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Sprotyrover

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #180 on June 01, 2024, 11:13:00 pm by Sprotyrover »
Architecture.

The socialists believed in an unornamented efficient building process that would bring affordable housing to the masses.

Capitalism saw a cheap way of building that was more efficient.

Either way we tend to end up with distopian inhuman cheap living spaces.

Now there's a good point, RD. What's Starmer going to do about housing when he gets in?

God knows because as Farage pointed out, we are building a new house every two minutes and that isn't keeping up.

We can't increase the rate rapidly and already we are building on inappropriate places, flood plains and so on.

Last winter we saw flooding in new estates in Retford and Catcliffe. It's mad.
They are trying to build 3,000 plus houses on the flood plane at Hatfield, it’s been knee deep in water for the past 6 months.latest ruse is to put 2 metres of pit shale on it, that won’t work.
They’re also trying to put 450 house on the old Pit tip at Edlo, kids who grew up in Edlo will confirm it’s a massive slurry Pond and it moves.



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Filo

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #181 on June 02, 2024, 03:04:40 am by Filo »
Architecture.

The socialists believed in an unornamented efficient building process that would bring affordable housing to the masses.

Capitalism saw a cheap way of building that was more efficient.

Either way we tend to end up with distopian inhuman cheap living spaces.

Now there's a good point, RD. What's Starmer going to do about housing when he gets in?

God knows because as Farage pointed out, we are building a new house every two minutes and that isn't keeping up.

We can't increase the rate rapidly and already we are building on inappropriate places, flood plains and so on.

Last winter we saw flooding in new estates in Retford and Catcliffe. It's mad.
They are trying to build 3,000 plus houses on the flood plane at Hatfield, it’s been knee deep in water for the past 6 months.latest ruse is to put 2 metres of pit shale on it, that won’t work.
They’re also trying to put 450 house on the old Pit tip at Edlo, kids who grew up in Edlo will confirm it’s a massive slurry Pond and it moves.

That was always the plan at Hatfield, to bring it up to road level, why won’t it work?

IDM

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #182 on June 02, 2024, 12:43:44 pm by IDM »
What the f**k has that got to do with Trump.??

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #183 on June 02, 2024, 02:13:55 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
What the f**k has that got to do with Trump.??

He'll be on the chain gang. :lol:

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #184 on June 02, 2024, 02:37:15 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
I'm not sure it's even as based as that.

It's just a way of asserting patriarchal authority.

Islam does it.
Catholicism does it.
Fundamentalist Protestantism does it.

It's about control and authority.

You missed out atheism on that list, BST.

Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jong Un.

How do you make out that atheism is another way of asserting patriarchal authority?

I’m an atheist & having worked on the front line of the NHS would argue all day long that women should have parity with men on every front.

My wife is an atheist too, as I’m sure are many other women.

Look at our world & tell me there is a superior authority ‘looking down on us’ that is ‘there’ for our well-being.

I'm not going to get into a debate with you or anyone else about faith. As I've said on here many times, it's a personal and private thing, and there's no scientific proof either way. You're right that some women are atheists, although in my lifetime I've found women in general to be more spiritual than men.

On the subject of women, I've been an advocate of them having the same parity with men on earnings for a long time. As soon as women footballers start filling stadiums, which will soon begin to happen, they should get the same pay as the men.




There is growing evidence that an Omniptesent creator doesn't exist. The theists are ever being squeezed into a corner. Since they are the ones making bold claims, it's really up to them to prove it but all they have is blind faith. Just believe it without question.

Seen objectively, Christianity is an obscure middle eastern cult adopted by the Roman empire (Constantine proclaimed in York) as a more efficient form of social control
Actually, quite the opposite. Basically old school "science" fails, big time, on the concept of consciousness. Consciousness is after all the one thing we can be certain of. Consciousness of humans we know, of animals probably, of plants perhaps, of single cells, of atoms, of quarks, of photons... all progressively part of science these days. And that then takes us to the collective consciousness, God perhaps. Don't be a dinosaur. We can debate this in another thread if you like.

IDM

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #185 on June 02, 2024, 02:44:08 pm by IDM »
Talking of “god”, Trump seems to believe he has a divine right to be president!!

Sprotyrover

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #186 on June 02, 2024, 03:54:52 pm by Sprotyrover »
Architecture.

The socialists believed in an unornamented efficient building process that would bring affordable housing to the masses.

Capitalism saw a cheap way of building that was more efficient.

Either way we tend to end up with distopian inhuman cheap living spaces.

Now there's a good point, RD. What's Starmer going to do about housing when he gets in?

God knows because as Farage pointed out, we are building a new house every two minutes and that isn't keeping up.

We can't increase the rate rapidly and already we are building on inappropriate places, flood plains and so on.

Last winter we saw flooding in new estates in Retford and Catcliffe. It's mad.
They are trying to build 3,000 plus houses on the flood plane at Hatfield, it’s been knee deep in water for the past 6 months.latest ruse is to put 2 metres of pit shale on it, that won’t work.
They’re also trying to put 450 house on the old Pit tip at Edlo, kids who grew up in Edlo will confirm it’s a massive slurry Pond and it moves.

That was always the plan at Hatfield, to bring it up to road level, why won’t it work?
You purport to be from a Coalmining community!
Would you live in a house built on 6 feet of Pit Slurry?

scawsby steve

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #187 on June 02, 2024, 05:46:56 pm by scawsby steve »
I'm not sure it's even as based as that.

It's just a way of asserting patriarchal authority.

Islam does it.
Catholicism does it.
Fundamentalist Protestantism does it.

It's about control and authority.

You missed out atheism on that list, BST.

Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jong Un.

How do you make out that atheism is another way of asserting patriarchal authority?

I’m an atheist & having worked on the front line of the NHS would argue all day long that women should have parity with men on every front.

My wife is an atheist too, as I’m sure are many other women.

Look at our world & tell me there is a superior authority ‘looking down on us’ that is ‘there’ for our well-being.

I'm not going to get into a debate with you or anyone else about faith. As I've said on here many times, it's a personal and private thing, and there's no scientific proof either way. You're right that some women are atheists, although in my lifetime I've found women in general to be more spiritual than men.

On the subject of women, I've been an advocate of them having the same parity with men on earnings for a long time. As soon as women footballers start filling stadiums, which will soon begin to happen, they should get the same pay as the men.




There is growing evidence that an Omniptesent creator doesn't exist. The theists are ever being squeezed into a corner. Since they are the ones making bold claims, it's really up to them to prove it but all they have is blind faith. Just believe it without question.

Seen objectively, Christianity is an obscure middle eastern cult adopted by the Roman empire (Constantine proclaimed in York) as a more efficient form of social control

Growing evidence? Let's hear it then; because if you can do that, you're cleverer than Einstein, who looked for it all his life, and gave in to the fact that there isn't any.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #188 on June 06, 2024, 09:58:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #189 on June 06, 2024, 11:52:57 pm by Glyn_Wigley »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Trump again
« Reply #190 on June 07, 2024, 12:05:53 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Yeah. Not like them to deceive their viewers is it?

 

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