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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: eastender on January 17, 2023, 06:06:04 pm
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Signed on loan from Leicester
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Admiral? Give us a clue.
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This will go down well, hope he’s got thick skin. Good luck to the lad
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
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Will he wear squad number 111?
Welcome Ben :thumbsup:
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1st choice England u19 centre back. Sounds good to me.
We have 6 contracted centre backs and 3 are out injured. On reflection, I think a loan makes sense in this position.
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
He played in Rochdale defence when we won 4. 3
I’m assume we have signed Ben because our defenders are weeks away from starting. Let’s hope he does ok but I do not understand Copps strategy let’s hope he does.
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Hope he’s as brave as Bobby
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
He played in Rochdale defence when we won 4. 3
I’m assume we have signed Ben because our defenders are weeks away from starting. Let’s hope he does ok but I do not understand Copps strategy let’s hope he does.
I have seen him play then
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
he is an England u19 for a reason.
I wish him well. He is young, should be fit and energetic and hopefully will come with a willingness to impress.
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
I bet DS and JC haven’t seen him play either. But he is an England u19 for a reason.
I wish him well. He is young, should be fit and energetic and hopefully will come with a willingness to impress.
Like I said, not to put a downer on him. If Faulkner was fit would this have happened and if so why did we send Faulkner out on loan?
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Looking forward to the signings that cost us soon from the money saved on who's left.
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I hope he has a change of luck, started seven games for Rochdale, won 0, Drawn 1. Lost 6 can we give him his first victory?
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Wasn’t the official word that Bobby needed to improve on the ball
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Data wise just based on defensive ability there isn't much at all between Bobby and Ben, literally wouldn't be able to say who's better. On the ball Nelson is a fair bit better though.
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By the End of January beginning of February we should have 5 of our CHs fit unless any of them are leaving in this window. Then we will have Younger fit in February. So at this moment to cover for the three CBs system we needed a loan.
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Looking at the way schofield wants us to play he was always going to bring in a centre half that’s very good on the ball.
I don’t think it matters much how he did at Rochdale
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Can’t fault any of the signings so far
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
I bet DS and JC haven’t seen him play either. But he is an England u19 for a reason.
I wish him well. He is young, should be fit and energetic and hopefully will come with a willingness to impress.
Like I said, not to put a downer on him. If Faulkner was fit would this have happened and if so why did we send Faulkner out on loan?
Faulkner was sent out on load as Oluwu was back to fitness. However, Oluwu and Faulkner then got injured in the same week.
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
Phil Foden been playing since he was 16 age and ability aren't exclusive
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The lad said our style of play will suit him far better.
Welcome
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Is a bit of a worry that one of the few defences I have seen this season that is worse than ours is Rochdales and he struggled to get in there side but maybe will be different here
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We do need better ball players in defence to control games.
It is a shame we sign other teams younger players rather than try our own. Faulkner is unlucky with injuries but even if fit you feel he’d not get a proper chance.
Maybe if we sell him to a bigger club we’d be in for him on loan.
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A few words from a really happy Ben
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJNQSUiX05c&t=16s
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Not to put a downer on this I’ve never seen him play, but, he’s the same age as Faulkner, (I know Faulkner is currently injured), but if our own 18 year old defender is deemed not good enough yet, why are we loaning a defender that struggled for game time at Rochdale?
He played in Rochdale defence when we won 4. 3
I’m assume we have signed Ben because our defenders are weeks away from starting. Let’s hope he does ok but I do not understand Copps strategy let’s hope he does.
Is this the player who one of the posters on here was waxing lyrical about?
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I am not sure you mean me, but this is what Selby said and my reply:-
In the game v Rochdale we played against a young player slightly older than Bobby Faulkner at central defender for Rochdale.
It looks like he went completely unnoticed as there has been no comments on here, he is valued at millions, is on loan from Leicester City, in the current England u19s squad that won the Euros and playing in the group stages, has played u16s for Scotland, u16s u18sand u19s for England, and nowhere near as good a stand out player at division 2 level as Bobby Faulkner IMHO.
Just saying like.
Totally disagree Selby, he looked like a Rolls Royce compared to the rest of the players on the pitch. As good as Faulkner is I think you should take off those rose tinted glasses.
Just saying like :crying: :lol:
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I remember that so let’s see what he does for us
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I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.
From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.
