Priti Patel

[SydneyRover]

''Tory MP says party must change attitude towards taking the knee''

Shouldn't it be:

 tory party stops being the party of division and negates the need to take the knee in UK?

[bpoolrover]

''Tory MP says party must change attitude towards taking the knee''

Shouldn't it be:

 tory party stops being the party of division and negates the need to take the knee in UK?

it should be up to the individual person no? There are many people I know who vote labour that do not like it does that make them and the Labour Party racist?

[Janso]

''Tory MP says party must change attitude towards taking the knee''

Shouldn't it be:

 tory party stops being the party of division and negates the need to take the knee in UK?

it should be up to the individual person no? There are many people I know who vote labour that do not like it does that make them and the Labour Party racist?

Read the post again, you've missed the point.

[bpoolrover]

Unfortunately for the BLM movement it has been jumped on by people who call for things that will never happen like defunding the police ect. In the real world how can anyone support that? The protests in london half the people had anti Tory and excitation. Rebellion banners, and were simply there to protest which is a shame, racism like any form or abuse and bullying needs to be addressed and certain people need educating or punishing for there vile views, but just because you don't agree with BLM does not mean you are racist

[bpoolrover]

''Tory MP says party must change attitude towards taking the knee''

Shouldn't it be:

 tory party stops being the party of division and negates the need to take the knee in UK?

it should be up to the individual person no? There are many people I know who vote labour that do not like it does that make them and the Labour Party racist?

Read the post again, you've missed the point.

I have read it but maybe I don't get the point? Hope your feeling better now?

[bpoolrover]

https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/20210224_Black_Lives_Matter_Orlu_COMMENTARY_FWEb.pdf

[SydneyRover]

Unfortunately for the BLM movement it has been jumped on by people who call for things that will never happen like defunding the police ect. In the real world how can anyone support that? The protests in london half the people had anti Tory and excitation. Rebellion banners, and were simply there to protest which is a shame, racism like any form or abuse and bullying needs to be addressed and certain people need educating or punishing for there vile views, but just because you don't agree with BLM does not mean you are racist

As you keep on missing the point deliberately or otherwise and trying to derail the conversation I will post this comment by Normal Rules as it explains what many refuse to accept

Normal Rules

''"Defund the police," a phrase popularized by Black Lives Matter during the George Floyd protests
"Defund the police" is a slogan that supports divesting funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources. Activists who use the phrase may do so with varying intentions; some seek modest reductions, while others argue for full divestment as a step toward the abolition of contemporary police services. Activists who support the defunding of police departments often argue that investing in community programs could provide a better crime deterrent for communities; funds would go toward addressing social issues, like poverty, homelessness, and mental disorders.[1][2] Police abolitionists call for replacing existing police forces with other systems of public safety, like housing, employment, community health, education, and other programs''

Does that make sense to you bp?

[Ldr]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56281781

Link was in the same Twitter thread, a settlement. I can’t help wondering why you chose not to link that? You remind me of another poster with the misrepresentation, can’t for the life of me remember his name……………

[drfchound]

Just because bpool has a different point of view doesn’t mean he is trying to derail the conversation.

[SydneyRover]

Just because bpool has a different point of view doesn’t mean he is trying to derail the conversation.

You are allowed to offer your opinion on my opinion and add to the conversation hound, thinking outside the circle ......... of those you prefer to support

[Janso]

''Tory MP says party must change attitude towards taking the knee''

Shouldn't it be:

 tory party stops being the party of division and negates the need to take the knee in UK?

it should be up to the individual person no? There are many people I know who vote labour that do not like it does that make them and the Labour Party racist?

Read the post again, you've missed the point.

I have read it but maybe I don't get the point? Hope your feeling better now?

Then you're wilfully missing it. Sydney said they should be the party who ends the need to take a knee, i.e. try and tackle systemic racism.

But you rush in to revert to type with your "but but but Labour".

[drfchound]

Just because bpool has a different point of view doesn’t mean he is trying to derail the conversation.

You are allowed to offer your opinion on my opinion and add to the conversation hound, thinking outside the circle ......... of those you prefer to support

However, people are allowed to offer a different opinion and not take the conversation any further.
Lots of times people do that on the forum.

[SydneyRover]

it's like racism hound just because your neighbour is doesn't mean you have to be aye?

[SydneyRover]

''Priti Patel ‘misled’ MPs over plans for protest crackdown
FoI responses suggest home secretary did not consult Police Federation and did not have data on modern slavery''

It's about time this woman fell on her sword

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/18/priti-patel-misled-mps-over-plans-for-protest-crackdown

[grayx]

Horrible woman but well suited to the party she represents.

[sha66y]

Pretty Patel is a babe !

[scawsby steve]

Pretty Patel is a babe !

Yeah; I've still not been able to play out my fantasy of her thrashing the f*ck out of me.

The problem is she's too expensive, which is why BB is still trying to organise a whip-round for me.

[Bentley Bullet]

SS. My dyslexia's let me down a bit in the search for a way of getting her to carry out your fantasy. I've just spent 4 hours this afternoon on the M&S website.

