Four directors resign.

[jonnydog]

This forum used to be ok......

What you moaning idiots don't seem grasp (so I doubt any of you have been Rovers fans for over 5 years?) is that this is the best squad, ground, and WAS the best board, this club has ever had. AND we're playing in the highest league we've ever been in! I honestly, honestly feel appalled and disgusted sometimes at the moronic, and sometimes willfully manipulative comments on here about the club/board. You all know who you are and I hope you're all happy.

I totally agree with that sentiment!

Also, For it to make JR think about leaving his job, could it not be construed as a form of Cyber-Bullying towards JR/the board?

... Technically that must surely breach the VSC terms & Conditions!!

   

[Filo]

This forum used to be ok......

What you moaning idiots don't seem grasp (so I doubt any of you have been Rovers fans for over 5 years?) is that this is the best squad, ground, and WAS the best board, this club has ever had. AND we're playing in the highest league we've ever been in! I honestly, honestly feel appalled and disgusted sometimes at the moronic, and sometimes willfully manipulative comments on here about the club/board. You all know who you are and I hope you're all happy.

It makes me disgusted to be a Rovers fan  I hope you are all happy - from Madmick offering his \"business advice\" and constantly going on and on about how bad things are (you're like a dripping tap madmick50) to the posse of hangers on and downbeats, to the old fashioned style moaners who used to grace belle vue mainstand.

None of you have helped the club in any way at all apart from paying to moan. I wonder what your home lives are like...mind you, most of you are still living at home I guess?

ANd the most ironic thing is this would probably never happened if this forum hadn't been put into use and then the idiots allowed to get away with commenting like they have!! The vsc may well have sunk drfc. All this \"fan power\" and \"let's buy shares to blah blah blah\" and \"two boxes schmoozing area so your guests can abuse people who are helping the club\" is quite honestly rubbish. Where are your shares getting you now eh? No-where is where.

And where is the hallowed \"vsc - JR/board\" relationship? Where was the input from the vsc to let the board know the true feeling of the majority of fans? Did it happen?

In case any of you forgot, none of the directors have to put a single penny in to the club ever. It's their money, not yours. They've done it out of good will.

ps How a group of 5/10 thicko's can disrupt a football club is beyond me.

I`m not sure what you`re saying here, are you blaming the VSC? 5/10 posters? or everyone in general, I don`t know what you expect the VSC to do if a board member walks away, should we kidnap him freeze his assets and re distribute them? I know you`re angry, but lashing out at everyone is hardly going to help is it?

[benaldo]

You could be right Filo. I am angry.

For me, this is a combination of events (not that have to be 100% right)-

The hardcore of lunatics/miscreants on here.

The vsc \"guest\" abusing Mckay (is he next to walk? What then?)

The pressure of the league position.

The fact that as directors you do little more than pay money and take abuse.


If you believe JR, which I do, the small minority on here have encouraged 4 rich people to walk away from the club. That's that. They know who they are and they won't ever be able to deny it. They aren't rovers fans they are people who revel in chaos and bad things happening. I hope they drift off out of puberty (no way on earth is madmick50 over the age of 20) and into anther interest in their lives. Their hangers on are just too stupid to know the truth.

Edit - And like I said, the shares the vsc own, and the two corporate boxes you have access to are worth nothing right now are they. All the access to JR in the world hasn't stopped this and hasn't stopped him saying he feels like leaving. So, what good is that relationship? Is it more harmful than beneficial?

[donnyroversfc]

Benaldo, your comments are very hypocritical!! I suppose it was perfectly acceptable to spout critiscm on here when it was aimed at SO'D, Hird, Friend etc.

[Filo]

You could be right Filo. I am angry.

For me, this is a combination of events (not that have to be 100% right)-

The hardcore of lunatics/miscreants on here.

The vsc \"guest\" abusing Mckay (is he next to walk? What then?)

The pressure of the league position.

The fact that as directors you do little more than pay money and take abuse.


If you believe JR, which I do, the small minority on here have encouraged 4 rich people to walk away from the club. That's that. They know who they are and they won't ever be able to deny it. They aren't rovers fans they are people who revel in chaos and bad things happening. I hope they drift off out of puberty (no way on earth is madmick50 over the age of 20) and into anther interest in their lives. Their hangers on are just too stupid to know the truth.

