European super League

[Padge_DRFC]

I wonder if any players have been consulted about this.... For instance - did Harry Kane get asked if he wants to cease playing for his country..?

Marcus Rashford is supposed to be a political voice now. I wonder what he Thinks?

None of the players of these clubs have said a word, I expect they are ordered not to.

He'll need to ask the people that do it and think for him first

[River Don]

I'm just wondering why I give a shit?

I stopped watching the Champions league years ago. This season I have found I can't even be bothered with Match of the Day. I certainly don't want Donny Rovers in the Premier league...

And what of the Premier League? Why would any of the clubs outside this six even bother trying to compete with them, should they remain in it?

I suppose I wouldn't mind so much if they would all just go, set up their superleague but they are intent on ruining the game immediately below it too.

[nortikorner]

If SKY and BT remove them from covering them ,we will carry on with only a loss of some greed players

[turnbull for england]

What will it actually achieve long term?  Most of the world's 'best' players are already at these teams  so quality can't improve, bar the more successful teams attracting players the others can't ( see premier league now )the atmosphere will be none existant with little to no away following and given the obvious high quality wall to wall TV coverage that will go with it who would the home support be ?. They are going to be placing more emphasis on these ads than their own league so  local.derbies etc will suffer and eventually they will find their own level  and  it will just become a Predictable  risk free  show rather than a competition. 10 yrs from now they must just disappear up their own arses

[Glyn_Wigley]

What will it actually achieve long term?  Most of the world's 'best' players are already at these teams  so quality can't improve, bar the more successful teams attracting players the others can't ( see premier league now )the atmosphere will be none existant with little to no away following and given the obvious high quality wall to wall TV coverage that will go with it who would the home support be ?. They are going to be placing more emphasis on these ads than their own league so  local.derbies etc will suffer and eventually they will find their own level  and  it will just become a Predictable  risk free  show rather than a competition. 10 yrs from now they must just disappear up their own arses

How long before it becomes the WWE of football, with fake, manufactured 'drama' purely driven by pulling a TV audience?

[normal rules]

Chelski, manure, shitty, bin dippers, arse and the other London club should be made to remove the word Football from their club names and replace it with Soccer.
Manchester United Soccer Club. Has a certain ring to it don’t you think?

[normal rules]

When English players in these clubs see the light, which I certainly hope they will, I can’t see them sticking around. They will be seen as being complicit with it if they stay. Subject to hate campaigns, lambasted for wanting to be part of something so abhorrent to the history of the national game. They would not struggle to get a job in a non ESL team of course.
The ESL and teams like Manchester United Soccer team would end up being a team of has beens and Chinese or American import players. It could end up being the ruin of them as far as club identity goes. Meanwhile , the remaining PL and EFL prosper.
Be careful what you wish for top six.

[the vicar]

One thing it will do is devaluation of the World Cup, as Europe countries will lose most of there players whereas the American, north and south will win it every year and it will strengthen the oceanic countries and we will be a spent force for ever 

[turnbull for england]

It does conjure up a picture of  the American 70s league - Manchester Cosmos Soccer Club etc

[River Don]

Dortmund announce they stand side by side with Munich in rejected the very idea of a super league.

Once again the Germans show the English up.

[Padge_DRFC]

Dortmund announce they stand side by side with Munich in rejected the very idea of a super league.

Once again the Germans show the English up.

Only because it's a fans decision

[RoversAlias]

The players of these clubs control this, their actions are massive, without players this never gets off the ground, It would be interesting to hear from the PFA about this. The first action from the National Leagues, UEAFA and FIFA should be to suspend all clubs involved and inform all players that they will be banned from the Euros this season for a start

The players? This has nothing to do with them, and everything to do with the greedy businessmen who populate the boardrooms. Three of the six English clubs have American owners who want to emulate the NFL/NBA closed-shop franchise approach. They don't care one jot about fans or whether players want to play for their country.

This is on those faceless men behind the boardroom door, not the players.

I do agree that the lot of them should be kicked out of the Premier League right now though.

[MachoMadness]

All of this assumes the leagues will sack up and penalise the breakaway clubs in any meaningful way. I'm not sure that'll happen, myself.

[the vicar]

I think all the greedy players around the world will want there coin from it then it has something to do with them

[River Don]

Dortmund announce they stand side by side with Munich in rejected the very idea of a super league.

Once again the Germans show the English up.

Only because it's a fans decision

Good.

As far as I'm concerned Germany is the model of club ownership English clubs should follow.

[normal rules]

Dortmund announce they stand side by side with Munich in rejected the very idea of a super league.

Once again the Germans show the English up.

The German model is different o other European clubs meaning that only 49 % of their clubs can be corporate ownership. So the fans own the majority stake.

