Great Yorkshire Post summary of our plight on and off the Pitch

[Upton Rover]

I hope everyone connected to the club, sits up and takes notice, however tbh I don’t think they give 2 shits about the fans and reporters reviews.
Can’t we do something about it?

[normal rules]

I hope everyone connected to the club, sits up and takes notice, however tbh I don’t think they give 2 shits about the fans and reporters reviews.
Can’t we do something about it?

Football is nothing without fans.
Just saying,

[scawsby steve]

It's a reasonable observation and one that we don't really need reminding of when we're living it week in week out.

Whatever period we choose to compare our fortunes to, there are some things that aren't as bad as some make out but, no matter what we say, the solutions are as elusive as a common opinion or any potential new investors.

The article isn't just reminding us though, Baz. It's going out to Yorkshire Post readers, which I understand has a significant circulation throughout Yorkshire and further afield.

We really are becoming a laughing stock to all and sundry, and if this article doesn't make the board feel ashamed and embarrassed then nothing will.

[mushRTID]

It’s a good artical but for some reason I have always sensed an anti-Rovers tone from this guy over the years. I can’t explain it, it might just be me but I have always had a sense he doesn’t really like us.

[arkseyrover]

Do we still have access through SM to those who run the club? If so can we hear from SM what can be done and what pressure we can put on them?

[tyke1962]

It's a reasonable observation and one that we don't really need reminding of when we're living it week in week out.

Whatever period we choose to compare our fortunes to, there are some things that aren't as bad as some make out but, no matter what we say, the solutions are as elusive as a common opinion or any potential new investors.

The article isn't just reminding us though, Baz. It's going out to Yorkshire Post readers, which I understand has a significant circulation throughout Yorkshire and further afield.

We really are becoming a laughing stock to all and sundry, and if this article doesn't make the board feel ashamed and embarrassed then nothing will.

No you aren't a laughing stock Steve , everyone of the Yorkshire clubs have gone through grim times at one time or another , I can remember the Blades in the 4th division , Leeds in league one and so forth .

Most fans will understand the current situation because we've had it ourselves .

[Fal]

Do we still have access through SM to those who run the club? If so can we hear from SM what can be done and what pressure we can put on them?

At this point I’m not confident whatsoever that anything said to SM is anywhere close to the truth, and more to just appease us sadly.

[normal rules]

Some very unfair comments pointed towards SM . For what it’s worth, the members of the SB, whom SM is no longer a member I hasten to add, give their time freely. You only have to read the minutes of their meetings to see what is discussed when they meet. What is discussed is documented and is there for all to see on the club website.

[sedwardsdrfc]

What he’s saying might sound similar to others on this forum because it’s the truth. Lots of people will look at us and come to the same conclusions.

This is why our failure to act is so frustrating. Mistakes are made, it’s fine, it’s normal. Just move on and learn from it don’t hide behind the mistake hoping it might miraculously turn into a great decision

[arkseyrover]

Normal - who exactly is being unfair to SM? I have simply asked that we activate the connection we have with the hierarchy to try and put to them how serious the situation is and how strong the feeling is about what is happening.

[normal rules]

Normal - who exactly is being unfair to SM? I have simply asked that we activate the connection we have with the hierarchy to try and put to them how serious the situation is and how strong the feeling is about what is happening.

Whilst I’m not on the SB myself, I know someone very well who is. And I can assure you the board are fully aware of the predicament and fan sentiment.
Ask yourself this. If you were a member, or an ex member of drfc SB, and you were good friends with, let’s say, Gavin Baldwin, would you come on a 4th tier footy forum and air your grievances towards the board?
I know I wouldn’t.

[ravenrover]

More like what several fans have already written on this forum. This smells of lazy journalism all lifted from here

The journalist in question was at the Keepmoat on Saturday and is well versed on the position at Donny, so stick your conspiracy theories up your proverbial.  Even when it is to the point with feeling yes it probably does capture alot of what people as saying on here, because that is stark and the reality of the situation. You sit in your cave then or with your head in the sand, looking ridiculous in complete denial of reality. Its not lazy journalism, its idiotic fans in denial that's the real issue. Your outnumbered more and more, more and more alienated in your view. Time to wake up and smell the coffee or become the forum laughing stock.