Edit - And like I said, the shares the vsc own, and the two corporate boxes you have access to are worth nothing right now are they. All the access to JR in the world hasn't stopped this and hasn't stopped him saying he feels like leaving. So, what good is that relationship? Is it more harmful than beneficial?

I`d say now, more than ever when JR is alone, the last man standing the VSC are there for him to lean on, a shoulder to cry on if you like. The VSC can`t match the financial support the previous directors gave but as they say, every little helps and purchasing 2 boxes rather than have them empty is better than nothing, the VSC can`t legislate for guests acting on a whim, the Mckay incident was unfortunate but how can the VSC predict the actions of one individual?

[benaldo]

Benaldo, your comments are very hypocritical!! I suppose it was perfectly acceptable to spout critiscm on here when it was aimed at SO'D, Hird, Friend etc.

Duh.......

Saying George Friend is rubbish at football, or that SOD was out of ideas, or Hird was a cretin (before his now well publicised rise to stardom) is going to do what exactly? Make 4 directors leave? Harm the club? Put JR into the position that he wants to leave? Offers my \"business advice\" to him? Moans about Willie Mckay? Bleats on and on and on about our directors being up to no good all the time?

Think about your own contribution donnyroversfc.....I think a quick look back will see you've got your fingers in the shitty pie......

[Wellred]

But that is one of the downsides to be young Benny. They are too easily led. Maybe when he gets a bit older and wiser he might begin to see the error of his ways.

[donnyroversfc]

Benaldo, your comments are very hypocritical!! I suppose it was perfectly acceptable to spout critiscm on here when it was aimed at SO'D, Hird, Friend etc.

Duh.......

Saying George Friend is rubbish at football, or that SOD was out of ideas, or Hird was a cretin (before his now well publicised rise to stardom) is going to do what exactly? Make 4 directors leave? Harm the club? Put JR into the position that he wants to leave? Offers my \"business advice\" to him? Moans about Willie Mckay? Bleats on and on and on about our directors being up to no good all the time?

Think about your own contribution donnyroversfc.....I think a quick look back will see you've got your fingers in the shitty pie......

Well it's hardly gunna help them is it! Certain players do read this forum so its hardly gunna help to see people like you slagging off their efforts to do the job they've been asked to!

Could argue that your comments alone about certain players had a destructive effect on the players and caused low morale which led to us being in the position we are in the league right now.

Although thats about as believable as a few critic comments on here causing 4 board members to resign.

[benaldo]

Benaldo, your comments are very hypocritical!! I suppose it was perfectly acceptable to spout critiscm on here when it was aimed at SO'D, Hird, Friend etc.

Duh.......

Saying George Friend is rubbish at football, or that SOD was out of ideas, or Hird was a cretin (before his now well publicised rise to stardom) is going to do what exactly? Make 4 directors leave? Harm the club? Put JR into the position that he wants to leave? Offers my \"business advice\" to him? Moans about Willie Mckay? Bleats on and on and on about our directors being up to no good all the time?

Think about your own contribution donnyroversfc.....I think a quick look back will see you've got your fingers in the shitty pie......

Well it's hardly gunna help them is it! Certain players do read this forum so its hardly gunna help to see people like you slagging off their efforts to do the job they've been asked to!

Could argue that your comments alone about certain players had a destructive effect on the players and caused low morale which led to us being in the position we are in the league right now.

Although thats about as believable as a few critic comments on here causing 4 board members to resign.

So what's it to be then? Comments on here are bad, or they aren't? I think you just argued yourself out of your own argument there kid.

You know what's been said and by whom. Don't point the finger at people like me who support the current regime, look a little closer to home for the people that have been sticking the knife in to the club for the past 6 months!

[donnyroversfc]

It's you that thinks criticising the club is so bad. Yet you took joy in telling us all how terrible Friend and Hird we're at their job (who as you know, are employees of the club).

Just because i dont support this current regime (what a great long term plan it seems to be!)Doesn't make me destructive. Contraversial decisions always cause people to have contraversial comments and a divide in opinion, the club should've expected that, not expect everyone to just lap it up and go along with it like everything is all rosey!

BTW, please don't tar me with the same brush as Madmick, he's clearly a WUM (him and his many alias's) He's making comments to get a reaction, which Dickos seems more than happy to give him. I'm just crap at putting my comments across in the way i mean it

[Adam]

You could be right Filo. I am angry.

