Blair and Gomez) who would not have thought of playing that ball, and I am unsure they are capable of doing so.
To give any front player we might have a chance of success , we are desperate for players with more flair and creativity and look to pass forward, than I think those two can provide.
My personal opinion of course, others may disagree.
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Matty Blair is a useful utility player who can cover 2 or 3 positions. He isn’t technically good enough on the ball to play centrally in midfield
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
I'd start Blair ahead of Crawford, otherwise agree with your line-up. Blair can play attacking midfield and is suited to wide areas, whereas Crawford must be a player for the central two, he won't be effective in the attacking trio.
We need a new signing there anyway, and support for Marquis up front. Probably another #10 option in the mould of Rowe plus cover at the back.
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
Agree on that. Crawford still suspect with consistency and not much pace behind Marquis - but if Lawlor can up his game that is a very solid back seven definitely.
Crawford would be back up for the 2 holding midfielders for me. No way he can play wide left
Who’s suggesting he should play wide left?
His best position is amongst the three attacking midfielders, these interchange and cover everywhere on the pitch.
I’ve even put him on the right not the left, unless you think marquis is our goalie and lawlor our striker 🙄
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We do need a couple of additions and then I think we will look pretty strong
Lawlor
Halliday. Anderson. Wright. James
Whiteman Sheaf
Crawford. Copps. Sadlier.
Marquis.
I think it’s the 3 behind marquis where we could do with strengthening or providing other options, although that the area Blair would play for me too.
Agree on that. Crawford still suspect with consistency and not much pace behind Marquis - but if Lawlor can up his game that is a very solid back seven definitely.
Crawford would be back up for the 2 holding midfielders for me. No way he can play wide left
Who’s suggesting he should play wide left?
His best position is amongst the three attacking midfielders, these interchange and cover everywhere on the pitch.
I’ve even put him on the right not the left, unless you think marquis is our goalie and lawlor our striker 🙄
Sorry I ment wide right.. I’ll disagree with you though that his best position is in the front 3 attackers behind marquis. In my opinion he would be better suited to playing in the central 2 midfields.
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Against all the odds, a discussion actually about football has broken out.
Must be the heat.
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For me I would like to see three new players behind John. Pace, height, creativity and goal scorers. Crawford, Copps and Sadlier would be on the bench. Copps would be in there if we could only sign two quality players.
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Matty Blair is a useful utility player who can cover 2 or 3 positions. He isn’t technically good enough on the ball to play centrally in midfield
He can’t pass consistently to play midfield utility player at best to cover right back and front three. Bench sitter
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Blades have today signed Ben Osbourne from Forest for £5m. This could push the Marquis to Forest deal through if the rumours are to believed.
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I'd take 500k and a Tyler Walker for him think he'd be one we could sell again for more than Marquis in the end. if they don't want to sell £2m and a season long loan would sort our replacement out for the season at least
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
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Well he got into the team of the year so I assume that was just a poor game
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I'd take 500k and a Tyler Walker for him think he'd be one we could sell again for more than Marquis in the end. if they don't want to sell £2m and a season long loan would sort our replacement out for the season at least
Thats the kind of signing i’d like to see tbh.
A young lad with potential whose best days should still be to come.
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
[/quoteI watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
You watched him for 1 game presumably on the tellybox and came to that conclusion!!? Strange that, my builder who has been a season ticket hold, for yeats at Mansfield really rated him and he watched him all last season. Think I know whose idea of a decent player I would take
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
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For me I would like to see three new players behind John. Pace, height, creativity and goal scorers. Crawford, Copps and Sadlier would be on the bench. Copps would be in there if we could only sign two quality players.
And if that doesn’t happen are ya just gonna whinge and whine for the whole of the season screaming “ I told you so, I told you so “
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For me we have to hope we can pick up a good loan player or 2 for the attacking area of the side. We haven't got the funds to sign a proven 15-20 goal a season striker. There also isn't many who get that many goals. So we either take a gamble on a lower league striker or we get a prem teams youngster. Even a striker from the conference who gets 20 goals is costing 250 K plus add ons. Lucky for us we have a proven striker we just have to hold on to him. Every side in the league is looking for a goal scorer so I can understand why we haven't found one yet.
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Who says we don’t have the funds.??
Plus, at the moment we have one of the best L1 strikers. If he goes, we definitely would have funds.. a league 1 or lower prolific striker going to another league 1 club is going to cost less than one going to the championship.!
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
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For me we have to hope we can pick up a good loan player or 2 for the attacking area of the side. We haven't got the funds to sign a proven 15-20 goal a season striker. There also isn't many who get that many goals. So we either take a gamble on a lower league striker or we get a prem teams youngster. Even a striker from the conference who gets 20 goals is costing 250 K plus add ons. Lucky for us we have a proven striker we just have to hold on to him. Every side in the league is looking for a goal scorer so I can understand why we haven't found one yet.
Ya said “ we” 7 times?
do you mean Darren Moore the Manager, or we the supporters?
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For me we have to hope we can pick up a good loan player or 2 for the attacking area of the side. We haven't got the funds to sign a proven 15-20 goal a season striker. There also isn't many who get that many goals. So we either take a gamble on a lower league striker or we get a prem teams youngster. Even a striker from the conference who gets 20 goals is costing 250 K plus add ons. Lucky for us we have a proven striker we just have to hold on to him. Every side in the league is looking for a goal scorer so I can understand why we haven't found one yet.
Ya said “ we” 7 times?
do you mean Darren Moore the Manager, or we the supporters?
When we talk about the Rovers, we always refer to them as "we".
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We are all one aren't we?
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It doesn’t matter what “ we “ want....
that way only leads to disappointment and despondency..lol
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
I'm talking in terms of now though, not next year. If we sell Marquis now we can get upwards of £2m for him, far more than 500k.
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If we could get upward 2m then why has no one put in a decent bid or nothing in weeks
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
I'm talking in terms of now though, not next year. If we sell Marquis now we can get upwards of £2m for him, far more than 500k.
I think that you are delusional - if we get £1m for Marquis I think the club will be more than content.
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If he extends his contact and he gets another 20+ then we will get more for him
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If he extends his contact and he gets another 20+ then we will get more for him
Agreed...... we'll probably get another 20+ for him - although I think he has to pass his 11 plus yet
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
What i'm saying is we'd get a replacement we'd probably have to pay a fair bit for (so a chunk of any Marquis money is gone) and he'd have better resale value than Marquis. Don't think forest would go for that anyway probably not much in it between Marquis and Walker in reality
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
I'm talking in terms of now though, not next year. If we sell Marquis now we can get upwards of £2m for him, far more than 500k.
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For me we have to hope we can pick up a good loan player or 2 for the attacking area of the side. We haven't got the funds to sign a proven 15-20 goal a season striker. There also isn't many who get that many goals. So we either take a gamble on a lower league striker or we get a prem teams youngster. Even a striker from the conference who gets 20 goals is costing 250 K plus add ons. Lucky for us we have a proven striker we just have to hold on to him. Every side in the league is looking for a goal scorer so I can understand why we haven't found one yet.
Ya said “ we” 7 times?
do you mean Darren Moore the Manager, or we the supporters?
You have referred to DRFC as we at least twice on another thread.
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
I'm talking in terms of now though, not next year. If we sell Marquis now we can get upwards of £2m for him, far more than 500k.
I think that you are delusional - if we get £1m for Marquis I think the club will be more than content.
How many goals has he scored and how many could he still , I doubt money is the problem . I would imagine JM has been told he could play at a higher level and just wants the opportunity. If he doesn’t go to Championship club then he may just go to a club who will just pay him more money .
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Or he stays at DRFC, main striker who gives his all, would he want to go to a club where he isn’t number 1 striker. We gave him his opportunity and maybe he might repay that. Just a thought !!!!
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Or he stays at DRFC, main striker who gives his all, would he want to go to a club where he isn’t number 1 striker. We gave him his opportunity and maybe he might repay that. Just a thought !!!!
It has been his success that has turned his head and the recognition that went with it . He is a 1st rate player and person . If he starts the season imo he will see it through . It’s endless speculation that creates problems when he hasn’t even put in a transfer request .
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Obviously we do..... look at the evidence, all the big earners getting replaced with kids and loans you lot need to smell the gravy there’s clearly something not right.... I might be wrong but I severely doubt it, if they were serious about the championship they could do a lot more but they don’t want it it’s obvious, it’s time they went.
Wow. What an amazingly ignorant post that is. Truly amazing. And you claim to be a fan? I dare you to ask that at the next MTO.
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We’ve brought in five players haven’t we?
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For me we have to hope we can pick up a good loan player or 2 for the attacking area of the side. We haven't got the funds to sign a proven 15-20 goal a season striker. There also isn't many who get that many goals. So we either take a gamble on a lower league striker or we get a prem teams youngster. Even a striker from the conference who gets 20 goals is costing 250 K plus add ons. Lucky for us we have a proven striker we just have to hold on to him. Every side in the league is looking for a goal scorer so I can understand why we haven't found one yet.
Ya said “ we” 7 times?
do you mean Darren Moore the Manager, or we the supporters?
You have referred to DRFC as we at least twice on another thread.
I know......I do understand context and how to be glib
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I watched Tyler Walker play for Mansfield in play offs against Newport. He was dog shit.
500k!? Walker in exchange is not worth £1m-£1.5m. We'd be getting ripped off in a deal like that.
Not saying Walker wouldn't be a decent signing like, but we can't be selling Marquis for peanuts.
In a years time we won't have a choice...
I'm talking in terms of now though, not next year. If we sell Marquis now we can get upwards of £2m for him, far more than 500k.
I think that you are delusional - if we get £1m for Marquis I think the club will be more than content.
I'm not delusional, Marquis is worth more than £1m in this market, even with only a year left on his deal. £500k is laughable unless you're swapping him for a proven goalscorer, and a prospect like Walker isn't that.
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The way things are going he will be worth nowt at the end of the season and we’ll have a disgruntled unhappy player not wanting to play for a club that’s restricted his career
LETS JUST DORT IT OUT QUICKLY for him and us
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The way things are going he will be worth nowt at the end of the season and we’ll have a disgruntled unhappy player not wanting to play for a club that’s restricted his career
LETS JUST DORT IT OUT QUICKLY for him and us
How are the club restricting his career?
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The way things are going he will be worth nowt at the end of the season and we’ll have a disgruntled unhappy player not wanting to play for a club that’s restricted his career
LETS JUST DORT IT OUT QUICKLY for him and us
I think he may be a bit disgruntled now.....and the only restricting I can see is the valuation not being met....but if some of the championship clubs that have been mentioned are still interested, and want to table a bid that’s acceptable , they will be getting a great striker ...... I would prefer him to sign an extension ....just don’t think that will happen
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Not in the squad today. Ominous?
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Who is in the squad.?
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Think it’s a big sign he might be going.
Glad to see Whiteman back in though!
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Or maybe he has a slight injury - like Whiteman recently..
Notice there are three triallists on the bench, I expect they would be the ones training with us.?
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Fb saying that the QPR loan keeper is part of a deal involving marquis?
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:suicide:
Not in the squad today. Ominous?
Saw him at Cantley shops yesterday morning and seemed to be limping a little when he got out his motor
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Not in the squad today. Ominous?
Really! I'd say so.
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Didn't he take full part in the open training session yesterday? Moore also distinctly said after the Huddersfield game there were no injuries in the squad.
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Dearne valley rover. If you were him and the club had prevented you moving on for bigger wages etc I think you’ld be pxxxed off
Forget all this he’s signed a contract garbage we are in the real world
I don’t want him to leave if he can carry on playing well and scoring but I’m a realist It’s just gone on too long.
If the club intend to hang onto him for the remainder of his contract they should come out and say so. His valuation is going down all the time
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But also if he’s still here yet wanting to leave, his best way to stay on the shop window is to play well and score plenty again..
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If he stays without signing a contract he will have a host of clubs wanting to sign him for free next summer regardless of whether he doesn’t score as many goals this season
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Word has it Notts Forest for £1.4m
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Would be disappointed to lose him but can’t complain - top scorers in this division will always be sought out by bigger clubs higher up..