I was in the East stand on Saturday and i couldn't believe how empty both the south stand and west stand looked, very worrying and if action isan't taken, it will probably be even more desolate next season.

I think that we needed and need an experienced manager who is results focused and got a track record of promotions out of this division (e.g. a Darren Ferguson, a Steve Evans) and the fact that we haven't, and the board have appointed the opposite again tells its own story of the board's plans and ambition.
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Where did I say it wasn't correct,  where is my denial that the situation is shocking?
I agree with the things he talks  the article but as I said all been previously said on here
Try using your eyes and thinking with your brain not your fingers and  since you mention it my cave is very comfortable thanks

You tried to dismiss it as lazy journalism which it quite frankly isan't so that is trying to dismiss it, now you appear to be back tracking, as i say, you are becoming more and more alienated in your views and defence of the indefensible.

You have a very strange imagination, my comment was made at my perception after reading the article that it was lifted/based on comnents made on this Forum, nothing you have said makes me change my opinion. I'm sorry it doesn't match with your opinion. I still fail to see how you interpret my opinion as a defence of the indefensible it was purely regarding the origin of the detail of the article.

[Avsuptem]

Ranting on here is one thing, but when it’s reported further afield then someone somewhere has to take note.
This should hurt those pulling the strings the most.
And I fully expect this to be referenced in upcoming interviews.

I know one thing, being a mere supporter, if it was my club & I read reports like the Yorkshire Post one & took notice of our excellent fanbase, ( that they have helped create), I would be on it like a ton of bricks.

Well said. But the reality is these owners don't give a stuff.

[ctay]

I am not sure the owners will read or be bothered about the article.

[Campsall rover]

Does anyone in the hierarchy at DRFC read the posts on this forum

This forum is not the Netto brigade.
The vast majority are long term genuine die hard supporters.

If these posts are never seen by the Board / CEO then they should have this forum put firmly in front them to read.

If they are satisfied with the status quo & are not going to take the action required then mark my word we are on the slippery slope back to non league football where we may never recover from.

Action required

1) Sack DS immediately.

2) Head hunt a proven League 2 & League 1 manager.
Someone experienced with a CV of success, preferably a promotion on that CV.
To get that man might mean offering a higher salary / Bonus incentive
Give the manager the budget he needs to give him the best chance of promotion out of this league and a budget that makes us very competitive in the league above.
Give him the tools available. That’s allow him to bring in an assistant manager / coach.

3) implement a development team U21’s or U23’s to play regular competitive matches.

Yes this all costs money. So if that means investing more then do it.
What’s the point of being custodians of a football club, make it self sustainable and then run the football playing operation into the ground by appointing rookie Head Coach’s with no experience. Having a budget that’s not even play off level in League 2

If the plan is to sell the club on at some point,  how does it become more attractive to a potential buyer if the Club is playing non league football as against playing League 1 football.

The only way to long term success is invest in a plan as above which gives the best possible opportunity to achieve that success.

Are this board going to do that or have they lost all interest in seeing DRFC achieving its potential?

[normal rules]

I am not sure the owners will read or be bothered about the article.

Think again.
They will have read it.
It will be of concern to them.

[i_ateallthepies]

I very much hope Copps is and has been for a while headhunting a Replacement manager/Head Coach.  If he isn't God help us.

[Chris Black come back]

Does anyone in the hierarchy at DRFC read the posts on this forum

This forum is not the Netto brigade.
The vast majority are long term genuine die hard supporters.

If these posts are never seen by the Board / CEO then they should have this forum put firmly in front them to read.

If they are satisfied with the status quo & are not going to take the action required then mark my word we are on the slippery slope back to non league football where we may never recover from.

Action required

1) Sack DS immediately.

2) Head hunt a proven League 2 & League 1 manager.
Someone experienced with a CV of success, preferably a promotion on that CV.
To get that man might mean offering a higher salary / Bonus incentive
Give the manager the budget he needs to give him the best chance of promotion out of this league and a budget that makes us very competitive in the league above.
Give him the tools available. That’s allow him to bring in an assistant manager / coach.

