Oh Dear....

[danumdon]

Saying your going to be sensible on the economics sounds great, but this fella has form on saying things and then deciding its not a runner. Does this not demonstrate an attitude that follows rather than leads and looks to focus groups to form policy which in effect just happens to be the current flavour of the day.

Until its not and we see more flipping and flopping.

Surely you could say the same about almost all party leaders? I'm not saying that its right, but I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find instances where virtually every party leader for the past 40 years has done this.

Your dead right and i agree.

The only difference being is this guy is going to be the next PM, and therein lies the problem.

We move from supposedly right to left but still have the same issues to look forward to. If Reeves continues committing to not change anything just where are these increased public service improvements going to materialise from?

Sounds to me like nothing much will be changing, unless they are hoping to dupe the nation into voting for something completely different once safely in place.

[SydneyRover]

Saying your going to be sensible on the economics sounds great, but this fella has form on saying things and then deciding its not a runner. Does this not demonstrate an attitude that follows rather than leads and looks to focus groups to form policy which in effect just happens to be the current flavour of the day.

Until its not and we see more flipping and flopping.

Surely you could say the same about almost all party leaders? I'm not saying that its right, but I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find instances where virtually every party leader for the past 40 years has done this.

Your dead right and i agree.

The only difference being is this guy is going to be the next PM, and therein lies the problem.

We move from supposedly right to left but still have the same issues to look forward to. If Reeves continues committing to not change anything just where are these increased public service improvements going to materialise from?

Sounds to me like nothing much will be changing, unless they are hoping to dupe the nation into voting for something completely different once safely in place.

It would be informative if you explain what you mean by 'left' dd, there is a noisy contingent on here saying they are all the same and others saying labour is too far to the right.

[Bentley Bullet]

This Labour Party is a party of protest, not a party of government.

It can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

The Tories have needed no help in bringing themselves down BB.

Of course, I should have mentioned many of its supporters being the same.....

Haha, there you go folks, I rest my case!

[SydneyRover]

This Labour Party is a party of protest, not a party of government.

It can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

THe only reason I'm voting labour is because of you slag them off bb, hehe

[danumdon]

Saying your going to be sensible on the economics sounds great, but this fella has form on saying things and then deciding its not a runner. Does this not demonstrate an attitude that follows rather than leads and looks to focus groups to form policy which in effect just happens to be the current flavour of the day.

Until its not and we see more flipping and flopping.

Surely you could say the same about almost all party leaders? I'm not saying that its right, but I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find instances where virtually every party leader for the past 40 years has done this.

Your dead right and i agree.

The only difference being is this guy is going to be the next PM, and therein lies the problem.

We move from supposedly right to left but still have the same issues to look forward to. If Reeves continues committing to not change anything just where are these increased public service improvements going to materialise from?

Sounds to me like nothing much will be changing, unless they are hoping to dupe the nation into voting for something completely different once safely in place.

It would be informative if you explain what you mean by 'left' dd, there is a noisy contingent on here saying they are all the same and others saying labour is too far to the right.

[ravenrover]

You can't blame the Tories for 14 years of failure, everything in those 14 years was down to the Pandemic and war on Ukraine wasn't it?

[Sprotyrover]

You can't blame the Tories for 14 years of failure, everything in those 14 years was down to the Pandemic and war on Ukraine wasn't it?

And the complete mess left by the last Labour government!

[jmt23]

I’m interested BB, you can see the Tories have totally ruined the country can’t you? I’ve certainly never known a time where we are in such a mess, mainly through utter incompetence.
Not a post having a sly dig, just genuinely interesting.

[Bentley Bullet]

You can't blame the Tories for 14 years of failure, everything in those 14 years was down to the Pandemic and war on Ukraine wasn't it?

This Labour Party is a party of protest, not a party of government.