For me, this is a combination of events (not that have to be 100% right)-

The hardcore of lunatics/miscreants on here.

The vsc \"guest\" abusing Mckay (is he next to walk? What then?)

The pressure of the league position.

The fact that as directors you do little more than pay money and take abuse.


If you believe JR, which I do, the small minority on here have encouraged 4 rich people to walk away from the club. That's that. They know who they are and they won't ever be able to deny it. They aren't rovers fans they are people who revel in chaos and bad things happening. I hope they drift off out of puberty (no way on earth is madmick50 over the age of 20) and into anther interest in their lives. Their hangers on are just too stupid to know the truth.

Edit - And like I said, the shares the vsc own, and the two corporate boxes you have access to are worth nothing right now are they. All the access to JR in the world hasn't stopped this and hasn't stopped him saying he feels like leaving. So, what good is that relationship? Is it more harmful than beneficial?

I'm pretty sure a couple of comments on an internet forum have forced 4 directors to leave a football club.

What.
A.
Tit.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Look at it like this.

OUt of all 4 of them only 1 of them ever put much money in (Dick). SO it's not really the catastrophe that we're all going on about.

Someone else will possibly be found to replace them.

And to voice my thoughts on the constant badly thought out, negative, mostly from children, comments that seem to be the order of the day on here, I just think you ought to think before you type. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinions, but when it's for the 1000th time and is about an issue that most people I know find positive, you begin to become a thorn in the clubs side.

And I find it laughable how some of you think you actually know what's going on and what isn't at the club!!  There are an awful lot of teenage boys on this forum. Stick to masturbating in your bedrooms instead of coming on here, it'll send yo ublind, but it'll cause less trouble.

Not the way I have understood it Ben. The three of them but an equal amount in (or they split the debt 3 ways). Then Bramall decided to stop, how, why, when there has been plenty of speculation, maybe he fell out with SOD, maybe he saw a better use for his money, maybe he got fed up of being attacked on here for what he saw as charitable work whilst some people were looking for another motive, maybe it was the spiralling cost put against the declining performance. This meant JR, DW had either to put in more money themselves or cut costs (that means player sales) - or do what they did, which was look at WM's third way - and look where that has got us.

I reckon that millionaires willing to invest in Doncaster Rovers are pretty thin on the ground. How much was it that they needed to find this season £4 million? Thats without BS new contract, SOD payout. Start buying a few more lottery tickets Ben.

Thats the way l see it and l don't see where the next multi-millionaire is coming from, isn't Patrick Cryne looking for someone to take over at Oakwell too, a club in the same area, bigger fan base and they will no debt at their club this year. Milan took over at SWFC mainly due to their potential and to make a fast buck and l'm sure that if someone wanted to take over at SUFC McCabe would gladly step aside, but these people are hard to come by, especially in the SY area.

This is a huge blow, Ryan's money alone will struggle to sustain a Championship club with £5 million debt and average attendance thats peaked and now dwindling down towards its normal numbers. Would League 1 be that bad? lose the revenue, agreed but a chance to sort out the wage bill and rebuild the side and get the debt in order.

The Monaco consortium rumour that's gone about was interesting.  Highly unlikely but one can't help but feel there may be more to Mckay etc than meets the eye.  I know JR denied the fact last night, however he didn't seem all that convincing on it IMO.  Fact is nobody takes over a football club to make money that's for sure.

Andy nobody but nobody puts a stash of money into football to make a fast buck hence all the clubs virtually queueing up at the Administrators door. They do it for any of the following 3 reasons.....the love of the club, the kudos or for financial reasons.
Our Chairman does it for the love of the club and has been repaid many times by those that respect what he has done for us. He has always been admired, rarely criticised (except of late) and that is highly unusual for a Chairman to receive such adulation from the supporters.
Unfortunately fora are designed for folk to openly discuss different ideas to move the club forward , sometimes in an encouraging way and on occasions in a critical way.......it comes with the territory.
If this forum is to be of any use at all or of any interest to the users for that matter , then all sides MUST be heard. It's not for the Chairman to browbeat the loyal fans who may or may not agree with the methodology or actions of the club. Neither is it the position of moderators and others to berate or attempt to bully those that disagree with the current situation or any of the events of late. This is not what the VSC TRUST was put in place for, a trust is there to safeguard and improve the lot of it's members and to question the Board if necessary. After all shareholders (of the VSC) and supporters have every right to express their opinions they are not only the customers but shareholders in effect.