[belton rover]

My doctor gave me a prescription for daily sex.
Mrs Belton reckons it’s for dyslexia.

[SydneyRover]

''The police bill is not about law and order – it’s about state control''

''The bill seeks to quietly criminalise “serious annoyance”, increase police powers to restrict protests, and give the home secretary discretion over what types of protests are allowed.

This bill would make it a crime to cause “serious annoyance” to the public, with a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. However, one of the most worrying powers created by the bill gives the home secretary control over the definition of “serious disruption to the life of the community” and “serious disruption to the activities of an organisation”, both of which can determine when police powers to limit protest are engaged. This power effectively grants a minister the ability to suppress the kinds of protests that he or she does not like or agree with''

The government refers to the 2019 Extinction Rebellion protests and the recent “Kill the Bill” protests in Bristol as justifying these new powers. After all, given the images of a seemingly beleaguered police force struggling to defend itself against a mob who have set fire to vans, with officers suffering broken bones and a collapsed lung, ought we not to give the police the tools to fight back?

Except that it turns out that the media coverage of the Bristol protests has been misleading, the Avon and Somerset police admitted there had not been any broken bones or punctured lungs and the locals in Bristol tell a very different story of heavy-handed police tactics. In addition, it has been reported that far more protesters than police were injured''

Must be the influence of the rouble on the party.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/09/police-bill-not-law-order-state-control-erosion-freedom

[BillyStubbsTears]

She's been at it again.

Authorised 90 people who are established UK based and who have served a 1 year or more prison sentence to be deported to Jamaica on Tuesday. All of them had completed their sentence. Some for crimes as minor as drug dealing (remember Michael Gove has admitted being a coke user but apparently that doesn't result in a prison sentence for him - just the people he buys it off). Some have lived in Britain since they were kids and have no base in Jamaica. One in his late 60s is thought to have dementia.

What Patel sneeringly calls "activist lawyers" worked pro bono on this last week. They found that in 83 of the 90 cases, the deportations were legally flawed. The plane finally took off with 7 on board. Without this action, Patel was prepared to illegally deport 83 people.

That from an immigrant herself who by any rational assessment, broke the law with big flashing lights on, when she secretly visited Israel, having undocumented foreign policy discussions.

She's a psychopath. This is the country you are living in.

[Bentley Bullet]

As minor as drug dealing! f**king hell!

[SydneyRover]

She's been at it again.

Authorised 90 people who are established UK based and who have served a 1 year or more prison sentence to be deported to Jamaica on Tuesday. All of them had completed their sentence. Some for crimes as minor as drug dealing (remember Michael Gove has admitted being a coke user but apparently that doesn't result in a prison sentence for him - just the people he buys it off). Some have lived in Britain since they were kids and have no base in Jamaica. One in his late 60s is thought to have dementia.

What Patel sneeringly calls "activist lawyers" worked pro bono on this last week. They found that in 83 of the 90 cases, the deportations were legally flawed. The plane finally took off with 7 on board. Without this action, Patel was prepared to illegally deport 83 people.

That from an immigrant herself who by any rational assessment, broke the law with big flashing lights on, when she secretly visited Israel, having undocumented foreign policy discussions.

She's a psychopath. This is the country you are living in.

On a practical level it doesn't make any sense there would be hundreds of thousands of people living in the UK without visas, on a humanitarian level it's an abomination.

[BillyStubbsTears]

As I say BB, and as you ignore, Class A drug possession doesn't result in any legal sanction at all if you are the Cabinet Secretary. On the other hand, if you are caught providing the drugs to him, and you were born in Jamaica and moved here when you were two years old, Patel's Britain says you first do your stretch inside, then several years later, regardless of whether or not you have kept your nose clean (ahem) since, you can be picked up and deported.

I wouldn't have expected you to engage sensibly on the morality of this. You didn't disappoint me.

[Bentley Bullet]

Possession and dealing are completely different.

[SydneyRover]

In patel's and tory britain you can be deported when you are a citizen and have full residential rights, especially if you are black.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Aaaannnddd there you go again BB.


The point is (and I understand that you will refuse to engage with this because you've dug yourself in) that Gove has never once faced criminal prosecution for ADMITTING Class A drug possession and use. He's on video accepting that his crime could have left him facing a 7 year stretch. But he's never been prosecuted. Instead he was promoted to Justice Secretary.

[BillyStubbsTears]

PS. Several of the people who have previously been deported under that scheme were deported after serving a few months in prison for possession with intent to supply dope. Which our current Foreign Secretary has admitted to dabbling in.

[belton rover]

What never ceases to amaze me are the things that become acceptable if they happen to justify yet another political point. Yes this is a direct point I am making about our Billy - call it a personal attack all you like.
On top of telling all the forum he has ‘blocked’ me for pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of his posts, depending on whoever he is vilifying at any particular time, now he is dumbing down drug dealing because someone he despises has admitted drug taking and hasn’t served time for it.
Pathetic.

[belton rover]

How do you ‘dabble’ in intent to supply? What does that mean?