Thats me done

[dickos1]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

You’re the one talking shite my friend

I don’t recall anyone saying the signings of Rowe, close, knoyle, hiwulu, smith, were shite at the time

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

You’re the one talking shite my friend

I don’t recall anyone saying the signings of Rowe, close, knoyle, hiwulu, smith, were shite at the time

Rowe is not bad so fair do's. Knoyle is a defender who can't defend. Hiwula is an attacker who can't score. Close has potential but yet to see it. Smith is just shit full stop. Cukur is shit. Need i go on?

[sedwardsdrfc]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

Thing is Dickos is right. But i think that just lends more weight to the argument that the management has been very poor in utilising the players. 

Also while individually they mostly good they are too similar. Wellens identified on day one what he wanted in a holding midfielder but signed players who are the complete opposite. That's not a lack of funds it's just bad management in using them which has impacted on the makeup of the team. This and poor coaching are making what are good players look terrible.

[dickos1]

Coppinger was an attacker that didn’t score many, was he shite too?
Knoyle, close, smith are all good footballers, that’s pretty clear.
But lacking in confidence, all 3 will come good

[BillyStubbsTears]

Wellens has signed 4 defenders that he has chosen. And as a defensive unit, we are as bad at defending routine balls across the box as anything I've seen in 20 years.

That's got bugger all to do with confidence. Either the players aren't good enough for this level or they are not being coached well enough. One or the other. Or both.

[dickos1]

Our defence has been poor for a long time now, we’ve very rarely kept clean sheets for 18 months.
Our last two managers were centre halves!

For me a major problem is we don’t protect the back four, we’ve nobody shielding them, all our midfielders are good technically and good on the ball but they’re all poor without the ball.

[Colin C No.3]

Let me just get this straight then.

Is it the defenders you are saying who are poor or the midfield in front of them?

[Lesonthewest]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

[ditch_drfc]

To be honest our home form has been decent all season,
11 points from 7 games is good and not relegation form, it’s the away form that’s killing us

Completely deluded mate. Our home form has not been anywhere near decent. Putting aside the massive luck we've had in some of our games, the home table puts us 17th. That's not decent.

Also doesn't account for some of the other shockers we've had at home like the 6-0 loss to Rotherham which has almost been overshadowed by other terrible performances now.

[Lesonthewest]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

You’re the one talking shite my friend

I don’t recall anyone saying the signings of Rowe, close, knoyle, hiwulu, smith, were shite at the time

Come on then, who are his 'good signings'.

[dickos1]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

Dear me!
So what?

[dickos1]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

You’re the one talking shite my friend

I don’t recall anyone saying the signings of Rowe, close, knoyle, hiwulu, smith, were shite at the time

Come on then, who are his 'good signings'.

Read the thread

[dickos1]

To be honest our home form has been decent all season,
11 points from 7 games is good and not relegation form, it’s the away form that’s killing us

Completely deluded mate. Our home form has not been anywhere near decent. Putting aside the massive luck we've had in some of our games, the home table puts us 17th. That's not decent.

Also doesn't account for some of the other shockers we've had at home like the 6-0 loss to Rotherham which has almost been overshadowed by other terrible performances now.

That’s decent and would comfortably keep us up if we had similar away form.
People keep going on about luck going for us but not all the bad luck we’ve had away from home, offsides that weren’t, penalties that weren’t.
Funny how you’ve included the Rotherham game from that Mickey Mouse cup but not the one we won

[eastender]

I think the owners need to inject more money into the club to sign a striker and/or more attacking options.

So that will be in January then or are you thinking of another free agent? Out of interest how much do you think should be invested to procure said striker/and or more attackers?

How about similar investment to local giants Rotherham?

Put a figure on it BB
How much did Rotherham get after relegation last season?
Are they in any debt?
What is their wage bill?

Why should I put a figure on it? What difference or point would that be, seeing as I don't know. It's not my job to know either, it's the club's job.

As for the wage bill, the one I saw a while back put our weekly player's wage bill at around 57K and Rothrhams at around 100K.

Apparently, they are also financially secure.

Are those official figures? - do you have a link?

https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/doncaster-rovers/

https://footballleaguefc.com/rotherham-united-2player-wages/

So Aiden Barlow is on £2,500 a week and the Captain Tom Anderson is on £1,600 a week. 

[mpc123]

Let me just get this straight then.

Is it the defenders you are saying who are poor or the midfield in front of them?

Or the inbetween said a million times. ..  the holding midfielder.

No point pointing it out every post we can't do anything until Jan. Fingers crossed we get it.

[rich1471]

Wellens has signed 4 defenders that he has chosen. And as a defensive unit, we are as bad at defending routine balls across the box as anything I've seen in 20 years.

That's got bugger all to do with confidence. Either the players aren't good enough for this level or they are not being coached well enough. One or the other. Or both.

Billy I think the players are good enough ,the issue looks like they are to open and we look like are not set up correctly , bostock is a good player but everything through him is slow , we lack a killer instinct Infront of goal and the defence don't look organised and that is down to wellens and his management team ,great player poor manager he needs to go

[Padge_DRFC]

Not only was it a horror show on the pitch today i thought the away support was appalling. What an absolute set of obnoxious wan£ers on show. Wasnt even there for the football more than half of them.

What were they there for?

[Campsall rover]

Agree. Piss off Wellens. Absolutely clueless.

Have some dignity and resign tonight. The club are paying you and you don't deserve and are not earning the money!

So who do we get to replace him?  Our home form is reasonable. It is away we wer having problems.
No good calling for the managers head after each defeat.
No one wanted him out last Saturday or on Tuesday night. 

