An electric vehicle that looks like the future

[River Don]

Wow.

https://ev.biomega.com/

Marmite, I suspect though.

[Janso]

Jesus wept, that's hideous.

[drfchound]

I suppose the good thing is that the young women won’t be able to type into their phones whilst driving without being seen doing it.

[River Don]

Take a deep breath, look again.

Completely open cabin with plenty of space, even the wheels have been pushed outside the shell to maximise interior space, lightweight so extended range, batteries designed to take out and swap so even more extended range.

As for the look of it. It's completely different to an ICE car for good reason.

[Not Now Kato]

€20,000! Someone's having a giraffe!
 
Where do I put my fishing tackle or my golf clubs?
 
Net even much room for shopping.

[River Don]

€20,000! Someone's having a giraffe!
 
Where do I put my fishing tackle or my golf clubs?
 
Net even much room for shopping.

€30,000 for the Nissan Leaf. Probably a smaller vehicle.

I expect those lightweight mesh rear seats will pop out very easily if you want to move a lot of stuff.

[Axholme Lion]

Almost all modern cars are disgusting to look at. Why do car designers think they are working on the set of Star Trek?

You can still make something modern but with a traditional style.
I've got one of these and I love it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SUZUKI+JIMNY+GEN4&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiX4Y252LbuAhXBQkEAHUd9B00Q_AUoAXoECBMQAw&biw=960&bih=484#imgrc=EZKN5S5D-3dIQM

[River Don]

I find most affordable cars today pretty boring to look at, they pop out of the same jelly mold.

If you're able to pay a premium then I think modern Audis, Jags, Range Rovers, BMWs, Mercs and so on are pretty good to look at. And there are a lot on the road today, back in the 80s a BMW was much more of a rarity.

The problem with cars today though is they are big, heavy, gas guzzling things.

That car takes the design principles of Colin Chapman. Light, light, light. And Alec Issigonis of maximising limited space. And they've wrapped it up in a minimal Matt black and glass skin. From a design point of view, it's Bob on.

[i_ateallthepies]

With a front like that it's about as aerodynamic as a building brick.

[keyser_soze]

I suppose the good thing is that the young women won’t be able to type into their phones whilst driving without being seen doing it.

and if they have a short skirt on you will be able to see up it with that clear footwell 

[idler]

I suppose the good thing is that the young women won’t be able to type into their phones whilst driving without being seen doing it.

and if they have a short skirt on you will be able to see up it with that clear footwell 

In that case I'm sticking to trousers.

[godlike1]

Almost all modern cars are disgusting to look at. Why do car designers think they are working on the set of Star Trek?

You can still make something modern but with a traditional style.
I've got one of these and I love it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SUZUKI+JIMNY+GEN4&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiX4Y252LbuAhXBQkEAHUd9B00Q_AUoAXoECBMQAw&biw=960&bih=484#imgrc=EZKN5S5D-3dIQM

i'm looking for a new car in the next few months and did think about this but with 2 small kids and only the odd bit of snow and ice did not think it would be worth the investment. i'd like to get something cool and quirky as part of my mid life crisis years that the kids (7 and 5) will like.

What made you get one and did you have to think about any of my considerations

[drfchound]

I suppose the good thing is that the young women won’t be able to type into their phones whilst driving without being seen doing it.

and if they have a short skirt on you will be able to see up it with that clear footwell 

So lots of potential for causing accidents as well.

[normal rules]

Will it tow my small caravan. No, it won’t even tow a cabbage.

[River Don]

Towing things isn't a strong point for any electric car.

Getting caravans off the road would be considered a bonus by many though.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

[Axholme Lion]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

[Ldr]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

On my 2nd through work now mate, perfectly usable. Only use fuel on long trips, day to day travelling is all on electric. Charging from 3 pin socket

[Axholme Lion]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

On my 2nd through work now mate, perfectly usable. Only use fuel on long trips, day to day travelling is all on electric. Charging from 3 pin socket

Are you regularly charging up from the household socket?
I understood you had to have your home electrics checked out before doing this?

[Ldr]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

On my 2nd through work now mate, perfectly usable. Only use fuel on long trips, day to day travelling is all on electric. Charging from 3 pin socket

Are you regularly charging up from the household socket?
I understood you had to have your home electrics checked out before doing this?

Been doing for 3 years now from the socket in the garage

[albie]

Ldr,

Your leccy utility will provide a subsidised charger if you want.
Some do it free...just ask them.

The charge up will be quicker on a dedicated charger.

AL,

No reason to have domestic electrics checked.
That's the first I have heard of that...loads of people do this, but the downside is slow charge up.

BFYP,

Be aware of the tax position of the option you choose;
https://www.whatcar.com/news/hybrid-car-company-car-tax/n22616

This might change, as moves are afoot to move hybrids out of the way, now fully electric are reaching price parity with extended range. 2023 is the point that electric expects to be cheaper than ICE.

[Axholme Lion]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

On my 2nd through work now mate, perfectly usable. Only use fuel on long trips, day to day travelling is all on electric. Charging from 3 pin socket

Are you regularly charging up from the household socket?
I understood you had to have your home electrics checked out before doing this?

