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IDM

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #240 on January 16, 2020, 06:33:48 pm by IDM »
Their agents.!!



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Alan Southstand

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #241 on January 16, 2020, 06:38:22 pm by Alan Southstand »
Well, what is it then, SM?

Something is preventing us getting DM’s targets. Something is not right!

At least we all know, now, that:

a) some of our targets have been missed (I.e. more than one).
b) despite what Campsall would have us believe, there are players out there that are available and were targeted by the manager.
c) the manager is going to be hacked off if we don’t strengthen this month.

The clock is ticking.

Filo

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« Reply #242 on January 16, 2020, 06:44:11 pm by Filo »
It appears to me as the month goes on DM is getting more and more uncomfortable when asked about any incomings. It’s clear to see something is not right with our recruitment strategy

steve@dcfd

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« Reply #243 on January 16, 2020, 06:45:51 pm by steve@dcfd »
Also Sadlier has not signed his contract either so that can’t be money! must be something else.
He says in his interview he is enjoying it here.
So for another reason he’s not signing his contract.

IDM

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #244 on January 16, 2020, 06:46:40 pm by IDM »
You missed out the word “yet”..

steve@dcfd

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #245 on January 16, 2020, 06:48:43 pm by steve@dcfd »
Yes yet he has to sign.
Yet we have not signed players.
The end of the month is not here Yet.
DM has not had enough Yet.

drfc1951

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #246 on January 16, 2020, 06:53:59 pm by drfc1951 »
Maybe the players wanted a guarantee of starting every game

steve@dcfd

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« Reply #247 on January 16, 2020, 07:02:44 pm by steve@dcfd »
Maybe the players wanted a guarantee of starting every game
As I’ve said having four loans already their clubs and the players maybe wanted Guarantees as you said.

the vicar

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #248 on January 16, 2020, 07:03:37 pm by the vicar »
As regards to Matty Blair getting a new contract, versatile players don't grow on trees these days, he can play midfield, right back, or winger, & with a small relatively inexperienced squad outside the first eleven, he should be offered a new contract in my opinion.
as for letting matty go, we have not got enough good players of our own, all the ones we have are all good but we have not got enough of them

dickos1

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« Reply #249 on January 16, 2020, 07:04:54 pm by dickos1 »
At the end of the day people can keep saying we have a top 6 budget and we have money available to spend.
But surely these words are worth nothing if we don’t sign the players that reflect that.
Our recruitment over the last year doesn’t reflect one with a top 6 budget

since-1969

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« Reply #250 on January 16, 2020, 07:05:58 pm by since-1969 »
Might be more to put in if season ticket sales drop in the summer it’s hardly encouraging new fans of old fans are having a rethink at renewing with the Russian roulette transfer policy.

Maybe Darren has to lower his transfer sights and realise we are a league one club and he’s not in the West Brom job

Season ticket sales have been on the increase for the last few seasons.
well its seriously got me and my girlfriend thinking about not renewing next season
why, we could go one point of top as it stands, approaching the end of jan if we played the 2 catchup games next.  We don't currently have strength in depth, but it's not exactly holding us back is it.
Is this good run of form making it even harder for DM to make a case to release funds or is this just the fortunate outcome expected from the quality of this squad .

Michael Gibson

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #251 on January 16, 2020, 07:06:27 pm by Michael Gibson »
It’s obviously money and the boards unwillingness to show any ambition, teams like Rotherham and Fleetwood make us look stupid

drfchound

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« Reply #252 on January 16, 2020, 07:10:28 pm by drfchound »
It is very hard to believe that players consistently are not coming to us for reasons other than money.
We are a good secure club with decent enough gates for L1.
A nice stadium and good training facilities.
A manager with a good background and allegedly well liked in football.
What else besides a competitive salary can be the issue which causes players to go elsewhere?

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #253 on January 16, 2020, 07:18:43 pm by Copps is Magic »
It’s obviously money and the boards unwillingness to show any ambition, teams like Rotherham and Fleetwood make us look stupid

Why is it lack of ambition? The crowds are average and the owners still throw a million at it every year...and thats still not enough to compete with the big spenders.

You either cut your clothe or spend silly money, there's no in between. Clue - the last options puts the club at risk.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #254 on January 16, 2020, 07:21:41 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Interestingly, DM has now publicly admitted that we have missed out on some targets in this window as they have decided to go elsewhere. This is a definite change in tact from what we previously understood to be the case.

Can you tell me where in that interview he said we have missed out on targets? I've listened to it twice now and both times he answered the question if we had missed out as no.

In any event, one of the common sticking points which players hold out for is length of contract. We offer two, they want 3 etc. That's just a player and agents parogative.

Someone said he sounded unhappy. I didn't get that at all. It was a better line of questioning from Adam Oxley and he answered the only way he could do really.

keith79

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #255 on January 16, 2020, 07:22:11 pm by keith79 »
Their agents.!!
I mean who negotiate on behalf  of the rovers

Campsall rover

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #256 on January 16, 2020, 07:23:30 pm by Campsall rover »
Well, what is it then, SM?

Something is preventing us getting DM’s targets. Something is not right!

At least we all know, now, that:

a) some of our targets have been missed (I.e. more than one).
b) despite what Campsall would have us believe, there are players out there that are available and were targeted by the manager.
c) the manager is going to be hacked off if we don’t strengthen this month.

