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Quote from: bpoolrover on February 11, 2018, 05:42:43 pmLatest you gov poll has tories 4 points ahead bit surprised, but think it shows if correct labour will struggle to get in power with Corbyn in charge The Tories have had small leads in three polls this week. Says a lot about Labour because even under normal circumstances you'd expect the Opposition to have a poll lead at this stage of a Parliament.
Latest you gov poll has tories 4 points ahead bit surprised, but think it shows if correct labour will struggle to get in power with Corbyn in charge
Quote from: German Rover on February 11, 2018, 07:03:44 pmNope. It's nowhere near that one armoured regiment, one armoured infantry battalion. One regiment of engineers soon to be a squadron, one regiment of artillery and a field hospital. A couple of independent companies, doing police and intelligence. Add in a couple of headquarters. The units out there are massively undermanned. I'm currently serving at the minute and have to deal with an ever increasing list of tasks and an ever shrinking list of soldiers to do them. As for the flying troops in, not a chance would this work, there aren't the numbers to do it and the RAF don't have enough airframe to do it. Britain doesn't have the capability to do it alone any more. We would rely on a huge influx of Americans to help shore up Europe. NATO is the best thing going for us, as is the EU. Brexir has down discord between us and the rest of Europe and this can only be bad for NATO. Not only that my wages are worth less now than they were before the brexit vote. My own morale is at an all time low never mind the lads who work for me. 8 Globemaster,24 Hercules,60 chinook......that's 4,000 troops easily over to Germany in 2 hours.
Nope. It's nowhere near that one armoured regiment, one armoured infantry battalion. One regiment of engineers soon to be a squadron, one regiment of artillery and a field hospital. A couple of independent companies, doing police and intelligence. Add in a couple of headquarters. The units out there are massively undermanned. I'm currently serving at the minute and have to deal with an ever increasing list of tasks and an ever shrinking list of soldiers to do them. As for the flying troops in, not a chance would this work, there aren't the numbers to do it and the RAF don't have enough airframe to do it. Britain doesn't have the capability to do it alone any more. We would rely on a huge influx of Americans to help shore up Europe. NATO is the best thing going for us, as is the EU. Brexir has down discord between us and the rest of Europe and this can only be bad for NATO. Not only that my wages are worth less now than they were before the brexit vote. My own morale is at an all time low never mind the lads who work for me.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on February 11, 2018, 08:04:57 pmQuote from: German Rover on February 11, 2018, 07:03:44 pmNope. It's nowhere near that one armoured regiment, one armoured infantry battalion. One regiment of engineers soon to be a squadron, one regiment of artillery and a field hospital. A couple of independent companies, doing police and intelligence. Add in a couple of headquarters. The units out there are massively undermanned. I'm currently serving at the minute and have to deal with an ever increasing list of tasks and an ever shrinking list of soldiers to do them. As for the flying troops in, not a chance would this work, there aren't the numbers to do it and the RAF don't have enough airframe to do it. Britain doesn't have the capability to do it alone any more. We would rely on a huge influx of Americans to help shore up Europe. NATO is the best thing going for us, as is the EU. Brexir has down discord between us and the rest of Europe and this can only be bad for NATO. Not only that my wages are worth less now than they were before the brexit vote. My own morale is at an all time low never mind the lads who work for me. 8 Globemaster,24 Hercules,60 chinook......that's 4,000 troops easily over to Germany in 2 hours.Wouldn't work, how many of those airframes are taskworthy at any one time. Its not even half id venture. Also 2 hours? Do you think the army are sat on their Bergens waiting for the nod. Nope they're on leave, they're on courses. They're on exercise. They're on the sick injured. They're anywhere but sat in the barracks waiting to go. Where are they going to leave from? The airfields will be targeted by strategic bombers immediately as will all the ports.
