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Even so, surely they will consider the alternative of relocating to one of the remaining thriving countries still in the EU?
BBI’ve explained to you times without number that the economic effect has been PRECISELY that indicated by economists. We’re already £60-80bn down as a result of the vote. When I first told you that, you didn’t say ANYTHING about both sides having expected that. You blathered about the effect of the General Election. When I pointed out that the economic hit had set in well before the election, you went back to saying that we can’t oreduct the effect of Brexit. When I reiterated that we can and have done, you whined about Osborne predicting a recession. When I pointed out that we would be in recession if the rest of the world hadn’t gone into an unexpected boom, you said that showed that economists can’t preduct the future. When I pointed out that opinion betrayed a misunderstanding of how economics works, you said nothing, then later repeated the point about Osborne saying there’s be a recession.When I then say that you seem more interested in arguing than engaging with a grown up discussion, you say I’m insulting you.And then you say that BOTH sides said there would be problems, although I doubt anyone would remember Farage on the hustings bellowing “Vote Leave and the UK economy will lose £60-80bn by early 2018.” Maybe I wasn’t paying attention. Have fun because I’ve got more important shit to deal with than indulge your obtuseness. And the same economists are predicting that
I think your obtuseness and insistence on arguing for the sake of arguing with no real interest in finding a sensible conclusion is very wearing and depressing. But I’m sure you get something out of it.
BBAnd as we’ve discussed a thousand times, there are an infinite number of different ways of leaving. Saying that we’re all leavers now is pointless unless you know what we are leaving. That was never set out before the vote. So I reverse my right to argue like f**k that we shouldn’t have a Hard Brexit, and to point out why it would be a disaster.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on April 07, 2018, 09:30:39 pmQuote from: hoolahoop on April 07, 2018, 09:14:14 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on April 07, 2018, 07:38:47 pmBilly it was the case of Victor Domboskis in 2006.Sproty there are upwards of 3,000,000 of these furriners here at any one time and you have as your statistic 1 child rapist from Lithuania. Whilst this man and his crimes were horrendous are you seriously saying there are hundreds more in the country already ? Not doubting your sincerity and fear about this but who says that there are " 20/30,000 " hardened criminals awaiting return " ? If so why the f**k haven't we been doing our jobs here. That's a serious amount of bad boys and girls !You're right Hoola all of those foreigners are here and until they get arrested we haven't got a clue as to their antecedents.And prior to the case of Dombodkis we were doing nothing about checking up on them.In fact we had peeps turning up on the motorway hard shoulder, being taken to a Police station fingerprinted and then being released and told to make their own way to Liverpool to register.Hardly a satisfactory state of affairs isn't it, oh and by the way when Have I ever belittled you in a Post?Why do you feel you were belittled . The current prison population in the UK is only 85, 000 but you want us to believe that whilst EU immigrants only represent some 4-5 % of the general population ; they would represent 25- 40 % of our current prison population given your 20-30k figure.That's why I challenged your figures - what you are in essence suggesting is that Europeans are 6 or even 8 times as likely to be serious criminals than us Brits . Basically that sort of figure came from where ....The Daily Express ?
Quote from: hoolahoop on April 07, 2018, 09:14:14 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on April 07, 2018, 07:38:47 pmBilly it was the case of Victor Domboskis in 2006.Sproty there are upwards of 3,000,000 of these furriners here at any one time and you have as your statistic 1 child rapist from Lithuania. Whilst this man and his crimes were horrendous are you seriously saying there are hundreds more in the country already ? Not doubting your sincerity and fear about this but who says that there are " 20/30,000 " hardened criminals awaiting return " ? If so why the f**k haven't we been doing our jobs here. That's a serious amount of bad boys and girls !You're right Hoola all of those foreigners are here and until they get arrested we haven't got a clue as to their antecedents.And prior to the case of Dombodkis we were doing nothing about checking up on them.In fact we had peeps turning up on the motorway hard shoulder, being taken to a Police station fingerprinted and then being released and told to make their own way to Liverpool to register.Hardly a satisfactory state of affairs isn't it, oh and by the way when Have I ever belittled you in a Post?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on April 07, 2018, 07:38:47 pmBilly it was the case of Victor Domboskis in 2006.Sproty there are upwards of 3,000,000 of these furriners here at any one time and you have as your statistic 1 child rapist from Lithuania. Whilst this man and his crimes were horrendous are you seriously saying there are hundreds more in the country already ? Not doubting your sincerity and fear about this but who says that there are " 20/30,000 " hardened criminals awaiting return " ? If so why the f**k haven't we been doing our jobs here. That's a serious amount of bad boys and girls !
Billy it was the case of Victor Domboskis in 2006.
We deport 30,000 EU citizens a year really ? -however you never seem to supply the relevant attachments do you to back up your assertions . Only what someone you know tells you. To listen to you , you would think that, every European but the British is nothing more than a scumbag. Is that really what you believe ? You have taken xenophobia to new heights .It's your sort that spreads fear about foreigners , why do you do it .....you've even tried doing it with me ffs about MY OWN DAUGHTER !! Do you realise how that makes me feel as I prepare her to work for nearly 2 months working in Spain followed by a further year in Denmark . You have started that little irrational fearful thought, just like an itch that won't go away, in the back of my mind ?
SWITZERLAND NOT in the EU still in EUROPE Has its own TAILORED EU DEAL Has FREE TRADE DEALS with China Japan THE EU and many more Exports FIVE TIMES more than the UK to THE EU Adopts 0% of the EU RULES Has the HIGHEST WAGES IN EUROPE Is the 2nd RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD by nominal GDP PER HEAD RANKS 1st in the WORLD in the global innovation index Is NOT in the EU DOING RATHER WELL DON'T YOU THINK It can be done, but both sides need to want to do it, and stop playing silly buggers.
GlynActually, he’s correct on nominal GDP per head. You’re posting PPP figures which are the commonly used ones because they take into account the very high cost of living in Switzerland. You wouldn’t expect a Brexit supporter to tell the world that Switzerland has a ferociously high cost of living, would you? I was in Lugano 7 years ago. We had a couple of pizzas and two pints of beer in a bog standard trattoria. The bill was nearly £80.You also wouldn’t expect a Brexit supporter to tell you that the one country in the world with a higher nominal GDP per head than Switzerland is in the EU, would you? Or that Ireland which was an economic basket case in the 1970s now has a higher PPP GDP per head than Switzerland?