To suppress alternative opinions is a ridiculous state of affairs, totally undemocratic and would eventually lead not only to the death of this forum but eventually would prejudice the good work of the VSC itself!

I would urge those that disagree with repeated threads either pro or con the current strategy to not post on that thread just for repeated arguments sake. There are many on here who could argue in an empty room ...........ensure the room stays that way please.

Steve, we don't want to supress opinion far from it, I've plenty of those as you know.  What frustrates me is not the stating of opinions and discussion, it's the constant agendas, bickering and repetition of the same things that frustrate me.  Yes by all means make a point, but don't make it become an agenda where it's almost as if these people want it to happen to be proven correct.  In the past we've all had opinions that have turned out wrong, I thought SOD was the right man a few months back I was wrong on that.  On the other hand at times I was heavily critical of some of his methods and made that point.  What I didn't want was them to fail and that's where the line is crossed.  I'm very much a traditional 2 wingers playing off a strong striker fan in footballing terms and like to see pace in the team, but that didn't stop me wanting SOD's methods to succeed even if I felt they weren't the right style for out situation.

A similar example is now.  I like Diouf but currently I don't think he's the right persona for our situation.  His talent and work rate isn't an issue it's the aura he brings with him away from home and it riles up the home crowds and referees, we don't need that.  Harsh it is but I feel it's an issue for the team particularly away from home.  However, whilst he's here and playing I hope he proves that feeling wrong and becomes massive for us, even if personally I don't feel he's right for the team right now (I'd use Bennett's pace to give more balance).  But I won't keep banging on about it I'll support the guy and Saunders for picking him.  That is the difference, it's not about cutting off that opinion it's about making it and then making the best of the situation by supporting all you can.  Geez if I kept making my points at work about things I don't agree with I'd be sacked, sometimes the best option is to make the point and leave it at that.

[hoolahoop]

Jeez can't we just stop all this, we're in a mess and throwing blame about whether it be to individual/collective posters, the VSC forum or the VSC hospitality episode is hardly going to mend all this is it !
Ffs everybody stop looking for scapegoats, pull together both on and off the Terraces........we've got a club to support.
There are a lot of 'kneejerk' reactions going on here, just show that JR has your support and let's get on with saving not only our season but our club can we ?

All Rovers supporters both young and old, pro and con the new strategy or individuals have got a job to do and all this angst is not going to help.

[Adam]

It'll never work hoolahoop.

If people aren't happy clappy then you get shot down down a lead fcuking balloon. If you have a differing opinion to either:
a) the majority
b) a figurehead of the forum

you are seen as the anti-christ. Always has been and always will be this way.

Oh, if you don't support the club in 100% of the ways that it does things then you're not a true supporter. Also, if you haven't been to every game since 1972 (even if you were born after, THERE'S NO fcukING EXCUSES) you're not a true supporter. If you have a problem with McKay because the main reason he's here is to make money - he hasn't put any money into the club so he can up off and fcuk whenever he likes leaving us in bigger shit than we're already in, you get shot down because he's seen as a God on this forum for some f**king reason.

I support the club, but some decisions taken over the past fcuking year have been mindblowing to say the least. I would rather us lose a fighting battle and get relegated than stay up by the skin of our teeth with shit loads of debt and no chance in hell of repaying them any time soon. This includes the stadium, players we can't afford etc. We need a sustainable club. The TOWN needs a sustainable club.

Oh, I apologise for ranting. I also apologise for having a differing opinion to most. I'm sure another member of DRFC will read this post and want to quit. What dicks.

[hoolahoop]

Sadly you are right on most counts Adam but you have to try. There isn't a person on here that can't in his heart of hearts have some reservations on what's happened over the last year or two and you're right they have a right to be heard rather than follow some sort of partyline. Sometimes this place reminds me of how the Germans must have had to think in the 30's.

[bobjimwilly]

Adam, I can think of other reasons why certain posters get \"shot down\".

[bobjimwilly]

Sadly you are right on most counts Adam but you have to try. There isn't a person on here that can't in his heart of hearts have some reservations on what's happened over the last year or two and you're right they have a right to be heard rather than follow some sort of partyline. Sometimes this place reminds me of how the Germans must have had to think in the 30's.

Really? You're now comparing this open, public forum that doesn't censor anyone's posts to propaganda driven Nazi Germany?