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Dearne valley rover. If you were him and the club had prevented you moving on for bigger wages etc I think you’ld be pxxxed off
Forget all this he’s signed a contract garbage we are in the real world
I don’t want him to leave if he can carry on playing well and scoring but I’m a realist It’s just gone on too long.
If the club intend to hang onto him for the remainder of his contract they should come out and say so. His valuation is going down all the time
Your assumption it’s the club who is stopping him from moving which isn’t true in fact none of your post is
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As has been said if it's going to happen i'd rather they just get on with it and let us look for a replacement. the longer it goes on it's inevitable he'll be a deadline day panic buy and we won't have the time to replace him properly. At least if it goes through fairly soon we can have a proper look at options
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-why-john-marquis-was-absent-from-rovers-friendly-with-hull-city-486883
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As has been said if it's going to happen i'd rather they just get on with it and let us look for a replacement. the longer it goes on it's inevitable he'll be a deadline day panic buy and we won't have the time to replace him properly. At least if it goes through fairly soon we can have a proper look at options
The window for championship clubs to buy him closes in early August. The window for league 1 and below at the start of September.. ok maybe not for the very start of the season but there is plenty of time to replace him..
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That's not so bad then we'll have a month to replace. Can we sign players from divisions who's window has closed? just thinking ideally his replacement will be a younger championship or prem striker
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No, we don't have a month to replace him. Where are the goals meant to come from for the first 5 or 6 games?
If he's going, he needs replacing quickly.
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As has been said if it's going to happen i'd rather they just get on with it and let us look for a replacement. the longer it goes on it's inevitable he'll be a deadline day panic buy and we won't have the time to replace him properly. At least if it goes through fairly soon we can have a proper look at options
They are ,
We are ,
It will....
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No, we don't have a month to replace him. Where are the goals meant to come from for the first 5 or 6 games?
If he's going, he needs replacing quickly.
I wouldn’t replace him...just stick another defender on and hope for 6 nil nils.....
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No, we don't have a month to replace him. Where are the goals meant to come from for the first 5 or 6 games?
If he's going, he needs replacing quickly.
Yes ideally we would replace him quickly, but it’s more important to get the right player for the other 40/41 games in the season, and beyond..
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
Maybe they have players in mind, what makes you think they won’t have researched this.??
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I never suggested they hadn’t so If they have then it wouldn’t take until 5/6 games into the season to sign will it.
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Marquis missing due to personal issues so for now can we come together and get behind the lads and until if he does go John as well
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I never suggested they hadn’t so If they have then it wouldn’t take until 5/6 games into the season to sign will it.
No not directly but there’s a hint of there being “something up” in your post.
The world won’t end if we need to use the window..
Don’t you think the club won’t have looked at potential Marquis replacements since January at least.??
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I'd bring in Jonson Clarke-Harris anyway. Bristol Rovers have signed a couple of forwards including Tyler Smith so they have potentially already replaced him. He'd offer us someone as backup to Marquis who can score and could give us goal threat on the wing.
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
Maybe they have players in mind, what makes you think they won’t have researched this.??
Nothing about this pre season has been well run it appears. There's no reason to believe the club are on the ball about the marquis situation.
Dare say any money from his sale will most likely disappear, just like the cup run money.
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I never suggested they hadn’t so If they have then it wouldn’t take until 5/6 games into the season to sign will it.
No not directly but there’s a hint of there being “something up” in your post.
The world won’t end if we need to use the window..
Don’t you think the club won’t have looked at potential Marquis replacements since January at least.??
Of course I do, but if we don’t replace him for 6 weeks it would make me think otherwise
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I never suggested they hadn’t so If they have then it wouldn’t take until 5/6 games into the season to sign will it.
No not directly but there’s a hint of there being “something up” in your post.
The world won’t end if we need to use the window..
Don’t you think the club won’t have looked at potential Marquis replacements since January at least.??
Of course I do, but if we don’t replace him for 6 weeks it would make me think otherwise
.......and we could give our so called promotion rivals something like a ten point start on us.
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We’re not a one man team though.?
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
Maybe they have players in mind, what makes you think they won’t have researched this.??
Nothing about this pre season has been well run it appears. There's no reason to believe the club are on the ball about the marquis situation.
Dare say any money from his sale will most likely disappear, just like the cup run money.
There’s no reason to believe they’re not, either.. just because YOU don’t know, doesn’t mean things aren’t happening..
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The thing that’s doing my head in and I know others too, is that the same old people on here just keep batting the concerns away.
when the appointment was dragging on it was “ it’s only June let’s see where we are in a few weeks”
Just before Moore was appointed it was “we have signings ready to go let’s see where we are next week”
Then after a week or so it was “ Moore needs to assess his players for a week let’s see where we are in 2 weeks”
Now it’s “the players aren’t available let’s see where we are in September”
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Where has anyone made that last statement.??
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
I have to agree 100% with that statement!
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Everyone has known that marquis probably will be leaving this summer.
If we haven’t got the replacement already sorted then there’s something up
Maybe they have players in mind, what makes you think they won’t have researched this.??
Nothing about this pre season has been well run it appears. There's no reason to believe the club are on the ball about the marquis situation.
Dare say any money from his sale will most likely disappear, just like the cup run money.
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You’re an absolute f**king tool aren’t you? Actually I take that back. Tools are at least useful. What are you vaping?
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Where has anyone made that last statement.??
People have said we’ve got until the window shuts so if we need to wait until then, then so be it
The window closes in September
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GB has stated publicly that players have been identified.
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Same folk in panic. Again.
“How are we going to get a decent manager if we only approach those out of work?”
“This process of recruiting manager is dragging on too long”
“Board trying to do everything on the cheap. Definitely some conspiracy going on here. Something really shadowy. Rearrange the letters in ‘Gavin Baldwin’ and you get ‘Mark Weaver’. Have you ever seen Terry Bramhall / Brammall / Brammhall cast a shadow in midday sun?”
There are some folk on here obsessed with fretting and dreaming up conspiracy theories. Leave them to it if that is what they want to believe. No point engaging.
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Where has anyone made that last statement.??
People have said we’ve got until the window shuts so if we need to wait until then, then so be it
The window closes in September
That’s for getting someone in by September, not “seeing where we are at” then.. there is a difference.
Looks to me, and it’s only my opinion, that you are seeing things that aren’t there..
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Same folk in panic. Again.
“How are we going to get a decent manager if we only approach those out of work?”
“This process of recruiting manager is dragging on too long”
“Board trying to do everything on the cheap. Definitely some conspiracy going on here. Something really shadowy. Rearrange the letters in ‘Gavin Baldwin’ and you get ‘Mark Weaver’. Have you ever seen Terry Bramhall / Brammall / Brammhall cast a shadow in midday sun?”
There are some folk on here obsessed with fretting and dreaming up conspiracy theories. Leave them to it if that is what they want to believe. No point engaging.
You just did engage, ...and you know it feels good to hold the moral high ground...lol
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The thing that’s doing my head in and I know others too, is that the same old people on here just keep batting the concerns away.
when the appointment was dragging on it was “ it’s only June let’s see where we are in a few weeks”
Just before Moore was appointed it was “we have signings ready to go let’s see where we are next week”
Then after a week or so it was “ Moore needs to assess his players for a week let’s see where we are in 2 weeks”
Now it’s “the players aren’t available let’s see where we are in September”
Batting concerns away is just a coping mechanism.......inside I’m 😱
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I wonder if the Hull fans are having similar “debates” about Bowen’s immediate future.?
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I don’t suppose there is anything new here, eh?:
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-and-charlton-to-do-battle-in-race-for-20-goal-striker/
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If, when he goes... thank you
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I wonder if the Hull fans are having similar “debates” about Bowen’s immediate future.?
Probably yeah, but why is that relevant?
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Because it’s a similar situation. Both top players at their respective clubs, both expected to move this summer..
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I have no problem with John Marquis bettering himself money and career wise, if we cannot afford to offer the same terms, and he wants to leave, then it is up to us as a club to get the best value for him we can.
He has given his best for this club, extended his contract once, so must have been settled here, and has played well enough for us to advance his reputation in the game.
We should be looking to part on the best of terms with the player, he deserves that if he leaves, but we must maximise our value to our club with a good fee and sell on clause.
As for the idiots on about money disappearing, the only money that has done that is the owners contributions every year that has kept this club sustainable as the published financial statement every year shows, please engage brain before opening your gob comes to mind as we still have time to spend before the end of the transfer widow, and still have to fund set assets such as training pitches, stadiums, and the current staff.
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I really do hope we keep him. Regardless of what you think of him as a player you just cannot fault his goalscoring record. Prolific.
I fully expect he will leave however, can't see him moving to a league one team though. I would imagine any London team in the championship coming in for him would be perfect.
If he does go then I'll wish him all the best and thanks for the countless goals over the past three seasons. He's Definetly earnt a crack at the next level and he's always been upfront and honest about his intentions of playing in the championship.
I just hope we get a decent fee and it's reinvested wisely into the starting 11.
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I will be hugely disappointed if he goes to any other league one club other than Sunderland.
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Did I read (or dream) JM is on his way to Forest (fee of 1.4 million I believe).
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Did I read (or dream) JM is on his way to Forest (fee of 1.4 million I believe).
The Florest rumours have been bubbling for a while now - how they true they are is another questions.
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I will be hugely disappointed if he goes to any other league one club other than Sunderland.
I'd be disappointed if he goes to any league 1 club. Moving to a Championship side is a step up which none of us would hold against him, a move to another league 1 side is a disappointment.
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Did I read (or dream) JM is on his way to Forest (fee of 1.4 million I believe).
Someone said it on here on Saturday before we knew he was out of the game due to personal reasons. I don't expect there's anything in it, just Forest are a side who have been linked with him a fair bit this summer.
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I really do hope we keep him. Regardless of what you think of him as a player you just cannot fault his goalscoring record. Prolific.
I fully expect he will leave however, can't see him moving to a league one team though. I would imagine any London team in the championship coming in for him would be perfect.
If he does go then I'll wish him all the best and thanks for the countless goals over the past three seasons. He's Definetly earnt a crack at the next level and he's always been upfront and honest about his intentions of playing in the championship.
I just hope we get a decent fee and it's reinvested wisely into the starting 11.
lest we forget he had to quote " get away from London" no going back !
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Heard everything is in place for Tyler Walker to sign for Coventry once Forest sign a striker too.
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Well, whatever happens (if he is to move to Championship) he has to move in next few days.
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Nobody would begrudge him a move to the Championship but it’s what we do to replace him.
I want him to stay as we have more than just his goals to replace. At the same time, he deserves a crack at the Championship.
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Did I read (or dream) JM is on his way to Forest (fee of 1.4 million I believe).
Someone said it on here on Saturday before we knew he was out of the game due to personal reasons. I don't expect there's anything in it, just Forest are a side who have been linked with him a fair bit this summer.
I put the post up, just repeating what I was told by 3 different people, 1 of whom I trust
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Wasn't saying you were making it up RavenRover, apologies if it comes across that way. Just clarifying where that info had been read, and considering the timing (with Marquis missing the Hull game for personal reasons) just had to put my sceptical hat on. It wouldn't surprise me if he did go to Forest to be honest.
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He wants a move down south apparently as he's just had a new baby so Portsmouth would be a totally understandable move.
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He wants a move down south apparently as he's just had a new baby so Portsmouth would be a totally understandable move.
As would Charlton........
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Personally, I would prefer Marquis to go to Charlton as I don't want him to join one of our close competitors. The question is who do we get in that is going to be as good and is that easily done? Selling John could just scupper our promotion prospects. I would like to see him stay and we get another striker as good ourselves for a real challenge.
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I will be hugely disappointed if he goes to any other league one club other than Sunderland.
I'd be disappointed if he goes to any league 1 club. Moving to a Championship side is a step up which none of us would hold against him, a move to another league 1 side is a disappointment.
I agree but think Sunderland are the exception due to their size and potential.
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He wants a move down south apparently as he's just had a new baby so Portsmouth would be a totally understandable move.
Heard that was the reason he was absent on Saturday
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Reading between the lines I think we all know he was having an interview somewhere.
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Well i hope the £1m fed being reported isn’t true.
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Do we know anyone in the traffic department who can tell us which way his car went on Saturday as seen on the ANPR system? Joking of course.... maybe.
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Reading between the lines I think we all know he was having an interview somewhere.
