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Viking Chat / Re: Tom Nixon
« Last post by Chris Black come back on Today at 11:44:43 pm »
Billy available on a free though!
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Off Topic / Re: Labour U Turns Part 164
« Last post by albie on Today at 11:44:01 pm »
BST,

No, wrong again on all counts.

1)
I posted what Sharon Graham herself said on X.
The same thing was posted on the Unite website;
https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2024/may/labour-s-draft-new-deal-for-workers-now-unrecognisable

2)
Sharon then rewound, 2 days later, after being lobbied by Keith and Co, which she is entitled to do if she has now got cast iron commitments from Labour.
Others, including Matt Wrack from the FBU, remain critical.

The FT has been the main commentary on this, but is behind a paywall.
https://archive.ph/UgZlt
and
https://archive.ph/Jo485

This has been going on for months;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/18/unite-union-sharon-graham-labour-party-workers-rights-angela-rayner

3)
No, it was not ignored.
Noboby "launched an attack", just simply pointed out that there is no proof of the commitment going forwards.

We have the track record of Keith to refer to, from the horses mouth;
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1623740061316534273/pu/vid/1280x718/A3dhYtG1bjv1uqJL.mp4?tag=12

You would have to be very naive to take him seriously, and I hope you are not that!
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Viking Chat / Re: General Topic....what's going on at
« Last post by Buzzberry on Today at 11:40:31 pm »
Retford united as well now moved league but appealing it
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Off Topic / Re: Ukraine
« Last post by Bristol Red Rover on Today at 11:37:03 pm »
From a few days ago, Secretary of State Blinken rocks out with an out of tune guitar and a song slagging of US society, but hey, it has the chorus of "Rocking in a Free World".

It's on par with Boris and playing a guitar with his hand the wrong side of the capo and singing Free Palestine to the Knesset. What is it with the intelligence of many politicians? You'd almost think they were mindless puppets.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/blinken-ukraine-russia-rockin-in-the-free-world-neil-young-rcna152335
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Off Topic / Re: Labour U Turns Part 164
« Last post by BillyStubbsTears on Today at 11:02:18 pm »
Albie.

Obviously I'm not being clear enough so I'll spell it out.

1) You posted that Graham was going to do something you approved of.

2) Sheffield then did something you didn't approve of

3) You first ignored that, then when it was brought to your attention, you posted something that implied Graham wasn't trustworthy.

Now, I'm not aware of you ever doing a job on Graham before this. But if you've had longstanding concerns about Graham, why did you only post them after she agreed with Starmer?

This is depressingly familiar stuff from the far left. The moment other people on the left do something you disagree with, you (collectively, not - just - you personally )discount the possibility that they might be acting in good faith and instead launch an attack on them. It's been that way for decades. It's the approach of the zealots who are certain that they hold The Truth and anyone who doesn't follow them must be among the unbelievers.
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Viking Chat / Re: General Topic....what's going on at
« Last post by roversdude on Today at 10:43:56 pm »
Re Oxford City in national league North, seems to me a bit unfair on them with all the travelling they are going to have to do this next season. They are a little bit south of North



Proper northern compared to Bishop Stortford
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Off Topic / Re: Labour U Turns Part 164
« Last post by albie on Today at 10:07:22 pm »
BST,

1)
You can check out the history of the Unite dispute from other sources if you wish.
The link I posted was the best short summary, which links through to earlier posts on the issue.
By all means do your own research!

I was NOT highlighting anything other than what Graham herself posted on X (twitter).
She posted her opinion, then rowed back after a meeting and assurances from Keith.

As we know, pledges from Keith are entirely worthless.
Shaz is just having a Neville Chamberlain moment!
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Off Topic / Re: When a Government...
« Last post by BillyStubbsTears on Today at 09:54:31 pm »
It's like a scorched earth policy.

https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1791728587508215860

There is no successful part of Britain that these Kitsons won't smash if it helps them retain a few racist voters who might otherwise go to Farage.
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Off Topic / Re: Labour U Turns Part 164
« Last post by BillyStubbsTears on Today at 09:52:40 pm »
Albie.

1) I've nothing to offer on that article because I have not and will not read it. Because Skwawkbox has a long record of writing entirely untrustworthy stuff with a very strong ideological bent, based on the belief that anyone to the right of their far left position is an enemy. In this case, you, personally were highlighting that Graham was going to have a fight with Starmer over workers' benefits. Then when she didn't, you entirely dismiss the possibility that there might have been a genuine agreement, and instead quote Skwawkbox telling us she's a Red Tory. As with BRR over Putin, it's literally impossible to argue with that sort of stance.

2) There's no point me talking about capital investment again because I've done so dozens of times and you simply ignore it.
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Off Topic / Re: Labour U Turns Part 164
« Last post by scawsby steve on Today at 09:49:48 pm »
So what is your answer to the questions put?

1) Do you disagree with the content of the article on Unite, and please explain what is incorrect (with your evidence).
2) We await your explanation of the main difference  between the economic strategy of Reeves, and the austerity of Osbourne.

Trustworthy Keith chats to Beth Rigby on Sky;
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1791140438964944896/vid/avc1/720x1280/XcUdzh9zFxce609M.mp4?tag=14

BTW, you block cookies under the settings option in your browser.

Albie, I watched that on Sky News. Beth Rigby is THE best political interviewer on TV. She lets no-one off the hook, of any political persuasion.

The way she took Keith apart was cringeworthy to watch.
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