It can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

[SydneyRover]

I’m interested BB, you can see the Tories have totally ruined the country can’t you? I’ve certainly never known a time where we are in such a mess, mainly through utter incompetence.
Not a post having a sly dig, just genuinely interesting.

bump

[DonnyOsmond]

You can't blame the Tories for 14 years of failure, everything in those 14 years was down to the Pandemic and war on Ukraine wasn't it?

And the complete mess left by the last Labour government!

Yeah and that world wide financial crisis that they caused. FFS.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Saying your going to be sensible on the economics sounds great, but this fella has form on saying things and then deciding its not a runner. Does this not demonstrate an attitude that follows rather than leads and looks to focus groups to form policy which in effect just happens to be the current flavour of the day.

Until its not and we see more flipping and flopping.

Surely you could say the same about almost all party leaders? I'm not saying that its right, but I'm sure you wouldn't have to look far to find instances where virtually every party leader for the past 40 years has done this.

Your dead right and i agree.

The only difference being is this guy is going to be the next PM, and therein lies the problem.

We move from supposedly right to left but still have the same issues to look forward to. If Reeves continues committing to not change anything just where are these increased public service improvements going to materialise from?

Sounds to me like nothing much will be changing, unless they are hoping to dupe the nation into voting for something completely different once safely in place.

How many times does it need pointing out that she's proposing a totally different treatment of capital investment.

The throttling of capital investment by this lot is one of THE most egregious mistakes of the past 14 years.

[Sprotyrover]

You can't blame the Tories for 14 years of failure, everything in those 14 years was down to the Pandemic and war on Ukraine wasn't it?

And the complete mess left by the last Labour government!

Yeah and that world wide financial crisis that they caused. FFS.

You got it in one Donny!

[selby]

  In that financial crisis the shadow chancellor was a high flyer in the bank of England and signed off and must have known about lots of dodgy scams by various banks that caused that particular crisis, something not talked about on here I notice.
  And the politics of envy is already raising its head with some Labour front benchers who are already vocal and pushing to increase inheritance tax.
  As for the £2k tax prediction the civil service have not actually disputed the figure just the fact that they should not be associated with publishing the figure.
   It will be more than that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mike Graham filling your head with dogshite again Selby?

She left the BoE 2 years before the GFC.

Have another go. I'm sure you will.

[selby]

  Thanks Billy she worked there until 2006 when things were on dodgy ground and was head hunted by HBOS one of the worst banks caught out in the scams and one of the highest fined banks when the s**t hit the fan.
  The job she had was signing off deals and was interviewed by Goldman Sachs but got cold feet, she was part of, and new what was going on, or are you telling me she is not as bright as she is made out to be.

[BillyStubbsTears]

She worked for the retail arm of HBOS.

Go on. Next.

[SydneyRover]

  Thanks Billy she worked there until 2006 when things were on dodgy ground and was head hunted by HBOS one of the worst banks caught out in the scams and one of the highest fined banks when the s**t hit the fan.
  The job she had was signing off deals and was interviewed by Goldman Sachs but got cold feet, she was part of, and new what was going on, or are you telling me she is not as bright as she is made out to be.

Stop worrying selby labour won't be after your pittance, however they may go after those that can afford a gardener and a butler.

[selby]

  Your a funny lad Billy you generally hate millionaires associated with the Tories but will die for millionaire socialists. Have a good day, as a small business man enjoy it while you can.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I think that translates as "Yeah, I'm being really stupid here aren't I?" Eh Selby?

[selby]

  Don't put yourself down Billy, your always entertaining and now we have woken your head oncho up  from the penal colony ( they don't really deserve our cast offs really poor buggers) but hey ho we all have a cross to carry.
  By the way did you really pick him as a disciple or did he just latch on to you.

[SydneyRover]

  Don't put yourself down Billy, your always entertaining and now we have woken your head oncho up  from the penal colony ( they don't really deserve our cast offs really poor buggers) but hey ho we all have a cross to carry.
  By the way did you really pick him as a disciple or did he just latch on to you.

I knew you'd bite with that one selby, sleep well

[selby]

  I always knew you had a soft spot for me Syd, I will thanks