Why has everything got to be a conspiracy?
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Reading between the lines I think we all know he was having an interview somewhere.
Reading between the lines, we know f**k all.
Remember Billy Sharp.?
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Reading between the lines I think we all know he was having an interview somewhere.
Reading between the lines, we know f**k all.
Remember Billy Sharp.?
Exactly!
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He’s going for talks with Portsmouth today
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He’s going for talks with Portsmouth today
Where's that come from?
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He’s going for talks with Portsmouth today
are you his agent
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Reading between the lines I think we all know he was having an interview somewhere.
do players have interviews?
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He’s going for talks with Portsmouth today
Where's that come from?
Spoke to someone I know last night that speaks to him regularly. He’s gone there for talks today. He prefers Portsmouth over Charlton as his mrs family all live nearby in Brighton and Bournemouth... it will happen next day or 2.
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Him having a strong preference of clubs is interesting. Gives Portsmouth a significant bargaining chip re the price.
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I’ll be sickened if he goes to f**king Pompey. I don’t begrudge him a championship team move but to go to a rival is a real kicker.
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I’ll be sickened if he goes to f**king Pompey. I don’t begrudge him a championship team move but to go to a rival is a real kicker.
To call Portsmouth a rival would, in the current circumstances, be very optimistic.
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
I’m guessing that’s the case
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I hope we stood firm and aren't accepting peanuts.
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I’ll be sickened if he goes to f**king Pompey. I don’t begrudge him a championship team move but to go to a rival is a real kicker.
To call Portsmouth a rival would, in the current circumstances, be very optimistic.
Well they are in L1.
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
Are you guessing about him talking to Portsmouth?
I’m guessing that’s the case
I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
I’m guessing that’s the case
Are you guessing he's talking to Portsmouth?
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
Are you guessing about him talking to Portsmouth?
I’m guessing that’s the case
I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
I’m guessing that’s the case
Are you guessing he's talking to Portsmouth?
No I know that’s a fact
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He’s going for talks with Portsmouth today
Where's that come from?
Spoke to someone I know last night that speaks to him regularly. He’s gone there for talks today. He prefers Portsmouth over Charlton as his mrs family all live nearby in Brighton and Bournemouth... it will happen next day or 2.
A few things....... You apparently found this out last night, but waited until 1:24 the next day before you decided to tell the world.....why?
Does JM regularly talk to this person about his future plans? - especially as this fella is prone to telling you and you're likely to spill the beans on a football forum.
Thirdly, you say his wife's family live nearby, but I wouldn't call 50 miles particularly 'nearby' - especially when you consider that Charlton is only about a further hour away - and JM could still play (and be paid for) the Championship football that he yearns for.....
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
Are you guessing about him talking to Portsmouth?
I’m guessing that’s the case
I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
I’m guessing that’s the case
Are you guessing he's talking to Portsmouth?
No I know that’s a fact
OK fair enough, but did you ask your source whether Portsmouth had agreed a fee with us? I think this would have been my first question.
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I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
Are you guessing about him talking to Portsmouth?
I’m guessing that’s the case
I would have thought any club before they could speak to JM officially would have had to have our consent first having met our valuation?
I’m guessing that’s the case
Are you guessing he's talking to Portsmouth?
No I know that’s a fact
OK fair enough, but did you ask your source whether Portsmouth had agreed a fee with us? I think this would have been my first question.
No all he told me was it’s looking like he’s off to Portsmouth and will be talking to them today. He said Charlton were also interesting but at this moment he favoured Portsmouth due to the location of his mrs family... he’s told me a few things this summer which have turned out to be true so I have no reason to doubt him now.
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Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.
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I’d be disappointed if JM signed for Pompey, as I think some on here would be also. Thought he wanted Championship football? In which case Charlton would be his best bet, Pompey aren’t a guarantee to go up this season, whereas Charlton are already there.
COYR
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Plus Portsmouth have four other strikers. Not guaranteed a starting place.
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Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.
He might not be meeting club representatives at the ground.
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Up to him where he goes. Would be marginally happier if he is not playing in same league as ex-players always score against you, but so long as they are offering the asking price then who cares!
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Please not f**king Portsmouth. One of these clubs I dislike for no real reason, especially as the media f**king fawns over them.
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If he goes will it be undisclosed or about 500k, no way Pompey will pay more than that
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Maybe now things are moving in regards to him talking to Pompey, championship clubs like forest and qpr may decide to make their move.
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The Daily Mail were reporting last night that Pompey and Charlton both wanted him, so it's hardly something plucked from thin air. As a result, I'm not sure we can take any "ITK" posts stating this as potential fact. No offence intended to Retdon1, he may be speaking complete truth but we'll never know.
Just have to trust that the club will only sell him for his market value (or above) and have spent ample time in recent months identifying potential replacements.
As for the suggestion that he'd only go for 500k...don't be ridiculous. Far too low for a player of his pedigree, age and calibre.
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If he goes will it be undisclosed or about 500k, no way Pompey will pay more than that
Like to prove that assertion.?
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The Daily Mail were reporting last night that Pompey and Charlton both wanted him, so it's hardly something plucked from thin air. As a result, I'm not sure we can take any "ITK" posts stating this as potential fact. No offence intended to Retdon1, he may be speaking complete truth but we'll never know.
Just have to trust that the club will only sell him for his market value (or above) and have spent ample time in recent months identifying potential replacements.
As for the suggestion that he'd only go for 500k...don't be ridiculous. Far too low for a player of his pedigree, age and calibre.
Non taken, I’m only writing what I’ve been told by someone Idd class as reliable... Idd hope the fee is around £1.5 million. He’s worth more but unfortunately for us the length of his contract means we don’t get big money.
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1.5 million would be terrible business by rovers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
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When you post a rumour that big, you look a bit daft if it doesn't come off.
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1.5 million would be terrible business by rovers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
Why would that be terrible business.?
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Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.
He might not be meeting club representatives at the ground.
I know the last bit was tongue in cheek although I am in Gosport
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1.5 million would be terrible business by rovers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
He’s got 10 months left on his contract. We won’t get big money for him
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We'll get the club's asking price. That's been their position all the way through since January.
It will be undisclosed anyway, triggering years of debate whether it was 200k or 4 million plus add ons.
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Yet some in the Facebook group are saying £1.5m is too much.
Whatever it is, there will be moaners, even if it's undisclosed, there will be those claiming they know and will be having a dig at the club.
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I think it's the managers phone in on RS tonight at 6pm.
No doubt DM will be asked about Marquis.
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I'd love to know how much just to know if we're passed the era of under valuing all of our players.
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Thing with the fee is often its buying potential. With marquis it isn't, he is 27 so he is unlikely to be a big fee in future, he may well be at his peak, that will put suitors off. For a guy who's scored plenty goals, the bids havent been flying in....
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Any club buying JM now would be paying for what he can deliver over the next couple of seasons, rather than resale value..
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1.5 million would be terrible business by rovers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
but the club have only valued him at 1m haven't they
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Have they, where did they say that?
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Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.
He might not be meeting club representatives at the ground.
I know the last bit was tongue in cheek although I am in Gosport
My post was tongue in cheek too DVR. We really do need that Imogee adding to the options,
I can imagine you peeping round corners all day in Portsmouth.
It would be a bit like the Monty Python World Championship Hide and Seek Final.
(If you remember that).
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Any club buying JM now would be paying for what he can deliver over the next couple of seasons, rather than resale value..
There can’t be a resale value as by the time any club bought later him he’d be in a similar situation as of now but 2 or 3 older and near the end of his career, that’s why we need a good fee now and fore go any sell on fee to make it worth getting a better fee .
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That’s not the point I was making..
I meant the value to a buying club relates to what he can deliver in the time he is playing for them..
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If the club have only valued him at £1,000,000 why didn’t we sell last year at £2,000,000
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If the club have only valued him at £1,000,000 why didn’t we sell last year at £2,000,000
Almost as if he's... making shit up to suit an agenda?
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Won’t have dropped a million, but the price will obviously be less now
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Nobody anywhere has confirmed the value at which we are intending to sell Marquis for, if at all.
He is in the prime of his career, coming off a very successful season. He is worth a bare minimum £1.5m in my opinion, even with a year left on his contract. Anywhere between that and £2m and I think we'll have done good business.
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Well Portsmouth fans are usually on the ball when it comes to knowing who they are signing and they haven’t heard a thing down here, I’m in Gosport so I might pop down the road to see if JM is knocking about.
He might not be meeting club representatives at the ground.
I know the last bit was tongue in cheek although I am in Gosport
My post was tongue in cheek too DVR. We really do need that Imogee adding to the options,
I can imagine you peeping round corners all day in Portsmouth.
It would be a bit like the Monty Python World Championship Hide and Seek Final.
(If you remember that).
I certainly do, I’m off to get the ferry across right now
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Why is JM being in the last year of his contract suddenly making his value drop? The club have stated no player is for sale but each one has a value. JM’s is the same as it was in January if someone wants him they have to pay that amount as the club are more than happy for him to stay given as they see him as an integral part of a promotion push.
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Of course it makes his value drop.
In January he was 18 months from being available on a free transfer and now he’s only around 10 months away.
It’s just a fact that the closer a player gets to the end of his contract that his price will go down
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Of course it makes his value drop.
In January he was 18 months from being available on a free transfer and now he’s only around 10 months away.
It’s just a fact that the closer a player gets to the end of his contract that his price will go down
No dickos it doesn’t if you don’t want to sell, I feel most are missing that point. The club wants promotion they see John as being able to deliver that, if he does we will be in the Championship and they feel he would then sign a new contract if we don’t he leaves for free it’s a risk they are willing to take unless someone meets their valuation.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
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It was only a few weeks ago that the Posh chairman said that he would expect him to go for around £2M.
Can’t find the link but fairly sure he posted it on twitter as a response to a question in La Manga when he had his picture done with JM.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
Really?
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football
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DM says we have still not had any concrete bids for JM.
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football
It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
I think that view is a little naive to be honest DVR. I know that if we don't want to sell him we won't feel forced into it but it'd be bad business to keep him now then lose him for a free next summer, or pennies in January. Clubs won't pay over the odds for him at any rate so it is all dependent on a suitable bid being tabled by one of these clubs that allegedly wants to sign him.
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Darren Moore has confirmed that there have been no concrete offers for Marquis. So it could only be assumed that any talks he’s reported to have held with other clubs (and I see no reason to believe that there have been any, yet) would have been conducted without the consent of the club.
I still think he will leave, but I think this thread is full of pure speculation that’s lacking any foundation.
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
I think that view is a little naive to be honest DVR. I know that if we don't want to sell home we won't feel forced into it but it'd be bad business to keep him now then lose him for a free next summer, or pennies in January. Clubs won't pay over the odds for him at any rate so it is all dependent on a suitable bid being tabled by one of these clubs that allegedly wants to sign him.
I wondered when the word naive would pop up. Normally I would agree with you but in this instance I’m aware of the clubs stance and it hasn’t changed since January
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football
It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing
A player still has a value whether a club wants to sell or not.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
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The length of time left on a player's contract directly correlates to his transfer value. That is just a fact in football, whether the selling club is Doncaster Rovers or Manchester United.
The Clubs valuation of John hasn’t changed since January so if he goes the club that buys him will have met that valuation so no his contract length at present has no bearing whatsoever
Nobody knows what his valuation was then or what it is now, and I completely agree with roversalias the length left on a contract directly correlates to a players value.
It’s a fact of football
It’s only a fact if you want to sell it’s a point you keep missing
A player still has a value whether a club wants to sell or not.
I haven’t stated anything different
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
In all honesty if he stays o can’t see him not signing a new contract..
It’d just my opinion, but I would happily have a season like last, even if it means not getting money for him.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
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I didn’t say that..
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The official line from the club is that Marquis’ valuation stands at the amount that Darren Moore believes would provide him with an opportunity to improve the team and squad overall. In my view, that sum is unlikely to be the zero it would be next summer.
Basic economics suggest a club would be unlikely to offer the same amount that they offered in January given that they know the date is drawing nearer that they could hold out and get him for nothing. On that basis I believe his prospective valuation will have fallen as a direct consequence of the ambition we displayed by rejecting all offers in January.
