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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Prez on February 07, 2023, 03:05:58 pm
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Next monday.
This is going to be interesting!
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Now it’s out, let’s see who will turn up & ask a sensible well presented question to the owners.
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Now it’s out, let’s see who will turn up & ask a sensible well presented question to the owners.
Not with less than a weeks notice for me. Bit disappointed at that.
But, I hope it's a positive and open meeting with constructive questions.
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Going for the entertainment value. All of you who like to moan, get moaning to the men that count
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Would like to see online virtual options too.
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Going for the entertainment value. All of you who like to moan, get moaning to the men that count
I'd imagine that Terry Bramall and all of the other board members are aware of what is put on here and the social media pages by the minority who say unsavoury things.
JR even said something on his Facebook page mentioning about a specific person saying things about him.
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Are the questions all vetted before they are asked?
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Can't wait to hear how we selling new chips and the seats will be washed in the summer. All the big stuff
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I admire them for doing this but I see it being nothing but a complete waste of time. Stupid questions, politician answers back to square one with nothing sorted.
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They will only answer what they want, and they won’t be honest,
They did say at the last one that we weren’t in a relegation battle!!!! We went down,
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They will only answer what they want, and they won’t be honest,
They did say at the last one that we weren’t in a relegation battle!!!! We went down,
what's the saying? Damned if you do.....
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I admire them for doing this but I see it being nothing but a complete waste of time. Stupid questions, politician answers back to square one with nothing sorted.
Scrap it then, and never bother again.
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Inform yesterday about MTO as of now all tickets gone. Seems strange they never go that quick Hand picked ??
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I got one. I happened to see it on social media pretty swiftly and bagged a ticket straight away.
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A few probably picked them up before KO last night?
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I tried this morning and was told all gone, which says to me that others have had the inside rail. Hand picked is more than possible.
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There are some ridiculous accusations flying about
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Depends on the size of the room?
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I genuinely hope for some honesty and to toughen up and face up what will almost certainly be a tough crowd. Let's face it, the last few years everything we've been told has been a myriad of lies or mistruths.
I am hoping for open and honest debate and an indication of where they see the club in the coming seasons and just what in their belief has been the problem with the slide in everything commercially, technically and footballing-wise over the last few years as it's been stark.
If they acknowledge mistakes or where they went or are going wrong I think that will be a step forward. club Doncaster and car boots and i think tehy will be in for a tough night.
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There's obviously a massive conspiracy in place.
It's much more likely than a) the room they're holding it in only existing in three dimensions and subsequently a finite capacity and b) the demand for tickets being perhaps understandably being a lot higher than usual, so they've gone quicker.
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I genuinely hope for some honesty and to toughen up and face up what will almost certainly be a tough crowd. Let's face it, the last few years everything we've been told has been a myriad of lies or mistruths.
I am hoping for open and honest debate and an indication of where they see the club in the coming seasons and just what in their belief has been the problem with the slide in everything commercially, technically and footballing-wise over the last few years as it's been stark.
If they acknowledge mistakes or where they went or are going wrong I think that will be a step forward. club Doncaster and car boots and i think tehy will be in for a tough night.
Did you hear from the club Oggy?
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Did Hoden come back to you OC
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I tried this morning and was told all gone, which says to me that others have had the inside rail. Hand picked is more than possible.
As per my earlier post, I saw the announcement yesterday, went online and got a ticket.
At the time of getting my ticket it said there were about 120 remaining. I guess they were all snapped up fairly swiftly.
This will be the first such event I've been to since JR held one in the Dome but I wanted to make sure I didn't miss the opportunity to press for some answers.
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Picked my ticket up last night at 6-15. As said above I’m guessing demand for tickets was pretty high due to the current state of affairs.
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Booked mine on line about 4-30 last night there were 93 left then
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Oggy, I hope you’re taking your a copy of your post with you. You never know, you might get to read it out to the room!
I hope you get some positive feedback.
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Hope someone will be kind enough to give a update on the meeting for those unable to attend. Thanks
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BUMP.
Doors will open at 6pm with the event set to begin at 6.30pm.
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Unfortunately the questions they will already know what they have to answer. It would be better if they didn’t know the questions they were facing, more likely to get a proper answer instead of a straight bat one.
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Unfortunately the questions they will already know what they have to answer. It would be better if they didn’t know the questions they were facing, more likely to get a proper answer instead of a straight bat one.
Do they already know the questions? Either way, wouldn't it be a more efficient use of time them being able to provide an answer straight away than having to think of an answer just because some fans want to catch them out.
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How will they know the questions?
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Unfortunately the questions they will already know what they have to answer. It would be better if they didn’t know the questions they were facing, more likely to get a proper answer instead of a straight bat one.
Well that’s not quiet true, last one I went to was an open floor and anyone could ask anything, nothing was off the table, yes they have facts and figures to hand, exactly what you would expect from accomplished business men!
If you’re going tonight and you have a genuine question, if you’re given the opportunity you will be able to ask what ever you like!
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Can you collect your ticket at the event?
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Unfortunately the questions they will already know what they have to answer. It would be better if they didn’t know the questions they were facing, more likely to get a proper answer instead of a straight bat one.
You'd rather them make stuff up on the spot or say they don't know something off the top of their head rather than having the facts to hand? Who in fandom would that help apart from the social media gobshites?