We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.
Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.
Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?
What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?
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We would be very foolish to bring in a permanent signing at CB
We have Olowu, Younger and Faulkner to come back.
A loan signing at CB is sensible. We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.
This lad is highly rated. He didn’t play for England U19’s and got a Euro winners medal because he is rubbish.
Maybe he had an injury that prevented him from playing regularly in the Rochdale team. They are very poor as a defensive unit and that won’t have helped his game or confidence.
Yes we aren’t brilliant either, but I think this lad can do a temporary job for us.
Obviously DS doesn’t rate Long so we had to bring someone in.
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Don’t mind us bringing in a young loan. Fact is we need players in the position now because of our own injuries. But I do hope we give our own players of promise a real chance to play.
If we don’t do that then what’s the point of our youth team and giving them pro contracts. Don’t mind them been raw if we see the benefit of us preserving with them
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Schofield probably figures that it is easier to coach youngsters than older players who may resist change. This may not be entirely justified, but it does provide a rationale.
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Wish them both the best of luck and hope they do well for us, still not sure what Copps is try to achieve
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I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.
From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.
We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.
Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.
Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?
What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?
because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work
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We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.
No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today
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I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.
From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.
We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.
Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.
Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?
What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?
because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work
This. Speculate to accumulate.
The alternative is boom and bust.
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We should not be digging at the young players they’ll come s do their best we will see if it will be good enough.
But the level of players that we bring in now is hope and development. So we hope they do ok.
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I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.
From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.
We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.
Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.
Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?
What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?
because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work
The evidence is against you.
We're a handful of points off the play offs with barely giving any game time to youth loanees this season so far. Perfectly competitive.
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Orient have 5 loanees aged 22, 21, 22, 20 and 25
Stevenage 5 loanees aged 21, 23, 30, 28 and 20
Northampton 3 loaness aged 21, 20 and 24.
(Two of the 20 year olds have only just signed and have just played 1 game between them this season so far.)
Not a single teenage youth loan in sight.
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I wish the boy every success as he faces the difficult challenge of acclimatising to League football whilst simultaneously learning how to live away from his Mum and look after himself.
From a Rovers perspective however I'm in baffled bewilderment at how anyone can look at the current squad and think what we need is more youthful inexperience particularly at centre half.
We have a (yes currently injured) 18 year old centre half of promise who has more than looked the part when he's played this year. Someone Rovers could develop to their long term benefit.
Yet his opportunities are restricted and he's farmed out on loan whilst we're seemingly happy to give opportunities to another club's unproven youth. A bemusing strategy.
Are Rovers' still a senior men's football team or merely a testing centre for other clubs' unproven youth players?
What possible benefit is derived from being the latter in terms of short-term success or long-term squad building?
because the only way to be competitive and sustainable at this level is to get young players on cheap loans and hope they work
The evidence is against you.
We're a handful of points off the play offs with barely giving any game time to youth loanees this season so far. Perfectly competitive.
The top 3 in League 2 have players on loan: -
Orient have 5 loanees aged 22, 21, 22, 20 and 25
Stevenage 5 loanees aged 21, 23, 30, 28 and 20
Northampton 3 loaness aged 21, 20 and 24.
Not a single teenage youth loan in sight.
I have no problem with loan players, and we are competitive due to there being many awful teams in this division, you would have hoped we would have been competitive towards the top 3 not to get in the play offs
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We don’t we look at adding experience instead of youngsters on loan hardly many have come off recently ; miller is in desperate need of a strike partner and get him firing again , is it a prerequisite that it’s the cheaper option before a permanent nearly every time in January when we need to build on what little we have
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I think it looks a decent signing. As does the right back
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Admiral? Give us a clue.
no Leicester have loaned the Admiral out to "aptly named" FLEETWOOD for the season
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/admiral-muskwe/profil/spieler/314378
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We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.
No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today
Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. ;)
Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England. Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.
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Managers stand and fall by their signings, Nelson could be Schofield’s, Waterloo!
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Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks
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Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks
Absolutely.
Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20
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Managers stand and fall by their signings, Nelson could be Schofield’s, Waterloo!
Or more likely his Trafalgar.
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Yes just sounded better Waterloo.
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Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks
Absolutely.
Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20
Wilks was also built like a brick shithouse meaning that he could handle himself rather than being ten stone wet through. Herbie was also on the chunky side!