Fair play to the club, they rolled the dice and it nearly paid off. If we were to sell him for a little less now then we shouldn’t have any complaints. We should still be in a position to command a decent sum to reinvest, just not quite what it would’ve been in January.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
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I didn’t say that..
Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
In all honesty if he stays o can’t see him not signing a new contract..
It’d just my opinion, but I would happily have a season like last, even if it means not getting money for him.
I agree with the first bit, I don’t think he will stay unless we can get him to sign a new contract.
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I didn’t say that..
I know, I was replying to dearne valley
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But also a prospective buying club would want him now, rather than waiting a year to get him for nowt.?
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I didn’t say that..
I know, I was replying to dearne valley
Ok no worries..
I think it is a fair question though, or what’s better for DRFC - sell him now or have his services for another season.?
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
When we signed him though we weren’t trying to replace a guaranteed 20 goals. We would be next summer
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But also a prospective buying club would want him now, rather than waiting a year to get him for nowt.?
If he’s available for nowt there would be a host of clubs fighting to sign him and his wage demands would increase dramatically.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I didn’t say that either. The club has a figure they feel he is worth it’s the same figure as the one in January I’m really not sure which bit of that you are funding difficulty with
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But also a prospective buying club would want him now, rather than waiting a year to get him for nowt.?
If he’s available for nowt there would be a host of clubs fighting to sign him and his wage demands would increase dramatically.
How do you know they haven’t already?
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If no clubs make a bid for him now, by signing a new improved contract he could be earning more money next season.
A year is a long time in the life of a footballer so why not enjoy the extra money while he is here.
A win win really.
He gets paid more and if he had yet another good season then clubs would still be interested in him a year on.
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But also a prospective buying club would want him now, rather than waiting a year to get him for nowt.?
If he’s available for nowt there would be a host of clubs fighting to sign him and his wage demands would increase dramatically.
How do you know they haven’t already?
Because that’s what the club are telling us?
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I didn’t say that either. The club has a figure they feel he is worth it’s the same figure as the one in January I’m really not sure which bit of that you are funding difficulty with
We rejected 2 million for him in January,
There’s no way someone would pay 2 million for him now with 10 months left on his contract.
As others have also stated his value automatically goes down as each week passes by.
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Surely January is when clubs who are desperate to avoid relegation or are scared of missing out on promotion make bids greater than they would have done at the start of the season because they need someone right then?
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Johns goals could be the difference of a team staying in the championship and being relegated which is worth 6 million so asking for 2 million it not out of range.
If we keep him and he runs out his contract but his goals get us into the championship then he’s basically made the club 6 million.
The 2nd choice is an outside chance but is one that has potential
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
When we signed him though we weren’t trying to replace a guaranteed 20 goals. We would be next summer
It's a irrelevant if we are replacing a 20 goal a season player or a 100 goal a season player. What's to say that the replacement wouldn't score 30 goals a season. John wasn't exactly prolific when he signed for us was he.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
When we signed him though we weren’t trying to replace a guaranteed 20 goals. We would be next summer
It's a irrelevant if we are replacing a 20 goal a season player or a 100 goal a season player. What's to say that the replacement wouldn't score 30 goals a season. John wasn't exactly prolific when he signed for us was he.
Marquis is the exception to the rule though, 20+ goal strikers on free transfers are very rare.
I totally agree with Hound, if he doesn't find a suitable move now then he should sign a new deal, it pays him more money a week and we can get a top value fee for him if he performs well and then goes in January or next summer instead. Win-win for everyone.
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Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
Brammall is an excellent businessman, there is no way he would let his most valued asset leave the club for free.
From a business point of view, that will depend on what value is placed on Marquis playing for us this season.
Although nothing is guaranteed in football, and there’s no guarantee the money we received from selling him we couldn’t re invest into someone who would score the same goals.
Letting his contract expire would be poor business whichever way you look at it
If we don’t sell and if he doesn’t sign a new contract with us, but we then get promoted or in the play offs with JM scoring loads, isn’t that as good as getting cash for him now.?
No, because how would we replace him with a similar player of his calibre if we allow him to leave on a free and we’re still in league one?
I'm sure we didn't pay much,if any for him when we first signed him. Surely we could do similar with another player should he leave on a free at the end of his contract.
When we signed him though we weren’t trying to replace a guaranteed 20 goals. We would be next summer
It's a irrelevant if we are replacing a 20 goal a season player or a 100 goal a season player. What's to say that the replacement wouldn't score 30 goals a season. John wasn't exactly prolific when he signed for us was he.
Marquis is the exception to the rule though, 20+ goal strikers on free transfers are very rare.
I totally agree with Hound, if he doesn't find a suitable move now then he should sign a new deal, it pays him more money a week and we can get a top value fee for him if he performs well and then goes in January or next summer instead. Win-win for everyone.
That's my point though, John wasn't a 20 goal a season player when we signed him and look how he turned out!!
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Like he said though, that doesn’t happen very often and if we can 1.5 million for him we’re giving ourselves a much better chance of signing the type of striker we need
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I didn’t say that either. The club has a figure they feel he is worth it’s the same figure as the one in January I’m really not sure which bit of that you are funding difficulty with
We rejected 2 million for him in January,
There’s no way someone would pay 2 million for him now with 10 months left on his contract.
As others have also stated his value automatically goes down as each week passes by.
Was it £2m? It’s an easy one if the clubs value isn’t met he won’t be leaving, if he leaves then the value will have been met.
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But also a prospective buying club would want him now, rather than waiting a year to get him for nowt.?
If he’s available for nowt there would be a host of clubs fighting to sign him and his wage demands would increase dramatically.
How do you know they haven’t already?
Because that’s what the club are telling us?
I was referring to what John thinks he’s worth because his wage demands to any club wanting him will be a factor and I’m sure they will be a lot higher than what we are paying him now.
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They will, but it’s common knowledge that a player joining a club on free gets greater wages because the club he is going to haven’t paid a transfer fee.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I didn’t say that either. The club has a figure they feel he is worth it’s the same figure as the one in January I’m really not sure which bit of that you are funding difficulty with
We rejected 2 million for him in January,
There’s no way someone would pay 2 million for him now with 10 months left on his contract.
As others have also stated his value automatically goes down as each week passes by.
Was it £2m? It’s an easy one if the clubs value isn’t met he won’t be leaving, if he leaves then the value will have been met.
That’s what we were told at the time so I can only assume it was 2 million yes
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At tonights managers special Stendel said if he could take one player from another south yorkshire club it would be Marquis..
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If he goes will it be undisclosed or about 500k, no way Pompey will pay more than that
Dick.
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At tonights managers special Stendel said if he could take one player from another south yorkshire club it would be Marquis..
But he’s too old he added on after, too old at 27 wow.
Darren replied with I’ll take Sharp then
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I have just had a message from a Forest fan saying that DRFC have a £1.5m bid accepted from NFFC for John.
To be confirmed in the next couple of days.
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Not true i don't think. Forest are trying to sign a striker from Wolves.
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Could be wrong I suppose but my pal has good connections at Forest.
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Bit of a waste of petrol the trip to Portsmouth then!
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Bit of a waste of petrol the trip to Portsmouth then!
Perhaps.
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Could be wrong I suppose but my pal has good connections at Forest.
5G internet AND Sky? ;)
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I'm not sure Marquis would settle in Nottinghamshire. It's a place not known for its strikers.
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Could be wrong I suppose but my pal has good connections at Forest.
5G internet AND Sky? ;)
Lol, perhaps to that as well.
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Just been thinking about this.
Copps tried them and we got him back in six months.
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Can’t begrudge the bloke a shot at the championship can we. It’s a short career and no doubt he wants to do the best that he can for his family financially. Did we actually pay a fee for him? It’s good business all round. We get 1,5 million quid and John doubles his wage with a signing on fee on top. Also the money men running our club will only have to find half a million quid this year towards the annual 2 million shortfall.
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Thing is, even if club accepted the bid, doesn't mean he'll end up there.
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At tonights managers special Stendel said if he could take one player from another south yorkshire club it would be Marquis..
But he’s too old he added on after, too old at 27 wow.
Darren replied with I’ll take Sharp then
They had a team last season where no player was over 26, so can understand that comment.
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Can’t begrudge the bloke a shot at the championship can we. It’s a short career and no doubt he wants to do the best that he can for his family financially. Did we actually pay a fee for him? It’s good business all round. We get 1,5 million quid and John doubles his wage with a signing on fee on top. Also the money men running our club will only have to find half a million quid this year towards the annual 2 million shortfall.
Nice thinly veiled dig there, almost didn't notice that you were implying the club won't reinvest any transfer fees received.
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I thought someone would notice 😂. Not much gets missed on here. It does go to show though that there’s much more to being a manager than getting results. Was it fergie who signed him? That blokes made a lot of money for the clubs he’s managed through his scouting system
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I have just had a message from a Forest fan saying that DRFC have a £1.5m bid accepted from NFFC for John.
To be confirmed in the next couple of days.
that is true I.5m within the next 48 hours, so we need a new striker
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And we will get one
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If true, good luck.to John. Given his all for husband has to think about himself and his family
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https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/07/wolves-striker-mir-set-to-move-to-forest/
Seriously doubt it's forest
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Players come and go, John is no different, and another player will appear in time maybe but we will get there
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Exactly. Players come and go a part from copps. I am grateful for what Marquis has done. Amazing for us. When he goes, all the best John and thank you
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Exactly. Players come and go a part from copps. I am grateful for what Marquis has done. Amazing for us. When he goes, all the best John and thank you
He’s not going !!!
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https://www.wolvesbite.com/2019/07/wolves-striker-mir-set-to-move-to-forest/
Seriously doubt it's forest
Hey, you could be right.
I suppose that sooner or later one of these stories will turn out to be correct.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But if we don't want to sell, it's irrelevant what other clubs think they're willing to pay. I think that's the counter point being made.
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Like all commodities which don’t have a fixed price, the value will be dependent upon what is agreed between the buyer and the seller..
Marquis could have more value for Portsmouth than for Charlton.. therefore they could pay more up front..
Regardless, there will be a limit on what the club will agree to.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
Go and have a word with the people who make the decisions at DRFC and tell them that because they definitely don’t see it they way you do.
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Why would I do that? It’s a common fact of football as many have attempted to point out to you not just me, although you only seem to want to reply to me.
If you know the price we turned down from Sunderland, if you know what we would accept why don’t you just say rather than constantly dropping hints you know more than everyone else but won’t say what it is you know.
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According to ‘NottinghamForestCommunity’ on Twitter, Forest have had a bid of £1.5M accepted and deal will be done in next 48hrs.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
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They haven't got that from here, have they?
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That article was posted yesterday but apparently isn’t a very reliable source
I’d much rather believe Moore
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Why would I do that? It’s a common fact of football as many have attempted to point out to you not just me, although you only seem to want to reply to me.
If you know the price we turned down from Sunderland, if you know what we would accept why don’t you just say rather than constantly dropping hints you know more than everyone else but won’t say what it is you know.
Probably because you are the only one who isn’t listening. I fully understand what you are saying and would normally agree but in this situation it’s different. I’m saying no more
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
Go and have a word with the people who make the decisions at DRFC and tell them that because they definitely don’t see it they way you do.
What makes you think that DVR?
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
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You could even argue that his value may go up so close to the start of the season...
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John Marquis is our player and has it stands will start on Saturday so let’s celebrate the fact that one of the best strikers in our history will be pulling on the hoops on again
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
As many have mentioned, the longer a players contract the more expensive he is to buy. That’s not just a point of view it’s a fact of football
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
The price is, what the board say it is; irrespective of the time of year - and irrespective of fans viewpoints. If a club wants him then they can either pay the price now or wait to the end of his contract in the hope that they may get him for free, at which point they risk competing with other clubs for his services. It all depends on how much a club wants a particular player and how much risk they are prepared to take in getting him.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
As many have mentioned, the longer a players contract the more expensively he is to buy. That’s not just a point of view it’s a fact of football
You'll have to show me where this 'fact' is as it's completely new on me. You're not confusing this with the amortisation costs are you?
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John Marquis is our player and has it stands will start on Saturday so let’s celebrate the fact that one of the best strikers in our history will be pulling on the hoops on again
Well said DVR some on here think league 1 strikers who can score 25 goals a season grow on trees.