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They certainly don’t know what questions will be asked, anybody can stand up and ask what they like, I’ve been to em all, quite entertaining sometimes.
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A few good questions would be have we got a long term plan in place, to try and get back up the leagues?
Are the board prepared to pay money for players if the right ones come available, breaking the sustainability push, or would they just go for another opportunity?
Are there any plans to clean up the whole stadium as it’s getting a bit tired and dirty?
Do they think our fans deserve to keep being fed dog meat for food, or are they prepared to go a different way from the contracted food?
What is the plan god forbid, when Terry wants to step away from the club, will his family continue with the support of the club or will they step away?
Would there be a way of building a club hotel that could bring in extra revenue?
Do they think the shadow board are fit for purpose ? ;) Only kidding. :whistle:
Do they have plans to scout the Irish leagues as a few teams seem to be doing this and getting good players on wages we could afford?
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There are some good players well within a hundred miles of Doncaster we can afford Sammy, we need to be proactive and get on to them.
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The latest Doncaster Rovers Meet The Owners event will take place at the Eco-Power Stadium on Monday, February 13.
If you are unable to attend the event, this is your chance to submit a question for the panel!
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Sorry never came out right was trying to copy and paste e mail from Bulbshare
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Will it not be live streamed?
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A few good questions would be have we got a long term plan in place, to try and get back up the leagues?
Are the board prepared to pay money for players if the right ones come available, breaking the sustainability push, or would they just go for another opportunity?
Are there any plans to clean up the whole stadium as it’s getting a bit tired and dirty?
Do they think our fans deserve to keep being fed dog meat for food, or are they prepared to go a different way from the contracted food?
What is the plan god forbid, when Terry wants to step away from the club, will his family continue with the support of the club or will they step away?
Would there be a way of building a club hotel that could bring in extra revenue?
Do they think the shadow board are fit for purpose ? ;) Only kidding. :whistle:
Do they have plans to scout the Irish leagues as a few teams seem to be doing this and getting good players on wages we could afford?
Cracking questions, exactly the one's that should be asked.
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Reesie lad I would think it will be recorded on film, and would most likely be broadcast after the event if there was no untoward bad language or behaviour, I think that will be the yardstick those attending will need to follow.
If nobody spoils the event by being silly and spoiling it for others there is no reason why everyone does not have a chance to say what they want and ask the questions they want to, and everyone see the response.
I don't think many clubs would give their supporters the same chance, we want to take advantage of it, and the only way that will happen is if the meeting is treated by those that attend in the right manner.
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A few good questions would be have we got a long term plan in place, to try and get back up the leagues?
Are the board prepared to pay money for players if the right ones come available, breaking the sustainability push, or would they just go for another opportunity?
Are there any plans to clean up the whole stadium as it’s getting a bit tired and dirty?
Do they think our fans deserve to keep being fed dog meat for food, or are they prepared to go a different way from the contracted food?
What is the plan god forbid, when Terry wants to step away from the club, will his family continue with the support of the club or will they step away?
Would there be a way of building a club hotel that could bring in extra revenue?
Do they think the shadow board are fit for purpose ? ;) Only kidding. :whistle:
Do they have plans to scout the Irish leagues as a few teams seem to be doing this and getting good players on wages we could afford?
Cracking questions, exactly the one's that should be asked.
Every single question has been answered on here a dozen times.
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https://twitter.com/theNETTOFC/status/1625061147719217152?t=a3UGI-58lpx3IZnoiC8aPw&s=19
I'm excited for the moment when they ask their Q1, why someone who works in Comms has been given a job working as Head of Academy Comms, and why wasn't Copps (Head of Football, not Head of Non-Football) included in the decision making.
4 questions in that list I am interested in though. Some others would be a waste of limited timing.
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Would agree there's some wasted questions there and I don't understand the relevance of Q1. Seems to be a couple of loaded questions trying to dig some dirt suggesting there's been some impropriety.
They're skirting round the issue that they believe the club is always looking for the cheap option, so why not just say it and quote the examples? One question.
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I think Q1 looks like a misunderstanding between Head of Academy and Head of Academy Operations.
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A few good questions would be have we got a long term plan in place, to try and get back up the leagues?
Are the board prepared to pay money for players if the right ones come available, breaking the sustainability push, or would they just go for another opportunity?
Are there any plans to clean up the whole stadium as it’s getting a bit tired and dirty?
Do they think our fans deserve to keep being fed dog meat for food, or are they prepared to go a different way from the contracted food?
What is the plan god forbid, when Terry wants to step away from the club, will his family continue with the support of the club or will they step away?
Would there be a way of building a club hotel that could bring in extra revenue?
Do they think the shadow board are fit for purpose ? ;) Only kidding. :whistle:
Do they have plans to scout the Irish leagues as a few teams seem to be doing this and getting good players on wages we could afford?
Cracking questions, exactly the one's that should be asked.
Every single question has been answered on here a dozen times.
Have they? all of them? then I must have missed the answers, along with the OP, so just to reiterate, exactly the questions that should be asked, in my opinion.
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Is there any chance tonights Q&A could be filmed and put on youtube?
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DFP and the club normally do a live blog and then a YouTube video normally follows.
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There you go...
