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Molyneux needs to stop thinking it’s all about him, and its a team game, he’s been a massive disappointment for me, looses the ball loads of times during a game
Quote from: Filo on January 29, 2023, 10:29:22 amMolyneux needs to stop thinking it’s all about him, and its a team game, he’s been a massive disappointment for me, looses the ball loads of times during a game Last season for Hartlepool he scored 12 goals in 55 league and cup games. A one off season or we are not playing in positions where he can score. He is the biggest disappointment of this season. His record in the National league was not good either. Let’s hope we can get more out of him playing wide of a front three is not working for him or the team.
To return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's.
To return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's.
Quote from: ForsolongaRover on January 30, 2023, 06:23:13 pmTo return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's. You do seem to bring up your displeasure with schofield on a frequent basis. How the manager speaks to the press is pretty irrelevent for me, look at sod his interviews were terrible and he never spoke in any detail about anything and just gave short cliche answers.What they say behind closed doors will be completely different, Performance wise we’ve had a few good games where we haven’t had the result but we should all remember this also happened under sod and then everything clicked into place
To return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 31, 2023, 05:20:18 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on January 30, 2023, 06:23:13 pmTo return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's. You do seem to bring up your displeasure with schofield on a frequent basis. How the manager speaks to the press is pretty irrelevent for me, look at sod his interviews were terrible and he never spoke in any detail about anything and just gave short cliche answers.What they say behind closed doors will be completely different, Performance wise we’ve had a few good games where we haven’t had the result but we should all remember this also happened under sod and then everything clicked into place For the record, it took well over a year for O'Driscoll to get everything to slot into place. And that was after inheriting an excellent squad (O'Connor, Roberts, Roberts, Green, Price, Coppinger, Heffernan, Lee, Forte, McCammon, Lockwood) and adding to it expensively (Stock, Wellens, Sullivan, Hayter, Mills, Woods)With most of those players available, O'Driscoll won 45 points from 37 games in 2007 before things clicked.That's the scale of the task facing us now. Even if Schofield is a genius, this is a massive, long term job to turn round this club.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 31, 2023, 05:20:18 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on January 30, 2023, 06:23:13 pmTo return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's. You do seem to bring up your displeasure with schofield on a frequent basis. How the manager speaks to the press is pretty irrelevent for me, look at sod his interviews were terrible and he never spoke in any detail about anything and just gave short cliche answers.What they say behind closed doors will be completely different, Performance wise we’ve had a few good games where we haven’t had the result but we should all remember this also happened under sod and then everything clicked into place For the record, it took well over a year for O'Driscoll to get everything to slot into place. And that was after inheriting an excellent squad (O'Connor, Roberts, Roberts, Green, Price, Coppinger, Heffernan, Lee, Forte, McCammon, Lockwood) and adding to it expensively (Stock, Wellens, Sullivan, Hayter, Mills, Woods)With most of those players available, O'Driscoll won 45 points from 37 games in 2007 before things clicked.That's the scale of the task facing us now. Even if Schofield is a genius, this is a massive, long term job to turn round this club.
Quote from: ForsolongaRover on January 30, 2023, 06:23:13 pmTo return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's. You do seem to bring up your displeasure with schofield on a frequent basis. How the manager speaks to the press is pretty irrelevent for me, look at sod his interviews were terrible and he never spoke in any detail about anything and just gave short cliche answers.What they say behind closed doors will be completely different, Performance wise we’ve had a few good games where we haven’t had the result but we should all remember this also happened under sod and then everything clicked into place
To return to the topic of the Article, can anyone seriously believe that someone who talks like Schofield can communicate what he wants to the players effectively. He was asked why the team conceded the 4 goals. His reply was that it was in those "key moments", and "in the manner we conceded those goals". Apart from not really answering the question what are we supposed to deduce from that? The way they played before and after and in between when other mistakes were made either does not seem either to enter his thinking or he is unwilling to disclose what he is advocating practically to counter the problem. It was as though, in summarising how they did, everything apart from those "key moments" were the only stain on an otherwise satisfactory performance. What did he say to the players at half time, he was asked, and he replied that he "wanted a response" from them; he did not say any more than that, so he either was not specific to them or does not want to disclose what he wanted them to do differently (since it didn't work for very long). Either way, that rather fits the way he is - not keen to actually let us in on how he (attempts) to motivate and organise the team. Another possibility is that he is not very good at pinpointing what needs to be done or thirdly not really very good at motivation at all. On this basis where is the evidence for some people to believe he can "turn it around?" On the subject of how the new signings can contribute, he referred to them "impacting the game from the bench". Does he actually say "Go on lad and impact the game!" On the defensive inadequacies all he said was that "We need to work on those inadequacies and reduce those moments". You can picture these words at the beginning of chapters in the Coaching Manual. What is missing is how the coach teaches the players to relate the tactical objectives to how they actually play. You have to convert them to a game of football in which the players on the pitch are organised and pass the ball around, shoot at goal and tackle and mark opponents in attack and defence - with the object (in Schofield-speak) of "impacting the score". You could listen to Schofield's answers and not be sure what sport he was talking about. It seems to me that he is consumed by theory and if this is what he is like on the training ground, I wonder how it "impacts the players? Moore used to mumble and repeat himself, but he did produce some exciting football. Apart from the Carlisle game Schofield's have been worse than McSheffery's.
I think that’s the first and last time I’ll ever hear Dennis Bergkamp described as a “functional mester”!
Quote from: NickDRFC on January 31, 2023, 02:43:54 pmI think that’s the first and last time I’ll ever hear Dennis Bergkamp described as a “functional mester”!you know what I’m saying. He weren’t afraid to leave the elbow in by the way.
It feels like we need a Billy Bremner type figure. Bremner twice inherited a club in crisis with bloody awful squads. Twice he went right back to basics. Mesters, pace, physical presence.
DS needs time, he was/is a very highly rated coach.We are to my eyes playing much better attacking football on the whole, not results wise(yet)but I am far more confident in what DS is showing to what GMc showed, and that it will eventually change to be more consistent and provide more results.He needs his own team, and to find who can in the current team, play his way. We have given most managers this chance, DS deserves this.The interesting part will be who he keeps in the summer, especially in defence.
Quote from: jmt23 on January 31, 2023, 06:41:42 pmDS needs time, he was/is a very highly rated coach.We are to my eyes playing much better attacking football on the whole, not results wise(yet)but I am far more confident in what DS is showing to what GMc showed, and that it will eventually change to be more consistent and provide more results.He needs his own team, and to find who can in the current team, play his way. We have given most managers this chance, DS deserves this.The interesting part will be who he keeps in the summer, especially in defence. What makes him a rated coach ! Has a track record of success to be measured against or is this potential based on what ?