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If Forest (or anyone) offered £1.5m then I would be snatching their hands off - his price is only going to go downwards - and if he is forced to stay and see out his contract then we won't have the same player...
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If Forest (or anyone) offered £1.5m then I would be snatching their hands off - his price is only going to go downwards - and if he is forced to stay and see out his contract then we won't have the same player...
I must have missed the statement about the club forcing him to stay! Can somebody post a link?
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If John wants to leave so badly as everyone is saying then he should put in a transfer request as for now he is our player.
now on Saturday a few things could happen
1. He scores a hat trick value goes up championship clubs get itchy feet and bid for him 2 million as they only have until Thursday before there window shuts
2. He has a poor game as we know he can do (FYI all players do) scouts watching him go not impressed leave it till January unless someone comes in for him then match that bid maybe.
3. Gets injured out for 6 months ala billy sharp and we get some young striker from premier league side who either flys or flops and we spend all season kicking off about that Steve Evans team bunch of bullies or saying we should have sold him for some made up number to some made up team.
For me if he plays on Saturday we need to sign his name loud and proud and show him what he means to us.
20 goal season strikers at any level are rare as rocking horse shit, and we have one so why are people so willing to get rid of him if he played for any other league one team we would be begging the board to go get him.
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If Forest (or anyone) offered £1.5m then I would be snatching their hands off - his price is only going to go downwards - and if he is forced to stay and see out his contract then we won't have the same player...
I must have missed the statement about the club forcing him to stay! Can somebody post a link?
It's been said by several within the club that he wants to play at a higher level - I was therefore surmising that if we turn away Championship clubs wanting his services - and thereby force him to stay and see out his contract - he may not be quite the same player.
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20 goal season strikers at any level are rare as rocking horse shit, and we have one so why are people so willing to get rid of him if he played for any other league one team we would be begging the board to go get him.
See my answer above. I would add that 1.5 million is a hell of a lot of money to us and we wouldn't want the player to go for free in 10 months... However, I would add, if he were to sign a contract extension I would be more than glad to see him stay...
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
As many have mentioned, the longer a players contract the more expensively he is to buy. That’s not just a point of view it’s a fact of football
You'll have to show me where this 'fact' is as it's completely new on me. You're not confusing this with the amortisation costs are you?
Are you saying you aren’t aware that in football as a players contract gets closer to expiring then that players value reduces alongside this?
I felt naiths explanation summed it up perfectly
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If he’s here Saturday, give him some big love. He’s been fantastic for us. No question.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
As many have mentioned, the longer a players contract the more expensively he is to buy. That’s not just a point of view it’s a fact of football
You'll have to show me where this 'fact' is as it's completely new on me. You're not confusing this with the amortisation costs are you?
Are you saying you aren’t aware that in football as a players contract gets closer to expiring then that players value reduces alongside this?
I felt naiths explanation summed it up perfectly
But naith's explanation isn't correct. The value of a player isn't based on the length of his contract with his current club, his value depends on what the selling club and the buying club agree is the correct price. Of course if there's little of his contract left then that does strengthen the buying clubs position, but so do many other factors.
As I said before, the decline in a players value is not a straight line. However, his value on the books of the selling club is, but that's a tax issue and not a valuation.
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It's all about supply and demand we have the supply of a 20 goal striker and other clubs fans demand a 20 goal season striker
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
You will pay £2m with 9 months left on his contract if you want him badly enough.
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If you look around at the transfers though it never happens.
Players don’t get sold for their true value when their contract only has 6, 9 months left on it
I think you can even start negotiating signing a player on a free when he has 6 months left
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
You will pay £2m with 9 months left on his contract if you want him badly enough.
This is the problem and why we still have JM. No club want him badly enough. They either want him because they think they can get him on the cheap or he is a secondary target. E.g. Sunderland would have signed but they obviously seen more in Mcnulty.
I feel sorry for John in a way because he deserves a chance to prove himslef in the Championship but isn't desireable for whatever reason.
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
Yes you would. It depends on other factors, which is the point I've made, not just the length of his contract. Today JM has a value, which is exactly the same value as in January, that hasn't declined. But it will do if we get to the January window and nothings been changed.
And Barnsley can only sell players if there's a buyer for them. If not then it doesn't matter one jot.
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The length left is a factor, but not the only factor. Far many more things involved. I suspect he will leave but for the right fee.
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
You will pay £2m with 9 months left on his contract if you want him badly enough.
This is the problem and why we still have JM. No club want him badly enough. They either want him because they think they can get him on the cheap or he is a secondary target. E.g. Sunderland would have signed but they obviously seen more in Mcnulty.
I feel sorry for John in a way because he deserves a chance to prove himslef in the Championship but isn't desireable for whatever reason.
He will get that chance in the Championship with us next season if he stays.
If he goes to a Championship club now it would more than likely be one fighting relegation and he could well be playing League 1 football again next season.
My advice JM is stay with us as i think DM is going to build something very special at DRFC
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
You will pay £2m with 9 months left on his contract if you want him badly enough.
This is the problem and why we still have JM. No club want him badly enough. They either want him because they think they can get him on the cheap or he is a secondary target. E.g. Sunderland would have signed but they obviously seen more in Mcnulty.
I feel sorry for John in a way because he deserves a chance to prove himslef in the Championship but isn't desireable for whatever reason.
It's Rovers I feel sorry for. If he'd have scored that bloody penalty at Charlton he might have been in the Championship - With us!
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As great as that would be I can understand marquis point of view.
He’s 27 now and deserves a crack at the next level, it was a great signing for us getting him on a free. So he’ll feel he doesn’t owe us much now and nothing is guaranteed in football and he would most likely be stuck in league one again next season
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We may get him to sign a contract extension but with a clause of say 2.5 million in Jan transfer window if he stays all season and we go up he may want to stay with a new year left on his contract we then upgrade his contract I.e 3 year twice as much money bonus for staying up etc etc
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As great as that would be I can understand marquis point of view.
He’s 27 now and deserves a crack at the next level, it was a great signing for us getting him on a free. So he’ll feel he doesn’t owe us much now and nothing is guaranteed in football and he would most likely be stuck in league one again next season
Why do you think we will not get promoted? So many people with a negative mind set imo.
Yes i know some would say it it’s being realistic but unless you believe you are going to get promoted then in all likelihood it won’t happen.
I am pretty sure, no not pretty sure, certain that DM will be drilling that promotion target down the throats of all the players. Belief Belief Belief.
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
Yes you would. It depends on other factors, which is the point I've made, not just the length of his contract. Today JM has a value, which is exactly the same value as in January, that hasn't declined. But it will do if we get to the January window and nothings been changed.
And Barnsley can only sell players if there's a buyer for them. If not then it doesn't matter one jot.
SM, long shot here, but are you able to tell us what his valued to the club was back in January.
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Think the club would have accepted the 2 million that Sunderland bid but as they left it so late we wouldn't have time to replace him
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As great as that would be I can understand marquis point of view.
He’s 27 now and deserves a crack at the next level, it was a great signing for us getting him on a free. So he’ll feel he doesn’t owe us much now and nothing is guaranteed in football and he would most likely be stuck in league one again next season
Why do you think we will not get promoted? So many people with a negative mind set imo.
Yes i know some would say it it’s being realistic but unless you believe you are going to get promoted then in all likelihood it won’t happen.
I am pretty sure, no not pretty sure, certain that DM will be drilling that promotion target down the throats of all the players. Belief Belief Belief.
I didn’t say I didn’t think we would, our expectations are the top 6 which as we know then becomes a lottery.
If someone guarantees him championship football now and a hefty wage rise then I can fully understand him wanting to accept it.
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
Yes you would. It depends on other factors, which is the point I've made, not just the length of his contract. Today JM has a value, which is exactly the same value as in January, that hasn't declined. But it will do if we get to the January window and nothings been changed.
And Barnsley can only sell players if there's a buyer for them. If not then it doesn't matter one jot.
SM, long shot here, but are you able to tell us what his valued to the club was back in January.
Sorry mate, can't do. But the reported £2m from Sunderland wasn't accurate.
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So it’s a fact then that this value goes down the closer you get to the end of said players contract
I believe so, because it is actually the current contract that a new club is buying the player out of. The longer the contract the more you a depriving the current club of that player for.
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make,
It’s nonsensical to suggest the price is the same now as it was 8 months ago.
But why would it have changed? Player depreciation isn't a straight declining line. There are certain times when it will dip, that's for sure, but I fail to see how he's worth so much less at this point than he was in January.
As many have mentioned, the longer a players contract the more expensively he is to buy. That’s not just a point of view it’s a fact of football
You'll have to show me where this 'fact' is as it's completely new on me. You're not confusing this with the amortisation costs are you?
Are you saying you aren’t aware that in football as a players contract gets closer to expiring then that players value reduces alongside this?
I felt naiths explanation summed it up perfectly
But naith's explanation isn't correct. The value of a player isn't based on the length of his contract with his current club, his value depends on what the selling club and the buying club agree is the correct price. Of course if there's little of his contract left then that does strengthen the buying clubs position, but so do many other factors.
As I said before, the decline in a players value is not a straight line. However, his value on the books of the selling club is, but that's a tax issue and not a valuation.
The assumptions around what I have said isn't correct, that's right.
I do agree it's not a straight line valuation process though
However, another point is that I've seen it said that an offer of 2 million didn't reach the board's valuation in January (call that point 1), and now that offer still wouldn't meet the board's valuation (point 2). That doesn't mean that the board's valuation at both point one and two are the same, they both appear to be over 2 million...(If what has been said is correct)
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I understand
But from a buyers point of view you can offer 2 million for a player who has 18 months on his contract but then there’s no way you would offer the same when there’s only 9 months left because you can get him on a free In those 9 months.
And the selling club also knows this, so not many clubs would allow there most valuable player to leave for free when they could get 2 million for him 12-18 months earlier.
We had a Barnsley fan on here the other week saying that they offer players new contracts when they have 18 months left and if they don’t sign then they sell them so they can’t lose them for free
Yes you would. It depends on other factors, which is the point I've made, not just the length of his contract. Today JM has a value, which is exactly the same value as in January, that hasn't declined. But it will do if we get to the January window and nothings been changed.
And Barnsley can only sell players if there's a buyer for them. If not then it doesn't matter one jot.
SM, long shot here, but are you able to tell us what his valued to the club was back in January.
Sorry mate, can't do. But the reported £2m from Sunderland wasn't accurate.
Cheers.
I didnt think you would be able to let the cat out of the bag 💼.............🐈
Somehow I’d doubted that the £2m was factual though.
It did seem a bit high.
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I feel sorry for John in a way because he deserves a chance to prove himslef in the Championship but isn't desireable for whatever reason.
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He had a great chance. All he needed to do was score a penalty for a crazy chance for the Championship with us. He also has a chance again if he stays and plays even better with us.
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He wasn’t the only one to miss..
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He wasn’t the only one to miss..
Ironically, the other one that missed is already at a Championship club.
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My issue as it always has been is he’s looking like leaving last minute and leaving us fxxxed
Not his fault but it will leave us scraping the barrel for whoever is cheap and available
Unless I’m doing DM a major disservice and he’s already got fingers in pies
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Phil, the Board said previously, they wouldn’t let that happen!
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There another 3 weeks or so after the championship buying window closes, until the league 1 (and below) one does..
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The reason players go cheaper when they near the end of their contract is when the selling club is wanting to sell. In the case of JM and DRFC, the club is not at all desperate to sell so the value doesn't go down.
If a club wants him but thinks they can wait till the end of the season, then they aren't really wanting him that much. Their needs will change over that time. Also, other clubs may come into the picture etc so they'd likely miss out.
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I feel sorry for John in a way because he deserves a chance to prove himslef in the Championship but isn't desireable for whatever reason.
He had a great chance. All he needed to do was score a penalty for a crazy chance for the Championship with us. He also has a chance again if he stays and plays even better with us.
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Hate to state the obvious but if we had won that penalty shoot-out, we wouldn't have been promoted. We'd have been in another game against a side who had beaten us twice earlier in the season.
If he's still here on Saturday I'll be singing his name loud. I was certain when I saw him crying his eyes out at Charlton that it'd be our parting memory of him, and how sad that would have been after all the goals he's scored for us.