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/live-updates-as-doncaster-rovers-fans-put-questions-to-the-clubs-owners-4025539
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Just been to the club this afternoon as my junior club are linked to the Foundation as a legacy club. I know a lot question the club Doncaster model but what a marvellous asset it is, a great giver of opportunity to the youth of the Borough. Really opened my eyes and made me proud to be a supporter of the club.
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A few good questions would be have we got a long term plan in place, to try and get back up the leagues?
Are the board prepared to pay money for players if the right ones come available, breaking the sustainability push, or would they just go for another opportunity?
Are there any plans to clean up the whole stadium as it’s getting a bit tired and dirty?
Do they think our fans deserve to keep being fed dog meat for food, or are they prepared to go a different way from the contracted food?
What is the plan god forbid, when Terry wants to step away from the club, will his family continue with the support of the club or will they step away?
Would there be a way of building a club hotel that could bring in extra revenue?
Do they think the shadow board are fit for purpose ? ;) Only kidding. :whistle:
Do they have plans to scout the Irish leagues as a few teams seem to be doing this and getting good players on wages we could afford?
Cracking questions, exactly the one's that should be asked.
Every single question has been answered on here a dozen times.
Have they? all of them? then I must have missed the answers, along with the OP, so just to reiterate, exactly the questions that should be asked, in my opinion.
Yep, lots of times.
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Just been to the club this afternoon as my junior club are linked to the Foundation as a legacy club. I know a lot question the club Doncaster model but what a marvellous asset it is, a great giver of opportunity to the youth of the Borough. Really opened my eyes and made me proud to be a supporter of the club.
It’s a massive positive for the club, and one we should be really appreciative of.
But unfortunately it doesn’t suit a lot of agendas therefore it’s given a negative slant when it shouldn’t.
The work those guys get through is incredible.
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JC kicks the evening off!!
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Just been to the club this afternoon as my junior club are linked to the Foundation as a legacy club. I know a lot question the club Doncaster model but what a marvellous asset it is, a great giver of opportunity to the youth of the Borough. Really opened my eyes and made me proud to be a supporter of the club.
It’s a massive positive for the club, and one we should be really appreciative of.
But unfortunately it doesn’t suit a lot of agendas therefore it’s given a negative slant when it shouldn’t.
The work those guys get through is incredible.
I go every week with fit Rovers , I was on early course and its on 25 now. Unrecognisable from the start and changed 100s of lives for the better.
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So, how did it go?
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So, how did it go?
Finishes at 8pm
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/live-updates-as-doncaster-rovers-fans-put-questions-to-the-clubs-owners-4025539
Been fairly beige so far.
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Perhaps they should have had a fireworks display?
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I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
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Perhaps they should have had a fireworks display?
Really weird comment.
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Did the sack the board lot attend and get any questions in?
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Perhaps they should have had a fireworks display?
Really weird comment.
Yep. Crackers.
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.
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Did the sack the board lot attend and get any questions in?
Of course not
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
On the issue of TBs contribution, I may be wrong but I think the £20m plus figure came from Kieran Maguire when he referred to the 'owners' contribution overall so that could be the combination of JR, DW and TB since 2006 which of course as time has passed TB has become the major contributor, so that might explain it.
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Major takeaways for me
Copps has worked really hard to put the structure in place behind the scenes
Never been refused anything he has asked for
Yeah we have to work within the resources
League one easier to be sustainable than League two
Contract finalisation starts on Wednesday players are wanting to stay whereby earlier in the season they maybe wouldn’t have wanted to
Ideal world we have 18/19 players on contract ready for next season
Didn’t think it really fair some of the loaded questions Gavin asked Copps
Get the feeling TB is getting ready to walk away
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Resources or Lack of:
Copps:
Club focuses on player development as they don’t have money to challenge for ready-made talent.
In terms of loan players, sometimes resources dictate what we can and can’t do.
‘I understand your concerns - I have the same concerns - but it’s about making do with what we’ve got available.’
‘We might not be able to handpick the best of the best but we believe we can get people to be a part of the club and fall in love with this club.’
League Two - it’s very, very tight on what we can recruit.
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That could be said for any team in the land Alan
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Don’t shoot the messenger!
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.
TB and DW contributed £25m between them.
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I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.
Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?
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Resources or Lack of:
Copps:
Club focuses on player development as they don’t have money to challenge for ready-made talent.
In terms of loan players, sometimes resources dictate what we can and can’t do.
‘I understand your concerns - I have the same concerns - but it’s about making do with what we’ve got available.’
‘We might not be able to handpick the best of the best but we believe we can get people to be a part of the club and fall in love with this club.’
League Two - it’s very, very tight on what we can recruit.
Think we can draw our own conclusions to this.
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It's difficult to get a real sense of what was said unless you were there. Interpreting the snippets from the DFP doesn't always tell the whole story and I'll reserve full judgement when I watch it back on YouTube.
Certainly sounds that Copps and DS prepared well and gave a good insight into the footballing side.
I get a sense that GB, Copps and DS are demonstrating they are doing more than their bit with the resources we have. Perhaps the questions GB put to Copps were expected and intentional?
Again, I may be reading more into this than necessary.
The next test as discussed is the contract renewals.
I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)
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I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.
Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?
I did open that post with "I could be wrong" Martin.