Sound lets stick to how its going then you absolute moron!

Is there any need for that abuse. I just gave my opinion on the situation.
The only moron is you for using that word.  Grow up. Are you not capable of having a sensible debate.
Obviously not.

Abuse! Haha brilliant. I couldnt give a toss pal. You support this sh!t. Good on you. Weve had this out many times before. If you wanna lose you stick to your guns theres a good lad.

If you read my post clever dick I said, who would we replace him with. It was a question. Was that too complicated for you to understand that? The rest of the post was a statement of fact on opinions by others posted on this forum after the Cheltenham and Cambridge matches.

Where have i said in any post that I am happy with our performances. You really need to do your home work before spouting off.
I suggest you go through all the threads over the last week and read all my posts.

I cant be arsed to read your posts "clever dick"

That says it all. 

[Lesonthewest]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

Dear me!
So what?

OK then, so what if he has injuries, is that better? doesn't most clubs. He applied & took the job, & signed several poor players. Dear me.

[Lesonthewest]

Our defence has been poor for a long time now, we’ve very rarely kept clean sheets for 18 months.
Our last two managers were centre halves!

For me a major problem is we don’t protect the back four, we’ve nobody shielding them, all our midfielders are good technically and good on the ball but they’re all poor without the ball.

Did those other managers concede 4s & 6s & not gain a single away point, or even look like getting one. No don't think they did.

[roversdude]

Think as a management team they really need to look at Paul Gerrard role as set piece coach with how many we concede

[dickos1]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

Dear me!
So what?

OK then, so what if he has injuries, is that better? doesn't most clubs. He applied & took the job, & signed several poor players. Dear me.

You’re just waffling nonsense now,
What do other clubs have to do with us? Our squad is threadbare so to take 5 first team players out is obviously going to have an effect.
What him applying has to do with that I’ve no idea

[roversdude]

We’ve not just had injuries at the start of the season, they’ve continued throughout. Yes other teams have them but I’ve never known a season like this for injuries

[i_ateallthepies]

All the cranks will be out tonight on here, not been about since the Ipswich game

Not really, just fans being realistic.

It’s not realistic to sack a manager after 15 games I’m afraid

Of course it is, if you are losing every single game away from home with no sign of it changing, signing players clearly not good enough, then it is I'm afraid.

Perhaps the Board are of the opinion that the problem isn't Wellens.

[i_ateallthepies]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

We all were told this was 'a consolidation season', which, for anyone who can read between the lines means we're reducing the budget.  Wellens decided on his recruitment strategy based upon that fact and built a first eleven he believed was adequate to hold us steady in Lg1 for the season.  This eleven included some existing players... Anderson, Taylor, Okenabierie, Bogle and others and he filled the remaining slots with the best he could with the funds available.

For the whole of his time here he has been without four or more of his best eleven, and eleven that with a following wind are good enough only to keep us in the Division.  And you really think that Wellens should be sacked for the shit show the club is now?  With the exception of forcing out Andy Butler I believe he has done his best with the resources and situation he was presented with.
He must be given the time and resources in the January window to strengthen the squad.  By then it may not be enough to keep us up but to do anything else would be pointless and stupid.

[Janso]

I can take being shite. I can take turning up to an away ground knowing we're probably in for a rogering.

What I can't take is a group of players not even looking as though they actually give a f**k about playing for each other or the club. There just doesn't seem to be the effort, or interest to even pretend to put in effort. Wellens just can't motivate them, and if you can't motivate your staff to try and do their job effectively, what use are you as a manager?



Jordy Hiwula for example yesterday. Walked right in front of the travelling support on his way round to the bench. As far as I saw, he didn't even look up and acknowledge that we were there. They just don't care.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Hiwula is a lazy get though. Probably couldn't be bothered to lift his head up.

[Lesonthewest]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

So what, he took on the job warts & all,  all managers have to deal with injuries.

Dear me!
So what?

OK then, so what if he has injuries, is that better? doesn't most clubs. He applied & took the job, & signed several poor players. Dear me.

You’re just waffling nonsense now,
What do other clubs have to do with us? Our squad is threadbare so to take 5 first team players out is obviously going to have an effect.
What him applying has to do with that I’ve no idea

Absolute rubbish, to make it a bit easier. Because when he took the job he knew full well some of the injuries, the budget he had to work with, & the existing players he had to work with. Regarding other clubs do they not have injuries? You make out there is only us, Cambridge had an injury crisis with several players out but they came here & competed, took a point that could easily have 3, your point is just a pathetic excuse.

[dickos1]

Which injuries did wellens know about? I think you’re wrong on that one.

Of course other sides have injuries nobody has suggested otherwise, but for 15 games now we’ve had 5/6 first team players missing, and our squad can’t cope with that.
Look at the bench

[BillyStubbsTears]

We need to nail this myth that we've had 5-6 first choice players missing all through the season.

We haven't.

First choice XI is probably (with games unavailable through injury/illness in brackets)
Dahlberg (0)
Knoyle (0)
Anderson (2)
Williams (0) (and yeah, I KNOW people will say this should be John, but Wellens doesn't think so)
Rowe (1)
Bostock (3)
Galbraith (0)
Close (2)
Taylor (14)
Okenabirhie (15)
Hiwula (5)

That's a total of 42 unavailable player-matches out of 15 matches. 2.8 per game.

2/3rds of those absences are taken up by players who we knew in August were long term absences, and who we didn't take proper action to replace at the time, before making two late rushed signings with players who frankly aren't up to snuff.