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Please remind me how old were Kane and Wilks
Absolutely.
Wilks was 19 I think when he first came to us and Kane I think 20
Wilks was also built like a brick shithouse meaning that he could handle himself rather than being ten stone wet through. Herbie was also on the chunky side!
Cukur was a lump, but the least said about him the better.
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Yes just sounded better Waterloo.
Nelson had been dead almost ten years though by the time Waterloo was fought though Sammy.
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I know it p!ssed it down the night before the battle but not enough for boats.
It floated my boat though when my son and I went on a guided tour of the battle site many years ago
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We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.
No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today
Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. ;)
Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England. Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.
TBF though Camps, 120 games in those leagues, mens football, is better than most of the young player loanees that we often get when their first game for us is often their mens league debuts.
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From Campsall
We are not going to get a proven experienced defender on loan are we.
No we are not yet Leyton Orient have loaned an experienced Centre Half from Rotherham today
Your correct there are exceptions.
He has though only played 7 games in England for Rotherham.
The others games around 120 are in those two Mickey Mouse leagues known as the Scottish Championship and Scottish Premier league. ;)
Don’t forget we have discarded many players over the years to those two leagues because they are no better than League 1 and League 2 in England. Barring Celtic and Rangers who would be on par with our Championship clubs.
TBF though Camps, 120 games in those leagues, mens football, is better than most of the young player loanees that we often get when their first game for us is often their mens league debuts.
I was just being a bit sarcastic really, possibly a little disrespectful with ref to the Scottish Leagues.
Yes it is Mens pro football, and you can’t buy that experience.
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Scottish championship is probably Conference level?
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Scottish championship is probably Conference level?
I would say League 2 but point taken. The standard is not great is it? Quite a few National league teams are top end League 2 standard. :)
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Scottish championship is probably Conference level?
I would say League 2 but point taken. The standard is not great is it? Quite a few National league teams are top end League 2 standard. :)
Agreed if Wrexham and Notts both come up they will be promotion rivals straight away.
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I wish this lad all the luck in the world, I sincerely hope he does well for us and all through his career, but this is and has been since the Kings Lynn debacle a PR disaster for the club who have undermined the value of Bobby Faulkner to the club by ridiculous loose talk by senior management personnel, poor administration of his career, and unfortunately for Nelson who is going to be caught in the middle of a comparison with a youngster of our own that has been one of the few successes we have had this season and become a fans favourite, and by the same token have disillusioned a young player who just months ago would have run through a brick wall for the club and always wanted to do well and give his all for the shirt, quite a difference to the attitude portrayed by a lot of the players we have fielded this season.
I sometimes question the world wise education some people have in the football industry. Over the years we have had more than our fair share of poor decisions and publicity.
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I wish this lad all the luck in the world, I sincerely hope he does well for us and all through his career, but this is and has been since the Kings Lynn debacle a PR disaster for the club who have undermined the value of Bobby Faulkner to the club by ridiculous loose talk by senior management personnel, poor administration of his career, and unfortunately for Nelson who is going to be caught in the middle of a comparison with a youngster of our own that has been one of the few successes we have had this season and become a fans favourite, and by the same token have disillusioned a young player who just months ago would have run through a brick wall for the club and always wanted to do well and give his all for the shirt, quite a difference to the attitude portrayed by a lot of the players we have fielded this season.
I sometimes question the world wise education some people have in the football industry. Over the years we have had more than our fair share of poor decisions and publicity.
Well, that sounds to me like Bobby won’t be extending his contract with us when the time comes and will be looking to move to another club where he might be valued a little more.
I suspect that selby knows a bit more than he is actually saying there.
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Are you saying Faulkner is no longer interested in being a DRFC player, then?
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Yes just sounded better Waterloo.
So Nelson is coming to fly the flag for us with their manager's blessing ( The jolly roger ), he said he will keep "one eye" on him and told Schofield to put "one arm" around him. Nelson was so pleased with the loan that he said he would play on "one leg" for us
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Of course not, what makes you think that? the lad wants to play football and go as far in the game as he can, end of.
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I still wonder what the relationship is to Faulkener with Selby?
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I still wonder what the relationship is to Faulkener with Selby?
Regardless of the nature of the relationship it does leave a sour taste in the mouth with the poor handling of this situation.