Been doing for 3 years now from the socket in the garage

Lucky for you that you don't get the Isle of Axholme weekly power cut!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Ldr,

Your leccy utility will provide a subsidised charger if you want.
Some do it free...just ask them.

The charge up will be quicker on a dedicated charger.

AL,

No reason to have domestic electrics checked.
That's the first I have heard of that...loads of people do this, but the downside is slow charge up.

BFYP,

Be aware of the tax position of the option you choose;
https://www.whatcar.com/news/hybrid-car-company-car-tax/n22616

This might change, as moves are afoot to move hybrids out of the way, now fully electric are reaching price parity with extended range. 2023 is the point that electric expects to be cheaper than ICE.

Tax is a specialism in our house thankfully. The filly electric option isn't suitable either so little choice though I did consider it.  I probably will go that way for the next one though as it's what I'd prefer.

[the vicar]

Is that car a fully working model or is it just a consent car

[normal rules]

Towing things isn't a strong point for any electric car.

Getting caravans off the road would be considered a bonus by many though.

Caravans are not everyone’s cup of tea, I get that. Mine is tiny (Eriba) seen by many as the Vw camper of caravans. Happily tow it at normal road speeds so don’t hold up traffic. With covid, sales of caravans have gone through the roof. Staycations will be a lot more like the new normal and camping contributes huge sums to the national economy.
Electric cars will dessimate this industry.

[RobTheRover]

I'm likely getting a plug in hybrid soon, anyone else have one?  Considered a full electric car but they just aren't big enough as a family car.

If you're getting a hybrid I would go for a self charging one at the moment, otherwise you may end up with the motoring equivalent of a Betamax vcr.

Company car, so not too long term and the residual value doesn't bother me.  I'm just looking to see if anyone else found them usable etc?

My Merc c350e has just gone back a couple of months ago. I loved it. Really rubbish range on pure electric but enough to pootle about all weekend without using any petrol.

[Donnywolf]

Towing things isn't a strong point for any electric car.

Getting caravans off the road would be considered a bonus by many though.

Caravans are not everyone’s cup of tea, I get that. Mine is tiny (Eriba) seen by many as the Vw camper of caravans. Happily tow it at normal road speeds so don’t hold up traffic. With covid, sales of caravans have gone through the roof. Staycations will be a lot more like the new normal and camping contributes huge sums to the national economy.
Electric cars will dessimate this industry.

Surely "they" will develop ever - smaller - more powerful - beefy batteries which will be able to cope with a Caravan though ?

I mean if Amazon are trumpetting a fleet of all electric vans surely the next logical step will be electric Lorries which will need power and lots of it. Planes are also touted as being all electric so once the batteries get better and better towing a Cara or having an electric Motorhome will be commonplace wont it ?

I am still envisaging although it may be well into the future something I saw in Vietnam (on telly of course) where there are multi thousand electric motor bikes / scooters. They pay a standard rate for "power" for them but instead of charging they call at a Battery exchange place. Pull up - exchange battery - and drive off. Of course the batteries are small and clean and easily handled but last for 100 miles or so

Once the outgoing one is back in the bank" it is charged ready for the next customer coming along although they had maybe 300 in the "bank". I then thought wow how good to have such a system for cars with a series of suck banks all over the country. It needs the techno to catch up but weve come this far - surely we will develop even more till we have tiny batteries in comparison to what they are now but more powerful

[RobTheRover]

Towing things isn't a strong point for any electric car.

Getting caravans off the road would be considered a bonus by many though.

Caravans are not everyone’s cup of tea, I get that. Mine is tiny (Eriba) seen by many as the Vw camper of caravans. Happily tow it at normal road speeds so don’t hold up traffic. With covid, sales of caravans have gone through the roof. Staycations will be a lot more like the new normal and camping contributes huge sums to the national economy.
Electric cars will dessimate this industry.

Surely "they" will develop ever - smaller - more powerful - beefy batteries which will be able to cope with a Caravan though ?

I mean if Amazon are trumpetting a fleet of all electric vans surely the next logical step will be electric Lorries which will need power and lots of it. Planes are also touted as being all electric so once the batteries get better and better towing a Cara or having an electric Motorhome will be commonplace wont it ?

I am still envisaging although it may be well into the future something I saw in Vietnam (on telly of course) where there are multi thousand electric motor bikes / scooters. They pay a standard rate for "power" for them but instead of charging they call at a Battery exchange place. Pull up - exchange battery - and drive off. Of course the batteries are small and clean and easily handled but last for 100 miles or so

Once the outgoing one is back in the bank" it is charged ready for the next customer coming along although they had maybe 300 in the "bank". I then thought wow how good to have such a system for cars with a series of suck banks all over the country. It needs the techno to catch up but weve come this far - surely we will develop even more till we have tiny batteries in comparison to what they are now but more powerful

Already here, mate.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/29/uk-electric-van-maker-arrival-secures-340m-order-from-ups

UPS converted one of their depots in London to all electric a couple of years ago because it was more cost effective when considering congestion charge.

[Donnywolf]

Yes - thats good

My point is though that with all the advances there will soon be something powerful enough to pull a Caravan surely  (if it doesnt exist already).

Vans begat lorries begat Ocean liners etc - and somewhere along the way Normal Rules will get his Caravan tug rather than thinking "electric cars will decimate" the Caravan industry