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Still would have had a crazy chance though
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I only think some rovers fans will only appreciate what marquis has done for the rovers when he’s been replaced because I hope I’m wrong he will take some replacing I know sometimes he looks disinterested and waving his arms about but I’d sooner have a player like him who knows where the back of the net is and a winner if only he could take penalties.
We’ve had a fair few crap strikers over the years who have had less criticism so get behind him even if he goes after Saturday 👍👍👍
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Zzzzzzz no matter how long we debate this for, what will be will be.
Can we just look forward to the new season with him as a rovers player?
This is just like the saga when sharp left us and we've managed to cope since then. We will cope again if he stays or if he goes we just need to be behined the team at 3pm on Saturday and hope for a good start to the season
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Marquis will be extremely difficult to replace and maybe some of his doubters will be wishing they’d kept quiet
We will be very lucky if we get a 20 goal striker who works as hard as he does
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13 pages and still nothing concrete on what's going on!
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S'pose that says it all steve - the way the club work at the current time - there'll be nothing concrete for anyone to talk about till after it's done/or not so.
The way it should be surely?
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13 pages and still nothing concrete on what's going on!
Exactly. What will be is what will be. DM will definitely have potential replacements lined up.
I am quite sure he hasn’t been twiddling his thumbs for the last 3 weeks.
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It's looking like Sheff U now have a deal in place for McBurnie, so maybe Swansea will want to spend some of that £17 million.
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It's looking like Sheff U now have a deal in place for McBurnie, so maybe Swansea will want to spend some of that £17 million.
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That's miles from Brighton/Bournemouth..... :ohmy: :)
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Swansea would be a good move for him. Depends on his wage demands I reckon.
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It's looking like Sheff U now have a deal in place for McBurnie, so maybe Swansea will want to spend some of that £17 million.
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That's miles from Brighton/Bournemouth..... :ohmy: :)
Maybe Adebayo Akinfenwa is his agent!
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Swansea would be a good move for him. Depends on his wage demands I reckon.
And his family’s requirements.?
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Billy seems to be slipping down the order at blunts
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Plenty of reports today he’s going to Portsmouth
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Plenty of reports today he’s going to Portsmouth
1 million plus add ons is the figure reported.
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Plenty of reports today he’s going to Portsmouth
Link?
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https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-closing-in-on-doncaster-striker-and-charlton-target-1-9017846/amp?__twitter_impression=true (https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-closing-in-on-doncaster-striker-and-charlton-target-1-9017846/amp?__twitter_impression=true)
Their local.
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Absolutely gutted even more so to lose him to Portsmouth.
Wish John well for the future and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching him play for us.
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At least if this is true it gives us time to react, transferwise.
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Let’s hope it’s sorted soonest so that DM has time to swoop on Dybala
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I posted this 2 days ago and quite a few said I was talking nonsense. Shame to see him go but let’s hope Moore gets the money to spend
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We all knew this would be happening. Let's hope it goes through quickly so we can get an adequate replacement sorted.
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1 million is poor if true,
Hard to believe that’s what we were asking for in January
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With Portsmouth being in League One and frankly a bit shit in greater scheme of things, you would hope some kind of bidding war might result, with higher fee. He is hardly likely to be jumping at this offer given no guarantee of Championship and still being a fair trek from south London.
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If he does go maybe we should contact blades about letting us have ched Evans so he’s not on their wage bill.
There’s no way he will play in the premiership
If he could get anywhere near his past best he’d be worth a punt
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1 million is poor if true,
Hard to believe that’s what we were asking for in January
"...for a fee believed to be well in advance of £1m."
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1 million is poor if true,
Hard to believe that’s what we were asking for in January
The article - whether well sourced or not - specifically says “well in advance of £1m” and makes no mention of the fee being £1m.
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The Sunderland owner at their meet the owners thing the other night said that's it's likely that one or two players from league one might miss out on their moves to the Championship (I had a feeling he was referring to Marquis) and they were in the best position to take advantage of this, as they are the next best thing. As good as promoted.
Their local paper this morning said they look like missing out on Marquis.
Wish Charlton would have got their finger out as it's never good to lose out to a club in the same division. Still a tidy profit to reinvest.
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Quite remarkable they can splash this kind of money around given they couldn’t pay their creditors in only a few years back. Football eh?
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I don't see it as an issue. Bigger club, much bigger funds, closer to his home etc. Bad for us this close to the season but it is what it is.
Poor for John though going to another league 1 side and one that never beats us these days. Got to feel the championship is where he should be though I suspect his second half of the season (6 goals from 21 games) didn't help him on that front.
No doubt we are all right to be worried though 3 days from the season already light on players and losing your top scorer after already losing many other goals and the manager is a huge problem.
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1 million is poor if true,
Hard to believe that’s what we were asking for in January
The report said in well in advance of £1 million
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Quite remarkable they can splash this kind of money around given they couldn’t pay their creditors in only a few years back. Football eh?
Any funds they spend on him are coming from selling a player to fund it to be fair.
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So no real decent striker in the squad 4 days before our first game. Not reight good that is it.
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With Portsmouth being in League One and frankly a bit shit in greater scheme of things, you would hope some kind of bidding war might result, with higher fee. He is hardly likely to be jumping at this offer given no guarantee of Championship and still being a fair trek from south London.
Your assuming other clubs are interested
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Quite remarkable they can splash this kind of money around given they couldn’t pay their creditors in only a few years back. Football eh?
Good turn around for them, it's taken a lot of dedication and support to get there. I'd be v surprised if they'd push far beyond their means.
This probably helps them with the spending:
"Matt Clarke has gone the other way for a fee of around £4m with Jamal Lowe today close to joining Wigan for around £2.5m."
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I would have thought that there will have been a replacement lined up and those wheels will be in motion if the deal is as far along as reported
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I would have thought that there will have been a replacement lined up and those wheels will be in motion if the deal is as far along as reported
I genuinely hope so, but it seems very rare our club does anything that quickly.
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We need some good news from somewhere soon. With 4 days to go until the big kick-off we are still 4 or 5 players short and it looks like we will have another bucket load of goals to try and replace up front.
Many of us have been trying to stay optimistic all pre-season but things need to start happening now, and quickly.
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We need some good news from somewhere soon. With 4 days to go until the big kick-off we are still 4 or 5 players short and it looks like we will have another bucket load of goals to try and replace up front.
Many of us have been trying to stay optimistic all pre-season but things need to start happening now, and quickly.
Tend to agree, there's a huge few days and weeks ahead.
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Typical. This news broke within 1/2 hour of laying a bet on us to win Saturday. Should have waited for better odds!
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It will be interesting to see how we spend the money, if this does happen.
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I usually don't criticise the Club, but this doesn't bode well in relation to our promotion 'Ambitions '. Don't mind us selling to a Championship Club, but to a fellow promotion rival?
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
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When is the time to start getting concerened, the trialists were supposed to be getting a decision on Monday, then it was Tuesday, now its Wednesday and not a hint of anyone coming in, I think we are being fed the same old manegerial bullshit
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I usually don't criticise the Club, but this doesn't bode well in relation to our promotion 'Ambitions '. Don't mind us selling to a Championship Club, but to a fellow promotion rival?
Its not ideal but if theyre the only club willing to pay the money we want & Marquis is intent on leaving then the deal has to be done. No point keeping an unhappy player.
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Has this been confirmed yet
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
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When is the time to start getting concerened, the trialists were supposed to be getting a decision on Monday, then it was Tuesday, now its Wednesday and not a hint of anyone coming in, I think we are being fed the same old manegerial bullshit
Just because things aren’t concluded in public doesn’t mean they’re not happening..
Now I don’t know one way or another what is going on, but who knew anything about our new GK before his announcement.?
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
No it won’t, you’ll just jump to the same conclusions..
I’m not exactly delighted that he may move to a rival for promotion but these sort of things happen in football..
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When is the time to start getting concerened, the trialists were supposed to be getting a decision on Monday, then it was Tuesday, now its Wednesday and not a hint of anyone coming in, I think we are being fed the same old manegerial bullshit
Just because things aren’t concluded in public doesn’t mean they’re not happening..
Now I don’t know one way or another what is going on, but who knew anything about our new GK before his announcement.?
We kept being told to be patient, the season starts in 3 days, we have a threadbare squad, how patient do we have to be, we don’t want to be playing catch up, there are 6 league games before the window closes, 18 points to play for and we are nowhere near prepared
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He has been a great servant to this club, I wish him well, I wonder if Portsmouth would consider giving me and my mates the £10 we all chucked in a bucket to save them not so long ago in the pub down there, now they are flush and splashing the cash.
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Got to be a good up and coming striker from LG 2 or conference or even lower German leagues or something that we can splash some of this cash on
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Club should really know by now not to put dates on anything in the media. Just causes disappointment. Personally i hope that the Marquis deal is the domino that we are waiting for and the signings after that are better than what we've had on trial.
This can't be treated the same as when GM left where only when it's finalised do we start looking to replace. We've no excuse here we knew since jan at the latest that Marquis would probably leave if we didn't go up. I know DM is fairly new vut since day one it should have been clear.
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I'd take Brett Pitman from Pompey (plus the cash) if it were an option...
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Aye, you love this sort of thing don't you.
We always knew this could happen. If there was wind of it earlier in the week then I would imagine DM and the club are prepared for the eventuality, which may, or may not alter their targets for recruitment.
They will be keen to deliver good news if bad news is on the horizon too.
On the other hand, as far as we know there may not have agreed a deal yet, and as others have pointed out, it may force the hand of other interested clubs.
All speculation of course, but too late, once again your teddies are already out of the pram!
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
That's won me a pint. Cheers.
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Aye, you love this sort of thing don't you.
We always knew this could happen. If there was wind of it earlier in the week then I would imagine DM and the club are prepared for the eventuality, which may, or may not alter their targets for recruitment.
They will be keen to deliver good news if bad news is on the horizon too.
On the other hand, as far as we know there may not have agreed a deal yet, and as others have pointed out, it may force the hand of other interested clubs.
All speculation of course, but too late, once again your teddies are already out of the pram!
I’m not sure the club are keen to get any news out, even the Free Press guys on twitter have resorted to recycling old news
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Aye, you love this sort of thing don't you.
We always knew this could happen. If there was wind of it earlier in the week then I would imagine DM and the club are prepared for the eventuality, which may, or may not alter their targets for recruitment.
They will be keen to deliver good news if bad news is on the horizon too.
On the other hand, as far as we know there may not have agreed a deal yet, and as others have pointed out, it may force the hand of other interested clubs.
All speculation of course, but too late, once again your teddies are already out of the pram!
I’m not sure the club are keen to get any news out, even the Free Press guys on twitter have resorted to recycling old news
Will be as in future tense, as in holding info back.
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Free Press now reporting fee near to £2 million. I'm sure this is what the club have been waiting for before making signing new players. They'll have plan a, b, c based on what money DM has available. We should be in for a decent couple of days......
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Free Press now reporting fee near to £2 million. I'm sure this is what the club have been waiting for before making signing new players. They'll have plan a, b, c based on what money DM has available. We should be in for a decent couple of days......
Yes, and saying he's commenced talks on personal terms, so maybe safe to assume the bid has matched the valuation.
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I don't think you can really argue with 2million at this stage. Back in January over that.
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Marquis should only be allowed to leave when we have our targets nailed down as well as the fee being agreed .
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Marquis should only be allowed to leave when we have our targets nailed down as well as the fee being agreed .
Perhaps we have.
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Or we haven’t!
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Or we haven’t!
Or we have!
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Good luck John. Cant begrudge him the move but pompey is still a fair way from london.
At then end of the day this is football we move on, and this is his career.
Just wished, for him, that he gets the championship chance
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Marquis should only be allowed to leave when we have our targets nailed down as well as the fee being agreed .
Do you really think the club, and the new manager as well as the old one, have not been looking at potential Marquis replacements.??
Do you really have such little faith in the club you claim to have supported for 50 years.?
Give me strength.!
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Marquis should only be allowed to leave when we have our targets nailed down as well as the fee being agreed .
Doesn't work like that does it.
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It’s always going to be a sad day when we loose are main man but also how often do DRFC have an opportunity like this where the manager is told u have around 2 million to build a team , could be an exciting time ahead
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£2m is a decent fee. Fairly happy with that. It's more the timing and the desperate lack of depth in several areas of the team that is a concern.