The clock is ticking.
Alan you keep miss quoting me.
What i said was there will not be many players available in January.
I have not said at any point that there are no players available.
DM has said as much himself. It is not an easy window to do business. DM’s words.
Please read my posts correctly Alan as you and others on here are miss quoting me regularly.  :zzz:

the vicar

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #257 on January 16, 2020, 07:23:54 pm by the vicar »
It’s obviously money and the boards unwillingness to show any ambition, teams like Rotherham and Fleetwood make us look stupid
I think Fleetwood could get themselves in trouble over fair play rules the wat they are going with just over 3000 crouds

vaya

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #258 on January 16, 2020, 07:24:51 pm by vaya »
At the end of the day people can keep saying we have a top 6 budget and we have money available to spend.
But surely these words are worth nothing if we don’t sign the players that reflect that.
Our recruitment over the last year doesn’t reflect one with a top 6 budget

Certainly an issue when the FL stops allocating League position on the basis of points.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #259 on January 16, 2020, 07:27:53 pm by Campsall rover »
It’s obviously money and the boards unwillingness to show any ambition, teams like Rotherham and Fleetwood make us look stupid
So we play our players peanuts do we.

No we don’t. Some of the rubbish being posted on this forum has Zero credence. Evidence please.

vaya

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #260 on January 16, 2020, 07:31:56 pm by vaya »
It’s obviously money and the boards unwillingness to show any ambition, teams like Rotherham and Fleetwood make us look stupid

Fleetwood - a point behind us.

Rotherham - seven points in front, having played two more games.

You're not even trying now Michael.

steve@dcfd

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #261 on January 16, 2020, 07:33:25 pm by steve@dcfd »
Interestingly, DM has now publicly admitted that we have missed out on some targets in this window as they have decided to go elsewhere. This is a definite change in tact from what we previously understood to be the case.

Can you tell me where in that interview he said we have missed out on targets? I've listened to it twice now and both times he answered the question if we had missed out as no.

In any event, one of the common sticking points which players hold out for is length of contract. We offer two, they want 3 etc. That's just a player and agents parogative.

Someone said he sounded unhappy. I didn't get that at all. It was a better line of questioning from Adam Oxley and he answered the only way he could do really.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/darren-moore-desire-signings-missing-out-players-and-why-no-deals-have-been-done-so-far-doncaster-rovers-1367536

lee.j09

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #262 on January 16, 2020, 07:33:56 pm by lee.j09 »
There’s no way we’ve got anywhere near a top 6 budget.

Blatantly being lied to!

the vicar

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #263 on January 16, 2020, 07:34:20 pm by the vicar »
DM has now got a new nick name, the loan arranger and his side kick Tonto, high oh silver away😁

IDM

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #264 on January 16, 2020, 07:37:18 pm by IDM »
There’s no way we’ve got anywhere near a top 6 budget.

Blatantly being lied to!

Having the budget, and being able to spend it, are two different things.

That’s not such a difficult concept is it.?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2020, 07:46:25 pm by IDM »

keith79

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #265 on January 16, 2020, 07:40:46 pm by keith79 »
When moore identifies a player he wants who does he go to. Who's job is it at the rovers to negotiate with other clubs and players agents

Campsall rover

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« Reply #266 on January 16, 2020, 07:45:29 pm by Campsall rover »
There’s no way we’ve got anywhere near a top 6 budget.

Blatantly being lied to!
Evidence. Come on then. Making statements saying the board are telling blatant lies.
You need to back that up with facts.

lee.j09

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #267 on January 16, 2020, 07:46:50 pm by lee.j09 »
There’s no way we’ve got anywhere near a top 6 budget.

Blatantly being lied to!

Having the budget, and being able to spend it, are two different things.

That’s not such a difficulty concept is it.?

I don’t understand how you can’t see that we’re being lied to with regards the budget.
Look at the last 2 managers that have Left.

https://youtu.be/KGJSsNOHbp0

1hour 37minutes on from Dickovs mouth...

vaya

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #268 on January 16, 2020, 07:47:33 pm by vaya »
Interestingly, DM has now publicly admitted that we have missed out on some targets in this window as they have decided to go elsewhere. This is a definite change in tact from what we previously understood to be the case.

Can you tell me where in that interview he said we have missed out on targets? I've listened to it twice now and both times he answered the question if we had missed out as no.

In any event, one of the common sticking points which players hold out for is length of contract. We offer two, they want 3 etc. That's just a player and agents parogative.

Someone said he sounded unhappy. I didn't get that at all. It was a better line of questioning from Adam Oxley and he answered the only way he could do really.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/darren-moore-desire-signings-missing-out-players-and-why-no-deals-have-been-done-so-far-doncaster-rovers-1367536

Precis-

Idah would have been here at the start of the month, but injury crisis at Norwich stopped this.

Players have gone elsewhere, but Moore says the beauty is there are other targets out there.

Those who have gone elsewhere have done so for a variety of reasons, none of which are money.

vaya

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Re: “Getting them over the line”
« Reply #269 on January 16, 2020, 07:48:36 pm by vaya »
There’s no way we’ve got anywhere near a top 6 budget.

Blatantly being lied to!

Having the budget, and being able to spend it, are two different things.

That’s not such a difficulty concept is it.?

I don’t understand how you can’t see that we’re being lied to with regards the budget.
Look at the last 2 managers that have Left.

https://youtu.be/KGJSsNOHbp0

1hour 37minutes on from Dickovs mouth...

Are you saying we didn't have a top six budget last season Lee?

 

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