3) implement a development team U21’s or U23’s to play regular competitive matches.

Yes this all costs money. So if that means investing more then do it.
What’s the point of being custodians of a football club, make it self sustainable and then run the football playing operation into the ground by appointing rookie Head Coach’s with no experience. Having a budget that’s not even play off level in League 2

If the plan is to sell the club on at some point,  how does it become more attractive to a potential buyer if the Club is playing non league football as against playing League 1 football.

The only way to long term success is invest in a plan as above which gives the best possible opportunity to achieve that success.

Are this board going to do that or have they lost all interest in seeing DRFC achieving its potential?

The point that was being made last week is that we are not self-sustainable, we are sustainable. The two are different.

[ctay]

I am not sure the owners will read or be bothered about the article.

Think again.

I hope your right but the feel from the recent meet the owners and website statements suggest that they think they are doing a great job and they trust the whole process and everyone involved. Head in the sand... is the way I see it.
They will have read it.
It will be of concern to them.

[Usher down the wing.]

Normal - who exactly is being unfair to SM? I have simply asked that we activate the connection we have with the hierarchy to try and put to them how serious the situation is and how strong the feeling is about what is happening.

Whilst I’m not on the SB myself, I know someone very well who is. And I can assure you the board are fully aware of the predicament and fan sentiment.
Ask yourself this. If you were a member, or an ex member of drfc SB, and you were good friends with, let’s say, Gavin Baldwin, would you come on a 4th tier footy forum and air your grievances towards the board?
I know I wouldn’t.

THIS in spades.

[donnyguy]

Exclusive interview tomorrow with Coppinger

#DRFC fans see Wednesday's @YPSport for an exclusive interview with @Coppinger26 about the fans' frustrations and what he is trying to do about them as head of football operations

[Cramby10]

Can’t wait for these pearls of wisdom!! Judging by the last one it isn’t going to be great or what we want to hear. I sense propaganda. “Trust in the process”.

[ncRover]

If he goes on the defensive, that would be foolish to do just before we play and likely fail to beat one of the division's worst sides in Crewe.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/doncaster-rovers-exclusive-part-two-james-coppinger-is-swimming-against-the-tide-most-days-but-weve-started-the-ball-rolling-4083372

Not sure the owners will like it.  Feels like a bit of a grumble on budget and investment to me.

[mushRTID]

Interesting that we are 12th and that reflects the budget we have

Is a mid table L2 budget really good enough?
What’s that going to be next year.

Desperate for some new direction and ambition.

And why was our deluded chairman telling us we would bounce back decisively on a mid table budget.

[dickos1]

I don’t think he’d speak of greater investment and bigger budgets unless that had already been agreed for next season

Let’s hope that’s the case

[mushRTID]

I don’t think he’d speak of greater investment and bigger budgets unless that had already been agreed for next season

Let’s hope that’s the case

Let’s hope so. I think SM also hinted something was in place for next season but i can’t remember which thread it was in.

Whatever it is let’s hope it’s significant but I worry our boards view on significant doesn’t match what is actually needed, especially when the league will be stronger next year.

[mushRTID]

Also I see how Copps has again mentioned the guy at the meet the owners who was honest enough to say it’s a challenge getting his young son to games …Copps again saying you should support your team win or lose.

He’s completely missing the point with that!!

These kids are the clubs future, mine is 5 and I have got him a ST for next year. If he says he doesn’t want to come he won’t be coming, you can’t force them. I don’t get his attitude on that one it should be a warning sign.

[Alan Southstand]

The problem is the base we are now working from. The slide has been on-going for far too long with little tweaks along the way that havn’t addressed the need to get in some real quality into the first team. Then there’s the manager!

[Cramby10]

“Success is having a clear plan and sticking to it”. Absolute b*llocks. That’s the quickest way to failure. Success is having a plan but also awareness and adaptability to get there in the long run. Sticking to it rigidly regardless is madness and the fastest way to a P45. As others have said, this process is like a cult that they’re trying to brainwash everyone with and it’s this hill they’re willing to die on. Crazy!!
It really is draining for all concerned now.