[sha66y]

Every cloud has a silver lining....not sure why everyone’s going apoplectic over something that’s been creeping in since the formation of the premier league....we are Donny Rovers afterall !

I don’t know who owns all these clubs and I don’t mean the name on the chairman’s door, there are too many factions involved that seem able to destabilise the foundations of our society .....

War is not just guns and bullets..... one for the conspiracy factoids!

[Chris the Rover]

All this crap makes me appreciate even more that we are owned by local people, with a love of the club and town. I just hope that the football authorities take a stand against this, but I’m not holding my breath. The whole thing stinks of money-making greed.

[normal rules]

Surely, no one team, or in this case six, are bigger than the other 90 or so teams.
I hope the FA grow a pair over this, I really do.
If ever there was a chance to make a stand against money and greed killing football, this is it.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I don't think they should penalise the players straightaway. It's not them that's done this, and when they signed their existing contracts it was to play for a Premier League club.

Any player at one of these clubs that signs a new contract from now; or transfers to one of these clubs from today; knowing what has happened, however...

[Glyn_Wigley]

Surely, no one team, or in this case six, are bigger than the other 90 or so teams.
I hope the FA grow a pair over this, I really do.
If ever there was a chance to make a stand against money and greed killing football, this is it.

I think you'll find that the FA will want to make a stand over it because of greed just as much as the six are doing this because of greed.

[Michael Gibson]

This could be stopped quite simply with a massive fans boycott, it seems all the fans are against it so let’s see what happens.... boycott of course the fans if the teams involved.

[since-1969]

This is nothing to do with a Super League. It’s about those 10-15 clubs wanting a larger share of the cake to cover the losses or the owners just withdraw . This League isn’t going to happen because it never was !! Those clubs know that there will be an outcry, THAT is what they want , to start a discussion based on their objections of more money not less . Because fans do matter and turning the game in its head would solve nothing and they understand  that. But football streaming is what they are after with MORE of that revenue going to them , and everything staying as before . Uafa will bow to this because it’s in their interest to let the bigger clubs remain big and slowdown lesser clubs form taking out a smaller  share unless they achieve more .

[BillyStubbsTears]

Surely, no one team, or in this case six, are bigger than the other 90 or so teams.
I hope the FA grow a pair over this, I really do.
If ever there was a chance to make a stand against money and greed killing football, this is it.

Of course they are bigger than the other 86, when losing them would mean a collapse in broadcasting income.

For the record, that doesn't mean I think the rest of the football establishment SHOULD cave in. I just think they WILL cave in, because they are so in hock to the income that those clubs generate.

Football lost its soul years ago on this topic. I said back at the time that the PL was formed that the likes of Sheffield Weds and others enthusiastically backing it showed how lacking in strategic foresight football's rulers were. The amzing thing is that it has taken so long for this inevitable situation to materialise.

The most disgusting hypocrisy I've heard on this issue was Greg Dyke on the radio this morning preaching about how awful this was. That's the same Greg Dyke who was trying to get the top half dozen or so clubs to form their own breakaway competition in the late 80s, because he thought it would be more lucrative for his London Weekend Television company.

Pigs with their snouts in the trough, the lot of them. I truly wish they would f**k off, take their money with them and serve up emotionless pap for the bell ends who don't understand what football means. Even if it means the rest of the professional game collapsing and having to be built up from scratch.

But that won't happen. Because there are too many people in football suckling on the tit of the top clubs.

[normal rules]

My argument about a small number of teams being bigger than the rest was morally based, and perhaps a little single dimensional. Every time we have these sorts of conversations it all boils down to money. And that is why it is rotten, to the core, and as you allude to BST has been for a long time.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fascinating to look at the clubs who were in the very last First Division in 1991/92. Most of them were enthusiastic supporters of the idea of the PL. Think what has happened to some of them. And how short sighted they were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991%E2%80%9392_Football_League_First_Division#League_standings
 

[jmt23]

UK fan power is nothing to these clubs, they are global outfits. Let them go create a league, but do not allow them back.

I think the tv bubble may be about to burst anyway, if you look at things like IFollow. Its more functional than the polished SKY/BT/Amazon....but who wants meaningless faces spouting rubbish, an hour before and after. I just want to watch the game, then get on with my life.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Liverpool fans have acted quickly by putting banners up at Anfield declaring the death of the club.

[normal rules]

Interestingly Liverpool and manure and shitty have not splashed this all over their Facebook pages, unlike chelski Spurs  and Arsenal.

[normal rules]

Liverpool fans have acted quickly by putting banners up at Anfield declaring the death of the club.

Fan groups “spirit of shankly” and “spion kop  1906” are removing their flags and banners from the kop as we speak.