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Copps loves this club, him and Danny came across really well tonight. With the staff they have and the backing of the board I think we are on the up, will take time though as lots of changes have been made. Didn’t know we had 10 scouts all over the UK.
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I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.
Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?
I did open that post with "I could be wrong" Martin.
So you did, sorry.
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I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!
I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.
It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
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I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!
I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.
It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
it’s a good idea and if we play like we did against Swindon they might come back, play like we have in many games and you won’t see them ever again
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I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!
I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.
It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!
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It must hurt the owner, when people after all these years ,give the impression they don’t trust him, as though all this time he’s really wanted the stadium and grounds, as in the protection order on it.
I’ve never doubted that he is a good man, doing what he sees is best for the club. Where I deviate is that ,here and there the team just needs one or two real class players, to take the team onto the next level.
It must be a big upkeep to maintain a place the size of the stadium, but toilets must be at least clean.
They are right the town, city whatever we see ourselves as, hasn’t really backed up the effort he or John Ryan or others have put in, in a consistent manner.
Our fan base has always been very fickle. We have a hardcore of support as good as any in the land, but our floating supporters as soon as things aren’t going well, off they trot.
I realise some can’t go due to financial, health or whatever reasons.
We need a regular crowd of around ten thousand I would say to allow us to compete properly in leagues one or two.
A lot of questions answered there last night. It’s good that they do these nights. It stops supporters guessing what is going off.
We know reasons why things are done in a certain way.
It was also helpful that we had won the last two games, as the atmosphere was always going to be better after that. Seemed to be a successful night to me.
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I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!
I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.
It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!
If we put fans in charge we'd be changing manager every other month.
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I can get them been on the defensive. I mean it’s not been great and they’ll know a lot of fans blame them, rightly or wrongly.
Calling us to get more fans in isn’t that unusual. John Ryan regularly made that plea. As has been said you’d fear bringing a friend this and last season.
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Wouldn't it be novel if the fortunes of football clubs depended on fans coming through the turnstiles?
What if our operational costs were covered by Club Doncaster income so every penny contributed by fans from ticket sales, shirt sales etc plus EFL loyalty and prize money went directly into the playing budget?
With the billions being lavished on elite player wages and transfer fees with the huge rewards in the EPL, football has lost sight of this simple formula and breaks the direct link between fans and it's players.
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I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)
I did send an email via the Doncaster Rovers email link to ask questions about Bouncing Back Decisively
“Question for Mr Blunt
You said at the beginning of this season we would Bounce Back Decisively after being relegated.
Could you explain what evidence you had at that time to make that statement and do you still believe it is achievable this season.”
But it appears it wasn’t asked
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I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)
I did send an email via the Doncaster Rovers email link to ask questions about Bouncing Back Decisively
“Question for Mr Blunt
You said at the beginning of this season we would Bounce Back Decisively after being relegated.
Could you explain what evidence you had at that time to make that statement and do you still believe it is achievable this season.”
But it appears it wasn’t asked
Maybe we could arrange for the unasked questions to be answered?
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I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!
I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.
It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!
Imagine putting folk like you in charge.
Scares me to death
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A bit more meat on the bones from DFP.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/what-doncaster-rovers-owners-said-about-funding-ambition-and-their-future-4025867
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.
TB and DW contributed £25m between them.
That was while DW was alive that is not now. It was shared equally then so why did TB say we are a league 2 club while linking it to £25m. Since sustainability and TB not putting money into budget we have gone from league 1 to league 2.
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Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.
You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.
Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.
Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?
The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.
TB and DW contributed £25m between them.
That was while DW was alive that is not now. It was shared equally then so why did TB say we are a league 2 club while linking it to £25m. Since sustainability and TB not putting money into budget we have gone from league 1 to league 2.
Relegation was down to crap management, a bad batch of recruited players and poor play.
In another season, with a steady manager and some consistency, rovers would not have been relegated.
But that’s football for you.
People forget that the squad rovers had for their promotion to the championship were not a hatful of household names commanding huge wages. They were a unit of players who played together consistently as a squad with a good manager. With a solid central spine from front to back. Rob Jones, was worth 2 centre halves on his own. And he added to the goal tally too. Rovers have strayed widely from this setup. But I believe they are on their way back to achieving consistency and a better standard of playing.
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
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Or perhaps the DFP has got it's sums wrong leading to you in turn not getting your sums right.
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I'll be interested to hear the whole thing if it gets released. Couldn't make it last night but judging by the way it's been written up though, some of the answers to questions from DB and TB don't half sound defensive, and almost like they object to being scrutinised on the way things are being run. Maybe I'm wrong.
Putting £X millions into the club obviously ought to buy you some gratefulness, and I think most supporters genuinely are grateful to TB and the late DW for that. But I don't think it makes you immune to scrutiny and it almost seemed to come across like TB and DB had been lumbered with this thing they didn't really want and that we should be thankful for their every move because nobody else is stupid enough to take it on.
I would put out there that the supporters have no say in choosing the club's owners either, and the reason why people express their frustrations is that running a football club isn't like running any other business is that the fans are a massively important stakeholder, but one that only has the power to express their thoughts and feelings, and can't (for most of us anyway) actually be involved in the club.
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I would expect you say that Glynn it was Martin who said £25m before that it was £20m. So if there was more transparency in the accounts we could see what are the true figures.
