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Since leaving Grimsby in 2017 his appearances are:Wigan 14Cardiff 21Peterborough 9Birmingham 15Portsmouth 12Den Haag 5Charlton 17That to me suggests one of two things, either theres a problem with his attitude or application, or his level is National League, League 2
And the general consensus was that Mourinho was totally out of order. We obviously have different approaches to management. The line I think the overwhelming majority of managers would have taken was to simply say that Bogle was not part of his plans and was available for transfer but that moves had fallen through. Questioning motives publicly is simply unprofessional.
He had this record PRIOR to him signing. The whole discussion here is not about Omar Bogles past (or even to some degree current performance levels) it's about the management of a situation.I would love to see Wellens succeed at DRFC however we keep hearing of the Rovers recruitment/selection policies being the same over the past few years. And how players have to fit into the DNA of the club. If we are talking about commitment to training the community and the fan base then Andy Butler would still be a Rover. I suspect (with no evidence) he too was an outcast from the squad.With Williams and Bogle - Wellens made it clear he wanted them gone (perhaps) his mouthing off in the media about the two players is what has caused other clubs to not make offers substantial enough for either to leave. The circumstances lead to Wellens desperately going from one club to another looking for a forward. The Club (frustratingly) couldn't get choices A or B over the line - instead we have option C (who isn't really a centre forward) but more of a winger. We have 2 decent centre forwards at the club in Fej (injured) and Bogle (outcast) I belive the last centre forward to score a league goal for us was Richards? So it seems strange to have not tried to build the confidence or relationship with Omar from Wellens point of view. As a manager/coach you are required to manage the players and or coach them to your style or philosophy of play. This is where I think Wellens has failed so far. Now are Williams and or Bogle throughly unprofessional? Maybe. If so I think we'd have heard by now. But something is wrong at the club or within the squad. I can't remember when a player(s) were publicly frozen out from our teams.
I wouldn't mind seeing the word Bogle frozen out of this forum, he has made it pretty clear he has no interest in being a Rovers player, so why should there be any interest in him?
No player has been publicly frozen out of our team / training sessions. You’re relying on the word of Bogle (and his photo with Williams) for that. Now I’m not saying they haven’t been frozen out, but those lambasting Wellens for his public conduct on this would be well served to think about where they got this information from.
Quote from: Jonathan on September 15, 2021, 12:59:02 pmNo player has been publicly frozen out of our team / training sessions. You’re relying on the word of Bogle (and his photo with Williams) for that. Now I’m not saying they haven’t been frozen out, but those lambasting Wellens for his public conduct on this would be well served to think about where they got this information from. Of COURSE Bogle has been frozen out of the team. Read Wellens's interview. And then remember that 4 days later, with Bogle apparently fit, Wellens started the Rotherham match with Matt Smith at centre forward.
I'm doing my level best to keep this polite and impersonal Jonathan, but it's not easy. You're a clever lad and usually a very good poster but I assume you're having a rough couple of days because your being rather childish here.I haven't eulogised about his performance at Accrington. Grow up. I have simply said it was as competent a performance as any other player that night. Which makes it odd that (if we are simply talking football ability) he was left out of the 18 at Rotherham, while we started without a recognised striker. What had happened between the Accrington and Rotherham matches of course was that Bogle had turned down a transfer and Wellens had very publicly expressed his displeasure at that. That was my point about him being frozen out. You can by all means say he deserves it and it is a sensible decision, but to deny it has happened is simply obtuse.
I wonder how many of Wellens' detractors who were against his appointment in the first place are using this thread to claim righteousness in their opposition to his appointment? Just wondering if the epidemic of political bad losers on the off-topic page has spread to the football section.
Could it be that Bogle is Diane Abbot’s love child?