[sedwardsdrfc]

Oh, if you don't support the club in 100% of the ways that it does things then you're not a true supporter. Also, if you haven't been to every game since 1972 (even if you were born after, THERE'S NO fcukING EXCUSES) you're not a true supporter.

too often that is true and a big reason for such small crowds

[Adam]

Adam, I can think of other reasons why certain posters get \"shot down\".

... because they have a differing opinion to you.

That is it.

[hoolahoop]

Come on Rob it was slightly tongue in cheek, must admit I forgot the winky thing though . Like the Nazi type salute at the end of your post though..........see you're getting in to the gist of things too. (remembered this time )

[The L J Monk]

Sometimes this place reminds me of how the Germans must have had to think in the 30's.

Really? You're now comparing this open, public forum that doesn't censor anyone's posts to propaganda driven Nazi Germany?

It's taken 10 pages, but Mike is right again.

[hoolahoop]

Sometimes this place reminds me of how the Germans must have had to think in the 30's.

Really? You're now comparing this open, public forum that doesn't censor anyone's posts to propaganda driven Nazi Germany?

It's taken 10 pages, but Mike is right again.

[Chris]

It'll never work hoolahoop.

If people aren't happy clappy then you get shot down down a lead fcuking balloon. If you have a differing opinion to either:
a) the majority
b) a figurehead of the forum

you are seen as the anti-christ. Always has been and always will be this way.

Oh, if you don't support the club in 100% of the ways that it does things then you're not a true supporter. Also, if you haven't been to every game since 1972 (even if you were born after, THERE'S NO fcukING EXCUSES) you're not a true supporter. If you have a problem with McKay because the main reason he's here is to make money - he hasn't put any money into the club so he can up off and fcuk whenever he likes leaving us in bigger shit than we're already in, you get shot down because he's seen as a God on this forum for some fcuking reason.

I support the club, but some decisions taken over the past fcuking year have been mindblowing to say the least. I would rather us lose a fighting battle and get relegated than stay up by the skin of our teeth with shit loads of debt and no chance in hell of repaying them any time soon. This includes the stadium, players we can't afford etc. We need a sustainable club. The TOWN needs a sustainable club.

Oh, I apologise for ranting. I also apologise for having a differing opinion to most. I'm sure another member of DRFC will read this post and want to quit. What dicks.

To use one of the VSC propaganda machine's favourite lines; \"post of the year\".

[Spike]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

[donnyroversfc]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Kirkham.

[Chris]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

I guess this person decided against getting involved in football altogether then?

I'm not sure who JR and some fans are criticising. Is it those who disagree with the sacking of O'Driscoll and the arrival of Saunders and McKay? Or is it the fans who supposedly moan at everything the club does? I have to say that I'm very disappointed in the way people feel that they must apologise for having an opinion (in regards to the first group I mentioned).

[Chris]

\"We have reached an era that you just have to ask questions to become an enemy of the state. Remember, it's okay to ask questions.\" - Anonymous.

[Chris Black come back]

Benaldo, your comments are very hypocritical!! I suppose it was perfectly acceptable to spout critiscm on here when it was aimed at SO'D, Hird, Friend etc.

Duh.......

Saying George Friend is rubbish at football, or that SOD was out of ideas, or Hird was a cretin (before his now well publicised rise to stardom) is going to do what exactly? Make 4 directors leave? Harm the club? Put JR into the position that he wants to leave? Offers my \"business advice\" to him? Moans about Willie Mckay? Bleats on and on and on about our directors being up to no good all the time?

Think about your own contribution donnyroversfc.....I think a quick look back will see you've got your fingers in the shitty pie......

I think Benaldo should not be allowed to post on here as he has lived LONGER IN BARNSLEY THAN IN DONCASTER. That's right. Benaldo is a DINGLE.

Get rid of him, cast him out, banish him. Be gone foul demon. Go! Go!







(this was a joke)

[The Red Baron]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

[Chris]

I don't know if it was fans who were the cause of the 4 directors leaving but I know they have been the cause of one potential investor not wanting to get involved with putting finances into Rovers.  It is a pity really, the person I am talking about makes Mr Bramall look a relatively poor person.

Funny isn't it? One minute our fans are apathetic, the next they're such a bunch of vituperative spitfires that no-one would want to be a director.

If this was Facebook I would 'like' that comment. But it isn't so I can't.

(But I do like that comment)