What is true in two MTO meetings TB as said he’s not Bramellovich and not Radcliffe another big exaggeration to make his point like posters on here say clubs are going to the wall yet they are still here and signing better players
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Replying to NN. The team that were promoted under Rob Jones were paid £7m in wages the last full accounts that were available shows that.
The manager that got us relegated was hired by Mr Brunt and Mr Bramall so they must take responsibility for our demise and also the reduction in people coming through the turnstiles.
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
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Or perhaps the DFP has got it's sums wrong leading to you in turn not getting your sums right.
Are you suggesting that SM is giving us wrong information then? :facepalm:
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Replying to NN. The team that were promoted under Rob Jones were paid £7m in wages the last full accounts that were available shows that.
The manager that got us relegated was hired by Mr Brunt and Mr Bramall so they must take responsibility for our demise and also the reduction in people coming through the turnstiles.
I think you're wrong on the £7m figure.
But lets keep pointing fingers and attributing blame though.
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Martin looking at the full accounts ending 2012/2013 the wages shows the £7m figure that the season we were promoted back to the Championship from league 1.
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
No conspiracy but in last nights meeting TB linked £25m with a league 2 club which is wrong as the Watson family have not been contributing in the period of league 1 relegation or league 2 present time.
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Martin looking at the full accounts ending 2012/2013 the wages shows the £7m figure that the season we were promoted back to the Championship from league 1.
This is absolutely correct. For the season 2012/13 total staff costs (playing and non playing, wages, taxes and pension contributions) amounted to £7.05m.
Worth also balancing that for this season, we made a huge pre-tax loss of £4.38m. Which means very broadly speaking and in simplistic terms that our actual ‘sustainable’ wage bill was around £2.75m that season and our owners basically paid the rest themselves in order to get us promoted.
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Martin looking at the full accounts ending 2012/2013 the wages shows the £7m figure that the season we were promoted back to the Championship from league 1.
I'll take your word for it, I always assumed that was the season before.
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
No conspiracy but in last nights meeting TB linked £25m with a league 2 club which is wrong as the Watson family have not been contributing in the period of league 1 relegation or league 2 present time.
I'm struggling here, what is the actual point you're making?
Surely, we're a LG2 club that has had millions invested in it in recent years. Isn't that the point he made?
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
No conspiracy but in last nights meeting TB linked £25m with a league 2 club which is wrong as the Watson family have not been contributing in the period of league 1 relegation or league 2 present time.
I'm struggling here, what is the actual point you're making?
Surely, we're a LG2 club that has had millions invested in it in recent years. Isn't that the point he made?
Rightly or wrongly I think people see us as a Championship or promotion chasing league one club with a couple of million invested. And as of the latter a relegated league one club and now a league two club with no additional investment. Until recently the noises from the club weren't the latter. It is what it is and we can't control it; I think people feel hurt over the early soundbites from the board not the reality of self sustainability.
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Yes TB said he’d put £12.6m into the club a total of £25m with DW and family and we are a league 2. But the money he’s put in was spread over a period of at least 14 years in the Championship, League 1 and League 2. So the point I was making the £25m was not just as a league 2 club.
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Yes TB said he’d put £12.6m into the club a total of £25m with DW and family and we are a league 2. But the money he’s put in was spread over a period of at least 14 years in the Championship, League 1 and League 2. So the point I was making the £25m was not just as a league 2 club.
Right, but that's not the point he made. My understanding was that despite the money they've invested we're still a LG2 club. He then said that maybe we should have made better use of the money.
You also have to contrast that with the other part of the discussion which was about how much money LG2 clubs will be losing this season.
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
I know the Watson family wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club but how does that equate to the Watson family and TB both contributing almost equal amounts when the family stood back some years ago.
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So I couldn't make the meeting this am relying on the bits I've seen written.
Was the feeling one of the owners wanting to just carry on as we are or is there an acceptance that things haven't been going well?
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So reading the report on the DFP website TB has put in £12.6m and the late DW £12.4m.
SM has said that they have put in £25m so........DW passed away 5 years ago, does that mean that TB has only put in £200k in the last 5 years? Either my sums are wrong or we are not being told the whole truth.
No, you and Steve are getting it wrong by assuming it was DW and only DW. The fact is the Watson family continued to contribute until very recently. When they stepped back they wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club.
Some conspiracy hey!
I know the Watson family wrote off all the funds they had invested in the club but how does that equate to the Watson family and TB both contributing almost equal amounts when the family stood back some years ago.
They decided to take a step back in July 2020, but honoured their commitments beyond that. So, lets say 18 months? Not so long really.
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So I couldn't make the meeting this am relying on the bits I've seen written.
Was the feeling one of the owners wanting to just carry on as we are or is there an acceptance that things haven't been going well?
They are definitely happy to carry on as we are. Nothing was spoken about regarding extra investment from either themselves or looking for help elsewhere.
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It sounds very much like they are happy with the work they've done and now hope to stumble upon a magic formula of winning football matches and developing players to boost the playing budget. Odds on that ending in promotion to and then from League 1 are gonna be fairly slim I'd say.
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Apparently, according to Mr Blunt, if we increase the crowd by 50%, we would be sustainable.
No acknowledgement that they’re driving supporters away with this frugal approach.