Im not sure what sort of message it sends out to our young academy players but it seems regardless of your effort, work rate and desire we will always favour a supposedly "bigger teams " youth prospects to their detriment.
Im hoping the loan works out well for Nelson because if it does it means we will be in a stronger position for it, but if it goes tits up i can see some very disgruntled responses to this situation.
Im hoping that DS and JC have not just judged the situation right but also have the finances to justify this strategy.
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I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.
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I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.
Harry Worley.
Now 34 and retired from the game.
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I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion. But he does have potential.
We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.
Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.
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Nelson is merely a stop gap until Olowu and Younger are fit
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I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion. But he does have potential.
We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.
Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.
Some valid points here, although I do think Bobby has done well on the whole. I’d say he’s played more games by this stage than anyone anticipated, he’s shown plenty of promise but he’s very much still learning. We gave him the opportunity to get more games on loan (later than expected in the season) when we thought we were going to have a full complement of centre halves to choose from. That quickly changed and Bobby got injured too which was rotten luck and made it look like a terrible decision with the obvious benefit of perfect hindsight. Nelson offers much needed competition and cover as others including Bobby return to full fitness. It’s not overly helpful to play one off against the other, I think we ought to be hoping both do well. Bobby has no reason to feel disgruntled by his development here and we all hope he has a big future here and possibly beyond that. Some of the talk of him playing for England got a bit daft. Just let him develop.
The loanee point is interesting. I feel like if Woltman had come through our academy we’d have been raving about the flashes of technical brilliance and preaching patience as he adjusts to the men’s game. That’s very very different to the attitude shown towards him. That said I’ve never been a fan of developing another club’s player and allowing ourselves to be used to iron out their flaws.
Can’t be easy running a football club on a limited budget. And most clubs will have a limited budget and have these decisions to make in different ways.
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I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion. But he does have potential.
We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.
Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.
Personally, maybe I am blinkered but I like to think not, other than Big Tom I can't think he's been worse than anyone else in that back line.
Maybe me & others are wrong, but what have we got to lose by giving him game time this season?
The alternative he feels un-valued & someone else gives him a chance, meanwhile will we even remember who our better options were?
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Selby wrote:
Of course not, what makes you think that?
Just by reading what you wrote!
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I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion. But he does have potential.
We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.
Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.
Personally, maybe I am blinkered but I like to think not, other than Big Tom I can't think he's been worse than anyone else in that back line.
Maybe me & others are wrong, but what have we got to lose by giving him game time this season?
The alternative he feels un-valued & someone else gives him a chance, meanwhile will we even remember who our better options were?
Totally agree with this, we didn't have to play him in every game, but he would have developed a lot quicker playing in this league, a real talent who has been mismanaged in my opinion.
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I do fear this will blow up in our face regarding Bobby. Anyone who uses Twitter will be able to see that a lot of negative comments regarding the clubs handling of Bobby are liked by someone that I assume is his father. The most recent comment he liked, suggested that he would end up walking away for free.
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Or it could be Selby
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I do wonder what the view of Bobby would be if he was a loanee. He makes mistakes, poor with the ball at his feet and has questionably rash decision making in my opinion. But he does have potential.
We will not be successful this season with him in the defence because he just isn't ready and he needs more game time and technical coaching.
Whether Nelson is any better we will see in due course.
Some valid points here, although I do think Bobby has done well on the whole. I’d say he’s played more games by this stage than anyone anticipated, he’s shown plenty of promise but he’s very much still learning. We gave him the opportunity to get more games on loan (later than expected in the season) when we thought we were going to have a full complement of centre halves to choose from. That quickly changed and Bobby got injured too which was rotten luck and made it look like a terrible decision with the obvious benefit of perfect hindsight. Nelson offers much needed competition and cover as others including Bobby return to full fitness. It’s not overly helpful to play one off against the other, I think we ought to be hoping both do well. Bobby has no reason to feel disgruntled by his development here and we all hope he has a big future here and possibly beyond that. Some of the talk of him playing for England got a bit daft. Just let him develop.
The loanee point is interesting. I feel like if Woltman had come through our academy we’d have been raving about the flashes of technical brilliance and preaching patience as he adjusts to the men’s game. That’s very very different to the attitude shown towards him. That said I’ve never been a fan of developing another club’s player and allowing ourselves to be used to iron out their flaws.