We were all (well, mostly) enthused by the appointment of DM, but if he isn't going to have any players to work with he faces an uphill battle.
Patience is starting to wear thin now and it's beginning to look like a nightmare summer that needs quickly turning round.
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Why do you come on this site to spout drivel.
You just can’t get enough of having a go at the club can you.
Very Very Sad. What a miserable existence you must have.
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Whilst we may start the season short of a full squad, the transfer window doesn’t shut until September. Today it is still July.
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Why do you come on this site to spout drivel.
You just can’t get enough of having a go at the club can you.
Very Very Sad. What a miserable existence you must have.
To add to that JM WANTED to leave.
With a year left on his contract there is no guarantee he would sign another.
Therefore the club's hand is forced, and to get 2 million for a player with a year left on his contract is good business.
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Whilst we may start the season short of a full squad, the transfer window doesn’t shut until September. Today it is still July.
6 League games from now until September, lets hope we go injury free till then with our starting 11, because there is no back up at all
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
Why do you come on this site to spout drivel.
You just can’t get enough of having a go at the club can you.
Very Very Sad. What a miserable existence you must have.
To add to that JM WANTED to leave.
With a year left on his contract there is no guarantee he would sign another.
Therefore the club's hand is forced, and to get 2 million for a player with a year left on his contract is good business.
Did he put in a transfer request?
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Whilst we may start the season short of a full squad, the transfer window doesn’t shut until September. Today it is still July.
6 League games from now until September, lets hope we go injury free till then with our starting 11, because there is no back up at all
I didn’t mean we don’t need to sign anyone until just before the end of the window..!
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Well if JM is about to depart i also would like to wish him well.
Been a fantastic player for us. It’s been a very long time since anyone has scored 20+ goals 3 seasons running.
Personally I think he should have stayed with us as Pompey are in the same Div with no guarantee of promotion.
His dream of Championship football still may not come to fruition.
Money talks so no doubt his wages will have increased by 50% or possibly quite a bit more.
Anyway not confirmed yet is it. Still all speculation until the t’s are crossed and the i’s dotted.
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Free Press now reporting fee near to £2 million. I'm sure this is what the club have been waiting for before making signing new players. They'll have plan a, b, c based on what money DM has available. We should be in for a decent couple of days......
Good luck to John, but I am struggling to remember how many times over the last three weeks or so that we have been told we are in for an exciting couple of days.
As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
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The FP said it was close to £2m
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
Must be gospel then eh !!
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
Must be gospel then eh !!
I usually find him very reliable.
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
Must be gospel then eh !!
Either believe information from a reliable source close to the club or just make your own mind up. It's up to you.
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
Must be gospel then eh !!
Either believe information from a reliable source close to the club or just make your own mind up. It's up to you.
It is unlikely we will ever get to know anyway.
The fee will be undisclosed.
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We need to be getting bids in ASAP.
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I hope we haven’t waited for him to go before we make moves for targets. We risk clubs putting prices up if they are aware we have received a decent fee.
That is unless we’re just wanting to plug gaps with loans.
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Anyone fancy Gary hooper on a free. Be able to offer a decent wage now
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Personally think close to 2 million is a great deal for us at this stage, shame it had to wait until a few days before the season starts but at least this saga ends and another one opens.
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I hope we haven’t waited for him to go before we make moves for targets. We risk clubs putting prices up if they are aware we have received a decent fee.
That is unless we’re just wanting to plug gaps with loans.
I’d like to see us identify a good young striker and invest 500k with the hope of making a good profit again.
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It’s always going to be a sad day when we loose are main man but also how often do DRFC have an opportunity like this where the manager is told u have around 2 million to build a team , could be an exciting time ahead
No room for such positivity on here son!! ;)
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As for people saying that £2m is a decent fee, who says we are getting £2m ?
Liam Hoden/Free Press.
Must be gospel then eh !!
Either believe information from a reliable source close to the club or just make your own mind up. It's up to you.
It is unlikely we will ever get to know anyway.
The fee will be undisclosed.
Be fairly easy to see in the full accounts as he will be valued at zero in the accounts so it will be a gain on disposal.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
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Gavin B did say the money from his sale would go to team building ie a replacement for JM
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
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I don’t think it’s fair to judge ambition (or any perceived lack of) until our transfer activity has been concluded. Right now that must surely be a long way off. We have to be honest, if we are to challenge for promotion then incomings are needed with some sense of urgency now. Let’s trust it’s happening and hope for some much needed good news very soon.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
If the board are happy to stay in the top ten Sproty, why on Earth would they say they want top 6 again this season, as failure to do that will just make the club look like under-achievers?
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
If the board are happy to stay in the top ten Sproty, why on Earth would they say they want top 6 again this season, as failure to do that will just make the club look like under-achievers?
Didn't you know everything is a conspiracy and they're just saying it to sell season tickets?
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
As IDM has said already, how do you justify that opening statement. What evidence do you have?
The Board have stated on numerous occasions “ promotion is the target “
Are you saying the Board are liars?
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It’s a shame this didn’t come earlier because we could have invested in signing Wilks on a permanent.
But overall sad to see him go but glad we haven’t been mugged off on the fee front.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
Ah, so things haven’t happened immediately to your satisfaction then..
Has Marquis actually gone yet.? Did you read the DFP site about the club looking for replacement.?
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When is the time to start getting concerened, the trialists were supposed to be getting a decision on Monday, then it was Tuesday, now its Wednesday and not a hint of anyone coming in, I think we are being fed the same old manegerial bullshit
Just because things aren’t concluded in public doesn’t mean they’re not happening..
Now I don’t know one way or another what is going on, but who knew anything about our new GK before his announcement.?
We kept being told to be patient, the season starts in 3 days, we have a threadbare squad, how patient do we have to be, we don’t want to be playing catch up, there are 6 league games before the window closes, 18 points to play for and we are nowhere near prepared
That’s just your opinion....
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
Your reply came in a bit quick. Before my previous post.
Ok then what are we supposed to do. We assume JM was offered a much higher wage.
Portsmouth are a bigger club than us with gates over twice as large.
JM’s contract has 12 months on it, so are we supposed to keep a player who want’s to go and end up with nothing in 12 months.
That is not a lack of ambition it is just the real football world.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
If the board are happy to stay in the top ten Sproty, why on Earth would they say they want top 6 again this season, as failure to do that will just make the club look like under-achievers?
Lip service
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:facepalm:
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If a club meets the asking price and the player wants to go, what choice do we have, regardless of the division.?
Don't sell him to a promotion rival, and for less than he's worth, and 4 days before first game of the season Its THAT simple.
If this happens, it will tell alit of the true ambition of the board
That's won me a pint. Cheers.
Just need a comment from 'Esdailles left foot ' for a full house at moaners bingo
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
If the board are happy to stay in the top ten Sproty, why on Earth would they say they want top 6 again this season, as failure to do that will just make the club look like under-achievers?
Lip service
Bet you're a delight to live with for the 12 month leading up to Christmas every year.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
Your reply came in a bit quick.
Ok then what are we supposed to do. We assume JM was offered a much higher wage.
Portsmouth are a bigger club than us with gates over twice as large.
JM’s contract has 12 months on it, so are we supposed to keep a player who want’s to go and end up with nothing in 12 months.
That is not a lack of ambition it is just the real football world.
Hey I have been trailing around supporting Doncaster Rovers since 1973. I don’t normally say anything detrimental about the club but my opinion is that we are happy to stay in this Division in the top ten,when I see this wonderful replacement appear on the scene I may change my mind, but not until.
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Marquis should only be allowed to leave when we have our targets nailed down as well as the fee being agreed .
Strange statement but why do you think that?
should we bind and gag him then leave him in the basement?
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Whilst we may start the season short of a full squad, the transfer window doesn’t shut until September. Today it is still July.
6 League games from now until September, lets hope we go injury free till then with our starting 11, because there is no back up at all
I didn’t mean we don’t need to sign anyone until just before the end of the window..!
So when do we need to sign them by?
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Good business imo. No guarantee Marquis will come good at Pompey. And goes against his desire for championship football this season. But he’s been brilliant for us, so good luck to him.
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Whilst we may start the season short of a full squad, the transfer window doesn’t shut until September. Today it is still July.
6 League games from now until September, lets hope we go injury free till then with our starting 11, because there is no back up at all
I didn’t mean we don’t need to sign anyone until just before the end of the window..!
So when do we need to sign them by?
Any time between today and the end of the window, ideally closer to today, that goes without saying..
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I honestly don’t know why we get drawn into replying to some of these people. They can’t seriously be serious can they?
They just seem to be living on another planet in a different solar system.
I can’t really believe they are supporters of our club and actually attend any matches.
If they do why?
Someone help me please. :crying:
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I think it’s symptomatic of society today.
So much p*ssing and whining. They need to get a f**king grip!
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I honestly don’t know why we get drawn into replying to some of these people. They can’t seriously be serious can they?
They just seem to be living on anther planet in a different solar system.
I can’t really believe they are supporters of our club and actually attend any matches.
If they do why?
Someone help me please. :crying:
Some looked at the chalk board and listened .......and some looked out the window
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
Yes it’s the clubs fault I mean Marquis is totally blameless isn’t he. He couldn’t have anything to do with him being sold could he?
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I think it's fair to say that the club tried their best to keep him. It's not for want of trying, but JM wanted away. He didn't get what he wanted, as in Championship football, but he got his move away from this club.
Let's move on.
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I think it's fair to say that the club tried their best to keep him. It's not for want of trying, but JM wanted away. He didn't get what he wanted, as in Championship football, but he got his move away from this club.
Let's move on.
I hope we have something to move on to very soon. We need it.
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We shouldn’t be showing him any malleus for wanting to leave. Almost all of our better players have left over the years.
What he’s done for us has been nothing short of remarkable and he’ll be in our history books forever now.
I’m desperately hoping the club have already had fees agreed for his replacement, May up front on Saturday isn’t a pretty thought.
If we now have 2 million on top of the budget which is bigger than last season and with all the players that have left we should be spending more than we ever have before over the next few weeks
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Moore said on the Radio Sheffield thing that the club have put in two offers for players.
It wasn't reported on here because someone obviously picked out the negatives, but its something.
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A master-stroke by Pompey to scupper us at the eleventh hour.
Marquis and Wilks scored 37 league goals between them. We need strikers who can make up that sort of shortfall.
Moore clearly can't make up his mind about players as he was going to make decisions days ago and time is running out. If we are not in the top half of the table at Christmas the love affair with Moore will soon turn sour. A loss to Gillingham will give us a negative start.
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A master-stroke by Pompey to scupper us at the eleventh hour.
Marquis and Wilks scored 37 league goals between them. We need strikers who can make up that sort of shortfall.
Moore clearly can't make up his mind about players as he was going to make decisions days ago and time is running out. If we are not in the top half of the table at Christmas the love affair with Moore will soon turn sour. A loss to Gillingham will give us a negative start.
Not exactly the 11th hour.
Yes, we need players to make up some of that shortfall.
What evidence is there to say DM can't make his mind up. Just because he doesn't publish his thoughts for your benefit doesn't mean anything.
Correct. A loss would be a negative start. 45 games, 9 months remaining.
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I hold no ill will to him, he's done brilliant for us getting somewhere like 70 goals in 3 seasons. He's had a kid and wants to move closer to his partners parents, which is fair enough and will be going to what I believe is the strongest team in the league. Sounds like we're getting decent money for him too and the fact we've tried to offer him a deal is positive. Annoying he'll be going to another League One team and if we don't get anyone in soon we could be playing catch up.
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He possibly wanted a move, to get away from our idiot fans that were giving him abuse every game.
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Think this was the first reference to JM on the forum - this was in the week most people expected JR and LT to usurp TB, DW and co - to no avail obviously and clearly, in hindsight, never a possibility.
This was from raggytash in 2014 - there were more folk hoping the 'marquis signing' should the takeover happen was the Marquis de Sade or Paul Marquis (name from the past - lol)
"John Marquis? Not sure he'd turn many heads though"
How times change.
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
It should be remembered that we actually won the game.
We just lost the shoot out.
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We obviously disagree. Baz.
I think 2-3 days off the first game IS the eleventh hour and had we stolen a star striker from Sunderland, Ipswich or Portsmouth I would be laughing my socks off.