Gavin made it perfectly clear that we need to be out of league 2, meaning back in league 1. However, with the quality/standard of player dropping, due to affordability, how do they think we’re going to get out this league without more investment?
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Martin looking at the full accounts ending 2012/2013 the wages shows the £7m figure that the season we were promoted back to the Championship from league 1.
This is absolutely correct. For the season 2012/13 total staff costs (playing and non playing, wages, taxes and pension contributions) amounted to £7.05m.
Worth also balancing that for this season, we made a huge pre-tax loss of £4.38m. Which means very broadly speaking and in simplistic terms that our actual ‘sustainable’ wage bill was around £2.75m that season and our owners basically paid the rest themselves in order to get us promoted.
ALL wages playing and non playing so not just the team then
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Apparently, according to Mr Blunt, if we increase the crowd by 50%, we would be sustainable.
No acknowledgement that they’re driving supporters away with this frugal approach.
Gavin made it perfectly clear that we need to be out of league 2, meaning back in league 1. However, with the quality/standard of player dropping, due to affordability, how do they think we’re going to get out this league without more investment?
Yes, I too noted that remark. Seems to contradict the claim that the club has already achieved sustainability.
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SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
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SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
Why does not going to a hastily arranged event on a Monday night preclude you from being involved in the discussion or asking questions?
Not everybody is able to do these things on a whim - some people have jobs, families to look after, and some live considerable distances from Doncaster. I didn't go last night because it would've meant a 100+ mile round trip to the ground - a trip which I am going to be making tonight for the match, and doing it twice in as many days I couldn't justify.
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SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
Get off your soapbox. Was everyone present last night guaranteed to get their questions answered?
Not everyone can drop everything to attend a meeting arranged at short notice.
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Apparently, according to Mr Blunt, if we increase the crowd by 50%, we would be sustainable.
No acknowledgement that they’re driving supporters away with this frugal approach.
Gavin made it perfectly clear that we need to be out of league 2, meaning back in league 1. However, with the quality/standard of player dropping, due to affordability, how do they think we’re going to get out this league without more investment?
I wonder if he meant the football side would be self sustainable. As opposed to the wider club Doncaster.
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SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
Why does not going to a hastily arranged event on a Monday night preclude you from being involved in the discussion or asking questions?
Not everybody is able to do these things on a whim - some people have jobs, families to look after, and some live considerable distances from Doncaster. I didn't go last night because it would've meant a 100+ mile round trip to the ground - a trip which I am going to be making tonight for the match, and doing it twice in as many days I couldn't justify.
It was sold out fairly quickly too, so people who would want to go didn't get the chance.
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.
Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.
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Apparently, according to Mr Blunt, if we increase the crowd by 50%, we would be sustainable.
No acknowledgement that they’re driving supporters away with this frugal approach.
Gavin made it perfectly clear that we need to be out of league 2, meaning back in league 1. However, with the quality/standard of player dropping, due to affordability, how do they think we’re going to get out this league without more investment?
The presentation had Brown as a much better player than the one he replaced
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.
Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.
You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer. But I bet you won't.
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.
Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.
You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer. But I bet you won't.
If thats all you have to do to find out whats happening at the club or ask a question whats the point of a MTO? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?
I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.
I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.
Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”
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SM why get involved with the toing and frowing with people with questions for the owners who couldn't even be bothered to turn up to a meeting that they could have asked their questions at freely, and got their answers, and now want to take issue with someone who has put at least £12.5 million into the club on how much and how he spends his money.
They want to think themselves lucky the owners gave the answers they did, the way they did, a lot would have been a lot blunter with their replies.
I sometimes wonder why I get involved as well!! You'd think after 24 years of giving up all my spare time to fight for a better deal for football supporters I should take my retirement seriously and step back.
I thought it was strange though last night, the event sold out within 24 hours indicating a strong feeling towards setting questions and finding out what was going on, yet there were very few people who put their hands up when they had the chance. I would think everybody who wanted to ask a question got the chance, if they didn't it would have only been one or two who missed out. There were a few around me who kept muttering under their breath but didn't have the gumption to stick their hand up.
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A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?
I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.
I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.
Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”
I think there were a few reasons for doing it the way it was done. Under normal circumstances the manager gets more questions than the owners so it was a deliberate choice to allocate them some time at the beginning. I also think it was designed to show everybody that despite their inexperience they know exactly what they're doing and were happy to go into detail.
I think it worked on both levels.
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May be an answer to all those that couldn’t attend for various reasons, to far, not enough tickets etc would be to livestream it on say YouTube or Twitter. Questions could be texted as the programme proceeded?
COYR
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.
Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.
You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer. But I bet you won't.
Missing the point completely there aren't you? The discussion was around people expressing their views on here who "couldn't be bothered" go to MTO. I'm highlighting that it's a stupid comment to suggest that only the 150 people that went can comment on the club and how it's being run. If that's the case, then let's make this the "150 people who attended the MTO" forum and shut down everyone else's account.
As for your last bit, you haven't got a clue who I am so I've no idea what that's all about, but if you think that Mr Bramall is sat there monitoring the Club Doncaster inbox waiting to provide answers to any supporter who emails in about the direction of the club, good luck to you.
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A night with Copps and his team would be great if it could be arranged?