Quote from: German Rover on February 11, 2018, 08:36:56 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on February 11, 2018, 08:04:57 pmQuote from: German Rover on February 11, 2018, 07:03:44 pmNope. It's nowhere near that one armoured regiment, one armoured infantry battalion. One regiment of engineers soon to be a squadron, one regiment of artillery and a field hospital. A couple of independent companies, doing police and intelligence. Add in a couple of headquarters. The units out there are massively undermanned. I'm currently serving at the minute and have to deal with an ever increasing list of tasks and an ever shrinking list of soldiers to do them. As for the flying troops in, not a chance would this work, there aren't the numbers to do it and the RAF don't have enough airframe to do it. Britain doesn't have the capability to do it alone any more. We would rely on a huge influx of Americans to help shore up Europe. NATO is the best thing going for us, as is the EU. Brexir has down discord between us and the rest of Europe and this can only be bad for NATO. Not only that my wages are worth less now than they were before the brexit vote. My own morale is at an all time low never mind the lads who work for me. 8 Globemaster,24 Hercules,60 chinook......that's 4,000 troops easily over to Germany in 2 hours.Wouldn't work, how many of those airframes are taskworthy at any one time. Its not even half id venture. Also 2 hours? Do you think the army are sat on their Bergens waiting for the nod. Nope they're on leave, they're on courses. They're on exercise. They're on the sick injured. They're anywhere but sat in the barracks waiting to go. Where are they going to leave from? The airfields will be targeted by strategic bombers immediately as will all the ports. Probably all are airworthy they ain't got the life of a Monarch airlines jet!Which seem to be in the air for 20 hours a day every day. Military kit is built to an even higher standard. In any case we wouldn't even need a strategic airlift to get 20 k troops to Germany we merely commandeer the civil fleet, aka Atlantic conveyor.The biggest issue for Hm Forces would be getting a second Armoured division across the North Sea, that would be hard work.If we have the equipment on site staffing. An armoured Division with personnel from the uk can be achieved in 48 hours. Provided we are in a situation where we have time to react A pre emotive strike is a different matter.
SprotyIs this invasion before or after we pull out of the Custom’s Union?If it’s after, the troops wouldn’t be able to get to Dover for trucks backing up the M2.
Hmm. Unironically posting about pulling troops out of Europe, and invading. But it's remainers who are spitting the dummy out.This thread is weird.
Quote from: MachoMadness on February 12, 2018, 02:06:35 pmHmm. Unironically posting about pulling troops out of Europe, and invading. But it's remainers who are spitting the dummy out.This thread is weird.Well well well you have been following all of this closely haven't you . " spitting dummies out " the best you can come out with MM about the biggest decision this country has faced for nigh on a century ?
Quote from: hoolahoop on February 13, 2018, 01:32:24 amQuote from: MachoMadness on February 12, 2018, 02:06:35 pmHmm. Unironically posting about pulling troops out of Europe, and invading. But it's remainers who are spitting the dummy out.This thread is weird.More than that it is quite pathetic and doesn't acknowledge current circumstances at all. Brexiters grow up .Well well well you have been following all of this closely haven't you . " spitting dummies out " the best you can come out with MM about the biggest decision this country has faced for nigh on a century ? Not only that, I'd have thought the thought of pulling our troops out of EU countries in an act of petulance by a Brexiteer who wasn't getting what they wanted was the biggest dummy being spat.
Quote from: MachoMadness on February 12, 2018, 02:06:35 pmHmm. Unironically posting about pulling troops out of Europe, and invading. But it's remainers who are spitting the dummy out.This thread is weird.More than that it is quite pathetic and doesn't acknowledge current circumstances at all. Brexiters grow up .Well well well you have been following all of this closely haven't you . " spitting dummies out " the best you can come out with MM about the biggest decision this country has faced for nigh on a century ?
sarcasm/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/nounthe use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
Quote from: MachoMadness on February 13, 2018, 02:43:25 pmsarcasm/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/nounthe use of irony to mock or convey contempt.How do you convey sarcasm in the written word?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 02:50:49 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on February 13, 2018, 02:43:25 pmsarcasm/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/nounthe use of irony to mock or convey contempt.How do you convey sarcasm in the written word?Right you morons when I have I said we would invade Europe?A question for the ages, that one Glyn. Far cleverer than us have pondered it and got nowhere. Still, yes, I was using sarcasm to point out the ridiculousness of a Brexiteer accusing others of spitting the dummy out while simultaneously talking about invading Europe, or some other such nonsense.BB, it's almost as if there isn't a single "remainer" mindset and people are free to agree, disagree, and interpret things differently. As a remain voter yourself I imagine you know that though and are just being a mischievous little tyke again.
That got lost in the quote....Right you Morons when did I say out about invading Europe?
or some other such nonsense
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 02:50:49 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on February 13, 2018, 02:43:25 pmsarcasm/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/nounthe use of irony to mock or convey contempt.How do you convey sarcasm in the written word?A question for the ages, that one Glyn. Far cleverer than us have pondered it and got nowhere. Still, yes, I was using sarcasm to point out the ridiculousness of a Brexiteer accusing others of spitting the dummy out while simultaneously talking about invading Europe, or some other such nonsense.BB, it's almost as if there isn't a single "remainer" mindset and people are free to agree, disagree, and interpret things differently. As a remain voter yourself I imagine you know that though and are just being a mischievous little tyke again.