The 37 goals Marquis and Wilkes scored only just scraped us into 6th, I would say we need strikers to score even more if we want to finish higher and there is no-one in the current squad who will get anywhere near that.
Evidence? Did Moore not say he only needed another 24 hours to decide on Ward and Baptiste, and that was last week. He doesn’t need to publish his thoughts, he just needs to make up his mind.
If we want to at least achieve the same success as last year we need similar results throughout. Some of us will be watching closely based on facts and not just faith or hope.
And as for Marquis, good luck to the lad. He has done us well, as did Butler, Rowe and Marosi.
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Did Moore not say he only needed another 24 hours to decide on Ward and Baptiste, and that was last week. Monday
He doesn’t need to publish his thoughts, he just needs to make up his mind. Who says he hasn't ?
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I’m hoping DM has made his mind up on Ward and Baptiste and that’s precisely why they’ve not signed. With the budget we have we should expect better. Especially now.
Baptiste would be decent cover and that’s it. Our central defensive options would still be weaker than last season.
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Looks like the Board are happy to stay in the top ten of league one! From some of the posts I’ve seen on here the Championship is an expensive league to be in. Most clubs losing £15 million per annum. I’m just disappointed that we have sold to a rival club as this Forum is going to be Hell for at least 12 months!
Please justify your opening statement.?
Because I have not seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise, and today a rival club has forked out £2 million on a proven 20 plus goal scorer. And what have we done ? Sold a 20 plus goal scorer to a rival team. It doesn’t take any working out does it? Let’s see what happens in the next few days.
Ah, so things haven’t happened immediately to your satisfaction then..
Has Marquis actually gone yet.? Did you read the DFP site about the club looking for replacement.?
Well Wiki still says he plays for Doncaster Rovers.
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I think it's fair to say that the club tried their best to keep him. It's not for want of trying, but JM wanted away. He didn't get what he wanted, as in Championship football, but he got his move away from this club.
Let's move on.
they tried but 8 months to late
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I'm expecting an announcement tomorrow saying that both Ward and Baptiste have signed 1 year deals.
Then maybe a loan deal on Friday , followed by 1 permanent signing whenever it is complete.
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Did Moore not say he only needed another 24 hours to decide on Ward and Baptiste, and that was last week. Monday
He doesn’t need to publish his thoughts, he just needs to make up his mind. Who says he hasn't ?
Yes, and maybe one of the factors in saying he was taking another 24 hrs, was the knowledge that the Marquis situation was coming to a head. Who knows, he may have had second thoughts with a view to signing even better players.
It's difficult for any manager in the public spotlight when you know people are hanging on your every word.
Again, let's see how things pan out. It's not the first time and won't be the last.
I don't expect things to click into place immediately preferring us to use the funds wisely rather than let the imminent first game affect the long term thinking.
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I’m hoping DM has made his mind up on Ward and Baptiste and that’s precisely why they’ve not signed. With the budget we have we should expect better. Especially now.
Baptiste would be decent cover and that’s it. Our central defensive options would still be weaker than last season.
Baptiste is only seen as cover
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I think it's fair to say that the club tried their best to keep him. It's not for want of trying, but JM wanted away. He didn't get what he wanted, as in Championship football, but he got his move away from this club.
Let's move on.
they tried but 8 months to late
Not the clubs fault vicar you can’t make someone who wants to leave stay
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A few weeks ago, DM was the best thing since sliced bread for everyone on here. So it makes sense to trust him to manage things. We’ve lost JM which of course is a blow, but let’s allow DM to do his thing and let’s see where we are at the business end of the season.
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
The Andy Butler song I'll take to the grave with me. Brilliant.
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Has it been confirmed he's gone yet?
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
The Andy Butler song I'll take to the grave with me. Brilliant.
In the second half a couple of Scottish lads came and stood next to me.
They were former school pals and still good friends with Ali Crawford.
We have some great banter and when Butts scored they jumped all over me and the other lads in our vicinity, like you do when it’s mates you have always known.
Brilliant atmosphere.
By the way, after the game I realised they had nicked my wallet !!
(That last bit isn’t true).
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Has it been confirmed he's gone yet?
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=273301.msg885163#msg885163
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I’ll be honest here! I appreciate he bagged 20+ goals although the second half of the season it was as dry as the Gobi desert. There’s a clue maybe.
Often I would purposely watch his body language and especially the actions and reactions between him and his teammates. It appeared to not be an altogether harmonious relationship as ‘billy big b*llocks’ would mouth of and flail his arms around with a sneer. I get the impression his teammates are thinking get the f**k off, at last.
I’m not that sad to see him go. I thought he might go to a Championship team and good luck to him. Unfortunately it’s a side wards move that I believe will be followed by a downward and out the door move. Not good enough for the Championship so even if Pompey succeed I think it may be bench at best for John when/if they get there.
I believe the timing of the move is entirely of John’s doing. He could and should have gone earlier to give us a chance to recruit but that’s not how footballers think or care.
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
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Tomorrows pre match presser should be interesting
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
The Andy Butler song I'll take to the grave with me. Brilliant.
In the second half a couple of Scottish lads came and stood next to me.
They were former school pals and still good friends with Ali Crawford.
We have some great banter and when Butts scored they jumped all over me and the other lads in our vicinity, like you do when it’s mates you have always known.
Brilliant atmosphere.
By the way, after the game I realised they had nicked my wallet !!
(That last bit isn’t true).
Brilliant that. Some commitment from his mates to treck down from Scotland to witness that. Sure they enjoyed every minute of it!
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My last memory of John will be him nodding home against Charlton to send me (& 1300 others) into absolute dream land. Can't put a price on that. (Penalty miss is irrelevant)
Thanks John. Miss you already. Hope you get better treatment off the Pompy fans rather than the abuse you've had to take off some of our supporters who've never kicked a ball in their life.
Unbelievable game. Although we lost I think it’s up there in my top 5 games. The atmosphere and limbs in the away were just incredible.
The Andy Butler song I'll take to the grave with me. Brilliant.
In the second half a couple of Scottish lads came and stood next to me.
They were former school pals and still good friends with Ali Crawford.
We have some great banter and when Butts scored they jumped all over me and the other lads in our vicinity, like you do when it’s mates you have always known.
Brilliant atmosphere.
By the way, after the game I realised they had nicked my wallet !!
(That last bit isn’t true).
Brilliant that. Some commitment from his mates to treck down from Scotland to witness that. Sure they enjoyed every minute of it!
TBH Moncaster, the atmosphere in our end for that match was the best I have experienced for years.
Very special.
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I'd be amazed if this doesn't go through. From JM's perspective it's a good move having played at Pompey before and played for Jackett before.
How can we not appreciate his contribution. He delivered, and was consistent. He always put a lot of energy into his game and like most strikers, he showed frustration at times and also couldn't hit a barn door at times.
There's a reason he's gone/going for well over £1m and I wish him all the best.
When one door closes, another one opens and we are in a good position (although it might not seem it right now).
Alot of clubs are trimming their squads and are feeling the pinch. If we're smart, we could take advantage without putting all our eggs in one basket.
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A master-stroke by Pompey to scupper us at the eleventh hour.
Marquis and Wilks scored 37 league goals between them. We need strikers who can make up that sort of shortfall.
Moore clearly can't make up his mind about players as he was going to make decisions days ago and time is running out. If we are not in the top half of the table at Christmas the love affair with Moore will soon turn sour. A loss to Gillingham will give us a negative start.
Another ridiculous posts from the new master of ridiculously unfounded posts.
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I think the timing of it all this pre season hasn't been great, however, I personally think DM will be quite happy, he is getting a proper chance to create his own team, with what would seem like a decent budget. So prehaps GM & JM have done us a favour?
If anybody was there on Saturday, we seemed to manage ok against what I think will be a decent championship team.
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Pre season games are not often played with the same intensity as a league match.
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
Yes and this is from a club that dived from then premier League into L2 and is was run by the supporters ...of which there are many . They show ambitions of getting back to the PL and it’s abundantly obvious that we can’t even persuade a half decent player to stay by paying him what he wants as we haven’t got a tenth of JMs ambition or build a team around his goals . Who’s next Whiteman or Wright . It’s just pathetic and short sighted .
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
Yes and this is from a club that dived from then premier League into L2 and is was run by the supporters ...of which there are many . They show ambitions of getting back to the PL and it’s abundantly obvious that we can’t even persuade a half decent player to stay by paying him what he wants as we haven’t got a tenth of JMs ambition or build a team around his goals . Who’s next Whiteman or Wright . It’s just pathetic and short sighted .
They're owned by Michael Eisner who is worth more than our owners.
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
Yes and this is from a club that dived from then premier League into L2 and is was run by the supporters ...of which there are many . They show ambitions of getting back to the PL and it’s abundantly obvious that we can’t even persuade a half decent player to stay by paying him what he wants as we haven’t got a tenth of JMs ambition or build a team around his goals . Who’s next Whiteman or Wright . It’s just pathetic and short sighted .
If he wants to move nearer to his wife's family then matching their wages wouldn't keep him here.
The Rovers and JM have done very well for each other let's hope that we now both do well separately.
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
Yes and this is from a club that dived from then premier League into L2 and is was run by the supporters ...of which there are many . They show ambitions of getting back to the PL and it’s abundantly obvious that we can’t even persuade a half decent player to stay by paying him what he wants as we haven’t got a tenth of JMs ambition or build a team around his goals . Who’s next Whiteman or Wright . It’s just pathetic and short sighted .
You’re pathetic with your jibes at the club..
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Shhhh... the cheque hasn't cleared yet.
Yes and this is from a club that dived from then premier League into L2 and is was run by the supporters ...of which there are many . They show ambitions of getting back to the PL and it’s abundantly obvious that we can’t even persuade a half decent player to stay by paying him what he wants as we haven’t got a tenth of JMs ambition or build a team around his goals . Who’s next Whiteman or Wright . It’s just pathetic and short sighted .
Stop supporting the Rovers then.
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JM has done us proud. I have never been a big fan personally as he does a lot of moaning and sulking, but maybe it's easy to say that from the stands. Goal record speaks for itself and he will be sorely missed. Good luck to him and I hope he finds success at Portsmouth.
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JM has done us proud. I have never been a big fan personally as he does a lot of moaning and sulking, but maybe it's easy to say that from the stands. Goal record speaks for itself and he will be sorely missed. Good luck to him and I hope he finds success at Portsmouth.
......not too much success.
He might prevent us getting automatic promotion.
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Thanks for the memories but he’s a player for another team so don’t care about him anymore hope he’s a massive failure and doesn’t score at all having 15,000 Pompey fans on your back is a lot harder to deal with than 500 rovers fans
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Presume with their cash they have a few decent strikers there? Interesting to see how he gets on maybe playing in a two, or having to compete with other players for a one. Good luck to him.
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JM has done us proud. I have never been a big fan personally as he does a lot of moaning and sulking, but maybe it's easy to say that from the stands. Goal record speaks for itself and he will be sorely missed. Good luck to him and I hope he finds success at Portsmouth.
My thoughts too South Stand. We have to hope /believe/trust that DM was aware of this coming from the day he became Rovers manager & has merely been waiting for the £1m + to be ‘given’ In order to bring in a suitable replacement or alternatives,
JM is not DRFC. He’s made a mark here with his goals tally & those will be forever on our clubs record books. But this club will move on now without you. I hope you achieve all you desire in football as long as it’s not at our expense!
All the best for the future JM, you won’t be forgotten at this ‘little club’. I hope you make as bigger mark on Pompey’s history, but somehow I doubt it.
Hope you have a good season but that both you & Pompey will spend it forever looking up at us above you.
RTID
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JM has stated that a major factor in his decision to join Pompey was his family. I respect that.
He speaks fondly and positively about his time at Rovers, where he was given a "second home" and a place to belong and to feel valued.
Now, largely for personal reasons, he has moved on. He goes with my sincere thanks for his incredible efforts for my team, and with my best wishes.
The Club tried to keep him. He was offered a new contract, but he declined it.
No blame is attached to the Club for JM's departure in my opinion, nor for the timing of it, however unfortunate that timing may be.
So we roll up our sleeves, we trust in the Board and in our new Manager, and we move on.
Well, I do anyway.
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