I think I enjoyed Copps presentation more than the questions. Copps (DS a little) covered a fair bit on what our aim is. The plan looks great but, if it all comes together we’ll have to wait and see. The example of comparing Brown/Knoyle was interesting, with Knoyle seeming only better than Brown with dribbling and attacking.
I don’t know what the guy slating the attack, midfield, defence and keeper was aiming to achieve from DS either. His response of “was that even a question” was correct and he did the right thing of ignoring it.
Copps seems really proud, busy, direct and could potentially be the next John Ryan figure, giving us a target and pushing everyone towards it “#ForwardAsOne”
I think there were a few reasons for doing it the way it was done. Under normal circumstances the manager gets more questions than the owners so it was a deliberate choice to allocate them some time at the beginning. I also think it was designed to show everybody that despite their inexperience they know exactly what they're doing and were happy to go into detail.
I think it worked on both levels.
It worked really well, answered a lot of questions before they were needed to be asked…. but then some still asked :facepalm:
I never went to ask questions, I just went to see what the future holds/what they had to say.
Overall, I think we’re in good hands, the owners realise it’s not been great as they’re fans too. Just like other clubs we’ll have our ups and downs, it’s just the fact we’ve been spoilt for a while now and the next generation have never known us lose, as goes to show with the 12 year old not going because of how we’ve been playing.
It’s sounds promising but hopefully we’ll be on the up again soon
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Folk who couldn't attend and/or may have submitted questions that didn't get put forward are only curious. Sometimes, with the information that comes out, it leads to other questions.
What's important really is how we move forward from here. What's gone, is gone.
The questions are whether we're satisfied we have sufficient resources in finance and people to be competitive and challenge for promotion?
Do we have faith in Copps and DS to continue the work to give us that chance of winning more football matches, improving attendances etc.?
If promotion doesn't happen, can we still rely on Copps and DS to go again? Do we fear they will walk if other opportunities come along?
Are we satisfied Copps and DS can attract sufficient calibre of players including young talent and keep them here long enough to mount promotion challenges?
At some point we have to put politics aside and decide if we're happy to continue supporting what we're seeing on the pitch. Surely that's the basic thing that drives us all?
The transfer windows are done, the meet the owners is done. Between now and the end of the season, all we have is DS and the players and they have us. From what I'm seeing and hearing, DS and the players are working hard enough and improving enough to keep me interested to buy a Season membership for next season.
Let's get behind the boys and get up and out of this league.
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Everyone has their own idea of where the club should be longer-term. For me I am happy for the current owners to remain, so we are in charge of our own destiny with responsible people committed to the city as stewards of the club. With that goes a realistic perspective on what we can achieve - we are not going to be a sustainable Championship club. It’s just not going to happen.
We can though if we get our act together, be a very good and well run upper League One side that has the odd jaunt into the Championship now and again, like the Dingles and Rotherham. But for even this to happen we need to be doing far better on recruitment and talent development. We can probably add a bit more income by getting the crowds up but we all know the Doncaster public typically won’t turn out for Rovers.
It’s about maximising our resources and doing far better with our football operations - which the structure that Copps sits within should now be doing. This should include monetising talent better as well, to keep the whole show operating at a better level consistently.
We’ve made a real mess of the last few years for non-financial reasons, so if we can rectify these there is no reason we can’t be back up competing in League One before too long.
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Or perhaps the DFP has got it's sums wrong leading to you in turn not getting your sums right.
Are you suggesting that SM is giving us wrong information then? :facepalm:
Quite the opposite. :facepalm: :headbang:
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Some people can see it, some can’t. Some ask relevant questions some just want to upset people.
I am more than happy with the owners, happy with SM passing on relevant info, happy Selby takes the time with his previews to every game.
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So if the answer is if you can't attend for whatever reason financially or make the time to attend you get on your soap box and keep banging away at what the owners do with their money on here, yes ok.
So people can't ask questions or pass comment on the way the club is run if they didn't ask their question at a very limited event arranged with less than a week's notice, at which there was no guarantee of getting your question answered anyway due to time constraints? Right-o.
Note to self - live in Doncaster, make sure to have no commitments on weekday evenings, and somehow guarantee to get your question heard in a room of 150 people all wanting to ask questions, at all costs, before commenting any further on the club. Should all be straightforward to arrange.
You could always write to or email the club and ask your question, I'm sure you'll get an answer. But I bet you won't.
I did email the club by the link for the meeting the question I asked to MrBrunt about Bounce Back Decisively was not asked maybe I’ll get a written answer which I will share.
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I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.
I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair. As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.
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Some people can see it, some can’t. Some ask relevant questions some just want to upset people.
I am more than happy with the owners, happy with SM passing on relevant info, happy Selby takes the time with his previews to every game.
Agreed with this.
I'd like the club's youth policy/reserve team transition to be more effective and give opportunity to first team players to recover from injuries or loss of form and for younger players to play "men's football" even if it means establishing consistent links with lower tier clubs too. But I don't own the club; so I guess I gotta shut up.
I would love to see the fans be more respectful of eachother despite not agreeing. Not everyone on social media is a d**khead and not every VSC member is a kiss arse. We are ALL ROVERS FANS though from Australia to Adwick from Carcrfot to Canada let's now continue to help grow the support for the club locally (and yes even as an exile I do my bit).
Danny and the boys need our backing so let's support the team and have some respect for our fellow supporters in the meantime (and that includes everyone).