Can’t be easy running a football club on a limited budget. And most clubs will have a limited budget and have these decisions to make in different ways.
Counter point on Woltman is that we get no benefit of developing him. If he was our own you’d know there’s a longer term vision and he doesn’t have to impact immediately just learn.
But the short term nature of loans means Nelson, Woltman etc all have to be 1st team quality now or else what’s the point.
That’s why it’s a bit gutting not to give Faulkner a chance but jump at the chance to give a player if s similar age a chance. If he’s not a much better player then it’s just favouritism of loans. If Nelson is rusty and raw then why not play our own player
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Or it could be Selby
the chap is called Brian Faulkner and has his picture with Bobby signing his contract.
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That the chap on Twitter then liking all the tweets?
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That the chap on Twitter then liking all the tweets?
yes
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Disappointed RR? start with the easy cross words buddy.
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I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at present.
A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.
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Disappointed RR? start with the easy cross words buddy.
No not at all, glad you aren't falling into the trap again
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I don't mind having kids on loan, as long as we are not OBLIGED to play them. Going back a way I remember a CH from Chelsea I think, Harry something. He was awful, but his name was the first on the team sheet, and we used to sub him in the second half asap because he was a liability. When they come from "big" clubs like Leicester it is always a worry.
Harry Worley.
Now 34 and retired from the game.
I can never forget the free kick he took at Chesterfield on a freezing cold night
Think it was for offside 10 yards in Rovers half. Harry W took it and didn't beat the first man. That was Chessies No.9 who was stood almost on Centre spot
Unbelievable Jeff
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I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at present.
A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.
that’s why he was sent to worksop, top of the league and dominate most games so they always have a lot of the ball. He couldn’t go to a national league side because they can’t loan players outside of the transfer window. Worksop was a good move for him to improve on the ball and would’ve been able to settle in easier with Kuleya being there.
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I really like Bobby, but I do think he would benefit from a loan rather than our first team at present.
A team like King’s Lynn would be perfect. Sending him to a backs against the wall sort of team isn’t going to help his on the ball play develop.
Did you see the King's Lynn Centre backs? The big fat lad looked head and shoulders above any CB on our books, I think Bobby would struggle for game time.
Regarding Nelson coming in, I hear DS didn't know much about it, he has an agent who is familiar to the club.
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Nelson starts today in back three.
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Nelson starts today in back three.
Where you found the line up?
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https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA
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https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA
Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.
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https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA
Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.
They're not, Beast, but still 2-0 up.
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https://twitter.com/drfc_official/status/1619334614979432450?cxt=HHwWhMC-pZaQhPksAAAA
Thank you. Quite a few options from the bench. Hope Mansfield aren't as good as they were at the Eco-Power.
They're not, Beast, but still 2-0 up.
:suicide:
How's Nelson done?
I'm working today thankfully!
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Given the ball away a dozen times.
So, about standard.
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Has tried to bring the ball out but his his passing has been awful
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Or it could be Selby
the chap is called Brian Faulkner and has his picture with Bobby signing his contract.
Isn't Selby called Brian? ;)
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Nelson was by far the best of the back three, which is admittedly not saying much.
But the kid looks a good player.
Let's give him a chance.
It wasn't just the defence's fault today.
The defending in front of them was very poor as well.
DS seems to be obsessed about developing a style of play when it's really the basics that need attention...at both ends of the field.
Trying to cut out the crazy mistakes and sloppy play would be a start.
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He's going to turn into a very good player
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Strange how we see things differently, I can remember 1 suicide pass to RSW in the 1st half but though he looked very comfortable with the ball at his feet and won his fair share of headers
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Strange how we see things differently, I can remember 1 suicide pass to RSW in the 1st half but though he looked very comfortable with the ball at his feet and won his fair share of headers
Agreed, I certainly can't remember him giving the ball away a dozen times, looked decent on the ball most of the time.
That defensive unit though, wow. Big Tom as bad as any of em. Mansfield were poor today, bet they can't believe how easy it was to get that result.
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Not hard when we gave them 3 goals
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Second half, Nelson was very good.
Brown and Lavery also made a difference.
Lavery movement was great, but nobody was looking at his runs,
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The lad has been involved in 2 games this season featuring Rovers and on both occasions the defence in which he has been part of have conceded 4 , is he the problem or the cure.
I suppose time will tell, but not looking good at the moment.