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I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.
I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair. As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.
Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.
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Just for everybody's benefit, the club will be attempting to answer all the questions that were posed by email and social media.
Hopefully in about a week or so the content from last night will be available on line, and an article to cover the bits that were not covered will accompany that.
As soon as its up and running I'll post a link to it.
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Just for everybody's benefit, the club will be attempting to answer all the questions that were posed by email and social media.
Hopefully in about a week or so the content from last night will be available on line, and an article to cover the bits that were not covered will accompany that.
As soon as its up and running I'll post a link to it.
That's great, where can we see the answers that were posed by social media?
Whilst it was a big turnout last night and the tickets got snapped up fast, it could be the case that some people don't feel comfortable speaking infront of 200 people to ask questions.
Also given the very short time given to the questions section of the meeting, I feel not even a quarter of potential questions were even asked.
Would it be a good idea if the club invited questions every few months by way of email or social media? And pist the answers publicly so everyone can read them.
As a kind of mini q and a event with the owners?
I feel more regularly engaging with the fans like this could help alleviate some of the negativity sweeping the fan base, where fans by human nature make up their own answers to their own questions ?
Just a thought .
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From the DRFCOS
The annual Meet The Owners event proved to be a successful evening in front of a capacity crowd of Rovers supporters.
More than 200 fans were in attendance in the Jibba Jabba restaurant at the Eco-Power Stadium, with head of football operations James Coppinger opening the night with a presentation on the changes made to, and direction of, senior football at the club.
In the hour that followed, Coppinger, along with head coach Danny Schofield, chairman David Blunt, director Terry Bramall and chief executive Gavin Baldwin, took questions from the audience on all manner of on and off-field topics.
Full coverage of the event will be published the week commencing February 20, including a complete video of the Q&A portion of the evening along with a written transcript.
We will also be providing answers to questions submitted by those unable to attend, which were not asked or covered on the night.
*** FULL PROPS TO THE CLUB ON THIS! we really are special club!
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I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.
I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair. As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.
Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.
Notice issued on Monday 7th 3pm
Tickets gone by wWeds morning was said to be 120 tickets yet it says in the DRFC report 200.
So no there wasn’t plenty of notice. Unless you knew before it was out in the public domain
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I do think there would be good value in answering some of the questions those of us who couldn't attend posed.
I think criticising those who can't just drop things and attend is very unfair. As has been said it's not easy to drop and arrange things at short notice especially with a game tonight and I'd always arrange the babysitter for matchday anyway.
Let's be real though, even when they do give plenty of notice, the keyboard warriors always seem to have a prior engagement.
Notice issued on Monday 7th 3pm
Tickets gone by wWeds morning was said to be 120 tickets yet it says in the DRFC report 200.
So no there wasn’t plenty of notice. Unless you knew before it was out in the public domain
In your quest to criticise you totally missed the point in the post
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
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I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.
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I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.
I'm tempted to run a sweepstake on when the next accusation of the club not communicating will surface. ;)
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I do believe there is a certain percentage of the 'fan base' who will never be satisfied with the response to any question unless the answer is 'spend money like Real Madrid'.
There it is again another exaggeration to make the point just taking after the owner TB last night.
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.
You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.
You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.
The only moaners there was in fact the owners.
Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.
Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.
Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.
You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.
The only moaners there was in fact the owners.
Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.
Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.
Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??
Are you saying they had advanced knowledge of the questions that were asked?
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I don’t think anyone would have been surprised by many of the questions that were asked so in reality some of the responses would have been prepared in advance.
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.
You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.
The only moaners there was in fact the owners.
Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.
Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.
Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??
We just won three games on the spin with three consecutive clean sheets - are you going to praise the owners/board for that success?
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Filo no I didn’t not commenting on the keyboard warrior statement but criticism of people was started by Janso.
People were talking about lack of notice. I made the point that moaners don't turn up even with plenty of notice.
You then went on about lack fo notice. Ergo, you missed my point.
The only moaners there was in fact the owners.
Nothing new came from it, most of the night was took up put coaching staff and then most questions were rehearsed.
Nobody has ever questioned the money Terry an Co has put in, but the lack of ot when falling out of league one.
Would you class yourself as a happy clapper or captain happy clapper ??
We just won three games on the spin with three consecutive clean sheets - are you going to praise the owners/board for that success?
Did they play in defence ?
Only missed the Swindon game since xmas, so don't travel the country wishing for us to lose.
Had more downs than ups, but unless we win promotion this year we will struggle next as we will lose the better players to the clubs with ambition.
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Was one of the questions trying to have a dig at Copps and alluding to him not being present often. Still scratching my head days later about that one
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Was one of the questions trying to have a dig at Copps and alluding to him not being present often. Still scratching my head days later about that one
Someone on Twitter claimed the other day that he only works 2 days a week. The Netto lot latched on and ran with it. I think they're still waiting for the new owners to be announced as apparently every rumour they've spread has been correct.
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Who really cares what days/hours Coppinger works?… :suicide:
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Who really cares what days/hours Coppinger works?… :suicide:
Correct has given everything to this club
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Yeah I was gobsmacked I think it hurt Copps that question. Just reinforced my feelings for the netto to$$er$
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A bit delayed but I note the Meet The Owners Video is now up.
https://youtu.be/miUBvNQn7aU